I absolutely love you for this !!! I’ve gotten rid of more effects units than I can count but I REFUSED/REFUSE to get rid of this one! It’s one of two I have left after over a dozen in the last 3years and boy does this series make me more than happy!!!!
Qith the Opus 3 I used to use three analog effects. I would break the signal into three parallel signals at one of the stereo outputs, usually the righ while leaving the left side dry. I would feed each of the wet signals into a different box: A DOD 640 flanger, one into an Electro Harmonix Clone Theory set to Chorus and the lest into an EH Bad Stone variable fazer (spelling so it did not get confused with STAR TREK), each of which I could sdt differently, so the sound was in parallel, then re-join the sounds in a DOD passive mixer. I could adjust the dry/wet mix with the sterio sliders on each section. I used this to simulate a 3 oscillator synthesizer
When you showoff the spring reverb, can you make sure to flick and tap the spring while you're playing? Really interested in how it sounds with the flanger on with a square wave feeding it.. Thanks dude!
I dunno, my Arp 2600 had a Spring Reverb effect that was so good that it worked even when the main case was unplugged. Just bumping it would bring out the tasty, springy goodness within. ;)
Wish the delay were BBD and had an LFO of its own, but still, this looks so great. I dunno why it's taken so long for someone to put together an effects unit like this.
Rad sounding effect box. Will definitely buy one when it comes out. Also a great review! Please consider a noise gate for your microphone for the parts where you are not speaking. This will help you remove any unwanted noise (breathing sounds) so that the audio from the product stays crisp. Anyway, thanks for the great video! :)
I don't know why and I couldn't specify a specific track but when you first started turning up the feedback I started to get Tears for Fears "The Hurting" vibes.
Some people may talk shit about the Alpha Juno series (hopefully that's decreasing - it seems like it), but they have some cool features, and do sound good. I'm glad I snagged my AJ2 several years ago before prices for vintage synths (even the inexpensive ones) went up even more. I think I paid like $250. Of course I do get what you mean, though, Marc; I wasn't referring to your comments in the video. It's not a glorious VCO poly for sure. Glad to see you're reviewing the hypnosis, good idea! And good choice of synth - again, you are right by it being helped more than some others [Sorry for semi-long comment]
I do bash the Roland DCO polys, but my bashing is more about having people respond to their sound more realistically... because there is a TREMENDOUS amount of hype over them that has developed in the last decade and a half or so. The truth is, they have their place, and they have a distinctive and useful sound. But there is nothing "warm" about them, and they were never a "classic polysynth." The were the synths that bands got in the early 80s when they couldn't afford a truly classic polysynth. :D
@Stephen Anthony To be honest, I think the AJ can be at least a little warm - it certainly has an analog character (and it is an analog synth, just with DCOs, after all, heh). Even some hybrids, like the DW-8000, can get decently warm. You wanna talk about thin and sterile? JP 8000 is a pretty good example, haha. The AJ is awesome in comparison. I agree about the filter, I've always thought it was pretty nice sounding. And the pulse saws were a great inclusion Edit: But to be clear, I certainly agree, DCOs just aren't going to be very warm at all. The warm/analog character I'm referring to likely comes from the VCFs and VCAs, of course
Not surprisingly the Hypnosis is cool and sounds great, but good job on the video opening graphics as well...nice and nicely fitting for the piece of gear. Also glad they got you to do this...I'm guessing Eric passed you the one he had at NAMM.
@@Psychlist1972 Like a lot of stuff nowadays, might not have been so special in 1984, but it definitely scratches the 2019 itch. I did mention to them if retro was what they were going for, this (the look) nailed it, and then I showed the a couple pix of some old ART effects boxes as well...had a similar color scheme, but with one-fifth the "cool factor" (and the ART boxes were from the 90s). Looking forward to using it with the Abyss.
It sounds nice, but in comparison to something like an Eventide H9 I'm not totally convinced for the money. I saw the retail price is about AUD790 in my country (Australia) and the H9 is anywhere between AUD750 and 850 and on the Eventide you get all the same nice chorus/flange, delay etc, plus a bunch of other effects *and* MIDI control. It would need to be about 60% of the price it retails for to get me sufficiently interested in it. It's a cool box though.
yeah but you cant edit the h9 in realtime like this, or maybe you can with midi? i would be curious to know, the h9 sounds amazing and im struck between the two
@@gts1067 You can with the app and the controls do offer some real time editing capabilities, though as you say not with the full range of parameters that this unit has.
@@MrBothandNether That's correct. The analogue vs digital aspect is not really an issue for me -- I go with whatever sounds best and has the maximum flexibility.
@@adam872 I am a big fan of both realms, but the warmth and unique symbiosis is a trade-off for hundreds more modeled effects, We own eventide and the strymons,My wife loves it..but my workflow avoids the option overload, atm. Also, there is no way I am putting on the ground and stepping on it 🤡
I thimk the sound you chose doesn't favor the demonstration. The technical principle of a chorus is to have two signal slitely out-of.phase. This can be recreate on a synth in detuning one of the oscillators(hint for all sound designers). The problem is that it's exactly how you created your first original sound (or maybe you used a sound that already have chorus on it, as the alpha juno 1 has only one oscillator per voice). So basically you created a chorus effect on your synth and then you try to add a chorus effect. A flanger is a chorus with a LFO modulating the phase or frequency difference. As long as you have two different oscillators and a LFO, chorus and flanger are the two easiest effect to reproduce natively on an analog synth. I think this demosntration would have been much more efficient if you had chosen an original sound that doesn't have a detuned oscillator. Maybe it's a technical issue, as you stated you were using the mono output, so you won't hear the built-in chorus effect, but from the beginning, the sound I have in my headphone is stereo.
denis castaings That’s some nice science you’re dropping there, but I assume most viewers of this video are rather interested in hearing the Hypnosis effect in real life musical scenarios. Adding chorus to an analog pad is absolutely one of them.
Dacci,I'm totally agree with you. I was just stating that in order to illustrate this, he should have used a pad sound that doesn't initially has chorus in it. I wasn't trying to show any science. This trick of detuning the oscillator, so creating this chorus effect, is what I use with my monophonic synth to create strings and pads sounds. It's also how string synths used to work.
The Alpha Juno 1 has a chorus, and it's frequently implemented in the sounds because the DCOs are so frigid. I made sure to turn the chorus off on this particular patch, and I think I even pointed that out. The sound you're hearing could be PWM modulation or something else, but it's not chorus. And the moment where the Hypnosis chorus is added should portray a distinctly different sound. Later in the demonstration, I was less concerned about whether the relatively-tame Alpha Juno chorus was engaged or not for the reason that Dacci Pucci pointed out.
A flanger is a delay with short (typical) delay times ranging from 0.5 to 5 ms. A chorus is a delay effect too, with longer (typical) delay time ranging from 5 to 30 ms. In both cases, mixing the time modulated signal, back with the dry, gives the audible sweeps and shifts, in the frequency domain. Arguably the max flanger time and lower chorus time, can overlap but saying that "The technical principle of a chorus is to have two signal slitely out-of.phase", is not taking into account the longer delay times involved with chorus that makes the signal sound "doubled", hence the chorus name.
alpha juno is a good choice, roland DCOs aren't that terrible though ;). A Yamaha FM IMO would be a great way to demonstrate this product as well. I really want one of these though...
@@SPAZZOID100 I dunno, the kit is 999$. Considering it's a full replica of a CS80, I think that's pretty cheap, not that I could afford it currently, but 1k for a CS80...
@@oraz. I believe that this kit only includes the basics, like pcb boards and some hard to source components. But you have to source the rest yourself, including a bunch of Cool audio sound chips (or equillient) AND you don't get a case which you will have to buy separately. So quite a bit more than 999...
Stereo BBD chorus/flanger and stereo spring reverb for $499? Plus a stereo digital delay, yes. This seems like a pretty good deal. Does it go analog to digital, then back to analog?
jo co i thought it was sort of odd....it must be dual mono springs, cuz you can’t follow stereo fx with mono reverb, as it would just collapse the signal. I was shocked it was stereo at all, thinking it was all just mono mod, delay, reverb.
I was able to play it at Thomann's Synth Reactor, and it was absolutely amazing. There is some video content coming, I believe, where I at least examine it!
yep, lol.. mine is right next to me.. where have i seen that hot pink before? off topic.. what made the SGE Mach II different than the SGE.. i've owned both and frankly they seem 1:1 of course having owned a Multiverb, Nightbass, SGE and SGE Mach II, it's arguable that any of them are different under the hood.. lol.
I cringe when i see devices that have the ability to do strong LFO effects but offer no way to sync to tempo.. and at this price point.. seriously.. s/h is awesome but not all that useful when you can't clock it to a bpm..
As a person who was using synthesizers at a time when they were used in a wide variety of ways and in a wide variety of genres, it makes me sad that the convention of synced delays in popular electronic music is expected.
it should always be possible is all.. nothing wrong with it not syncing, but its disappointing to see it left out.. even something like an analog trigger.. i'm not saying MIDI has to be implemented.. just a CV would be really awesome.. imagine clocking it to a 7/8 time kick drum.. etc.. to put so much effort into a device like this and omit that just seems odd.. maybe the next version..
should always be possible.. omitting it limits its potential.. something this expensive shouldn't leave out something so basic.. even making the LFO trigger-able by a CV would not just enable it to be more effective, it would open up musical possibilities beyond a simple 4/4 maybe there will be a pro/mk2 version. i'd consider buying that. :)
no way that would stay sync.. no level of precision would keep it on tempo.. maybe it will stay synced for a few seconds but invariably, it will drift..
sounds very versatile, and impressive, - though i've never been a fan of the gaudy color schemes, but it wouldn't put me off buying it, - i bought all the Lovetone pedals in the 90s and still use them all the time, and they're about the ugliest looking processors on the planet.. no offence to dan or vlad
is it necessary to spend 3 mn to explain everytime that when you push a button it enables/disables the effect? Really? Your viewers are all producers / musicians for god's sake!!
It is the opposite of the expectations of many, and I can’t guarantee that a person is going to watch all of these in sequence, nor whether they’re going to watch all of the videos. But no, it’s not necessary. And I regret that it has caused you such distress.
@@automaticgainsay patience is no my biggest strenght! i like when things go fast to the point, i wanna hear the results! :D But thanks for your video and sorry for the spoiled brat comment!
No, I totally understand. There are times when I drone on and on about stuff I don't need to. But sometimes that droning helps people who know a little bit less than you do, so I sometimes leave it in. Thanks for watching anyway, weaselbusters! :D
I absolutely love you for this !!! I’ve gotten rid of more effects units than I can count but I REFUSED/REFUSE to get rid of this one! It’s one of two I have left after over a dozen in the last 3years and boy does this series make me more than happy!!!!
I still have mine, and I love it TO DEATH
If had one of these with a Medusa running through it and I never knew you covered it! Thank you 🙏🏾!
Wow. Just wow. You've only scratched the surface and I'm in love with this thing. Can't wait to hear its full potential!
Great work on these videos. Pre-ordered my hypnosis shortly after watching, which is being delivered today.
AMAZING FX,
especially the Stereo Chorus with LFO Panning!
Love it!
Good to see you're back!🎹🎧💫👍
17:40 - 18:06 sounded beautiful, nice choice of chords!
That was it for me too!
The Hypnosis was made just for me... Great video!
Thank you!
Ooooh, now that is VERY lush, and with S&H? Daaaaamn. Talk about possibilities!
I see that freeze on there, so I can't wait to hear that.
thanks for doing a thorough review
This box is gorgeous
Qith the Opus 3 I used to use three analog effects. I would break the signal into three parallel signals at one of the stereo outputs, usually the righ while leaving the left side dry. I would feed each of the wet signals into a different box: A DOD 640 flanger, one into an Electro Harmonix Clone Theory set to Chorus and the lest into an EH Bad Stone variable fazer (spelling so it did not get confused with STAR TREK), each of which I could sdt differently, so the sound was in parallel, then re-join the sounds in a DOD passive mixer. I could adjust the dry/wet mix with the sterio sliders on each section. I used this to simulate a 3 oscillator synthesizer
I now own a Dreadbox Hypnosis :3
When you showoff the spring reverb, can you make sure to flick and tap the spring while you're playing? Really interested in how it sounds with the flanger on with a square wave feeding it.. Thanks dude!
Would be nice to have some sort of external sync ability with that S&H
S and H chorus? Can it be 100% wet and be a random vibrato then? I know you cannot smooth out the LFO steps but still, would be nice...
Daaamn that is an instrument on its own. Gorgeous modulations.
you should have played the black lodge theme
I dunno, my Arp 2600 had a Spring Reverb effect that was so good that it worked even when the main case was unplugged. Just bumping it would bring out the tasty, springy goodness within. ;)
Wish the delay were BBD and had an LFO of its own, but still, this looks so great. I dunno why it's taken so long for someone to put together an effects unit like this.
Rad sounding effect box. Will definitely buy one when it comes out. Also a great review! Please consider a noise gate for your microphone for the parts where you are not speaking. This will help you remove any unwanted noise (breathing sounds) so that the audio from the product stays crisp. Anyway, thanks for the great video! :)
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Sounds proper lovely. And I thought this wouldn’t be out until “summer 2019” ;)
I don't know why and I couldn't specify a specific track but when you first started turning up the feedback I started to get Tears for Fears "The Hurting" vibes.
looks like some old art rack unit :D
I used to own a ART fx rack that looked like a skinny version of this!
@@phillytee9106 Was it any good?
Not really but it did the job, noisy as hell though@@stefan1024
Doesn't sound like one though... I have a Proverb I upgraded to a Proverb 200 - it's decent but a bit noisy. It only is a preset device...
Is it a good idea to use hypnosis with a korg monologue ???
What do you think guys ??
It's weird there's no dry/wet control, right? Would rather have that than the not-bypass button.
Some people may talk shit about the Alpha Juno series (hopefully that's decreasing - it seems like it), but they have some cool features, and do sound good. I'm glad I snagged my AJ2 several years ago before prices for vintage synths (even the inexpensive ones) went up even more. I think I paid like $250.
Of course I do get what you mean, though, Marc; I wasn't referring to your comments in the video. It's not a glorious VCO poly for sure. Glad to see you're reviewing the hypnosis, good idea! And good choice of synth - again, you are right by it being helped more than some others
[Sorry for semi-long comment]
I do bash the Roland DCO polys, but my bashing is more about having people respond to their sound more realistically... because there is a TREMENDOUS amount of hype over them that has developed in the last decade and a half or so. The truth is, they have their place, and they have a distinctive and useful sound. But there is nothing "warm" about them, and they were never a "classic polysynth." The were the synths that bands got in the early 80s when they couldn't afford a truly classic polysynth. :D
@@automaticgainsay Ah, yeah, that makes sense
@Stephen Anthony To be honest, I think the AJ can be at least a little warm - it certainly has an analog character (and it is an analog synth, just with DCOs, after all, heh). Even some hybrids, like the DW-8000, can get decently warm. You wanna talk about thin and sterile? JP 8000 is a pretty good example, haha. The AJ is awesome in comparison.
I agree about the filter, I've always thought it was pretty nice sounding. And the pulse saws were a great inclusion
Edit: But to be clear, I certainly agree, DCOs just aren't going to be very warm at all. The warm/analog character I'm referring to likely comes from the VCFs and VCAs, of course
Great. Can't wait ...
For him to actually start playing?
Not surprisingly the Hypnosis is cool and sounds great, but good job on the video opening graphics as well...nice and nicely fitting for the piece of gear. Also glad they got you to do this...I'm guessing Eric passed you the one he had at NAMM.
Very nice!
The bypass light on feels totally backward to me....
Its a standard in guitar effects for the bypass light to be on when the effect is on and off when the effect is off
I need this.
Now Pete...we really only NEED air, water, and food...but this IS a close second I'll agree.
@@ProckGnosis The look of it *does* steal my breath :D
@@ProckGnosis Honestly, it's not *that* special, but I love Dreadbox stuff, and this ticks all the right boxes. The tacky 80's design is just icing.
@@Psychlist1972 Like a lot of stuff nowadays, might not have been so special in 1984, but it definitely scratches the 2019 itch. I did mention to them if retro was what they were going for, this (the look) nailed it, and then I showed the a couple pix of some old ART effects boxes as well...had a similar color scheme, but with one-fifth the "cool factor" (and the ART boxes were from the 90s). Looking forward to using it with the Abyss.
It sounds nice, but in comparison to something like an Eventide H9 I'm not totally convinced for the money. I saw the retail price is about AUD790 in my country (Australia) and the H9 is anywhere between AUD750 and 850 and on the Eventide you get all the same nice chorus/flange, delay etc, plus a bunch of other effects *and* MIDI control. It would need to be about 60% of the price it retails for to get me sufficiently interested in it. It's a cool box though.
yeah but you cant edit the h9 in realtime like this, or maybe you can with midi? i would be curious to know, the h9 sounds amazing and im struck between the two
@@gts1067 You can with the app and the controls do offer some real time editing capabilities, though as you say not with the full range of parameters that this unit has.
Eventide has no analog fx, it is all downloadable digital algorithms, unless I am mistaken.
The Hypnosis is primarily analog, note the spring in it.
@@MrBothandNether That's correct. The analogue vs digital aspect is not really an issue for me -- I go with whatever sounds best and has the maximum flexibility.
@@adam872 I am a big fan of both realms, but the warmth and unique symbiosis is a trade-off for hundreds more modeled effects, We own eventide and the strymons,My wife loves it..but my workflow avoids the option overload, atm.
Also, there is no way I am putting on the ground and stepping on it 🤡
I thimk the sound you chose doesn't favor the demonstration. The technical principle of a chorus is to have two signal slitely out-of.phase. This can be recreate on a synth in detuning one of the oscillators(hint for all sound designers). The problem is that it's exactly how you created your first original sound (or maybe you used a sound that already have chorus on it, as the alpha juno 1 has only one oscillator per voice). So basically you created a chorus effect on your synth and then you try to add a chorus effect. A flanger is a chorus with a LFO modulating the phase or frequency difference. As long as you have two different oscillators and a LFO, chorus and flanger are the two easiest effect to reproduce natively on an analog synth. I think this demosntration would have been much more efficient if you had chosen an original sound that doesn't have a detuned oscillator. Maybe it's a technical issue, as you stated you were using the mono output, so you won't hear the built-in chorus effect, but from the beginning, the sound I have in my headphone is stereo.
denis castaings That’s some nice science you’re dropping there, but I assume most viewers of this video are rather interested in hearing the Hypnosis effect in real life musical scenarios. Adding chorus to an analog pad is absolutely one of them.
Dacci,I'm totally agree with you. I was just stating that in order to illustrate this, he should have used a pad sound that doesn't initially has chorus in it. I wasn't trying to show any science. This trick of detuning the oscillator, so creating this chorus effect, is what I use with my monophonic synth to create strings and pads sounds. It's also how string synths used to work.
The Alpha Juno 1 has a chorus, and it's frequently implemented in the sounds because the DCOs are so frigid. I made sure to turn the chorus off on this particular patch, and I think I even pointed that out. The sound you're hearing could be PWM modulation or something else, but it's not chorus. And the moment where the Hypnosis chorus is added should portray a distinctly different sound.
Later in the demonstration, I was less concerned about whether the relatively-tame Alpha Juno chorus was engaged or not for the reason that Dacci Pucci pointed out.
A flanger is a delay with short (typical) delay times ranging from 0.5 to 5 ms.
A chorus is a delay effect too, with longer (typical) delay time ranging from 5 to 30 ms.
In both cases, mixing the time modulated signal, back with the dry, gives the audible sweeps and shifts, in the frequency domain.
Arguably the max flanger time and lower chorus time, can overlap but saying that "The technical principle of a chorus is to have two signal slitely out-of.phase", is not taking into account the longer delay times involved with chorus that makes the signal sound "doubled", hence the chorus name.
alpha juno is a good choice, roland DCOs aren't that terrible though ;). A Yamaha FM IMO would be a great way to demonstrate this product as well. I really want one of these though...
Very nice
This should NOT be the first Dreadbox item you review. Their SYNTHS are fantastic.
Don't worry about that. There's a Dreadbox synth demo in the works! :D
Bypass is not happening or It is not not active
That's because the light means the opposite
now combine that with a Streichfett!
I hope you can get Deckard's Dream. It seems cool.
orazdow too pricey.
@@SPAZZOID100 I dunno, the kit is 999$. Considering it's a full replica of a CS80, I think that's pretty cheap, not that I could afford it currently, but 1k for a CS80...
@@oraz. I believe that this kit only includes the basics, like pcb boards and some hard to source components. But you have to source the rest yourself, including a bunch of Cool audio sound chips (or equillient) AND you don't get a case which you will have to buy separately. So quite a bit more than 999...
@@RobLocksley true true
Stereo BBD chorus/flanger and stereo spring reverb for $499? Plus a stereo digital delay, yes. This seems like a pretty good deal.
Does it go analog to digital, then back to analog?
I'm wondering if the spring is stereo, their website doesn't mention it. Regardless still seems like an awesome box!
jo co i thought it was sort of odd....it must be dual mono springs, cuz you can’t follow stereo fx with mono reverb, as it would just collapse the signal. I was shocked it was stereo at all, thinking it was all just mono mod, delay, reverb.
@@Deeplycloseted435 either that, or the order is reverb, delay, mod? Hm, let's wait for part 2 and 3 of this CZcams series...
The bypass concept seems...backwards?
Marc when are you reviewing the moog one?
I was able to play it at Thomann's Synth Reactor, and it was absolutely amazing. There is some video content coming, I believe, where I at least examine it!
looks like my old ART SGX back in the 80's
yep, lol.. mine is right next to me.. where have i seen that hot pink before? off topic.. what made the SGE Mach II different than the SGE.. i've owned both and frankly they seem 1:1 of course having owned a Multiverb, Nightbass, SGE and SGE Mach II, it's arguable that any of them are different under the hood.. lol.
I'd venture to say that it's more of an instrument than a typical fx pedal.
Gimme dat weird weird
Could I plug my guitar in it ;-)
Can't wait to get the Medusa bouncing around inside this thing!
what a box! .-)
This weepy detune chorus fits my A E S T H E T I C.
I cringe when i see devices that have the ability to do strong LFO effects but offer no way to sync to tempo.. and at this price point.. seriously.. s/h is awesome but not all that useful when you can't clock it to a bpm..
As a person who was using synthesizers at a time when they were used in a wide variety of ways and in a wide variety of genres, it makes me sad that the convention of synced delays in popular electronic music is expected.
it should always be possible is all.. nothing wrong with it not syncing, but its disappointing to see it left out.. even something like an analog trigger.. i'm not saying MIDI has to be implemented.. just a CV would be really awesome.. imagine clocking it to a 7/8 time kick drum.. etc.. to put so much effort into a device like this and omit that just seems odd.. maybe the next version..
should always be possible.. omitting it limits its potential.. something this expensive shouldn't leave out something so basic.. even making the LFO trigger-able by a CV would not just enable it to be more effective, it would open up musical possibilities beyond a simple 4/4 maybe there will be a pro/mk2 version. i'd consider buying that. :)
You can sync it to tempo manually by just setting the knob precisely. ☀️👍🏻
no way that would stay sync.. no level of precision would keep it on tempo.. maybe it will stay synced for a few seconds but invariably, it will drift..
This box is not that small, I wish I had the 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
Magic tool space
5.45 sounds like the synth on a Joy Division song .Decades , the producer helped develop the synth at the time
peter liolis 5:45
Amazing, but the 80's need their graphic designer back.
No, no they do not.
sounds very versatile, and impressive, - though i've never been a fan of the gaudy color schemes, but it wouldn't put me off buying it, - i bought all the Lovetone pedals in the 90s and still use them all the time, and they're about the ugliest looking processors on the planet.. no offence to dan or vlad
is it necessary to spend 3 mn to explain everytime that when you push a button it enables/disables the effect? Really? Your viewers are all producers / musicians for god's sake!!
It is the opposite of the expectations of many, and I can’t guarantee that a person is going to watch all of these in sequence, nor whether they’re going to watch all of the videos.
But no, it’s not necessary. And I regret that it has caused you such distress.
@@automaticgainsay patience is no my biggest strenght! i like when things go fast to the point, i wanna hear the results! :D But thanks for your video and sorry for the spoiled brat comment!
No, I totally understand. There are times when I drone on and on about stuff I don't need to. But sometimes that droning helps people who know a little bit less than you do, so I sometimes leave it in. Thanks for watching anyway, weaselbusters! :D
Too much talking
Don't blame an orange for tasting like an orange when you put it in your mouth.
AutomaticGainsay nice one dude