Diane Downs: The Lost Tapes │ BEDSIDE INTERROGATION: PART 1 │ (5-21-83)
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- Recorded on May 21, 1983 at McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center.
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The "sightseeing" would have been my first clue. The way to go back to Springfield is Marcola Rd which you have to take anyways to reach the exit for Old Mohawk Rd. As for vegetation and sightseeing both roads are exactly the same. Old Mohawk Rd connects back to Marcola Rd aprox one and half mile ahead, so it would be stupid for anyone driving back to Springfield exit Marcola just to join Marcola again in less than 2 miles. Both are rural 2 lanes road sided by trees and vegetation. But there is a significant difference between the 2 roads at night, Marcola has traffic while Old Mohawk is completely deserted. Any woman with 3 kids in the car would stay in Marcola Rd unless she is looking for an isolated spot where to stop the car without being bothered by passing traffic. There's nothing in Old Mohawk Rd that you don't see in Marcola Rd (vegetation and trees). The whole "sightseeing" crap is nothing but bullshit right there.
Exactly. I used to live in St Helens. She was looking for a deserted road.
And out sight seeing with children on a school night at 9:30 pm???
Can't see anything and the kids would be exhausted.
She gets more excited talking about the guys she works with than ever mentioning the children.
She has no trauma in her voice. Anyone that loves their kids is going to have an extremely difficult time retelling the story. She tells it like she’s talking about something ordinary
I bet she loved the fact that Farrah played her in the movie, you know it went right to her BIG ego
It sure did!! At her parole hearing thats on this same channel she said the ppl in prison dont hate her because she is a "child killer" that they hate her because she is "famous"..insane!! She's infamous not famous.😂
Certainly
I said the exact same thing
She told the detective, "Ok, back to the scene." Like she is describing a movie, or a script. I can't believe how nonchalant and absolutely ice cold she is describing her children. "They looked yellow. Have you ever seen a dead person before? " while giggling. Malignant narcissist and psychopath. I listened to her most recent parole hearing. She hasn't changed. She tried to pretend she wants answers for her children but it's all about her. She is a definite risk to society, but specifically to her children. There is something seriously wrong with her. She is not like the rest of humanity. Something is missing. She should never be released.
It's insane that she doesn't realize how effing insane she sounds. She actually says some of the most disturbing shit out loud...it's CRAZY. She says shit that most people would never even think up in our heads, not even in a moment of weakness...like WTF?!
Crazy ppl never think they’re crazy!!
Perfectly put!
She was proud of her aim. Evil woman.
She is LAUGHING throughout this interview. What kind of monster, even in the throes of shock, LAUGHINGLY responds to a police investigation of her dead children? It's unbelievable.
Children freshly shot, one dead and she's talking like she's recalling a trip to the mall .
Its Disgusting.
How can she state her child did not suffer?
The poor child was shot in the chest and died choking on her own blood, by her own murderous mother’s statements. Horrifying!!!
I know. I cannot believe she is actually this evil. It's beyond anything I've ever seen. She was a munchy by proxy mom before we ever heard that term. Sick bitch.
Actually, Betty, that's her description of Christie, the one who survived and was adopted by the Hugis. Not that that makes her any less horrifying, but thought it would comfort you to know that.
The daughter who died (Cheryl, RIP) did so almost instantly.
I cannot believe she actually said that she was devastated when they mistakenly told her Christy died because she's her favorite. Everything she says is atrocious but for some reason that seemed more callous than other things she's said.
Also, she said she told Nick "I think I love the kids even more than I love you". Shouldn't that be how it is with every parent and their kids when they are with a new boyfriend???
I love my kids & grandkids more than my husband!
Oh, I totally believe she said that! Evil woman right there! Talking about how Sheryl was ugly and she didn't know how she made such an ugly child😔
@@kellyballard8399 exactly! How horrific of any parent to say!!
@kellyballard8399 right?! She's absolutely as horrible as they come...just a complete waste of space!!
@@kellyballard8399if you read “small sacrifices” by Ann Rule there’s a part where the neighbors said she treated Cheryl different, that she showed a big difference in the girls, it’s really sad but DD was and still is a psychopath with histrionic personality disorder
"This is MY time". UNREAL!!!!! Thank you SO MUCH for posting this!! I can't believe this!!! I thought I had heard it all. This breaks my heart. Those poor babies...Downs is a certified MONSTER
Right????!!! That blew my mind!
Yeah that was batty as hell
I can’t get over her telling the story so upbeat + happy sounding
She talks about what her children went through like she was discussing the weather while planning a picnic.
She is way too calm cool and collective!!
Wow, she's talking, laughing and then in the next sentence talking about her kids being shot and dying. Her voice never change !! She is scary and crazy!! 😱
and 40 years later she is exactly the same. Her 2020 parole hearing is on CZcams.
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On this very channel, the one in 3 parts!
“They told me my daughter Cheryl might not make it and I said, okay”. Chilling.
that was so scary. To think people can be that way is horrifying.
Even worse the Dr in the Er that night Dr Miller made a mistake and mixed up Cheryl and Christy’s names so when it was clear that Cheryl had died they told Diane that It was Christy that had passed and she said quote unquote
“Ughh really? Damn she was my favorite of the two but okay…”
Dr. Miller and his staff testified that he had never heard anything like that from a parent’s mouth in his entire career and it was the oddest most bizarre thing for any parent to say.
smh really?
@@melaniebrown7703 When told that Cheryl had died, Diane said, “Oh. She was to be my athlete.”
I would have broken down and been absolutely Hysterical begging for the Doctors to do ANYTHING necessary to save my children. This Bitch is Evil
I think the Good Lord above let him make that mistake because it helped give away her Evil
OMG! One thing you would not want to say to Diane is "Why don't you go ahead and take it from the top." MY god that woman can talk.
I know, when he said that I reached for extra drinks and snacks, this is gonna be a long one.
@24:31 She was crushed thinking that Cheryl had survived because she favoured Christie more? They were children! HER children! I can't.
This is THE MOST disturbing, disgusting rantings of a complete lunatic ive ever heard! There is not ONE thing she says that is a natural reaction from a loving mother. I was sickened by her when it happened years ago but this is next level depravity 😢
You should listen to her parole hearings ....still a raving lunatic
@laurahoward5426 I listened to those & agree .she never shuts up either just rattles on & on & on 🥴
@@laurahoward5426 I did and she is every bit as awful as she was 40 years ago.
Best channel in CZcams history.
You're right!
I knew the interview existed but never could find it!....UNTIL NOW! Thank you!
She sounds insane and not like a mother who just lost her daughter
“Surprise, surprise”. Casey Anthony said those exact words. 😨
Yes!!! I wondered if anyone else picked that up?! 🤘🏼
Casey Anthony was a slightly better actress.
She's laughing throughout almost the entire interview
"I wanna see who is alive; I don't want to see who's dead; I want to see who is alive...."
This woman is absolutely certifiable. 🤯
Cause she wanted to make sure the survivors don’t talk
Christie’s my favorite?! No remorse. No genuine emotion. It’s all a show, and she is the Star. Disgusting.
@C. Davis of course she said that. She described Cheryl as a baby who always cried who was ugly. She couldn't understand how she could have a baby that was ugly. The only ugly thing is Diane Downs point blank! Evil vile deviant sadistic POS!!!
Christie pointed the finger at her at trial. Bet she is no longer favourite.
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Ha, haha ha, ha!
it's amazing that you got your hands on this tapes!
I've read Ann Rule's Small Sacrifices a few years ago which gives a deep account of Downs' life before, during and after the crimes, but reading something doesn't put you in the moment so well as actually hearing it does. Her TV interviews show how she basks in the attention and she's more animated in those, but this is different again and within hours of the murder and attempted murders and she's totally unconcerned about any of it! She can't even act pitiful for her children's state and her inappropriate behaviour for the circumstances is more horrifying than words in a book can describe.
Notice whenever she starts talking about her kids she says “anyways” as if she’s getting off track of this important story about herself!
"Because I want to see who the hell is dead! Who was it? Ya know? You want to know who to mourn for and who you're supposed to cry for."
They told me, "Cheri might not make it.", and I said, "Okay.".. My puke reflex is feeling triggered.
this is the audio that scares me the most of diane.
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS. listening now. What scares me is how calm she discusses the shooting of her children. I used to think she was calm when talking about the murders because they happened a few months/years ago. Here it was so recent. she was so calm!! Also she mentions that she prayed that if they had to die to kill them, but not make them suffer. How could she think that? I think people normally grip to the life of their kids. they would not pray for them to die... these videos are very eye opening. I was supporting diane. i felt bad for her. I thought that she should be free now. but wow. she is evil.
Exactly, a parent doesn't care what kind of shape they're going to end up in, as long as they LIVE. Their survival is everything to non insane parents :))
She talks about being a conscientious mother but no mother I know drives her young kids around at 9pm - unless there is a proper reason to do so. She was full of rage as Knickerbocker wasn't obeying her demands.
yes. also it does not seem she ever gave her kids dinner even?
I know moms and dads who will drive their kids until they fall asleep
@@aprilsilvers2666Do any of them end up dead though?
@@christineoleary3862 not the ones I know. Parents who kill will find anyway justice other murderers
@@christineoleary3862 one of the daughters died.
"If they have to die let em die, but don't let them suffer". Jesus.
This crazy B.... Talks about it like having a fun day at the beach.She laughs at times while telling the story.She also talks about stopping at a stop sign? Her kids are dying and she stops? Wow!!!
I caught that too. She said one stop light was green so she didn’t have to stop. SERIOUSLY! I would be flying through every stop light whether it was green or not hoping a police officer would pull me over to help me. What a psychopath!!!
“This is my time” when the interrogation is interrupted by the police scanner. That tells you everything you need to know about her right there.
That was the nurse's p.a. system. This was conducted in the hospital.
But still, you have a point about that "my time" remark. :))
how can you describe your CHILD BEING SHOT IN THE CHEST as "dead on"?????
That's was so disturbing huh? I think she let it slipped that she " dead on" made those shots..
@@annettedailey6743 you're right, because how dare we NOT acknowledge the fact she did something "perfectly"
It’s like she’s talking about a fish or pet who didn’t make it instead of her child.
@@TheWhereyouare we cry harder for our pets!
She talk to much and mention thing that not related to the shooting
For real.... many times especially when she mentioned the beach towel that she wrapped her arm in and mentioned the beach trip the week before, how irrelevant and is a tactic to cover up lies
Classic clouding to middle the waters.
At this point, she wasn't able to see her children freely. If my children had been shot, myself, one dead, the others critical AND they wouldn't let me see my children...I would have been out of my mind in grief, horror, emotional exhaustion, trauma and sadness that they would have had to sedate me or put me on suicidal watch. No way a mother would be as calm as her. I would have hardly been able to do any interviews let alone one where I was calm. I always had normal, slight doubts watching her interviews. Not after this. This is horrible and I wish we knew the real truth of what happened that day. Idk if she shot them or had help but I know she did it. That is a voice that feels nothing.
Oh, Diane was the one who shot her kids. I truly believe she acted alone. She is sick and twisted enough to do this all on her own. She wanted to be with her boyfriend and he made it clear that he did not want to be a daddy to her kidd.
She had dreams of building a house where the kids would be on one end, and Diane and her married boyfriend would live on the other. I have no doubt she would have expected those kids to take care of themselves, as her boyfriend didn't want any part of them.
Susan Smith was in the same situation. She was in love with the son of the CEO of the company she worked for, and he made it clear he did not want kids.
Both of these women are sociopaths. It would never occur to them to give custody of the kids to their father. They were very selfish and heartless.
Neither Diane or Susan should ever be allowed to be released. Diane is a serious threat to her parents. Its obvious in the parole interview.
She did it herself. She has no loyalty to anyone so she'd pin it on the shooter by now if there was one, and then she'd pretend they threatened her life and made her go along with it .... she'd flip on anyone else involved if it got her freedom
It's ALL about her. That monotone lying voice is maddening. Even here she didn't shed one tear.
She is way too giddy and calm!!
Complete narcissism. She was more concerned about her self inflicted injury than her kids. I read the book Small Sacrifices decades ago, saw the movie, and watched her Oprah interview. I don't know why this story fascinates me so much but it's really interesting to hear this interrogation. What a psychopath.
Christie was my favorite! OMG!
Its ridiculousl how long it took them to arrest her. How would a total stranger know that there was a child asleep under her sweater on the floor board? Her story is absurd.
The investigators took their time to meticulously build a case against Downs that would be accepted in court.
"Cuz, you know, you wanna know who you're supposed to cry for." 25:00. As in, give me stage directions, I don't know how to act cuz I'm a psycho, you gotta splain it to me."
Unbelievable how she's telling the story! No saddness, no crying, no pain in her voice. I don't think I'd even be able to talk at all if I had gone through something like that. They would have had to sedate me. She's laughing and just talking like it was a trip to the market. I've watched everything on her and this case and it still haunts me. The level of crazy this woman is is off the charts, but so intriguing
I have listened to almost every interview Diane Downs has ever been involved in and the lunatic is her own worst enemy. She just never seems to know when to shut up. She just rambles on and on and one thing just rolls into another.
The interviewer will blow a little smoke up her ass about how smart she is and boy she really gets to rolling then.
During her parole hearings she always goes on and on about somebody being after her and how innocent she is. She rambles on about this and that and just convinces everyone on the parole board that she needs to stay right where she is.
How many times did we hear, MY arm is really starting to hurt.
Who stops at stop signs n stop lights after your kid's were shot 🤔 I'd never be that calm n collected if my kid's had been shot! I wouldn't even be able to breathe. How can u tell so many stories n laugh after such a tragedy 😡😪
Even if they weren't your kids. Even if they were adult friends. We STILL wouldn't dream of stopping at stop signs!!
Psychopath. Definitely a psychopath.
I dont know about anyone else but I would have been distraught, I don't think I would have been telling them all that crap about bloody cake and work and pets, I would have been totally focused on what happened to my children! She's crazy! It's like nothing happened! In fact I can't listen to much more of "Diane's life"
Thanks, looking forward to this❣️
Any mother would jump toward to grab the gun away from a man shooting her children. The lies she told are unreal. It would be a natural primal instinct. This woman is evil. Pure evil.
it is also telling she focused on "calling the cops" but not "GET MU CHILDREN MEDICAL HELP NOW!!" Her priorities were messed up. When she talks about the child under the sweater and then says: "she is the one that died..." wow that hurt
Right! Her priority was establishing her innocence after shooting her children.
Wondering when part two will be released? Thank you.
If her dad had truly molested her, there’s no way a mother would leave her children around him.
I used to work in a residential facility for kids in the system. I can tell you, sadly, this is unfortunately not true.
Once again…Casey Anthony made these same exact claims about her father.
Even if he did, that's bad, but doesn't mean you become a murderer
Elle, my mom and her siblings were molested by their brother, and my mom actually brought him around my sister and I as babies. One morning, she awoke to him changing my diaper, and she got scared that he'd done something to me. Her common sense (which she has always lacked in certain situations), should've told her that bringing us around her brother was a bad idea, but again, she hasn't always been very bright in a lot of ways. She even had the nerve to bring him to a place for people with disabilities that I attended as a young adult because she wanted us to meet. Yes, I was an adult, but what if my mom's brother had molested any of my disabled friends? She and the center probably would've been sued, and the center probably would've been shut permanently.
Not true. I know
For something that only lasted a few minutes she sure had time to think things out huh? Her story was so unbelievable and rehearshed.. I despise this woman.
Talking to people would never take any parents mind off losing their kids.. Shes insane!
As a mother... with children who had been shot... I'd be a wreck 😫... absolutely nothing...from her... my favorite?? Who as a mother has a favorite child??? WTF
When she describes christies look of "terror or confusion" while being shot. How did you get a clear look on her face. Shouldn't you be focusing on fighting the man that was shooting and murdering your kids! You can tell shes guilty right there!!!!
Exactly. Exactly. It's patently ridiculous.
What baffles me is, after days and weeks pass, with her iq, she STILL can't paint a more realistic scenario?
A huge problem, I guess, is there's not a single mark on her, anywhere, other than the gunshot, so it's obvious she didn't tussle with the phantom.
Oh my goodness. She is inhuman
She was up for parole this year. The hearing is on CZcams. She is still as cold as ice.
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I would love to hear from people that knew her back in the day…before the shooting. She gives…floozie. 🤷🏻♀️
She definitely has distinct signs of "floozie" about her, in one interview she talks about having "only" had 10 lovers in 2 years and "only half of them were married" (as if that's a good thing?)
I'd give her backshots for the banter.
She definitely slept her way through the post office where she worked… married or not, she didn’t care.
This floozy put men before her precious children..Despicable
She used men to get children. To get attention...and so on and so on.
She doesn't have any emotion at all. Very very sad for the children. Listen to her parole hearings. That's even worse.
Who stops for a strange man at night. NO ONE.
What an evil thing, not her favorite, not a tear wow evil evil.
She wouldn't even let him get a word in.
she is still like that. 40 years later and she is exactly the same.
Even in the way she talks it's like she's on a mission to convince you of her story. She is very kooky!
Did she just say Christie was her favorite?😳. This lady needs to be put down, I'm sorry 😢
She thought she had this in the bag!
They should have the Nurse come in and say, so your kids were shot and 1 is dead, every few minutes.
Not one tear for entire easy Convo for first 30mins She in a better mood than me if my children just got attacked and 1 murdered she been detached from any human emotions Ice Cold hearted no heart racing no panic no trauma just wow no tears at all no remorse
I might have believed her up until the towel. You can tell she didn't quite think through the towel story and how it got on her arm That's where it starts to fall apart.
You might have believed her???? 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ glad you weren’t on the jury
"I'm a real conscientious mother"- she seems to care more for her precious "bundt cake" than her babies! And I don't care how many "old friends" I spoke to, it would never, for one second, take my mind off the fact that my kids had been shot!??
"I don't want to see who's dead, I want to see who's alive". She's out of her Flippin mind if she thinks these are appropriate things to say.
Her laughing and making jokes 😡🤬
She's around a male.
She said she had a favorite child. 😢
New subscriber here! Going over these videos. Thanks for posting ❤
Thank you very much 4:50 . . . . . . . (Inspects card)
. . . . . (They weren't from Knick) So, um.... we went to the blahblah
The fact that the flowers weren't from him, you could hear the sadness in her "so, um..."
"and I said to nick, I might love the kids more than you" Oh. My. God
I don't know, some people talk in this manner about horrors that happen to their children/siblings to distance themselves from the tragedy: Look at Burke R. he was smiling talking about his murdered sister- experts say that is his mechanism to cope with it all. Maybe this is hers? I don't know. Did the police check her hands/arms for powder burns from the gun????? You never hear of that at all. I mean, that would prove it 100% yet I have NEVER EVER heard they found powder burns on her hands/arms. I am no saying she is innocent but that would prove it. ALso years ago on our small private road by the lake where I grew up a man attacked me- which just didn't happen where I grew up NEVER, it was very safe there -- I don't want to go into it here in detail, but I was in the hospital EIGHT days and I am a total germ freak-I was freaking out because I hate hospitals. After a few days there, all of a sudden eveyrthing changed: the cops/investigators were saying there alf- I mean my head on the sidee was so battered it perforated my ear drum, blood all over the place debris in mytemple area, it was horrid I had double vision for over a week, I was so nauseuous I couldn't move my eyes at all I had to keep them straight ahead at all times, I couldn't lay down I had to sleep sitting up or else I would get SO dizzy and throw up- I couldn't understand WHY they were insinuating this. This case made me think of that incident with me because maybe there WAS a man that stopped her. I man stopped me asking about a lost kitten of which I SAW the flyers on that road so I thought it was a man that lived in one of the side roads there. When DD said that about a man approached her car, maybe she thought he needed some assistance or something. She also inferred they weren't investigaing this person that she said apporached her car or something to that affect, SAME with me, they told me after a couple of months to, in essence, leave them alone, stop asking about the investiagion and to this day 25 years later no one was charged even though I picked the man out of 66 photos in three different photos, and they were shocked I was able to do that --because he looked different in each of the three photos; (he WAS seen in that road talking to home owners who were friends of his a few weeks before I think it said), . SO that made me think about what she is saying here.
She thinks she loves her children even more than her husband 🙄..wtf!!!
That's so fucked up
And Nick wasn't even her husband. He was a married man that she was having an affair with.
it is also weird that she mentions that crystie was her favorite. i didn't know parents had favorites and admitted which one was the favorite. it is also weird she says that given that she knows her other daughter died.
They were just objects to her. She is a Narcissist - they have zero empathy. In one of her interviews she laughed about how easy they were to make and were replaceable.
@@pallasathena1369 you are right. this clearly shows she viewed them as objects.
@@chubbyJess if you research Narcissist personality disorder it is a real eye opener on all criminals. We have empathy so we tend to fall for their victimhood ..at first ...then see and feel intuitively that they are dangerous. Not every narcissist is a killer but every killer is a Narcissist..
@@pallasathena1369 thanks for sharing. i think some killers are not narcissists. They could have been manipulated to kill. They can be escape goats etc. but you are right that diane is a narc
Parents definitely have favourites but mostly won‘t admit it. If you‘re not sure who is the favourite child of your parents - ask your siblings, and you‘ll probably find out it‘s you. Golden Children typically don‘t notice that they are the favoured child, but the other sibling(s) definitely will.
It always struck me strange, cops felt she washed gun powder residue off at the hospital. I wonder if they checked her car steering wheel for gunpowder residue
Did the children even have dinner that night?!?! What a mom !!🤮🤢
this interrogation scares me. I think she waited to get to the hospital till she heard that christie was no longer breathing. she wanted to ensure that Christie was dead. surprisingly, christie did make it. i think she took great pleasure of when christie was reaching out to her and had the blood gushing out of her. she talks a lot about it and smiles in future interviews. here she did not mention it. what do others think?
Thanks for posting these
Yes I think she delighted in the fact that she successfully murdered at least one of her children. It was her intent to murder all 3.
She seems to get immense pleasure from reliving the particular moment when blood was coming from her child’s mouth. I have seen her talk about it in other interviews & she gets very animated when she talks about it. I actually think she is mimicking someone else that she heard in a movie or tv. She describes it like something you would have heard in a drama from that time period. She is so cliche, almost like a 70s/80s soap opera actress wannabe trying to play out a scene where someone got shot.
I agree with you. Even in 2020 at her hearing she alluded to it! I don't know what it is, but something about her choking on her own blood pleases her. --!oh!
I just realized, maybe because it showed what a good shot she was? Maybe she thought it meant she'd hit the heart, as intended? After all, here she precedes it with "so... dead on."
The sign of a liar is someone that adds a bunch of useless information that they believe will make you think they are telling the truth.
“I think I love the kids even more than you…” 30:13 What?? I’d hope so!
You can see how selfish she is by the car she purchased,that ain't a family car at all,no room for the kids 😔 or for shopping either 😔, selfish hard hearted woman PERIOD 😞. Godbless the prosecutor and his wife for adopting these beautiful innocent 😇 children,and godbless the other parents who adopted her innocent 😇 baby 🍼 back then too.🙏♥️
Good point, it was a "dating" car for a single woman!
Detective is probably thinking "...she's a Loon"
“ I think I love the kids more than you”. What parent says that. It shows she was more interested in being with Nick than the kids.
I absolutely cannot listen to this monster. She is truly one of the scariest people I’ve ever heard of. No emotions whatsoever.
"I know she didn't suffer.."????
Wow, she is crazy!!!!
Did they look in the rapids for the gun? The way she addresses the rapids struck me as odd. She then speaks of the bridge over the McKenzie river. I’m just wondering if they stuck a super strong magnet in the rapids to look for the weapon, since those would be difficult to search otherwise.
Great question, where would the rapids be in relation to the river though?
Are you talking about the 7:35 segment? I had to go back and listen because I could not remember her mentioning the rapids when I first watched the video. The subtitles say rabbits. I'm not a native speaker of English but it does sound like she says rapids. I agree it is a good comment you're making. The fact that they never found the actual gun that was used bothers me. I'd like to hear from an expert how likely or common it is to not find a gun that has been thrown in the water, especially a river of the kind of the Mohawk. Some people argue that based on the efforts deployed by the police, the gun should have been found, had it been thrown there. I wonder if this is truly the case, i.e. if she just got lucky or if a gun thrown in that environment is actually very hard to find in general. Was this issue addressed during the trial?
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I’m not sure if they addressed precisely where they looked at trial other than near Hayden Bridge. There is an awful lot of water to search in that area but I bet they tried hard. There were tons of bushes, woods and two rivers. It would be a huge task to locate an item the size of a gun and maybe they felt they had enough evidence without it. I’m not sure. They did a good job by being patient and letting her talk up a storm to the media while her daughter recovered. Having a witness was their best evidence.
I wonder if they looked in the Mohawk River as well as the McKenzie though. I think there are more areas with rapids in the Mohawk, and she could have gotten to it rather quickly back then. They found she had opened the passenger door so she was out running around in any case. There appears to be a good deal of homes on old Mohawk road now so maybe one day someone will find it (more people in the water, more likely to be found, if it’s there). Rare earth magnets are the strongest. I don’t know how much her gun weighed but I’m sure it hasn’t gone far … if in the water. It will move like a rock or sink in the silt.
Follow-up: based on Ann Rules's Small Sacrifices, the issue was addressed. The forensic expert conducted a test to see if a similar gun put in a styrofoam-lined zippered case would float and it did, meaning if thrown into the Old Mohawk River, as the investigators believed happened, it could have gone very far. "Possibly never to be found" - pages 368-369 (also some info page 72). Diane herself said, back when she arguably didn't feel threatened, and was cooperating with the cops, that if she was the shooter she would have buried the gun or thrown it into the water. Considering that 1) the casings were found in the "one spot...where the road came closer to the river" and 2) everyone who had knowledge of the gun, especially those who said they saw it in her trunk, said it was stored in a case, I find it extremely believable that the gun was thrown into the turmoil of the river and could not be found despite extensive efforts because it was in a case and floated away.
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Thank you for sharing that. I had no idea a gun case would float but it makes sense they tested that out. They were super focused on getting her off the streets so I have always trusted they did their very best with every square inch of that case. Hopefully - if anyone stumbles across a weapon of any kind, they turn it in. There are many missing ones out there.
That’s one scary sociopath. I’m more than happy that she’s never going to get out.
I don't know why people are so shocked. She's just a psychopath, by definition, so this behavior is just to be expected. Yes, it's terrible, but nothing unexplainable. The explanation is psychopathy. She's not crazy or lunatic, she's just a psychopath.
She mentions her hurt arm twice as much and with more emotion than ever mentioning her kids with any emotion much less a giggle...
How can she talk so much when she knows she telling lies and just keep on talking and talking😢😢😢😢😢
“ Which is ridiculous because he was on foot and couldn’t catch her”. Gee I thought you were driving fast to save your kids.
First of all it's common knowledge that offenders offer too much irrelevant information in interviews. She's going on about cake?! She's also more concerned about her arm than her dying children?! It's all about her. No emotion whatsoever. She's a monster.
Where are the part two, and so on of her interrogations? I just keep listening as I push for the next and their repeats, except for her 2020 parole hearing. Then there was no update on what they said to Diane Diwns after the fact.
Can't wait to hear this crazines
22:37. Casually, she talks about _cleaning up after having sex_ - to a police officer (a male, a complete stranger) in the same tone as 'you know, like how we make sure our kids brush their teeth after meals' - and all because of some lights going on and off in a house late at night!
It um, cough, kinda gives us a window into her mindset, dunnit. ;))
"Maybe they were necking!" Lol. That was so bizarre! I'm so glad you caught that!
That was very cringe
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If _you're_ glad, I'm honored.