Zack & Cody's Descent into Madness
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1:19:30 LGBT stands for London "Girl Boss" Tipton.
This is true and canon.
THEY AINT LIE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
i’ve never watched this video but somehow this comment was liked
^ That glitch can happen??
"How do you lose a woman?"
"You forget to cherish her."
It's funny but it also hurts so much because that's probably why the parents divorced, and Carrie sat them down and explained it to them in those exact words.
At first I thought this was a bot spam comment about the first clip until you went into detail about their marital life... I concede
Which is why hes her special little man cause he listens to her
It's probably something Carrie hammered into their heads and it's possible that their dad even mentioned it because all things considered he knew that he had not been the best partner. They may have been good together at one point in time and I think they even said as much but eventually they fell apart as a couple because he didn't cherish her and the odd hours of a music career weren't condusive to cherishing her
It’s funny because by on deck, the writing declines a lot in the 3rd season and Zack and Cody BOTH show signs of being in dysfunctional relationships of their own actions. If the show was more adult they’d probably dive into why the characters turned out the way they did
I’ll take it a step further and say their father was the one who probably told them that. I think it would have more meaning coming from him, like a lesson on how they should be better husbands in the future. I don’t see Carrie saying that, but I can picture the dad saying those lines, especially because he’s matured a bit and probably has guilt about the relationship. Telling his children that they shouldn’t forget to cherish the woman they love so they don’t end up like him
The fact that London has a charm bracelet symbolizing each of her past stepmoms and wears in on a shopping date with current stepmom is WILD
The girl clearly has some serious issues. There is an episode in Sweet Life on Deck where it's implied that London's mom abandoned her or at least visits her much less than her father does. Which is really saying something considering he only visited her 3 times in the entire franchise. Poor London.
@@skullton3292I lowkey thought her mom died
@@babyfaceweeb8937I think her mom did die I remember that being implied early on
@@brookeevans0078her mom didn’t die, her mom and dad visit her during the sweet 16 episode. they’re just not seen, the parents were arguing the whole time
Man. Almost like they gave her a character arc.
If you do a retrospective of Suite Life on Deck, PLEASE bring up the injustice of Woody not being in the title sequence!! I always thought of him as a “main” character, but he never gets a title sequence slot. Even Marcus (who’s role left just as fast as it came) got a title sequence spot!! It’s been years and I’m STILL upset.
Yeah, what the hell was up with that? Doc Shaw got main billing for a season and then just...left.
Younger me was SO pissed about that.
He appears in twice as many episodes as Doc Shaw, and like 6 less episodes that Debbie Ryan
Horace Diaz syndrome.
@@TheTekkenguyim dead 😂😂
1:19:48 fun fact ! The actor playing the male version of London is Dante Basco who is the voice of Prince Zuko in Avatar the last airbender and Jake Long in American Dragon. I doubt anyone will care but I fangirled a little when I saw him.
Omg It is !
He was also Ruffio in Hook! I met him at a convention a few years ago, he's super nice!
I thought it was him but then gaslit myself into the opposite since he didn't mention it and in my head there was no way it could be him if he didn't mention it.
@@superrob1500 I was actually kinda suprised he didn’t mention him because Dante Basco has been in a lot of successful stuff
.. no Ruffio love lol
Zack playing three notes on the triangle the entire concert isn't a joke, that's just the reality of being an orchestral percussionist.
running offstage to sleep in between notes is also scarily accurate
In marching band our pit had 3 people playing 12 instruments because there were such long gaps
Thats so real, I play trumpet and unless you’re the principal player you can basically zone out for entire movements
Marching percussion: *playing insane polyrhythms and rudiments at high tempos with few to no breaks, all while marching*
Orchestral percussion: *play a single note for every 80 measures*
@@SplendidCoffee0 there's two percussion sections in marching bands. The marching section and the pit and the pit will sometimes legit play a single note with an instrument for one part then not use that instrument the rest of the show, but the marching percussion is going hard the whole show especially part 3 which is usually the fastest part of the show. Part 2 of any band show may be marching percussion light as it's usually the slow part. But it was a chance for our pit to show off three zylophones and then put two of them to the side for the rest of the show.
Realizing Estabon is only in less than half of all the episodes of Suite Life is incredibly wild. I swear I remember him being a way more prominent character.
it kinda just goes to show how some of these characters stole the show and some are very forgettable. Nia, Skippy, and the nervous girl are throwaways while Esteban, Arwin, and Muriel are stars!
Estabon 😭😭😭
@@_emmanuel_ or the last 3 you listed are mainly in the first season and that's just the season you watched the most or aired the most?
@@TheDCbiz nah i strongly remember watching season 3 and i remember Nia and the nervous girl but they don’t have one memorable scene. you remember their characters but can never say “oh they had that really funny scene”
It's the same with Uncle Kelbo in Wizards. You think they were there a lot but then they were not
Fun fact: Kim Rhodes said that she had a bad habit of cursing a lot on set and that the twins had a swear jar for her.
They would always say to her: "Kim, this is a Disney show!"
Okay legit I love that and think that makes so much sense.
I remember reading a quote somewhere that in response of her swearing they replied once with "We worked with Adam Sandler, we've heard it all"
I recall another Disney show where that happened a lot something I can't exactly talk about for another couple years but it was fun still!
One day I got to make a video on it...
😂😂😂 awww
@@Planag7NDA?
Ashely Tisdale looking like she's fresh off the HSM2 set whenever she's shown in season 3 of Suite Life is so funny
You'd think she'd be tired with all that energy she had to put out in both projects, every time she was in Zack and Cody in season 3, the episodes revolve around her, HSM 2 she's the main character
Alot of work, but she said she loved it all, so if she was ok with it, then we can be too
Ashley Tisdale was booked!
like FRESH tan 😂😂
Phill Lewis is definitely the best actor from disney channel and an incredibly underrated actor all around. It's really a shame he doesn't appear too frequently in other projects because it was so obvious he was giving his all in this silly show for kids
He directs now, maybe because he's older now
I agree, he's as popular as Urkel in my house! I was so excited when I saw him in Scrubs LOL
i remember he was in the phineas and ferb episode where they went to hawaii, he was basically an animated version of mr moseby too
I feel like he could’ve stuck around on other Disney shows that he directed, like he could’ve been a recurring character in Jessie where he worked as the manager of the penthouse or something, his cameo in that show was nice though.
Fun fact, Phill Lewis' 1st Disney Channel role was as the school principal in Lizzie McGuire, surprised Keyan hasn't mentioned that
"A CGI bird flys across a JPEG" one of the greatest phrases ever said.
Hilarious, though a tad inaccurate.
It isn't a JPEG; if you look at the bottom of the scene, you can see people moving.
I think Mr. Mosby caring about things other than the Tipton Hotel is not "out of character", it's expanding who his character is.
I agree lol
there’s a joke in the food critic episode where the photos he’s showing the boys accidentally includes a photo he took of a giraffe at the zoo. it’s so endearing to me to think of moseby enjoying the zoo so much that he takes pictures haha :’)
@@olidon96 that was the first published CZcams video, a day at the zoo or me at the zoo I think is the title name
That's not really what Keyan is talking about
my favorite aspect of that is him being the father figure to London. teaching her to drive and taking her to a father-daughter dance when Mr. Tipton couldn't make it were some of my favorite moments of the two.
I really liked how they had a split family and had a non traditional childhood, cause it was one of the first live actions shows I ever watched and I appreciate the diversity of relationships.
same it was definitely encouraging/made me feel less alone as a kid to see carrie raising the boys by herself
The sad thing about the thing with Brandi (London's stepmom) is that Suite Life on Deck basically confirmed she and Mr. Tipton divorced, proving London right
Yeah, I feel like Suite Life had so many one-off episodes that they never cared to expand on which is really unfortunate. Like, it would've been nice for Brandi to actually stick around and be a mother figure to London every now and then. There's also the Volleydad episode where Carey was going to marry a rich guy, and it would've been nice if they had continued that storyline because there's absolutely no reason why they should've stopped dating just because she wasn't ready for marriage. And don't even get me started on the fact that they wasted Maddie's appearance on Deck on a goofy storyline with a young prince instead of having her fulfill her promise to go with Zack to his prom. I will never forgive the writers for that.
It's also unfortunate that they neglected giving London and Maddie long-term love interests aside from Lance, since most of their one-off relationships never ended on bad terms by the end of the episode, yet it seems like those relationships never happened once we got to the next episode. Suite Life is still an amazing show nonetheless, but I really do feel like Suite Life played it safe too much with some of the storylines that could've changed the direction of the show in a positive way.
Oh London was right. She never stood a chance of being wrong, she knows her dad, and he isn't changing. The point is that Brandi tried and it was nice of her, and London was just being a dick when obviously it wasn't Brandi's fault, and as far as she knew London was going to be part of her life. So London was right, but Mosby was more right.
@@craigyeah1052I think it would have been cool that even though Mr. Tipton and Brandi got divorced she stayed in London's life.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 “you’re dad and I may not have worked out, but I don’t want to be just another addition to your charm bracelet. I want to be apart of your life, I know your father does too, he talks about you wherever he goes, but until he can make that happen for himself, I would appreciate a spot in your life. I don’t want to miss out on the wonderful woman you’re becoming, and I’d love to be another pillar of support for you, even if I’m just a friend you reach out to when you want advice or need a shopping buddy.”
That’s the kind of love and support London needs 💜
She gets it from Mosby, but sometimes Mosby’s hands are tied with the position he is in being a highly regarded employee of Mr.Tipton.
@@craigyeah1052 she was still very right tho cuz Brandi was crossing the line. She’s trying to mother a girl of a man whom she just married. She doesn’t have the right to mother London that way. A lot of kids wouldn’t like that. But I guess it’s why it’s important to show off. Help kids figure out what the best way to handle things is if they’ve got a new stepparent
Multi-hour ‘The Penguins of Madagascar’ video is next! That’s not a joke, strap in besties.
Let’s goooo. Love your channel. I’ve been attempting to keep myself sober so your videos help get my mind off things. Your sense of humor is refreshing.
Fuck yeah
The show? Oh boy!
One of my favorite shows growing up, cant wait to see how it actually holds up lol
Yay!
the super sweet gesture of giving your sister her lost game followed by playing a foghorn sound over a pregnant picture of her gave me such emotional whiplash
True sibling moment
what- what is this from??
@@aileenb5797video lol you missed the part where he talks about the Zack and Cody game
A pregnancy at 15 is an insane thing to put out into the internet because of Zac & Cody
@@Crabgar keyan has mentioned it as a joke before this lol
I miss Muriel, I guess her “I’m not cleaning that up” catchphrase would get old but she was SO funny in season 1
Well Zack stopped calling Maddie “Sweet Thang” by Season 2.
@@John-Doe-Yo I was honestly shocked when he said she never showed up after season 1, I remember her showing up all the time. I think they reran season 1 more than any other episodes though, because I remembered basically every episode from the season 1 video and have no memory of a lot of the episodes from this video, so that might be why Muriel sticks out so much.
She would crack me up as kid so I was pretty annoyed when she was no longer in the show. :(
As a janitor, I frequently quote it. One of these days my supervisor is gonna overhear me and I'm gonna have to teach her about Suite Life.
Selena Gomez admitted that she actually had a huge crush on Cole Sprouse and was super disappointed that she was told to kiss his brother instead of him.
Cole was totally the hotter twin back in the day. I had a huge crush on him in middle school lol
@@tegantalks9612I so agree with that
As an archivist and historian within Boston I can attest that Boston has deep rooted black history that is only recently being given the attention it deserves and having a light shine on it. The fact this series has an episode that respectfully touches on some of these issues with black erasure in history, is fascinating to see. Thanks for the video!
2:30:40 - My favorite thing about that Hannah Montana "Kids like you" segment is them pretending that Jason Earles wasn't a full grown 30 year old man 🤣😂
Frrr
He was the same age as Kim Rhodes back then lmao
I love how HSM exists in this universe and every actor that's guest starred who played a part in it just happens to have a celebrity look-alike in the world
It’s not too strange when you think of how many doppelgängers of Danny Gonzalez there are.
Pretty sure the Mr. Moseby getting an autograph 'for his niece' joke was supposed to be that he actually wanted to get the autographs for himself, but didn't want to admit that he wanted them.
I was hoping someone else pointed it out tbh.
3:27:45 back in middle school our PE teacher was called Coach Cantwell. obviously we all called him Can't Coachwell.
2:49:54 weirdly you don’t need to be hot to tan, since Antarctica is covered with snow the sun reflects off it very easily and can cause you to tan if your skin is visible
That would explain why Inuit people and other people indigenous to snowy lands tend to have darker skin tones!
With London being in the same grade as Zack and Cody in Suite Life on Deck. It can easily be assumed that due to London being being dumber than a stack of bricks, plus the mention of her constantly skipping school, and getting kicked out of every private school in Boston, she got held back several times.
It’s crazy that people actually shipped London with any of the younger characters on the show cuz she’s clearly mentally declining and is at most in her early 20s by the final season.
Isn’t she supposed to be the relatively same age as Maddie, who is just 3yrs older than the twins?
No one bats an eye when Maddie was crushing on someone 3yrs older than her, she was actually encouraged to go for it. Idk it’s always hard to say with TV/Movie relationships because the actors tend to be older than the characters they depict, and Brenda Song was definitely older than London was supposed to be.
12yr old and 15yr old is inappropriate, but 16yr old and 19yr old isn’t *as* bad depending on the people and their maturity. A 3yr age gap in teen-young adult relationships isn’t uncommon.
This is not me saying I ship London with any younger characters, I didn’t really watch Suite Life On Deck so I have no idea how she interacted with other characters or how old she and other characters appeared. I honestly think it’s weird they kind of shoe horned her character into the spin-off that way. They could have given her some character growth and had her learning more about the Tipton businesses, finally coming to terms with that fact that she needs to start taking some responsibility and learning to support herself to an extent. And the boys could help her execute some unorthodox ideas to promote business she has that may or may not work out.
@MaryLoveJane well Maddy is 16 vs the boys who were 12-13.
@@katc2040 the episode I’m referring to clearly states that there is a 3yr age difference between Zack and Maddie, and a 3yr age difference between Maddie and the boy she has a crush on. That is why Zack thinks Maddie is talking about him when he overhears Maddie talking to the boys’ mom about her crush.
We see London getting her driver’s permit during the series, confirming she is a similar age to Maddie.
@@MaryLoveJane London is 6 months older than Maddie which at most could make her closer to 4 years older than the boys…
maddie being in antarctica is a bit wild but she was shown to be a big environmentalist earlier on in the series, so it's still pretty in-character
Cool idea
my problem with it is how could she afford to go to antarctica??
@@ItzHayley22 i'm not entirely sure but wasn't her temporary absence from the show was because Ashley Tisdale was working on High School Musical at the time?
@@ItzHayley22I mean... There are many programs that get you out in the field like that expense paid. But they don't really get anything fancy. Like helpers in places like Africa, they will look for anyone trained or want to be trained in the medical field to help out with giving vaccines, help treat sick children, blood work etc. Mind you, most of the helpers will pitch a tent and sleep right there in the Villages so it's honestly free experience. I would want to do that but I am too emotional for that kind of work. 😅
At least we can take comfort in the fact Carrie definitely gets her own room after Zack and Cody leave for the SS Tipton 😂
The girl in the first high school episode isn’t actually Danielle Panabaker, it’s her young sister Kay Panabaker who was also in Phil of the Future.
Their genes are so strong, pictures of the two of them together almost look like twins if not for their age difference. I used to mix them up constantly before I got older.
I wish Max, Tapeworm and Lance had a proper send-off like Bob, Barbara, Jessica and Janice. I also would've loved to see Lance show up On Deck as a full circle ⭕ moment for his obsession with water!
is lance not the guy london has a crush on in the volleydad episode?
jk just looked closer and i dont think he is
@@jordanmarshall6628no, Lance is the pool boy at the Tipton. He’s the one who is obsessed with fish and water. He does date London tho in season 3
Max was one of my favorite characters. I'm sad she just stopped being part of the friend group with no explanation. Especially seeing as tomboys were always my favorite as a kid.
I actually remember Max and (less so) Tapeworm.
Part 2 came significantly quicker than I expected holy cow
Si
Agree
I think that the 2 parts were already done at around the time part 1 released, it's just that waiting to release part 2 for a couple weeks allows the video to better perform so as not to overload your audience
@@aceproductions43 editing takes a while
I’m waiting for the suite life on deck video now
The small Dijon exchange at 3:31:00 is peak dialogue
"Why are you afraid of flavor?" absolutely kills me
2:49:47 antarctica could actually be a very good place for tanning. The reason tanning happens is because your skin is trying to protect itself against the sun, and clear days with snow on the ground are actually where you get the most UV radiation, because you're being hit by the sunlight directly hitting you, and reflecting off of the snow, which is why it's really important to wear sunscreen especially on snowy days.
Kumiko Mori is definitely famous because she has her own Bulbapedia page. That's certified celebrity status right there ✅
As we all know, all of Reality revolves around the one true god which is Pikachu meaning if Kumiko Mori has a Bulbapedia page she's extremely famous.
Oh is that lady who did the theme song for the Entei movie.
@@sparktaylor8489everyone knows the true god is bidoof. What kind of fake prophecy is this?
According to the Bulbapedia page, she killed the director of a bank in Tokyo after he annoyed her at the nearby hotel room next to her that he died in on the same night.
@@son193 she *might* have killed him. That was never confirmed (as far as I know)
The cheers in Loosely Ballroom weren't for Rip Taylor. They were for the nurse, played by Cheryl Burke who is a professional ballroom dancer and a Dancing With the Stars pro. Back then that show (DWTS) was breaking audience records and it's an ABC (Disney) show. So the whole thing made sense.
Esteban's rival was also a DWTS pro named Louis Van Amstel. Esteban's partner who left too iirc.
Source: me. I watched a lot of DWTS growing up!
I just watched the part, I think the canned applause was for both and I think Rip Taylor is more of an easter egg since he's a gay icon the staff added and Cheryl Burke is so disguised here you can barely tell it's her, Rip Taylor is completely himself though so maybe they included Cheryl Burke so Disney wouldn't freak out on a gay man back then on a kids show appearing alone. It was probably marketed as guest star Cheryl Burke too in the commercial just to hide Rip Taylor and I know I'm reading too much into this but this is how television worked back then and to a much lesser extent now
Update: Saw the promo for this episode, neither one of them was shown
@@drebone1986I used to see Rip Taylor on a few things in the 90s. He always played “himself” lmao
Now I feel bad because I genuinely thought it was for Rip Taylor since I watched a bunch of Jackass at the time 😭
@@drebone1986 No? I distinctly remember promotions for this episode stating that Cheryl Burke was a guest star for this episode. Disney made multiple promos for each new episode especially for this time so I don't doubt you saw a different promo from one I remembered as a child. The promo shows Cheryl wearing the dress in the climax of the episode. I even remember the Disney announcer saying "Featuring Cheryl Burke from Dancing with the Stars" and forcing my mom to watch this episode with me because she loved Dancing with the Stars at the time.
@@maddiemcnugget1076 cool I'm glad I was right even just guessing 😂 I saw a promo on CZcams not the actual episode and promos back then so I'm glad you confirmed my theory
For the ballroom episode, some of the side characters (the nurse aka Cheryl Burke) were actually pro dancers from Dancing with the Stars. I think it was for a crossover of some sort to promote the show in its early years
HOW DID I NEVER RECOGNIZE THAT WAS CHERYL BURKE OMG
I am ridiculously excited for On Deck dude this was so good. Unlocked so many lost memories
That "boys and girls" bumper is super bizarre when you realize Jason Earles was 30 in that clip.
Right?! Wasn't he married to or not yet?
@@TheDCbiz Oh my god he was
I was just saying that this morning!
That bumper was the first time I've ever noticed how much older he looks than the others. Probably because he seems so awkward and uncomfortable pretending to think like a teenager talking about crushes
haha you can feel him trying to be more distant in how he phrased things. Using past tense or general statements and stuff. In any other situation we would call the cops on a 30 year old pretending to be a teenager
1:10:17 - I think what works is that the jokes aren’t at the expense of those in wheelchairs it’s making fun of the people who are trying too hard or end up accidentally insensitive
It is very true to life and honestly really fucking funny XD
As a wheelchair user I agree, like there are so many funny jokes that you can make that don’t reduce the person in the chair to a punchline and that episode did a great job doing that
@@micah4847amen, especially if we're the ones telling the jokes - we're really funny!
How is your comment older than the vid ?
@@rickib7075 probably a patreon subscriber, they can get the video earlier
14:53 Getting vibe checked by hearing "Zoboomafoo" used as a verb on a Zack & Cody retrospective was the last thing I expected on a Zack & Cody retrospective
I was thinking this nonstop during the first part, but I absolutely adore all of Maddie and London's hairstyles throughout the run of the show
I know i desperately want moderngurlz or mina le to do an analysis video of their styles n outfits n find out who was styling them!!!
@@no.1appastan it would be a dream come true lol maddie and londons costuming was distractingly good (hell even carrie too, they were putting her in some stunning dresses)
Fun fact: Robert Torti (the guy who plays Kurt) was on Broadway for the 1987 production of Starlight Express, that musical about the trains where all the actors were on roller skates and they built that giant roller derby race course. He originated the role of Greaseball for Broadway and got nominated for a Tony. I think that’s kind of a funny coincidence for that one episode of Suite Life on Deck where they have Kurt and Carey do a performance together and he’s dressed as a shopping cart and on roller skates for it.
I watched that episodes years before I learned that he was in Starlight Express and it was such a lightbulb “ooooohhhhhh” moment when I put it together that that’s what they were parodying
I'm glad Maddie is in the finale and that Muriel is back for the finale. I think I may have seen that episode but didn't know it was the finale. I think the continuity errors in it are forgivable. the characters probably just have bad memory
2:21:26 Its incredible how well the actor expressed every single thought that happened back to back upon learning that Zack had cloned his master room key.
Phil Lewis was the king of facial expressions on this show. Genuinely the peak of sitcom acting
34:54 So let me get this straight. Zack stood in the elevator and went down 31 floors while sleep walking or he walked down all those stairs.
Yes
That checks out
If its muscle memory? Then it'd kind of work? I have a brother who could walk down the stairs while asleep, although it's very slow
i used to sleep walk as a kid, one of the things my parents said i did a lot and i even woke up in the middle of is just walking up and down the stairs repeatedly
Some people drive while sleepwalking so it's not really that crazy.
The episode where Zack and Cody turn into superheroes has always been a personal favorite of mine! It shows how silly and goofy the comedy and characters are.
Same still to this day one of my favs eps. I rewatched last year and was surprised it still holds up well. It's a great character ep playing with a campy 1950's classic superhero plot. But shows how great characters and surprisingly great comedic writing for a show expected to be watched by only a few hundred thousand children. Watching how much talent and comedic chops are put in children's content is great. Kids deserve great content too
I remember it took me so long to get the Brain Man joke when Arwin "The Engineer" called out that Cody's superhero initials were BM and why Cody got all embarrassed.
@@HoV326 What's the joke? I still don't understood it.
@giovanniorellana2200 BM also stands for "bowel movement", which is another word for poop. So it was basically just a poop joke that went over our heads
I spent my entire life believing it was a what if, threehouse of horror style episode. Is it canon?
"Yay us, we're gonna help the Hungarians"
she's a little confused but she's got the spirit
I'd laugh so hard when London said 'Hungarians'.
3:41:30 From what i remember when it came out, they switched series because Kim Rhoades got pregnant and didnt want to keep filming while raising a child, so they made a premise that made sense for the mom not being around. You can see in the On Deck pilot that they cover the mom's pregnant stomach up with clothes and props too.
I really love how the dubbed over 'THEY!' makes everything sound more exciting when you talk about Alyson
i noticed this too - too bad there's a stray "she" at 45:41 (still a good video)
@@2011supergamer weird little guy
@@2011supergamerweird little guy
@@2011supergamerweird little guy 🤢
@@2011supergameryou sound very sad
I swear a lot of these B-plots have stuck in my head more than the A-plots. The stage kiss stuff was definitely familiar but London redoing the feng shui of the Tipton pops into my head almost any time rearranging a room comes up.
Tragically, this Black History episode is so far the first that I have no recollection of. I guess they didn't run it often.
They did used to have one or two serious cultural episodes in some of their sitcoms. That's So Raven has one where she's working with a straight up racist boss.
that's so raven also had a pretty good body image issue as well
I feel like Disney did those 2 episodes of Zack amd Cody amd that's so raven and aired them during black history month
@@jasminecurry5732yea the that’s so Raven episodes about race are remembered very well because generally nobody thinks of Zack and Cody when they hear the words “black history” but I do remember Disney rerunning that episode in A February
@@getmeouttahere1209 why'd they stop making those kinds of eps in later series like wizards, Jonas, Jessie etc?
@@TheDCbiz wizards was a satire of Harry Potter so it never took politics or social issues as seriously as other kids shows would’ve. Wizards however did do episodes about broken families but they was only done to serve the elements of who will be the family wizard. Meanwhile Jessie didn’t take anything seriously for majority of its run, it was just there to make kids laugh. But Austin and Ally did an episode on bullying, Liv and Maddie did episodes on sexism, KC Undercover didn’t really do an episode on racism but the show had lingering elements of commentary that was usually played for jokes etc.. I guess for the 2010s, disney channel became strictly entertainment aside from a few instances.
I gotta tell ya, I got so used to seeing shows like Victorious, where the characters are barely friends and the whole show feels so mean-spirited and borderline inappropriate at various points, but I forgot that barring a couple of missteps that this show was very funny and wasn't afraid to be genuine with its characters.
I like how even characters that the target audience initially aren't meant to like like Mr. Moseby are given a lot of depth and it becomes pretty obvious that he cares about the twins.
The three PSA episodes are genuinely well-intentioned and their execution is pretty good for a Disney sitcom from the mid-2000's.
it's the fact that you just never explained drew sealy's appearance as the grandson; he's basically the male singing voice of disney for the early 2000's! he's who sings for troy bolton in 1 & 2 high school musical & also starred as troy bulton in the live high school musical tour!
This video made me actually curious on if Kumiko Mori was actually someone popular in Japan only to find out she did some stuff for the Pokemon movies back in the days. Honestly such a weird pick for a guest star.
Perfectly weird pick for a perfectly weird show 😅
@froggod4504 She didn't voice Pikachu, it's Ikue Otani.
Y’know, I have watched this entire Zach and Cody retrospective series and the only thing I have learned is that it’s a right of passage that every prominent child actor from the 2000’s had to be a guest star on this show.
Suite Life is a sitcom where the main cast is comprised of so many intelligent, comedic actors. It’s one thing to have a great script but it’s another to cast an actor whose portrayal of a character transcends the writing. Like, Phil Lewis’ impeccable performance as Mr. Moseby has yet to be matched by any other Disney Channel actor following his departure.
Lewis’ performance is so good that people conveniently bypass his DUI conviction. It’s almost as if… criminals are humans just like us who make mistakes and the have potential to contribute something meaningful to the world?
I’m sure Isabel (the woman who died thanks to his DUI) could’ve also contributed something meaningful to the world had her life not been taken by that cute little mistake.
@BC33714 No one is acting like it was a cute little mistake. Drinking and driving is abhorrent behavior, but you're not going to help anyone by denying that the man served his sentence and bettered himself from it. Rehabilitation should be respected.
@@AlexM-ky8onExactly. He was 24, it was 1991 and he served prison time for it. It's not like he got off for it and then acted like he did nothing like some celebrities do after vehicular homicide (Caitlyn Jenner for example)
I just realized Jason Earles was at least 29 years old when filming this segment talking about girls while the others were 14-16 years old...
"london when i was your age..."
"what like 20 minutes ago?"
damn London kinda went hard with that line
the woman in charge of the SS Tipton in that episode is Nicole Sullivan, who voiced Shego in Kim Possible and Marlene in Penguins of Madagascar. (and like a billion other things) I think I remember being confused she wasn't in Suite Life on Deck
Oh, I’m surprised I didn’t even catch that! I’m literally making a Penguins of Madagascar video *right now* where I mention and show her several times.
@@KeyanCarlile very nice!! a bunch of people who worked on kim possible went to work on penguins of madagascar too. the main producers and a few voice actors. pretty neat
Before you finish your Suite Life on Deck video, I should let you know they had a crossover with I'm in the Band. The episode is not listed under Suite Life's episode list, but instead on I'm in the Band's. It's easy to miss for that reason.
Because it's an I'm In The Band episode, not On Deck but I still would love him to review it anyway
2:31:21 Jason Earles talking about how he doesn't understand girls, when he was literally 30 at the time lol
I need people to know that the second DS game Circle of Spies ends with the twins infiltrating the St Mark and the final boss is Ilsa piloting a giant robot apparently built by Arwin's evil twin brother Darwin who wears an eyepatch over his glasses
That sounds made up but I fully believe you LMAO
Thank you so much for this information. What a wild ride!
Unhinged lmaooo
Zack and Cody foreshadowing the quadruple of Riverdale is kinda funny
One of those characters is also played by Cole Sprouse
I’d argue that Millicent has one important line-in the team building episode when she does an impression of Nia and says “I’m Nina and I’ll crush you like a grape!” Which has lived in my head rent free since I was 6
1:00:34 London reading Pride and Prejudice is the most unbelievable thing in that episode.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe there’s a thing in which Disney’s actors didn’t get paid fully until like 3/4 seasons of a show. So that’s why every one of these shows’ title changes to something new (I.e. bionic island).
I think it was that they didn't want to raise the actors pay with a 4th season, so they made the spin offs so the pay could stay relatively the same
I remember Hannah Montana and Liv & Maddie changing their titles too for their fourth seasons.
I think the reason was that their contracts were always for 3 seasons (because of the law or something like that, or because of network regulations or because they were children) and when their show was successful and the network wanted to renew they had to get new contracts, in which they'd have to get paid more because the show is successful/it's been airing for a while and they're entitled to more pay/popular etc. But if the network renewed the show under a new name and had it be basically the same show with the cast playing the same characters, just under a different showname, they could get away with paying them more because they'd say "see guys you're staring in a completely new show and we can't afford to pay you as much"
David and Jennifer talk about that in their wizards of waverly place podcast
Is that why Sonny with a Chance became So Random? Or is that because Demi left?
How do you lose a woman has stuck with me for years. This show really was the goat.
Honestly, going through this retrospective, I cried twice. Completely out of nowhere. Man, I forgot how much I loved this show.
I noticed multiple actors/actresses that starred as minor characters in this show that also starred in other shows and I wanted to point them out because why not. So here they are!
1:51:00 - Jaelin Palmer as Leah: Starred in Season 1 Episode 23 of Hannah Montana, “Schooly Bully” as “The Cracker”
2:27:53 - Raini Rodriguez: Starred as a main character in Disney Channel’s Austin & Ally as Trish
2:34:34 - Samantha Droke as Wanda: Starred in Princess Protection program as popular girl and school bully Brooke and played Sarah in 2 episodes of Cory in the House
2:37:35 that’s actually Kay Panabaker, Danielle’s sister who stopped acting and is a zoologist having finished school at a young age because she’s a genius.
WHOAH, really?! They look IDENTICAL, that's so crazy.
@KeyanCarlile if you ever do DCOMS, the Panabaker sisters had their own called "Read It and Weep" ❤
OMG. I just read that she graduated high school at 13 and finished her undergrad at 17.
@@ar.iaofficial back in the day when I watched Read it and Weep I used to think they were the same actress playing two different characters (because Kay's character is basically Danielle's alter ego, for anyone who hasn't seen Read it and Weep so it would have made sense to cast the same actress for both roles, but she also looked slighly older and more mature)
@@ar.iaofficial Kay was also in the 1st season of Phil Of the Future
1:23:33 fun fact: anyone on set, actors, directors, sound people, camera people, even parents can say cut if there's something wrong. When I did film I said cut as a lighting person because I was worried that a light was not secure. Parents of under age talent do in fact have the right to call cut because there could be a contract violation, a moral line being crossed, a concern about a way a director is speaking to talent or a way adult talent is interacting with underage talent and many parents of underage actors are unaware that they have the right to voice concerns. In real life if that ever happened that would be a lawsuit, but of course this is TV and it's plot so the director playing himself is playing a game version of himself that is acting more domineering than I'm sure he is in real life.
1:30:12 when Esteban gets married in The Suite Life on Deck, Cody mentions getting Guinea pigs for the reception and my Peruvian mother has told me about her relatives eating it while in Peru. So I like that his Peruvian storyline is carried on into the later series.
3:34:26 the way he said "for my niece" made me instantly assumed he was lying and wanted the autographs for himself, but didn't want to admit it! 😂
Super excited for the On Deck video!
Re: “Is that a normal interaction for divorced parents” between Carey and Kurt - I think the answer is yes. A lot of divorced co parents still consider one another partners in parenting and greet one another in familiar ways. I’ve seen exes greet with cheek kisses like that, it’s like a family thing.
That Midsummer episode is exactly what Shakespeare would have wanted.
It’s Kay Panabaker, her younger sister, not Danielle
Just wanted to let you know that every time I fall asleep while watching CZcams, this video is always the one that's playing when I wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night. I don't know why CZcams keeps trying to make me watch this video but I've probably 'watched' it while sleeping at least ten times
2:30:47 I love how they included Jason Earles in this promo like the man wasn’t 29 when Hannah Montana started
Your sisters reaction to realizing that you get her the DS game she lost was actually so wholesome and my favorite part of the vides
That’s what I thought too!! That was so sweet especially Kayla remembering everything!
1:03:38 Oh my god, I remember this episode so well! I remember finding the chef's comment about his blood freaking me out so badly because I was an extremely literal child (I'm probably at least a little autistic, lol). I also remember the portrayal of Maddy and London's body dysmorphia sticking with me for YEARS as I would later succumb to these same thought patterns myself and watching this episode again in the height of my disorder really helped snap me out of those thoughts and get onto the path of recovery, even if their recovery was validation from two random guys. Something about the "exaggeration" (not the most accurate word, but I'm sleepy rn) of their actions and thoughts made me realize how extreme my own thoughts were and how poorly I was treating myself.
Anyway, sorry for the paragraph! I really liked your video!
I love that "maybe you know her," joke because it's such an old and frustrating disability misconception where everyone assumes people with the same condition all know each other. It was interesting that there were some unique things they did, although still some things didn't age as well as they could have.
i’m pretty sure if those 3 positive message episodes were released today people would immediately say it’s "too woke" and complain about suite life trying to push an "sjw agenda"
This was just posted how was this 5 days ago 😦
No if Zack and Cody would be remake today, London and Maddie would both end up dating each other.
@@brantjustilian3791I don't think so, that's more than token representation, too much for Disney but they should
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1:38:10
I recall in a Peanutbuttergamer video that he twote at Cole Sprouse asking for help beating that DS game and Cole replied "The way to beat that game is to throw it in the garbage" meaning she actually beat the game.
I was hoping he'd mention that so much but I guess it's not as common knowledge as I thought it was
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I get that you can't list everything in every video, but one set of notable side character actors you missed this time is S3 Ep7. The birthday girl is Meaghan Martin, future main cast member in Camp Rock 1/2, and one of the guests is Raini Rodriguez, future main cast member of Austin and Ally. Interesting that 2 people got into other disney work so much later after the same episode.
Carey teaching zack and cody life lessons by telling them stories of her past boyfriends was weird and cool at the same time you can tell kim Rhodes does an excellent job portraying a stereotypical loving mom
she's genuinely really good at acting, her role in Supernatural is one of the best things from the show imo
1:09:15 "Wheelchair-user" is generally the preferred term.
Most wheelchair users generally dislike the phrase "wheelchair-bound" as it implies it as a negative thing. In reality, wheelchairs are a hugely important aid that allow people to move around and live more fulfilling lives when they otherwise might be unable to.
2:31:21 that is adult jason earles admitting he, a man about thirty two years of age, has no rizz and does "not understand anything about girls"
*a grown, *married* adult man
keyan if it makes you feel any better, I've never noticed or had any issue with you looking into the camera lens or not looking into the lens. it's never affected my enjoyment of your videos so I don't have a preference at all, you're still so funny and your content is so well made that I personally don't feel like it matters!
One of my favorite things that you do is the old bumpers #nostalgia
AH yes very insightful; you are indeed not Black.
Actually that episode when I was a kid was kind of stunning to me because I was raised that adults were never wrong, and I finally got a taste of sweet, sweet rebellion against adults when I was a kid. Plus it also cemented a love for history so it was pretty cool.
2:05:15. Honestly I'd say Arwin telling Zack not to talk to him before walking off is mature. If he were being immature he'd tell Zack off for screwing him over. Instead he takes the blame for something that isn't his fault and, rightfully upset tells Zack to leave him alone before walking off.
Yeah, that definitely felt like a mature way to handle that situation.
Plus Zack was like a Mordecai and Rigby level of lazy, so it’s fair for Arwin to assume Zack just doesn’t care
Its funny how Maddie ends up with Travis who is played by Drew Seely and he voice Troy's singing parts in the first HSM which Sharpay was pining for
16:10 im pretty sure ”volleydad” is a play on ”soccer mum”
Keyan doesn't have anyone overseeing these scripts for him? sometimes he really doesn't pick up on some obvious shit, which is okay but kinda telling.
@@francyflynn gonna be real w u- i read the script when i was editing and tried to figure out the pun myself and i still didn't catch it lmao, i think it's just bc the concept of a "sport parent" isn't really brought up in the episode and so it really does just seem like they were like "volley ball and dad are in this episode so it is called volleydad"
Something about these intense retrospectives always makes me feel like I just finished a Lord of the Rings level journey, saying goodbye to old friends.
While you're on the subject of who is and isn't a main character, I hope that, when you cover On Deck, you mention how Woody should've been a main character by all accounts. He's in most episodes and has prominent roles in a good chunk of them. I counted, and across the entire show, he appears in only 7 fewer episodes than Mr. Moseby, and he actually appears in more Season 3 episodes than both Mr. Moseby and Bailey. It's especially egregious when Doc Shaw was credited as a main cast member as soon as his character, Marcus, was introduced, despite only being on the show for around half a season, while Woody was around the entire time and Matthew Timmons was only ever a "guest star".
Basically like Horace on Mighty Med.
This happens in show business all the time.
Hiring someone as a guest star means that payment and scheduling is handled on an Episode by Episode basis.
Whereas a Season Regular is expected to be featured in and paid for every episode of the Season.
And Producers will do ANYTHING to cut costs or make things easier for themselves.
Also this was the case with Lab Rats: Douglas was just as much a main character by the final two seasons as Donald was. Schwoz on Henry Danger was very much a main character from the beginning despite never being credited as one until the final season. Dr. Colosso on the Thundermans was never officially credited as something other than a “voice” in the closing credits. Principal Mitchell on Kirby Buckets was as much of a main character as Belinda was for the second and third seasons. Bunny and Ruthless on Game Shakers appear in pretty much every episode of that show.
just a wild guess here but i’m assuming they made doc a main character since he was already a main character on house of payne at the same time
I was always so pissed as a kid that Marcus was a main character and Woody wasn't
Just now realized that "London Tipton" is a reference to "Paris Hilton"
Those 2 mentions in the SLOD were part of Zack's dreams as well. Dude had some crazy dreams.
Before they greenlit The Suite Life on Deck, Disney Channel actually experimented with giving Arwin his own spin off.
It would have been about him moving in with his sister and niece, played by Selena Gomez.
You can actually find clips of the pilot online.
I'm so glad they didn't go along with this one. I always found Arwin annoying.
2:47:45 Mosby knows about the dungeon but gaslights Lomdon into thinking there isn't one to stop from actually using it
“no really im hungry mommy” made me do an actual spit take
That classroom set in the episode with Moseby’s grandma is the one from that’s so Raven.
1:26:41 I'm starting to understand why Disney was always accusing Dan Schneider of stealing jokes and plots from their shows to put into his, because the whole "Maddie and London are stunt doubles" thing is nearly identical to a gag in Victorious where Tori "i think we all sing" Vega accidentally gets herself cast as a stunt double. She has to do a stunt fall from a high balcony and the set looks nearly identical to the one in Z&C, and they even make the same joke about there being a blood stain on the ground from precious stunt actors. Victorious did the gag about 4 years after Z&C.
Oh really? I did not know that.
You know I remember watching that and it reminded me of the z&c plot. Especially the dry blood bit.
Ironically Nickelodeon did a spoof on Sonny with a Chance as they saw it as an iCarly ripoff when in reality I think that's where they got the idea for Victorious as those shows are much more similar to each other
Also the blood stain joke seemed to be on the same set where an actual stunt actor was heavily injured in real life in iCarly when gibby jumps off a ladder
@@aceproductions43 One of the producers for Sonny with a Chance was actually Brian Robbins, who co-created All That and was a frequent collaborator with Dan Schneider.
He’s now the CEO and President of Paramount and Nickelodeon.