So it's been a whole year and 15k miles that I've owned these Cooper ST Maxx in 285/75R16. They are basically 33 inch tires. Super quick conclusion about them. Thanks for watching.
@@charleybrack9447 totally understand. St Maxx was just like that issue you have. I reviewed the general atx and definitely quieter. I'm testing out a Toyo RT now which is a close cousin to Nitto
I've had KO2 before and was looking for something different. I got these because of your great review. I got these on Friday. Went to Lytle Creek yesterday and they were great. Thanks for the videos.
I've got about 4k on my ST Maxxes now - rotated at 3k prior to my second track day. I really like them over the KO2s that came stock, way more grip in all conditions. They were the only tire that was in the same weight range as the K02s while being more aggressive, and I heard they were quiet. They are quiet for how aggressive they are, but I must say they are just loud enough to be annoying to me on rough country roads above 55mph. Measured about 70-72db in the cab. They are a lot tougher than the KO2s, but my baja shenanigans on rocky terrain is eating up them too. The siping in the center tread is much bigger now (being chunked out) and the edges of the tires are scuffed/eradicated by now, which is a bit disappointing with only about 100 offroad miles on them. But I shredded the K02s in 38 miles of that kind of driving, so can't really blame them too much.
@@russellmozingo2822 I never ran MTs just the AT hybrids. KM3 I heard are quiet for what they are as well as the Grabber MTs. At SEMA I saw so many new tire brands that I never heard of. It's crazy nowadays.
good looking set up. Good to see you using 16" wheels. Cant stand seeing lifted "offroad" trucks with giant wheels with low pro tires. Looks ridiculous. Im more of a full size HD truck guy (for work purposes) but those Tacomas are nice trucks. If I didnt need a HD with long bed, Id get one
I run STT Pros, my girlfriend runs AT 4S, and her son has ST Max and we all have the same experience with the more aggressive Cooper tires. The noise increases significantly as they wear. Otherwise they all perform great.
agreed. 10k miles i think was a little too premature for that much noise. i did rotate front to back but i saw that General tires for theirs recommends criss cross.
Good review. A lot of the stuff I’ve read online was that these are fairly quiet in comparison to other All terrains. I ran duratracs and was happy with them other than weak to sharp stuff. Those were pretty loud too.
had em on my 13 taco. incredible tires year round and off road. but at 10 ply, my MPG went to crap and also they were LOUD. I got 80,000 km (50K miles) and still had tread left.
I bought these recently, love 'em so far. Bought them as 255/85r16 for my 3rd gen Tacoma. I think if I buy new wheels I'll get something with a slight negative offset, or close to 0 just so I can get a little more flushness with the fender flares, or a slight poke out from the fender flares. I love the look of the pizza cutters and they perform fantastically but on stock TRD off road wheels they look a little slight. I don't notice noise at all, on occasion I drive my mother around in her Honda Fit and that thing's studded winters are WAY louder than the ST MAXX ever could be.
@@RobDaman Only a couple hundred km with in town and highway use, you'd think they'd be loudest at their newest (knobbiest) but they're quiet. I do get a loud hum/almost rumble when coming down in speed but it's negligible. At anything past 35km/hr (give or take 22mi/hr) the truck creates more wind noise than tires could.
Have these in my 4 runner ... I got into some red clay peanut butter mud we call it in Texas .. stuff is slick as ice .. these pulled right through in 2wd .. just kept em spinning to clean em out .. never touched 4wd
@@RobDaman Yes. I feel they are nearly as quiet as the stock wranglers. The sidewalls have great tread pattern for sidewall grip as well. I believe the ATX is taking place of the AT2s. The price was also very competitive with other brands. Discount tire shipped them for free to my door as well.
Good video, mt tires look cool but not practical as they don’t last long and not very good grip on wet pavement plus they’re heavy, not a good price to pay for attention.Those might be my next tire or the nitto ridge grapplers.
I looked at both before purchasing ST MAXX. The Ridge Grapplers have a great tread design, look awesome, but I didn't want to buy new rims for C load 285/70r17. Out of cheapness I ended up going for 255/85r16 Coopers even though they're E load and kept my stock wheels... also saved having to chop the cab mount because I have no idea where would've done that in my small town.
Yeah I agree with you Porgils. Also they became louder. However, they look great and I trust them with my life. My MPGs suck tho. I have the skinnier 235/85/16
So it's been a whole year and 15k miles that I've owned these Cooper ST Maxx in 285/75R16. They are basically 33 inch tires.
Super quick conclusion about them.
Thanks for watching.
305 is the size for 33" 275 is like a 31.50
Hi. I mentioned both in the video
@@charleybrack9447 totally understand. St Maxx was just like that issue you have. I reviewed the general atx and definitely quieter. I'm testing out a Toyo RT now which is a close cousin to Nitto
@@charleybrack9447 volks aren't hubcentric but I haven't had vibration issues.
@@probmxjona those numbers are for width of the tire. Height is second
I've had KO2 before and was looking for something different. I got these because of your great review. I got these on Friday. Went to Lytle Creek yesterday and they were great. Thanks for the videos.
Glad to hear and appreciate the feedback 👍
Super helpful! I’m in the market for a new set and this was great feedback, thanks Rob! 👍🏻
Thanks for watching.
Glad I could help.
I've got about 4k on my ST Maxxes now - rotated at 3k prior to my second track day. I really like them over the KO2s that came stock, way more grip in all conditions. They were the only tire that was in the same weight range as the K02s while being more aggressive, and I heard they were quiet. They are quiet for how aggressive they are, but I must say they are just loud enough to be annoying to me on rough country roads above 55mph. Measured about 70-72db in the cab.
They are a lot tougher than the KO2s, but my baja shenanigans on rocky terrain is eating up them too. The siping in the center tread is much bigger now (being chunked out) and the edges of the tires are scuffed/eradicated by now, which is a bit disappointing with only about 100 offroad miles on them. But I shredded the K02s in 38 miles of that kind of driving, so can't really blame them too much.
Ya the noise is ridiculous for an AT albeit a hybrid. May as well get the ST Pro or other MT
@@RobDaman You think so? Have you run other MTs? I remember the KM1 being louder, but not tremendously so.
@@russellmozingo2822 I never ran MTs just the AT hybrids. KM3 I heard are quiet for what they are as well as the Grabber MTs. At SEMA I saw so many new tire brands that I never heard of. It's crazy nowadays.
good looking set up. Good to see you using 16" wheels. Cant stand seeing lifted "offroad" trucks with giant wheels with low pro tires. Looks ridiculous.
Im more of a full size HD truck guy (for work purposes) but those Tacomas are nice trucks. If I didnt need a HD with long bed, Id get one
Thanks for the compliment. I love full size trucks. I just hate parking em.
I run STT Pros, my girlfriend runs AT 4S, and her son has ST Max and we all have the same experience with the more aggressive Cooper tires. The noise increases significantly as they wear. Otherwise they all perform great.
agreed. 10k miles i think was a little too premature for that much noise. i did rotate front to back but i saw that General tires for theirs recommends criss cross.
Good review. A lot of the stuff I’ve read online was that these are fairly quiet in comparison to other All terrains. I ran duratracs and was happy with them other than weak to sharp stuff. Those were pretty loud too.
They were really quiet but not much later
Rob Daman how much weight to balance. Just got mine mounted today and one has 4.5oz stacked up with double rows of weights on one side
Don't recall but that sounds right.
had em on my 13 taco. incredible tires year round and off road. but at 10 ply, my MPG went to crap and also they were LOUD. I got 80,000 km (50K miles) and still had tread left.
Good to know it's not just me about noise
I bought these recently, love 'em so far. Bought them as 255/85r16 for my 3rd gen Tacoma. I think if I buy new wheels I'll get something with a slight negative offset, or close to 0 just so I can get a little more flushness with the fender flares, or a slight poke out from the fender flares. I love the look of the pizza cutters and they perform fantastically but on stock TRD off road wheels they look a little slight. I don't notice noise at all, on occasion I drive my mother around in her Honda Fit and that thing's studded winters are WAY louder than the ST MAXX ever could be.
Hi, how many miles so far? I think strict rotation seems to help prevent it or at least minimize it.
@@RobDaman Only a couple hundred km with in town and highway use, you'd think they'd be loudest at their newest (knobbiest) but they're quiet. I do get a loud hum/almost rumble when coming down in speed but it's negligible. At anything past 35km/hr (give or take 22mi/hr) the truck creates more wind noise than tires could.
Give it to 8k plus. I think stringent rotation will help. I still love the performance
I have E range 255/85r16s on my F350. I’ve heard they are known to pull to the right. Since you have the same size, does that happen to you?
Have these in my 4 runner ... I got into some red clay peanut butter mud we call it in Texas .. stuff is slick as ice .. these pulled right through in 2wd .. just kept em spinning to clean em out .. never touched 4wd
how's the noise been?
The Cooper AT hybrid looks sick. :). You still have a lot of tread ,but can;t wait to see what tires you'll get next. Thanks for the review.
Ya.they had a chart showing when you should care about treadwear and it was way past the green.
thanks for watching.
Great info Rob, thanks a lot. Just got the ST/Maxx for my Wrangler JL with 35", will come back and share how it goes
Glad to help. Looking forward to hearing your feedback.
Try the BF Goodrich KM3, really good tire and surprisingly quiet for a mud tire.
Ya been thinking about them. I'm just concerned for street traction as it's my daily driver
I use them on Taco, it’s my daily driver. I’ve had them for about 10k miles now.
Really enjoy your videos, keep up the good work.
Ever thought about running the Cooper STT pros Rob? That’s what I run on my Taco and I love them. 😍
I have. a buddy of mine just got a set. I'm waiting to hear his feedback. he had st maxx and didn't notice it being noisy like I did.
@@RobDaman any update on the st maxx vs stt pro? on the fence between the two
@@12archer13 Im sure its too late, but i had stt pros on my old f150 and they were really loud
Mine are a bit noisy too. Running em a out two years. Solid on the trails tho.
yes exactly. mine seem to get ridiculously loud.
Those are very good tire. But yeah they a little noisy.
Would You recommend these tires as good/decent for rain/wet conditions? Often AT/MT tires are really sloppy even in rain not to mention snow/ice.
They are great for grip. I never had a problem with that. the issue it's noisy.
General Grabber ATX FTW...
considering those? good on the streets?
@@RobDaman Yes. I feel they are nearly as quiet as the stock wranglers. The sidewalls have great tread pattern for sidewall grip as well. I believe the ATX is taking place of the AT2s. The price was also very competitive with other brands. Discount tire shipped them for free to my door as well.
Good video, mt tires look cool but not practical as they don’t last long and not very good grip on wet pavement plus they’re heavy, not a good price to pay for attention.Those might be my next tire or the nitto ridge grapplers.
I'm looking at those too
I looked at both before purchasing ST MAXX. The Ridge Grapplers have a great tread design, look awesome, but I didn't want to buy new rims for C load 285/70r17. Out of cheapness I ended up going for 255/85r16 Coopers even though they're E load and kept my stock wheels... also saved having to chop the cab mount because I have no idea where would've done that in my small town.
I have coopers st at maxx . There is hardly any noise. Oh they have given me 89,000 km over 8 years. Rubber is past it's life now.
you got lucky. later batches must have cut corners. I'm not the only one with the issue.
got this tires, find them to hard and to heavy
ya E rated are heavy. These are indeed stiff. I have General ATX now that are E rated but the sidewall is 2 thick plies vs 3 so it's more 'cushy'
Yeah I agree with you Porgils. Also they became louder. However, they look great and I trust them with my life. My MPGs suck tho. I have the skinnier 235/85/16
When you have a $1350 set of Firestone MT2s half gone at 4K miles, you'll search for harder treads.
Love my maxx's on my taco
Great performing tire
we want to see tyre not your face all over screen
half the video were the tires and the truck. did you watch it?