Will AI create useless class of people? - Yuval Noah Harari

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  • čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
  • Yuval Noah Harari is one of the world's most famous public intellectuals, historians and writers. He is probably most famous for his book 'Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind'. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News_Subscribe)
    His most recent book, 'Sapiens: A Graphic History, Volume 2: The Pillars of Civilization' has just been published and offers a different way of telling the story of humankind for a younger audience.
    Yuval talks to Krishnan about where racism comes from, what the recipe for a dictatorship is and why we should be very careful about how we used artificial intelligence.
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Komentáře • 519

  • @andrewlambert7246
    @andrewlambert7246 Před 2 lety +50

    Imagine how stupid we are as human beings. We have given away our data for free to companies and worst all we do nothing about it.

    • @Lauritz777
      @Lauritz777 Před 2 lety +4

      Exactly. We are seduced.

    • @jcistw3639
      @jcistw3639 Před 2 lety +1

      Who has the power to fight the Beast ? You ? Me ? Or Jesus Christ!

    • @fransjebik8554
      @fransjebik8554 Před rokem +3

      @@jcistw3639 We all together!

    • @117Industries
      @117Industries Před rokem

      @turtle key I think that the harder someone tries, the more they realise in how many different ways they can pull away from technology.
      Your examples were great!

    • @117Industries
      @117Industries Před rokem +1

      @turtle key Walking around and making the concerted effort to build your local “internal map”. Communal events and get-togethers. Reading over Netflix and TV. Sports over videogames. Calisthenics over gym equipment, and schedules and notes instead of apps. Printed notebooks instead of apps like Todoist. The list goes on.

  • @jisley7371
    @jisley7371 Před 2 lety +47

    I think Harari is a good example of the useless class.

    • @ms.information8747
      @ms.information8747 Před rokem +1

      Harari: Globalist-trained PoMo pseudo-intellectual.

    • @humanculturesareautonomous3020
      @humanculturesareautonomous3020 Před rokem +12

      Harari is the best specimen of the most evil class.

    • @BettathanEzra
      @BettathanEzra Před rokem

      @@humanculturesareautonomous3020 corporations are not people..corporations kill for the elites and those tha tbelieve in hierarchy

    • @fabiosilva9637
      @fabiosilva9637 Před rokem +2

      Why?

    • @jisley7371
      @jisley7371 Před rokem

      @@fabiosilva9637 He has the intellectual maturity of an angsty teenager who's discovered atheism. None of his ideas are new, ground breaking or rooted in anything resembling real science, just the same elitist ideas repackaged for ears itching to hear them. A decent welder adds more value to the world than this guy. The globalists and silicon valley are going to make a lot of big promises about the future and when they fail to deliver on them things will get ugly.

  • @justaguy328
    @justaguy328 Před rokem +27

    This guy is the living embodiment of "professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"

    • @titanomachy2217
      @titanomachy2217 Před 9 měsíci

      He's the classic globalist elitist. These Jewish supremacist types don't even view gentiles as human.

  • @idonotlikethismusic
    @idonotlikethismusic Před 2 lety +23

    "Useless class of people"? What disgusting framing and a horrendous way to reduce people to their economic function.

    • @sheep3370
      @sheep3370 Před 2 lety +4

      What would you like them to say? 'People who are undoubtedly have value but are basically no longer needed in their jobs because technology can do it more efficiently'? Bit of a mouthful

    • @idonotlikethismusic
      @idonotlikethismusic Před 2 lety +5

      @@sheep3370 i would rather have him refer to the uselessness of the jobs rather than the people

    • @JustAThought01
      @JustAThought01 Před 2 lety +5

      Maybe we should take the time to understand the implications of the words being used. What is the purpose of human life? Each additional human life comes with a cost in Earth resources used during that lifetime. We each live to serve ourselves and others. Economics is the standard way we value the service of others. Perhaps we should start by achieving zero population growth. Then, ensure that there are jobs available for each individual that wishes to earn their income by their labor. Automation simply allows each individual to be more productive. Therefore, we should each have more free time to enjoy our lives.

    • @Ablequerq
      @Ablequerq Před 2 lety +4

      They're high on the hierarchy so they think they're better than everyone.

    • @Alghamdiim
      @Alghamdiim Před 2 lety +4

      @@JustAThought01 wow didn't think the answer for overpopulation issue would be in a youtube video comments section

  • @boredgrass
    @boredgrass Před 2 lety +33

    @The title: There is a decisive difference between calling people useless, no matter for which reason and recognising that a certain group of people don't have useful responsibilities, tasks or jobs! To qualify people as "useless" takes a specific attitude. That attitude shaped the darkest history of my home country Germany. Words matter and have consequences. Video not watched.

    • @SuperTonyony
      @SuperTonyony Před 2 lety +7

      Well said!

    • @Pablo98145
      @Pablo98145 Před 2 lety +2

      He means what he says. His masters openly talk of the 'useless eaters', they are monsters.. They are the globalists.. This horrible little shill serves them well.

    • @williamthomas2830
      @williamthomas2830 Před 10 měsíci

      Aktion T4.

  • @stevenyourke7901
    @stevenyourke7901 Před 2 lety +49

    Useless people! What a concept! It’s really stunning when you think about it. It assumes that humans are - or at least, should be - useful to others and of they lack utility to others, they are somehow diminished in value. But are people not intrinsically valuable? If a person doesn’t produce goods and services to be consumed by society, does that person lack value?

    • @mo1912
      @mo1912 Před 2 lety +5

      In a capitalist society yes

    • @stevenyourke7901
      @stevenyourke7901 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mo1912 True! I, for one, aspire to become totally useless as quickly as possible!

    • @Circe_the_daughter_of_sun
      @Circe_the_daughter_of_sun Před 2 lety

      Brilliant point!

    • @jpfrank4228
      @jpfrank4228 Před rokem +1

      Valueing those who produce goods and service and not valueing those who only take is not a capitalist idea, it's deeply embedded in human behaviour.
      Think about back when we were in tribes of 100-150 engaged in a constant struggle for survival. People hated and punished the shirkers (rightfully so).
      Yes, we are in an intigrated global tribe now of many billions, and we are far more prosperous, but our continued survival and prosperity depends upon people continuing to provide the goods and services that makes our civilisation possible. Shirkers will always be punished, if they are a drain on society when they could contribute.
      Of course, when i say "shirkers" i am not reffering to those who cant contribute, such as children, elderly, sick/disabled (mentally or physically).
      Unlike other economic systems capitalism (tries) to reward people (via money) proportionally to the value they contribute to their fellow humans. Of course, it doesn't do this perfectly, but it incentivises hard work/innovation, whilst leaving shirkers with nothing

    • @rey_nemaattori
      @rey_nemaattori Před rokem +1

      *Valuable to what or whom? To nature? The solar system? The universe? God? They really don't care.*
      So the logical answer would be: to other humans, to the social group, the civilization or organisation they belong to.
      *Are all people equally valuable to all other humans, their social group, their civilization or organisation they belong to?*
      Let me answer that with other questions:
      Do you value your parents or siblings equal as a random stranger?
      What about your friends?
      Is a drug addict as valuable to the scientific community as Einstein was?
      Is a murderer as valuable to society as Mother Theresa?
      I reckon you they're not.
      Which clearly means people can have different values to other humans, their tribe or civilization. They may have intrinsic value as a sentient human being, but that doesn't stop their value from fluctuating _depending on what you're comparing it to_, which also means means everyone will have a comparison to which they're useless. And some people will have more comparisons in which they're falling short than others, simply because of
      So 'useless' in this context means compared: to average economic value.
      And yes, in that sense there's plenty of people who use more than they create.
      But people are more than their economic prestige.

  • @emm_arr
    @emm_arr Před 2 lety +22

    The internet has created a class of people who think they know best - despite obviously not doing so.
    The sheer hubris is stunning.

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr Před 2 lety +3

      @Owain I was referring to people like you.

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr Před 2 lety +3

      @Owain No. I'm the clever one of the two of us, and I earned what I got by a combination of being more clever than you and working hard at what I was learning.
      You are not that sort of person, and your ignorance is not equivalent to the knowledge others have.

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr Před 2 lety +3

      @Owain Cool hubris, Owain.

    • @girlsforstemusa970
      @girlsforstemusa970 Před 2 lety

      That is true

    • @deepdude4719
      @deepdude4719 Před 2 lety

      @Owain I like you a lot.

  • @scottc5674
    @scottc5674 Před 2 lety +20

    If you can read people by their faces(physiognomy) you wouldn't trust that man not even a little bit.
    He desperately tried to gain your trust in order to gain more authority for him self because he knows that most people(80% - don't have a critical mind) if you not an authority they wouldn't listen to you but if you are especially if you are big one, world-known authority, they would blindly believe you even when you throw at them all sort of nonsense)- but behind all that nonsense, he is throw at you, pure evil agenda - nothing else.
    Look carefully into his eyes - there are no anybody interest but only his own. Those kind of people live by principle "goal justifies any means." They are usually using a lot of right words and examples but don't let them to fool you behind all of that only their evil agenda - depopulation by 90% - 95%.

    • @markusmath3421
      @markusmath3421 Před rokem +2

      I'm not defending him but this physiognomy talk is pretty awful. There are plenty of people who wouldn't pass someone's standards for physiognomy in an edgy comments section who are good and noble at heart. Maybe you're just making a point about his tribe but does this apply to ppl of other backgrounds?

  • @Dr.JRemington
    @Dr.JRemington Před 2 lety +5

    Because the comments are turned off on video of Yuval Harari’s World Economic Forum (WEF) Davos 2020 speech, I’m going to make a quick mention of something here. By the way, I encourage everyone to watch his Davos speech, and read in between the lines.
    At the end of Harari’s 2020 Davos speech, he brings up the possibility that humanity may face an existential threat if the technologies that are quickly approaching (if not here already) fall into the wrong hands. ….. This I agree with. I am extremely concerned that technology , specifically AI driven, will become so powerful that if used by “bad actors” it will ignite a catastrophe so devastating that it will wipe out humanity as we know it.
    But, Harari goes on to label the surviving members of humanity - implying after governments, corporations, elite ruling class, etc. gets annihilated - as “rats”. At first I figured I must have missed something, and that he literally meant only rats (the animals) would survive. But after watching the last minute of his speech 5 times, it’s clear that I hadn’t missed anything… he referred to the remaining human beings as ”rats”.
    *Maybe the WEF, Davos attendees, and the cadre of elite technocrats are actually the ones who pose the biggest threat to human kind. Well I take that back, not “maybe”, definitely.*

  • @cwfilli
    @cwfilli Před 2 lety +53

    "The biggest discovery of the scientific revolution was the discovery of ignorance." - YN Harari

    • @vasukinagabhushan
      @vasukinagabhushan Před 2 lety +9

      This is what Socrates said long back.

    • @simonlee8889
      @simonlee8889 Před 2 lety +2

      Says a man who openly admits only his husband knows how to work their tv and music systems... And today's ignorance has not been discovered, it has been manufactured..

    • @englishsteve1465
      @englishsteve1465 Před 2 lety +9

      @@simonlee8889 I'd say more rediscovered aswell as manufactured/exploited. Oligarch money has been funding some genuine sociopaths to guide this enormous propaganda machine. Genuinely smh at the audacity, the lengths they've gone to. It's sick.

    • @simonlee8889
      @simonlee8889 Před 2 lety +2

      @@englishsteve1465 Very sick, agreed. Never any shortage a psychopaths, sadly..The really sickening thing is the 'for the good of humanity' schtick as the banksters prepare for the theft of the Global Commons and develop asset classes that will make the plundering of the whole planet and all of human misery games in a casino..

    • @laughingachilles
      @laughingachilles Před 2 lety

      You think this is an intelligent comment? Ignorance was well recognised before the scientific revolution.
      Harari is a hack.

  • @xbozon6712
    @xbozon6712 Před 2 lety +19

    Inefficiency is a feature not a bug lol

  • @melissaalfaro814
    @melissaalfaro814 Před 2 lety +44

    Listening to him make me want to start a revolution to demand regulations about my data for the big companies. Also, I’m downloading other search engines (different than Google) and using different browsers. I got into reading about privacy in internet. Idk what else I can do as individual

    • @VincentGill3
      @VincentGill3 Před 2 lety +5

      They (the masters who make the rules) want to devolve human beings into human doings.

    • @jeffgrey2161
      @jeffgrey2161 Před 2 lety +1

      @@VincentGill3 well, then by their standards, things in the US are going swimmingly..

    • @thelildarklight8796
      @thelildarklight8796 Před 2 lety

      Buy gold and silver

    • @TheCelticsAREboss
      @TheCelticsAREboss Před 2 lety

      Nobody cares about your data. Stop being paranoid

    • @117Industries
      @117Industries Před rokem

      @@VincentGill3 How is that a devolution?
      If you’re working in a coal mine for 10 hours whacking a pick axe head against ore face then I’d agree. But I think with the looming 4th industrial revolution and the advent of robots and advanced A.I., we needn’t worry about that one bit.
      A ‘human doing’ would be an active agent who has a purpose, whose life has meaning, and who strives towards that purpose with energy and Will.
      What’s wrong with that? Culture depends on it.
      And what culture do we have without that? Big Brother? I’m a Celebrity: Get Me Out of Here?
      Or the levelling of the hard-built special reputation of our S.F. units through Channel 4’s own ‘Who Dares Wins’?
      It would be senseless to enslave a population when you can enslave a machine instead. The machine can be more reliably and easily programmed not to complain or revolt. Humans do their best work when they believe the desire to do that work comes from within, and this isn’t slavery.
      So what do you have to compete with the human ‘being’? Do you have a solution better than the human ‘doing’?

  • @JacquelineHoman
    @JacquelineHoman Před rokem +8

    I'm 55 years old. I've heard the "retraining" spiel before. After the Great Recession of 2008, I struggled as a poor marginalized middle-aged housewife with dyslexia from generational poverty here in the US to get "retrained" (on top of the Bachelors degree in math I already had that I earned at age 34 which never opened one single door to a job opportunity for me, by the way) in coding/web app development. But because I'm a woman and because I was in my early 40s, I never got a chance for a job. I participated in three such "retraining" schemes but never got picked for any entry level jobs I could have succeeded at in the field. Women and older workers trying to re-enter the job market were and are still discriminated against in tech and tech jobs comprise only about 8-10% of good jobs (but those tech jobs are rapidly eating other good white-collar jobs in other fields). The only women that even get a chance for any job at a tech company are women who are under age 35 who are from upper-middle class/upper-class families that help them get jobs, and who are "eye candy" (also known as "pretty privilege"). I'm not the only poor person whose skills, aptitude and talent was wasted by the over-privileged economic gatekeepers in this society because of being made disposable due to discrimination. Algorithms decide who gets a job interview and who does not, who gets hired and who does not-for any job, even crappy minimum wage jobs like part-time minimum wage cashier at the local Smoker Friendly outlet.

  • @diankorem6995
    @diankorem6995 Před 2 lety +10

    why they keep showing Krishnan's face while the other person is talking? it is unnecessary and a little bit disturbing ..

  • @Willy_Tepes
    @Willy_Tepes Před rokem +2

    Useless means "not needed", and when used about people, the path leads to mass graves. Let us pray that the right people fill them.

  • @jennifercuddy5663
    @jennifercuddy5663 Před 2 lety +14

    That’s terrifying. There are so many people manipulated by algorithms now.

  • @okeribok
    @okeribok Před 2 lety +6

    A useless class of people already exists. I estimate about 30% of jobs to be completely superfluous and exist solely because we can not imagine a society where people do not have to work. Those jobs waste energy and resources and obstruct people with useful jobs.

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes Před rokem +2

      Work (primary sector) is the only thing that creates wealth. But you are correct that about 30% of jobs are superfluous, they are mainly in the government sector and service industry.

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie Před 3 měsíci

      that's called bullshit jobs, the class the people who are in them are useful in a capitalist sense. the people the author are referring to are economically unproductive if AI goes into overdrive (but really they're just the first people it comes for us all just later for programmers)

  • @DivinaeMisericordiae77
    @DivinaeMisericordiae77 Před rokem +5

    Even if his prediction of an autonomous future was to emerge no one should never ever be considered useless!!

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes Před rokem

      Do you know what the Talmud considers us non-Jews?
      These are not the people we should allow to run the world.

    • @sufficientmagister9061
      @sufficientmagister9061 Před rokem +1

      A rogue, self-serving, conscious Artificial Super-Intelligence most likely will not take that particular comment into consideration.

    • @KNUKOK
      @KNUKOK Před 11 měsíci

      ​@sufficientmagister9061 Where's the wtf emoji when you need it. Bring on the hunger games.

  • @witness1013
    @witness1013 Před 2 lety +10

    Social Media had already done this.

  • @maggie_codes
    @maggie_codes Před rokem +3

    If our data is being used in an unethical way already, then why would anyone want to have an implant in their brain that would transmit information automatically? Also, I've head Yuval say in multiple videos that the brain/interface computer will help you to know yourself better than you think you know yourself..... This is not logical. The algorithm has to be written to a certain set of standards (created by someone who makes a bunch of assumptions that can be correct or incorrect). Humans are too dynamic to for this type of categorization.

  • @brendanmccann5695
    @brendanmccann5695 Před 2 lety +3

    Fantastic interview!
    I've been watching Channel 4 for a couple of years. Shorter news pieces. I've found them to be good. For an irishman living in USA they've giving me useful info & insights on UK attitudes.This long piece however is a revelation.Such interesting, exciting, stimulating conversation! I had no idea C4 was putting out such high quality work.
    Well done Channel4. Well done Krishnan.

  • @Truefactsbites
    @Truefactsbites Před 2 lety

    I am reading you recently and listing your talks are really opening new ways of thunking

  • @jessicasfakeaccount
    @jessicasfakeaccount Před 2 lety +4

    while he's correct on some level in arguing that simple avoidance isn't enough, it's really a question of what it is that you're after. i actually am the odd weirdo that doesn't carry a smart phone - at all - and i'm cognizant of how frustrating i am to the authorities here in canada, who are nonetheless trying to track me in ways they're no longer trained to, for the apparent reason that i use the communications technology without using the devices they're taught to use. so, i will log on to the internet and type with a keyboard using a laptop, but i won't carry a phone, or even log in to facebook. they don't know _what_ to do when faced with something so simple, yet so incomprehensible to them. the general narrative we've been hearing for decades is about how technology makes workers lazy or stupid, but i think that's the less important narrative; we're losing touch with a narrative (i remember seeing on the original star trek series) about how the technology makes _government_ stupid and lazy. if i'm being actively spied on, as i see large amounts of evidence that i am, i'm not being spied on by smart scientists that understand how the technology works, and can adjust to simple evasion techniques. no - i'm being spied on by poorly educated law enforcement officials that have to rely on their training, and are no longer being taught what to do beyond pushing a few buttons. when the state becomes reliant on technology in this way, it actually loses the ability to make simple decisions, and in that sense becomes easier to evade. if you can automate the automation, you can perhaps transcend that, but it's the old luddite paradox: somebody has to exist behind the robots, at some point. for right now, let me tell you, i'm pretty sure i'm working out a proof of concept in simply not carrying a phone, or logging into the servers they use to trace people with. i can see evidence of how baffling i am to them, and the level of difficulty they're having with the non-compliance. in the long run, if normal people can sort of clue into this, an over-reliance on technology by the state could very well lead to their own collapse, as they forget how to do basic things, and workers find it easier to evade control as a result of it. we'll see what happens, but i think that this narrative of decadence is deifying the state, when it should be humanizing it - and that the chinese may find, in the end, that their reliance on the technology is their undoing.

  • @sweaung07
    @sweaung07 Před 2 lety +2

    I learnt a lot from your great conversation!

  • @lemdixon01
    @lemdixon01 Před 2 lety +11

    An algorithm is just a flow chart expressed as computer code, if-then statements, but that doesnt sound as impressive.

    • @lemdixon01
      @lemdixon01 Před 2 lety +2

      @Gill Munchen lol, I think so

  • @IanMcGarrett
    @IanMcGarrett Před 2 lety +2

    Smart people might become redundant but us dumb folks will continue living our lives...

  • @nicky29031977
    @nicky29031977 Před 2 lety +24

    I've read all three of YNH's science books and am absolutely hooked! Such brilliantly thought provoking and soul searching analysis of humanity, history, the future and the destiny of the universe. Please write a fourth Mr. Harari.

    • @TechGreguy
      @TechGreguy Před 2 lety +10

      You people are completely lost 🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @nicky29031977
      @nicky29031977 Před 2 lety +2

      @@TechGreguy Why are we completely lost?

    • @notme8679
      @notme8679 Před 2 lety +7

      He's a monster.

    • @kizza802
      @kizza802 Před rokem

      @@nicky29031977 you just answered your own question with your question. The guy is a scumbag!

    • @jasonconcessio5553
      @jasonconcessio5553 Před rokem

      @nicky29031977 he's a globalist gaslighting not so intelligent puppet. He wants you and everything you hold dear to you exterminated and will attempt to do so when AI becomes self aware because he believes humans are useless eaters like the nazis thought with people with who were disabled or sick in those days. There's nothing great about this devil worshipping npc. Nothing would make this man happier than to see all human life wiped off the planet. That's who you admire???

  • @amcreative3784
    @amcreative3784 Před 2 lety +5

    Is it a class of people who will use less?

  • @rodatwhodesign
    @rodatwhodesign Před 2 lety +11

    Another great interview, thanks for putting it together. Really interesting points about the mindset of the medieval person's world view in comparison with our own, among many others.

  • @galations22o
    @galations22o Před 2 lety +5

    This guy is insane!!!!!!!

  • @mercurious6699
    @mercurious6699 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent interview - thank you

  • @Allgood33
    @Allgood33 Před 2 lety +1

    Harari is among the best now. I do hope that someday he'll do more intensive China studies to complete his genius brain. Maybe starts with Adrian Zenz and his twitt?
    "The BBC commissioned my research. They asked the first time whether it could be done. I said "no", too hard, too little evidence. They asked again, I said: "let me see what I can find". Well, the resulting finding now total 17,000 words and 163 footnotes."
    Talk about story making. . . . follow the money.

  • @katzolitamason6729
    @katzolitamason6729 Před 2 lety +6

    How could it when people were made to be artists? To be able to focus on the higher things in life, to express our creativity and to learn about Nature, to write books, to dance, to sing, to act, to direct! This is what we were born for! The machines are freeing us up for our truer purpose

    • @autumnhomer9786
      @autumnhomer9786 Před 2 lety +2

      🌼I’ve heard this said by other people before as well.🌼

    • @casteretpollux
      @casteretpollux Před 2 lety +3

      Not under capitalism tho

    • @louisdewit4429
      @louisdewit4429 Před 2 lety +4

      Sing and dance as you like. How will you feed yourself ?
      Over the back of your slave who is doing the real work ?

    • @marianhunt8899
      @marianhunt8899 Před 2 lety +1

      Well have no money, we won't be able to buy food never mind create

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes Před rokem

      If you don't work, you are leaching off others. Get a real job God dammit!

  • @girlsforstemusa970
    @girlsforstemusa970 Před 2 lety

    Following! Very insightful information

  • @Zenhumanist
    @Zenhumanist Před 2 lety

    My book mark is just about to start the ‘Hocus pocus and the industry of disbelief’. Fantastic read.

  • @shora8478
    @shora8478 Před 2 lety +2

    Brilliant. Well done!

  • @charlottemarceau8062
    @charlottemarceau8062 Před 2 lety +12

    Most AI runs on data from people, you're not useless you've just had you work erased and stolen. Look up how translate works, it needs your data to work

    • @charlottemarceau8062
      @charlottemarceau8062 Před 2 lety +1

      Self learning with no data input? Generates its own input data yeah?

    • @charlottemarceau8062
      @charlottemarceau8062 Před 2 lety +1

      Right so peoples google searches are the input data

    • @charlottemarceau8062
      @charlottemarceau8062 Před 2 lety +1

      Right, so lots of the important data comes from humans, so they should be compensated for their input instead of having their work erased and having their data just stolen. That's what i said to begin with

  • @Detector1977
    @Detector1977 Před 2 lety +6

    He says basic logic things in a very elegant way. He isn't a billionaire....

  • @ricardoafonso7884
    @ricardoafonso7884 Před 2 lety +4

    So much wisdom shared .. for those that know how to read between the lines (within the confines of what CZcams would permit without being censored). Be smart, people .. listen twice to fully capture what he's trying to communicate to us

    • @louisdewit4429
      @louisdewit4429 Před 2 lety +1

      Yuval is a typical jewish liberal. YOU divide. We cling to each-other. You don’t want to divide yourself ? You’re a tribal racist fascist. NOT we jews. We are everywhere, like the Chinese, and cling to each-other. And before programmed pc idiots start screaming ‘Anti-semite’. Forget it. I highly admire them AND learn from them.
      I just hate the double standards for them, and for other ethnicities.

    • @spikesdad2053
      @spikesdad2053 Před 2 lety

      What deeper message is he communicating?

  • @chriscoffee9070
    @chriscoffee9070 Před 2 lety +2

    Yes, you might trust your doctor, but if your doctor stores the information on you in the same massive database that all the other doctors use, then that database is just asking to be exploited, even if your doctor has only good, honest intentions. It also presents the owners of that database with many highly lucrative options to sell or use that data themselves. That is what the social media platforms do, it is their business model.

  • @FHBStudio
    @FHBStudio Před rokem +2

    We already have a class of useless people before the emergence of AI, and they regularly meet at Davos.

  • @maggieadams8600
    @maggieadams8600 Před 2 lety +2

    How will AI function without an electrical supply and can that power be provided forever? What lives outside the interconnected circle of life is dependent upon that life to survive. There's a greater intelligence that AI at work in everything seen and unseen. Flowers and trees for example. Microbes. A vast tapestry of life that's still unfolding. Still, that was a very interesting talk, thank you!

  • @lizgichora6472
    @lizgichora6472 Před 2 lety

    Thank you.

  • @nordeltina
    @nordeltina Před 2 lety +17

    Brilliant interview! listening to Harari is truly amazing

  • @lemdixon01
    @lemdixon01 Před 2 lety +4

    They forgot Artificial Stupidity

    • @GR-sc3ph
      @GR-sc3ph Před 2 lety

      This must precede for the AI to exist.

    • @lemdixon01
      @lemdixon01 Před 2 lety

      @@GR-sc3ph AI doesnt exist

  • @Darhan62
    @Darhan62 Před 2 lety +3

    Words are abstract. Images are concrete. Hence there's a whole industry of concept designers and illustrators who translate written ideas into visual representations.

  • @TheDonosul
    @TheDonosul Před 2 lety +6

    Well journalists will have to go for a start, 99% of office workers will be redundant, schools, universities: totally unnecessary; CEO’s? No need for most of them right now!
    The thing is; the sort of people who will no longer be required are not the ones who currently think that their position in society is assured, who think that they are indispensable.
    The late Stephen Hawking said that the greatest threat to humanity was AI. I wouldn’t particularly argue with that, but it takes a certain kind of scientific “genius” to pursue such projects; reminiscent of the type who developed the nuclear bomb.
    Lots of intelligence, but no brains.

  • @PMMagro
    @PMMagro Před 2 lety +1

    That is what everyone said when machines were introduced and farming too needed much fewer people.
    Why whould it be so different this time around? Progress is good. Sure some skills will be made redundant/less valuable but overall ...

    • @shane_asylum
      @shane_asylum Před 2 lety

      'were', not "where". 'introduced', not "intriduced".
      Edumafuckingcation

    • @PMMagro
      @PMMagro Před 2 lety

      @@shane_asylum Og glasses on....

  • @Number_Free
    @Number_Free Před 2 lety +1

    An excellent video. The topic deserves greater exposure.
    I disagree with the theme of algorithms not being able to mimic human behaviour. They can, in principle. Whether we should seek to do such things is another matter of course.
    PS I have studied what I call the "Nature of Intelligence" since the age of 10 - 1965!
    Feel free to interview me 🙂 I dare say that I have a blueprint for a truly intelligent machine inside my head.
    Scary stuff, which is why I haven't spoken about it much before.

  • @annabelsmart5305
    @annabelsmart5305 Před 2 lety +2

    A self-appointed ‘bridge’ ……

  • @StephiSensei26
    @StephiSensei26 Před 2 lety +23

    Brilliant conversation and discourse. We need to consider very carefully the pros and cons of our intrusive technological world, if we do not wish to become a "door mat" for technology to wipe its feet on.

    • @truthseeker4298
      @truthseeker4298 Před 2 lety +2

      Another social engineering project

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 Před 2 lety +1

      Tbh, that sounds more humane than having the upper class doing it.

    • @VincentGill3
      @VincentGill3 Před 2 lety +3

      They (the masters who make the rules) want to devolve human beings into human doings.

    • @StephiSensei26
      @StephiSensei26 Před 2 lety +2

      @@VincentGill3 I would add, "...mindless human doings". The process of systematically removing the "human element" in the thought process is what I find disturbing. "Point and Click". Is this all a human being is capable of? "I want this", "Point and Click!" "Give it to me now!" "Point and Click!" If technology is nothing more than an extension of and the appeasing of our Ego, then I am greatly concerned for the future of mankind. This is nothing new in reality. Just look at some of the early silent film of this century ("Metropolis"), and the evidence that we've been doing this to ourselves for a long time is clear.

    • @VincentGill3
      @VincentGill3 Před 2 lety +5

      @@StephiSensei26 We have all be programmed from birth by the Masters who make the rules. However the tide is now turning against them. You can fool some people sometimes, but you can't fool all the people all of the time. - Best wishes

  • @espada9
    @espada9 Před 2 lety +3

    Preheat oven to 350F.

  • @haaasful
    @haaasful Před 2 lety +6

    A fantastic interview as always with the brilliant Yuval. By the way i recommend his book Lessons for 21st Century which talks about this and many other upcoming societal revolutions.

    • @johnson2joy
      @johnson2joy Před 2 lety +1

      All those sci fi films in the 60s we thought were fiction seemed to have been based on some factual information in the loop but now becoming our reality 50 years on, now we need to look closely on what sci fi is exploring now to see where we will be in another 50 years time...... excellent interview!

  • @Alghamdiim
    @Alghamdiim Před 2 lety +8

    I can listen to this amazing man all day, so captivating.

  • @UnpluggedPerformance
    @UnpluggedPerformance Před 2 lety +11

    "In 20. years the number of people that understand the financial system will be zero. It will be so complicated that only AI will be able to manage it..." => epic, love this. guy, I only wished he would try to learn. how to code to get out some of the bugs in his own reasoning.

  • @TheOne-zc9io
    @TheOne-zc9io Před 2 lety

    What 6:20- 7:00 onwards is interesting. What enforced a more rigid hierarchy?

  • @TheLincolnrailsplitt
    @TheLincolnrailsplitt Před 2 lety +4

    Yuval is probably confident he isn't one of them? Am I right?

    • @Evan490BC
      @Evan490BC Před 2 lety

      Who is "them"?

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes Před rokem

      @@Evan490BC Oh, you know who "they" are, lol.

  • @citizizen
    @citizizen Před 2 lety

    Perhaps we should push our algorithms around virtually, such that people start utilizing it.

  • @spartacusforlife1508
    @spartacusforlife1508 Před 2 lety

    This is not the industrial revolution which created multiple new trades nor are people warning about the effects of A.I. and robotics, Luddites. The simple fact is A.I. and robotics actually decrease the availability of employment, mainly amongst the non skilled, low skilled and various parts of the skill sector but it will sharpely impact on the middle class especially civil servants

    • @factsdonotlie2u247
      @factsdonotlie2u247 Před rokem

      Europe will NOT get their desired 5th Industrial Revolution , seize America and enslave or kill more Americans to achieve it. Their efforts are futile and we’ll see if their “summoned demon” can overthrow “The Supreme Judge of The World” or “THE MOST HOLY UNDIVIDED TRINITY’! czcams.com/video/Tzb_CSRO-0g/video.html

  • @girlsforstemusa970
    @girlsforstemusa970 Před 2 lety +1

    Talk about uncomfortable Technology!

  • @peterdeford
    @peterdeford Před 2 lety +8

    Amazing interview as always! Just would say that I didn't like his view on AI not being very explainable. There is a lot of new methods on AI explainability which allow to know the reasons AI made given decisions. Also, AI can take decisions based on hundreds of variables, but can give much more weight to only a few important ones (not equal weights to all of them).

  • @harrygelben9162
    @harrygelben9162 Před 2 lety

    i have read this book, there was too much AI but still good

  • @jindo74
    @jindo74 Před 2 lety

    Check out 23:37 for how to flash up an exact zero... totally without any awkwardness pre flash at all.

  • @TheDoomWizard
    @TheDoomWizard Před 2 lety +4

    I already feel useless. Guess I have a youtube channel so I'm somebody.

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 Před 2 lety

      I would day that feeling useless yet still alive is an accomplishment, if not a goal. You’ve peaked. Enjoy life.

  • @MegaMARLEEN1
    @MegaMARLEEN1 Před 2 lety

    And I totally agree on the need on more transparency going both ways. In the name of democracy.

  • @gamingtonight1526
    @gamingtonight1526 Před 2 lety +7

    Yes, it will, which is why we need to bring in a universal wage. We could easily afford to pay everybody 25K a year.

    • @autumnhomer9786
      @autumnhomer9786 Před 2 lety +2

      What will people do with their free time?

    • @Papaflo
      @Papaflo Před 2 lety +5

      @@autumnhomer9786 whatever fulfills them or contributes to the society they want to see - there are plenty of things worth doing that does not have a direct monetary value

    • @highonsmog
      @highonsmog Před 2 lety

      25k a year will be wasted. Because all goods will be priced, as if 25k was the new zero. Thus, earning below 25k will be catastrophic. Especially in other countries, where currencies depending on selling cheap mining and simple-labor resources, driving people to such complex competition, in 20 years, the rest of the world will be under constant pressure, leading to endless wars.

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes Před rokem

      Where are you going to get the 25K from? Don't you realize that wealth is only created by work and that the money the government has was stolen from workers, not from some magic money pit at the Federal reserve.

  • @RumoredAtmos
    @RumoredAtmos Před 2 lety +6

    Ai will remove the need of CEO

    • @louisdewit4429
      @louisdewit4429 Před 2 lety +1

      The CEO’s and top-management will protect themselves and their positions. Read money.
      Shareholders are individual, not organized and short term so will have little or no influence nor care. They are there for quick gain.

    • @casteretpollux
      @casteretpollux Před 2 lety +1

      That would be the best outcome. But it could only work with wholesale social change

  • @XShollaj
    @XShollaj Před 2 lety +10

    Love Mr. Yuval and his previous works, however he is overreaching on many issues when discussing about Machine Learning and AI.

    • @reprogrammingmind
      @reprogrammingmind Před 2 lety +2

      thanks for examples.

    • @angelaj8958
      @angelaj8958 Před 2 lety

      @@reprogrammingmind if he had actually done the research on his theoretical couple, one human, the other Neanderthal, he would know that question was answered by genetics. It was a human female and Neanderthal male. He strikes me as a story teller more than a historian.

    • @Ida-Adriana
      @Ida-Adriana Před 2 lety

      I don't know, KLaus Schwab was recently getting an erection over how we are _all_ going to be chipped in the brain, within 10 years. He seems very excited. Also praising the CCP and Xi Jinping. Now the UK is piloting the Social Credit Score, yay. But it's _just_ for weightloss and well being, of course. And you get vouchers, yay!

  • @thomHD
    @thomHD Před 2 lety +3

    AI might be used to fill in indefinite articles

  • @jonobester5817
    @jonobester5817 Před 2 lety +5

    Yuval Noah Harari ought to talk about his own country's Pegasus software.

  • @faramarzmokri9136
    @faramarzmokri9136 Před 2 lety +3

    Robots and AI was created and advancing in a very fast pace for one reason and one reason alone. The economics of these technologies is the driving force behind those inventions. High Labor Cost is the paramount reason why business are adopting the AI technology.

    • @truthseeker4298
      @truthseeker4298 Před 2 lety +1

      After money was invented, then came inflation.

    • @adamhinde9538
      @adamhinde9538 Před 2 lety +3

      Once they adopt AI then they wont need labour....but then the money stops going round. Who will have the money then to buy their goods ?

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 Před 2 lety

      AI and robots are different things. Just AI actually replaces intelligence-reliant jobs, not labour.

    • @monicac8823
      @monicac8823 Před 2 lety

      @@globalist1990 And robots replace labour

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes Před rokem +1

      High labor cost is caused by high taxation. Capitalism is the driving force behind these technologies.

  • @breakfree1949
    @breakfree1949 Před rokem +1

    This WEF guy is Russel brands good friend… awesome

  • @Vlasko60
    @Vlasko60 Před rokem

    I think it is quite easy to go from denial to fatalism. Neither is rooted in reality.

  • @MekonenMeteor123
    @MekonenMeteor123 Před 2 lety +2

    Andrew Yang is talking about it!

  • @ikm64
    @ikm64 Před 2 lety

    Below 83 and you are looking at a "dependant"
    ...and until ya fix that...its a downhill battle to the bottom.
    Yes you can if you like ignore the "problem"... but I promise you this...
    The "problem" will not ignore you!

  • @nicklausss
    @nicklausss Před 2 lety +2

    Oh channel 4, we met again....
    I haven't had your video on my feed since JBP

  • @rezatalakoobi8029
    @rezatalakoobi8029 Před 2 lety +2

    Brilliant interview.
    At the end of the conversation, Mr Harari as a historian mentioned gulf state which needs to be corrected as the Persian Gulf according to the historic documents.

  • @jackwachtel-scott8000
    @jackwachtel-scott8000 Před 2 lety +4

    Once AI evolves and has a mind of its own i.e. consciousness, it is likely that all humans will be both useless and surplus to requirements.

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 Před 2 lety +2

      It’s not inevitable that it will evolve and develop a consciousness.

    • @jackwachtel-scott8000
      @jackwachtel-scott8000 Před 2 lety

      @@globalist1990 I said "consciousness" not conscience. And many in the field believe consciousness is inevitable.

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 Před 2 lety

      @@jackwachtel-scott8000 fixed it.

  • @emkeicastillo8430
    @emkeicastillo8430 Před 2 lety +4

    AI one day will be more smart than people , while human spent a life time mastering skill , AI can be program to perform special skill in a very short period of time , robot like those in terminator one day will be a reality

  • @beatewagner7.2934
    @beatewagner7.2934 Před 2 lety +1

    Frage:
    "WIrd künstliche Intelligenz eine Masse
    von überflüssigen Menschen produzieren?"
    Antwort: "Ja."
    So einfach ist das.
    Tatsache ist, dass die neuen Technologien schon seit vielen Jahren,
    ja mittlerweile sogar schon seit ein paar
    Jahrzehnten Millionen von Menschen
    überflüssig gemacht hat.
    Man bedenke die Entwicklung der Automatisierung, Robotisierung der
    Industrie, Millionen von Arbeitsplätze
    verloren an Maschinen, winziges Beispiel
    Bankomaten...

  • @truthaboveall7988
    @truthaboveall7988 Před rokem +1

    He is on such on another level his meditation 🧘‍♀️ is literally Y he can leap bounds over most thinkers

  • @fabianabatista5016
    @fabianabatista5016 Před rokem

    One suggestion: start listening this one from the end. Then you decide if there is an agenda here or not. That’s the 2% reason of the other 98% of this interview to exist.

  • @veronicaalessandrello1022

    Yes! Despite all the good things AI can contribute to ‘productivity’, we know that the dark side of it also will create the human race destruction at an alarming scale.

    • @alventuradelacruz522
      @alventuradelacruz522 Před rokem

      people will become useless, too much dependant on Ai, take for example those so called ``artist`` that use 100% AI, they are not artist, they are the AI`s clients, if you take away the AI they are nothing, they don`t know about color theory, design or art.

  • @TheOne-zc9io
    @TheOne-zc9io Před 2 lety

    I wonder what can help with the creation of AI and a new universe?

  • @realtruthseeker521
    @realtruthseeker521 Před rokem

    No one can write data without first learning how! It’s not the people it’s opportunity. So some of the people he calls useless might be more brilliant . ???

  • @jeffntexas8920
    @jeffntexas8920 Před rokem +1

    In the near future, if you don't let them monitor you biometrics using biosensors, you don't get health insurance. Is that a world you want to live in?

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes Před rokem

      Oh, you think it will be voluntary????

    • @jeffntexas8920
      @jeffntexas8920 Před rokem +1

      Nope, they will force you to do it or else... Revelation 13:16.

  • @andreasraab5294
    @andreasraab5294 Před 2 lety

    Wunderbar.

  • @avatardailyfitnessjournal
    @avatardailyfitnessjournal Před 5 měsíci

    All human life generally tends to be useful to one person or the other because love cannot be copied by machines and only humans can love each other and have relationships and connections. So calling people useless is meaningless. Its just like pet dogs. You cannot call them useless because they can't do maths. Life is valuable. Computers are our slaves and should not be our masters.

  • @avimoyal149
    @avimoyal149 Před 2 lety +4

    Let's not forget, his specialty is medieval military history, and the history of the war experience. All the other subjects he speaks of, he exhibits utter ignorance in scientific knowledge

  • @bobhabib7662
    @bobhabib7662 Před 2 lety +1

    No, social media did that already. Look at the Kardashians.

  • @purushottam4728
    @purushottam4728 Před 2 lety

    Ultimate

  • @eastafrika728
    @eastafrika728 Před 2 lety +2

    The one thing AI will do since it is balanced is get rid of capitalism, democracy and religion and any feelings of being special. AI does not like selfishness.

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove2000 Před 2 lety +1

    What if important information has been withheld from public view, once known would lead any reasonable rational minded individual to see that the covid innoculation programme has the potential to cause serious harm and many deaths from the side effects later on?.

  • @mycount64
    @mycount64 Před 25 dny

    Ask the AI to show you the evidence and reasoning process to its conclusions. Before you take action.

  • @to6941
    @to6941 Před rokem +2

    He knows a lot more than he letting on, and that’s why I find it all more than a little creepy.

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 Před 23 dny

      not allowed to talk about it here

  • @vasaricorridor7989
    @vasaricorridor7989 Před rokem +2

    where have i seen this guy before ...yes.. the simpson's ..
    its' mr burns as a young grad student

  • @VincentGill3
    @VincentGill3 Před 2 lety +1

    They (the masters who make the rules) want to devolve human beings into human doings.

  • @stephanied7037
    @stephanied7037 Před 2 lety

    I can respect many aspects of what you say. However I think the nationalism/patriotism part is a bit off. At least for Americans. Maybe it is my perspective but for myself, I believe I am a nationalist/patriot. I believe all people born here are Americans no matter your ethnicity or if you want to make America your nation then again you have become an American in my eyes.

  • @kimwarburton8490
    @kimwarburton8490 Před 2 lety

    Useless/usefulness is a construct n in this case about contributing to the economy
    Were/are peniless hermit monks n nuns world over useless 🤔
    We are so used to putting our store of value into our jobs, our contribution towards this destructive neoliberal capitalist win-lose economic model whereby most of us are miserable, living in a survival mentality n feeling like wage-slaves
    What beautiful things could we create if we had back our most valuable resource, time?
    How much more could we love one another n gain skills n talents in that which makes our culture beautiful?
    Im sure im not the only one who didnt persue artistic endeavours due to lack of money n need to pay my bills taking up all my time n energy that my freetime was in truth recovery time vegging out watching mindless tv n my creativity died until i became disabled partially due to work stress

  • @indricotherium4802
    @indricotherium4802 Před 2 lety +1

    2% of global GDP is about $1.5 trillion, by the way, which is roughly half the value of German GDP. Spread across the globe it's not much to save civilisation as we know it. Just takes the will to do it.