I Used Every 2023 Desktop Mac: Here's What I Learned
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- Going over all every major desktop Mac release in 2023 (2023 Mac Mini, 2023 Mac Studio, 2023 iMac) after long-term experience with each!
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Join me, as I explore 2023's Apple desktop lineup: the refreshed M3 iMac, the new M2 Pro Mac Mini, and updated Mac Studio with the M2 Max. Discover the highs and lows of each model in my hands-on review. Perfect for those deciding between these Macs or just curious about their performance. 🍏💻
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00:00 | Intro
01:45 | 2023 Mac mini (M2 Pro)
04:16 | 2023 Mac Studio (M2 Max)
06:45 | 2023 iMac (M3)
08:34 | Final Thoughts
#Apple2023 #TechReview #DesktopMacs - Věda a technologie
Nice review. I had a Mac Mini M1 with 16GB and 1TB HD. It got sluggish if I pushed it with video or I did a lot of intensive apps at the same time. I waited on a refurbished M1 Ultra with 64GB of RAM and 1TB of disk space. It does not disappoint. The big advantage of the Ultra is you have more everything x2 plus Thunderbolt ports on the front.
I always drop a nice mat on my desk to put monitors and computers on. It gives the mouse better response without a pad and it keeps me from scratching the desk. It also prevents my desktops from slipping when plugging things in.
Thanks for the honesty and detail.
Cheers
I enjoyed the video, thanks. I'm looking at the M2 pro Mini 16gb, I hope I can wait for Apples updates & new machines.
Great summary, thanks. And super smooth segues :)
Nice video as always Kyle, wondering what lens you are using for your b-rolls?
Thanks for the awesome comparison video. I am personally looking forward to the latest Mac Studio in 2024.🤞
Great info! 👍
Hi Kyle, & Happy New Year! Thanx for the video! I was wondering if I could have your thoughts on which desktop mac to buy. I currently have an old MacBook Pro 2012 (16gp & 512gb ssd + 512gb hdd (replaced the dvd drive with this - store only photos & videos) & it’s slowly dying on me. Bluetooth keeps disconnecting and doing rendering, regardless of size in Adobe AI, it takes forever, plus I can’t get any of the latest updates for software.
I wish to get a mac that would be powerful enough for Adobe AI 3D imaging and larger illustrations, photo editing in Adobe LR & PS, and running the other Adobe Suite apps, as I learn to use them.
I was waiting for the m3 chip, but now I just can’t wait any longer, as the slowness of my beloved Macbook Pro is driving me insane. I am pondering should I get the Mac mini M2 - 8 CPU/10GPU 24GB / 512GB SSD (€1439) (1TB SSD is +€230); or Mac mini Pro M2 10CPU/16GPU 32GB / 512GB SSD (€2059) (1TB SSD is +€230). The Mac Studio starting price in Finland is €2449.
There is a huge price difference in the options. So my question is, if you were me, what Mac would you get & with what specs? I’m a hobbyist, so not my main source of income. Right now I can’t even create a pivot table in Numbers, as can’t upgrade the app 😂
What would be your recommendation? I’m happy to put in the money, if need be, but I’d rather not, if not necessary. Or, do I get the base modal 8GB/256GB for the time being and wait for the M3 to arrive, which we have no idea when, but I can’t wait until then to buy a new mac. All input is appreciated & thanx in advance:
Nice review
Hey Kyle, any thoughts or experiences with dust with the mac studio?
my old 2021 mini is hooked up to a really nice 27" screen and is working very well
I don’t need any of the products, but I like listening and watching you very much. Thanks for the content/effort
Is M2 Mac mini base model enough for 4K 60fps for an hour long video on Adobe Premiere?, Thanks for the video
Great video. I have the M1 Mac mini and love it. Handles most editing on FCP, but I do have the 16GB ram and 1TB memory. I would really appreciate if apple made the memory cheaper, 4TB would support a good 5 years of heavy use.
You run most of your software off your external ssd? Do you have a video on how to do that? I have a 256gb M1 iMac with 16ram, and I’d like to get Capture One pro. Thank you 🙏
Honestly looking at my late 2012 imac any of these would be a good move for me 😅, but I'm tempted at the idea of waiting for a mini m3.
Same I'm still on a late 2013 imac
I’m just going to hang on to my iMac late 2012… although I have a new MacBook. My iMac has been reliable computer.
@@alejandrito8151 I had a 2013 iMac and the video card ended up dying on me around 2021, got a 2015 5k refurb ( which was a nice upgrade for the 5k alone) and held out for a 27in M series iMac that never came. Ended up getting the iMac M3 and got used to the size within a few hours.
The Studio and Max stuff are overkill generally.
There is nothing they can do that the iMac can't. If people were editing video, producing music, doing photo editing, etc. all on IMac's with less power before, then can still do it now, especially since the M Series chips are on another level compared to the Intel ones they succeed.
I went from a 2013 MacBook Pro to a 2022 Mac Mini and the upgrade was huge for me.
@@PromotingTheBeat"If people were editing video, producing music, doing photo editing, etc. all on IMac's with less power before, then can still do it now, ..." - 8k video editing really needs more than the old Intel iMacs. Also, large music productions running many plugins can really use up a lot of memory, more than the iMac can offer. Same with working with very large images in Photoshop.
Been looking at Mac Mini for a while, but in your video you talk about rendering graphics in which I forgot cause I would like to do some 3D stuff with Fusion 360. So the Mac Studio might be a the winner for me.
Enjoying my M2 Max Studio and Studio Display as an upgrade from a 2017 iMac...
Got one too! it's so good and easily able to do any task. Runs Blender perfectly not once needed to use fans, unreal engine 5 runs solid too.
What stand did you buy for the monitor and the speakers? or did you build it yourself
My boss in my new job is going to get me a mac, I'm a graphic designer and will be using photoshop, illustrator and video editing and not very intensive 3d he wants me to choose which one. I was thinking mac studio 2m max, with 38 core, 64 gb ram, 1 tb hard drive. You guys think that will powerful enough? Thanks in advance
Full support from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 keep up brother
Watched all your videos before buying the Mac mini m2 pro, so good
Did you end up buying it? I am on the fence with it
@@TradingToFreedom yup, had it since last year august and its been just as he described
iMac 27'' would be the greatest update
Actually, a 30” or 32” iMac Pro would be…
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I'm using my M1 iMac with 16g/ram for everything from software development to video production and it works flawlessly and its built in 4.5k retina display is stunning to look at and easy on the eyes. Gotta love it.
Does it ever feel too small? I’ve been using a MacBook Pro 16 with triple monitors and recently went to an ultra wide and even that feels small right now lol
@@Watchandlearn91 Nope.
@@catwhisperer911 you do software development too right? What about when you have a backend system in an IDE, a front end in an IDE, and chrome open with the web app and you want to see them all? Plus a few terminals. I am genuinely curious of how you manage as I’ve always wanted to go to one screen
@@Watchandlearn91 My development environment consists of iTerm2 and Neovim. iTerm2 supports multiple tabs with multiple panes and imho no other terminal even comes close. Neovim is both minimalistic and extremely powerful and I have it tuned in to exactly how I like to edit and read code. I also use Zellij for its remote session management when connecting to remote servers. When working with GUI apps I rely on Rectangle for Mac window management. It is free but hits way above its price point. There was a time when I insisted on working with 2 monitors but I found myself constantly having to turn my head hundreds of times a day and not only was that distracting but it was also physically challenging after a while. Using one monitor with good window management solves all the problems for me and has allowed me to increase my productivity.
12/24/23 Thanks for the review on both the i Mac mini and the 24" i Mac. I have been putting off upgrading my 2011 21" i Mac and my 2011 i Mac mini with Intel Duel chips. The release of the M3 chip was my reason to wait and I was watching several peoples reviews getting more confused as Apple offered to many upgrades at high prices and to many videos on just specs and performance comparisons without showing every day use pros and cons in the real world where your review focused on a year of usage as to how a user feels using the devices. The thing I like about the Intel i Macs was more ports, SD slots, being able to physically memory upgrade was cheaper with after market than Apple's a la cart menu, and of course not having a DVD drive. All got features that made an Apple computer more worth buying. I like to see you review the i Mac 3rd party add-ons for storage bases with added ports, fast aftermarket memory chip and holders that add the features Apple charges a lot for or removes ports or connectors on.
my mac mini's 2012 and 2014 thought they were both dead. Bought M2 Mini and love it. Just spent 4 hours fixing the old ones and now they both work, now I have 3 working mini's crazy.
How much You want for one of those shits ?
@@user-ep7el6vt7o not selling them
Kyle, I really enjoy your videos. They are straight and to the point without too much time spent on specks. I'm much more about the user experience and how to best make that work. To answer your question about what I would like to see... If I were Tim I would instruct my team to create the best ever iMac. It would be a 32" display with all the latest speck hardware that skimp on nothing. The Damn camera would be 1080P at very least! The ram would start at 16G and the hard drive would start at a 1/2 Terabyte! Projected starting price would be $1700! Keeper!! Oh and the monitor would be able to be used as an external monitor for anything you hook up to it!! And one more thing... It would have a built in KVM switch so you could just hook up my work laptop to it and go to town!! There you have it! Merry Christmas!!
I'd get one!
I'd love to discuss with you. Don't know how to make that happen. Do you need my email?
I think the base Studio makes a great case for itself especially in M2 form, though you do need to upgrade the drive or go external. Naturally the M3 models of both will be interesting
I just got the M3 MacBook Pro that replaced my M1 Mac Mini. More computer than I need but it future-proofed me.
AppleVision Pro with M2+R1 processors. Though, surprised it seems like it is not going to be offered with an M3…
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What’s the name of that external hard drive you have, Just bought a M3 MacBook Pro I would love to have that external hard drive 1 TB is not enough
It looks like a Zikedrive, you can get the same fast chipset in the recent satechi usb4 enclosure as well as one of the new Hyperdrive models.
Is it OK to use the cuttable anti slip shelf mats under the units? I was thinking it would solve the sliding issue. Rubber feet would be nicer, but until that happens maybe an anti slip mat?
can't see why not!
That was funny to see step brothers playing on the iMac. What a great movie 😂
I've had a 1terabite installed n my 2008 i mac some years ago when hard drive crashed. I really hate new parts can't b installed with the software upgrade . I believe apple should consider asking customers about what their consetns and suggestions are before new machines are built. This really sucks
I wish Apple would re make the 27" mac with card reader and cd/dvd drive. Iv had mine for 10 years and love it but it kills graphic cards every 2 or 3 years. Its now getting harder to find a replacement graphics card so looks like i need to upgrade. Tempted by the m2 mini pro as i have a 27" gaming monitor that would look good on the desk.!
New M3 Studio and Pro this spring is a must for professionals and higher end creators. an M3 MacBook Air, the sooner the better.
What website did you use to compare the benchmarks?
I run my own benchmarks
Hey Kyle, wanted to ask you about using external drives with Macs. Do they need to be ejected after every use or can they be left mounted at all times? I am asking because sometimes I experience "disk not ejected properly" once the Mac wakes back up from sleep. Is this normal assuming the drive, cable and usb ports are not defective?
Assuming you've got your drive directly connected to your Mac, here is what's likely happening with that - Your mac is going to sleep and reducing power to external accessories, and your external drive no longer has enough power to run, causing it to eject or unmount itself. What I personally do to alleviate this is use a powered hub or dock alongside the Mac, that way my drive isn't dependent on getting it's power from the machine.
If you don't want to use something like that, I would probably either eject it manually or find a tool to automate that process before it sleeps.
@@KyleErickson Thanks for your detailed reply. Would you apply this protocol to both MacBooks and Mac desktops since Mac desktops are always on power? Also if the computer is reducing power to the drive and that message pops up, is it as if you just unplugged the drive without ejecting?
Also regarding the Samsung T7, this seems to be a non issue. The drive seems to stay mounted when the Mac is asleep even when closing the lid. When the Mac wakes back up it seems to stay mounted and I don’t get that error message. Can you let me know what your experience is with the T7? I had a G-Drive that would improperly eject when left mounted on both my Mac mini and my MBP and so therefore I would get that error message.
that G drive probably uses a lot more power, causing it to cut out due to lack of power required where the T7 may satisfy those requirements. If it's on a MacBook you can also head to Settings, and under battery, click the options button, and there are some options for putting your disks to sleep you can play around with. May or may not help.
@@KyleErickson I actually contacted WD and went through some troubleshooting. They’re issuing me a replacement because all the problems I had seemed to have been with that G drive regardless of computer, cable or using a dock or not. Thanks for your replies.
I can say with my personal usage the iMac can do all pro tasks and not just everyday tasks. If we all recall what the M1 could do well then it’s simple the M3 can do it all. Be careful basing purchases off “pro” users or people who get review products from apple.
Very direct and honest
The iMac is still the big
Bargain.
And my heart is with the mini
They sure need to sell a
Rubber base to keep it
On any surface.
Waiting for the Mac mini M3 Pro if it is 30% faster than the M2 Pro. If not, I will wait for the M4 Pro
Wow I was looking at desktop macs and have been talking to people for a bit about it. Google is super creepy.
Thanks for the video. I'm not done watching yet, but I keep wondering if new Apple silicon iMac is useful for me better than having a monitor for my stacked MBP. So video like this helps me a lot.
I’m waiting for the M3 Mac mini.
Agreed. Hopefully the next Mac Mini in 16gb/256gb configuration will still be affordable. It is easy enough to add your own external SSD drive, and much cheaper too.
What about the base model? Is that ok?
Imac
Thank you, for your excellent long term review comments of Apple's three (3) main desktop computer systems. For anyone new to Apple computers, I always recommend they start with an All-in-One system. Today, that would be a colorful 24-inch M-3 iMac. Also, I would suggest at the time of purchase they order the longer keyboard (with the number pad) and the track pad. Trust me, there is nothing like starting your journey as an Apple desktop user with a complete system. Since, I prefer the smaller size and form factor of the "mac mini" Pro models. I would like to see Apple, Inc. add an SD card reader to the front of the "mac mini" similar to the "Mac Studio". In addition, it would be be nice if Apple, Inc. also added back the IR sensor (that they removed with the M-1 "mac mini") to the front so, I could again control the "mac mini" with my white Apple remote control (smile...smile).
In 2024 it makes more sense for Apple to release the M3 Air and Mac Mini in the Spring and then the M3 Studio and Pro either at WWDC or early fall. Then, here comes M4…
M3 is quite impressive, from the Mac perspective. But when compared to the latest cpus from AMD or Intel, or the latest graphics from AMD or NVidia, M3 is rather mediocre.
For gaming or Blender or Maya, a Ryzen PC with RTX 4090 is a monster!
What do you with so many apple devices because you can only use one at a time?
I usually don't keep them all - I switch between them as my main device long enough to give long term thoughts and sell them
@@KyleErickson :) I am now leaning towards cleaner set up too with one monitor and during my injury when I am bed ridden for 8 weeks I have been using Mac. Prior to this I Was a windows user. I am thinking of switching to all Mac and your cleaner set up with one screen and docked Mac Pro is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
My first M series Apple device was the base M1 Mac mini. I upgraded to the base M1 Studio Max when it was released and it's been my daily driver ever since, and I haven't seen the need to upgrade to the M2. I transitioned from the Windows desktop world and had good peripherals so I've never tried an iMac.
Would love to see an M3 Mini, with a base of 16GB of RAM…🤷🏻♂️
Nice video.
Apple's 3 best Mac products for the middle class are the MacBook Air, the Mac Mini, and the iMac. The first 2 are my favorite from the Apple's line of products. 2023 with the regular M2 Mac Mini was great value after bumping up the specs to 16/512 configuration. It only costs $999 without the student discount. Adding a 27-inch QHD monitor and the other accessories, it can get up to $1,400. Great value all-around for a family or someone working from home (assuming the job uses MacOS friendly software).
Hopelessly hoping for a Smaller form factor Mac Pro , fully upgradable , failing that a Space Black Mac Studio with M3 built for cosmic take off .
Apple no longer believes in 'upgradable' Macs. The current Mac Pro will not accept a PCI-Express video card, and it will also not work with an external GPU attached via Thunderbolt.
I can't wait to see if the M3 Max gets dropped in the Studio. The benchmarks show that the 16c M3 Max is equally as powerful in CPU performance as the M2 Ultra. I hope the Mini and Studio get the new Space Black color too.
I currently have a m1 MBA 8/256 that I share with my wife and kids. Looking to get another computer next month, but I dont know if I should get another MBA or a desktop. I kinda like being able to take the laptop around the house, but desktops have more power.
2023 Mac Pro: Am I a joke to you?
The base iMac is the recommendation for all of us who are "tech support" for our parents!
Thanks for the video - good comparison.
All the reviewers point out how good each model is at different tasks - video editing, developing, graphics, etc - but for me, the big takeaway from Apple Silicon, going right back to the M1, is that all of the computers can do pretty much everything - base models & early processors just take longer. I have an M1 iMac, and an M1 Pro 14" MacBook Pro; and not being a professional anything (retired, in fact), I can see myself keeping both of these for a very long time.
True, Macs with M1/M2 are very good for most things.
But for 3D modeling with Blender or Maya, or for playing the latest games, M2 or even M3 are far behind a recent Windows PC at the same price point.
Still want an m3 pro iMac. Otherwise I’m happy with my m1 iMac
I hope Mac Studio gets refreshed in 2027 because I just bought one.
WiFi speed on computers that can be configured with 10Gb Ethernet is largely irrelevant.
going through 2 Macbooks I think they are wastes of money imo compared to desktops. If you need to be mobile I would always go pc for that.
The slippery bottom on Macs are a feature. It makes it easy to slide the computer around. When I had an iMac, this made it easier to turn it around the whole computer to plug and unplug devices. This is Apple's way of allowing the computer to rotate horizontally without an unnecessary mechanism. However, small, inexpensive rubberized feet can easily modify this feature. I love my Mac Studio. It's the best computer Apple's ever made.
Mac Studio is best computer ever?
Maybe you forget the intel-based iMac Pro or Mac Pro. They both had much more powerful graphics than Mac Studio, and you could easily upgrade or replace the RAM too. Also, intel-based Macs had Boot Camp, so 1000's of Windows apps would run perfectly and at full speed.
27" or larger iMac.
Not gonna happen I’m afraid.
agreed Apple makes most of its Mac $$$ from notebooks.@@davidjacobs6244
This 8g ram scam is getting irritating, what year is this for Pete’s sake?
It's 2024, is Pete in trouble?
I have 7 macs: 4 macbook air m2 (16RAM) (all colors), macbook pro m3 (16RAM), mac mini m1 (16RAM)+ apple display, macbook air m1 (16RAM). I tell you one: they all are fantastic and fast (i'm a programmer). And they all are totally EQUALLY fast. No difference in everyday apps, code compiling, running etd. None. I checked it many times. The only difference is screen size and that's all
NO ONE should buy Mac Pro?!?
You’ve just INSULTED 5 people on the planet 🌎
😂
Apple would be Stupid to Not upgrade the Studio in early spring 2024. I want to buy a studio but I am not buying an M2 when M3 chips are sitting right next to it and I know Apple is just artificially holding them back. no M3. no sale. their loss.