Life As An Illegal Immigrant in Greece
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Greece has always been a gateway for immigrants searching for what they assumed would be a better life in Europe. But many of those who've crossed illegally into Greece have found that they have traded one bad situation for another. Refugees from war-torn countries like Syria and Afghanistan are finding themselves stuck in a country that is not only battling an economic crisis but is witnessing a rise in anti-immigrant violence, exemplified by the a nationalist political party known as the Golden Dawn.
VICE News' Alex Miller travelled from Athens to the western port of Patras to find out what it is like to be trapped in a country you never wanted to be in in the first place.
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Since when has Pakistan been a war zone from which people must flee for their lives?
The pakistans have built up their reputation by them selves. In sweden many of they say they have 5 Id. So they can use them in EU. And then got 5 pensions. In England they are famous for grooming. Thats the reputation. I'm not impressed.
@@ingridarvidsson7597 funny, in Denmark the Pakistanis are better educated than the locals, albeit a bit conservative when it comes to religion, they seem to integrate pretty well. I think with this group of people, integration is heavily controlled and influenced by local mosques.
hej yes exactly. Same in Canada. Pakistanis are rich business people and extremely educated doctors, engineers etc. But that doesn’t stop some xenophobic white conservative Christian from hearing a few cases and making a generalization about millions of people. Bit like saying white men fondle children
@@5aturnia You just made a xenophobic comment about white conservative christian lol. You are part of the problem.
@@a.t.2023 how was that xenophobic? He was just saying the attitude certain people from one group of people have towards another group of people.
Strange how these immigrants are always innocent martyrs.
Ted Striker Indeed. They go from one place to another, even a country who's economy has collapsed on itself and expect golden treatment. I'm sorry, they were better off staying in their home-nations.
+Ted Striker and u are in idiot
*****
75% of them are grown men, mostly between 20 and 30 years of age. They shout Allahu akbar and start riots in Europe. What the fuck are these non-Europeans doing on ourt continent? Why would we pay for them to come here and colonize our land with their numerous offpspring, and then demand we adapt to them, while we slowly die out? I want every last one of them deported.
*****
See, I know a lot about Islam, so don't even try teaching me what 'allahu akbar' means. As your comment progresses, it becomes more bizarre and racist. I can see you are in fact a Muslim.
*****
Why are you still here, Muslim troll?
On a train to a port on Greece 3 immigrants jumped into the train.A lady conductor was going around checking everyone's tickets.The immigrants witnessed this.When she came to them ,they accused her of racism.She asked why was that ?They replied that she is checking their tickets but not the whites .Anyway they had no tickets.She asked them to get off the train and while they were leaving they persisted in their defiance.They stood outside the coach and turned up the humble tone about how poor they are and how they need to get to the port.She quickly replied that they could sell their iphones xs max and come back and pay their fare.They reviled at her.All 3 had iphones xs max.
Fair play to the lady . Lots of them are just taking the piss and abusing the good will of many Europeans
As i migrant in another country myself i have always carried a good phone no matter how bad the situation is as it is my lifeline but also because i communicate with family quite often and cheap phones have often not good reception and not good enough processing power for videoconferencing and other apps. above all having a long lasting battery is esential as most of us spend most of the day at work
I can't beleive how at age 82 and been at work since 1956 i managed untill the 90 s without a mobile phone or a computer. To listen to these young guys talk without a mobile they are totally lost in life.I have never been out of work since 1956 till retire in 2004 and often did 2 jobs, but did not have a mobile.😮
@@John-ob7dh you have one now!!
@@nick63837 took 50 years before I got it.
I'm sorry but I can't see anything wrong with wanting to keep Greece, Greece. The entire world doesn't have to become america.
Greeks can be black too.
@@tracycy1084 Technically not. They can be Greek citizens, but their roots and heritage are not Greek.
@@zoey8430 do you believe everything you've bren told.
Tracy Hb It’s just facts. It’s in our DNA. Hence how ancestry and 23& me works. Of course those born in Greece of non-Greek heritage are considered Greeks and are welcomed, but Technically- they aren’t. It’s not a racist statement at all so please don’t take it that way.
@@tracycy1084... Blacks can never be greeks.. Gtfoh...
I have a question. Why all these muslim immigrants do not go to the rich states from the Gulf (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait or even Iran)?!?
Because I hear all the time and read all over the place that the muslims are all brothers and they care about each other and BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! So, why they did not go there to live with the rest of their muslim brothers?????????
the oil-rich states won't let them in
and they're doing that on purpose to let this virus spread around the world
@@eatshrots Good point
Bcz the guverments don't help.....they have power and work for other side.
Cause Greek fake democrats politics Actually PAY these countries to send those ilegal immigrands.So for these fake democrats is much more easier to destroy our fatherland.Thats why.
The nations of Europe cannot afford to absorb the vast numbers of immigrants seeking residence. Europe is currently suffering economic calamity. Europe has too many immigrants as is. They cannot take in more.
But you can't deport them all. People should rather start trying to integrate the immigrants into society. Where I live immigrants have no rights, don't get supported by the government and are not allowed to work. If Euope continues like that the problem won't ressolve and the situation will just get worse and worse in the next few years.
Jo L
Yes, they can be deported. Look at how Israel handled it''s immigration problem. Don't give any bs about how it can't be done: it can be, quite easily, there only exists a lack of political will.
James Edmonds
Prisons are too costly. It would only further burden the already over-taxed taxpayers.
ThePintsizeslasher Are you seriously comparing Israel with Europe? One is a country ( a small one, too) and the other is a whole continent. Just look at the US they have fences and guards all over the place and yet 800 people succesfully cross the border every day! I don't say that we shouldn't try to stop the flood of immigrants, but there also should be measures taken to integrate them, like I said. Otherwise you will have huge amounts of very poor people living in your country and probably a big problem with violence.
James Edmonds If you were a good christian, then you shouldn't think that way
Irony is people who are illegal migrating to any country talks about rights law and order .
yeah. breaking into a country in massive numbers, and costing the local economy huge financial damage is a type of violence too.
they dont listen, they dont care. they dont respect the local community.
im coming into your country, im using the infrastructure you paid for, and im not paying tax for anything. i know you dont want that, so ill sneak in by night.
but you're the criminal.
You don’t allow someone into your house who refuses to respect your rules.
That would be insane.
Does anyone do a criminal background check before they are let loose in Europe?
Why would immigrants make the situation even worse for their country and their family by going to Europe, only for better personal welfare? Why don't they just improve their own country, instead of trying to immigrate to a European country that is already on it's knees due to bad economy and mass immigration?
Well said sir.
Jesus Christ Do I get to go to heaven now, mr Jesus?
Yepp, only 20,000 Euros, want my bank number ? Haha
Jesus Christ The rate has gone up, probably need to immigrate to Switzerland to make it happen.
kr0pp good question, my tought is that they country is probably as corrupt as i gets by the so called leaders. the election's they have are a joke always some shit that goes down so the same leader that everyone seems to hate won the election by a 80% of the votes it just smells corruption all over the place. so a normal person in the street cant make a difference on how the government run stuff in the country. so i bet they dont see another way to get a better life to immigrant to whatever seems better than their current country, hell i dont blame them i'd prolly do the same if i was in their shoe's im glad i live in a country like norway.
so i'm just gonna march into someone else's home, set up camp and demand to be treated well even tho they can barely feed themselves. Then I'll be shocked when they treat me like crap and want me out
are you going to save their economy and provide them the means to buy a nice beach house also? While living in a piece of plastic in their backyard barely big enough to sleep in? just wondering
no because it's not my job to take care of someone else and I don't expect them to take care of me
frogwart70 do some research on how much of that prime Greek property is owned by foreigners from other EU counties, the UK and the US. Will shock you. Greece has been used as much as these slave labourers.
Greek politicians sold out the nation for the benefit of some bankers and industrialists, nothing more
well they still rake in the tax money from those foerigners so it really doesnt matter who owns it....frankly they probably make more money since they can spend it in the local economy
Thank you for spreading basic logic , ignorant fake liberals like vice think they have the right to accuse and destroy the reputation of our country.
I feel bad for Greece. Even though they are a developed nation, the current economic situation simply cannot cope up with the mass immigration. Stay strong Greece 🇬🇷.
Shouldn’t be neo Nazis or in the EU
Have u seen Africa
stay strong Greece..Despite the hardship they should protect the migrants with dignity..I would never travel to that country..They don't want migrants there but having them producing crops for them without proper housing..They are treated worst than animals and stealing their livelihoods..They have families too..Mother fuckers!!
Actually not well developed in comparison to Western Europe and the tiger economies in Asia.Greece is really a mess.Many of the roads you see in Athens were built just before the 2004 Olympic ganes .Greece is really behind in many respects.. so yes they can't cope well with more
Did you make it to the part were they talk about how the previous economic boom was in part do to these migrants?
This kind of journalist are sooooo unprofessional. Can't even call him a journalist but simply propagandist.
The dog barks where it eats
Sponsored by Soros.Lies lies lies
Aww looks like someone didn't agree with someone else's point of view, maybe you'll be safer in your little bubble
BTW Javed Aslam 2:19 is wanted in his own country for human trafficking.He should be in prison for breaking so many laws in Greece.
Is your ass the reference?
YOU'RE A HELLBOUND LIAR. VIDEO OR NEWS ARTICLE MISSING BUD!
I wonder what they expected when they are illegal immigrants...
***** Yeah lol
Beartooth!
***** Human rights.
TheBaronofBallstein Whoa, are you trying to say there's people that don't deserve any rights?
***** Unsure how more people without jobs will help greece in any way, shape or form. Unless help means suck more money from the country and make it worse off.
import the 3rd world become the 3rd world, simple.
Do colonialism, you get a third world...
GrueLemur Austria a 3rd world country? Get a clue, moron
Greeks are already living like a 3rd world , millions of them are fleeding to Germany and France so there is nothing special about Greece
GrueMA How is Austria a third world country?
chupy35 Saudi Arabia colonised all these Arab and Muslim countries lol
Nigerian accent ~ “Greece does not want black peepull in Dey country”.
Good he understands the situation. Now the next course of action is for him to be repatriated to Nigeria.
very provocative video
I'm Greek and i saw only the pro-immigrant political parties saying their opinion about the issue.
The problem is european not greek.
So when are we going to solve the immigration problem , when we will become Syria?
The problem is, Greece doesn`t even have enough to feed its own people at this point, and a regular Greek citizen is just trying to survive day to day, if you aren`t happy with the country, JUST LEAVE
They wanted to leave but can’t. They got nowhere to go
No one wants to live in Greece!!!!! They want to go uk or any another country Greece only a station
@@mudathirg yes but they get stuck in Greece.
Maybe they can try the Bulgarian route ;)
Hunger is not a problem in Greece...
@@nikolasmacedonites917 No, thanks :)
well, vice, probably should consider that no one has jobs in greece and that things are gonna get worse.
The farm owner said he offered lot of Jobs and no one took em except immigrants, this is so common, being the victim while being the fault
if you dont like greece dont come to greece....
They don't like their homelands even more.
maybe if they didnt have to leave their countries due to imperialism
@@user-rt8sh7xt1d Try making sense next time.
Yaa
Pakistan got independence in 1947. India has faired better and they also got their independence!
Im one of the few blessed 24 years old that is NOT UNEMPLOYED in Greece but Im the only one with an income in my 3 person family. They are other families in Greece where 4-5-6 people survive thanks to the pitty pension of 1 grandpa or a 600 euro salary of one of the parents. No matter how you want to make me feel bad about these people VICE it won't scratch me we didn't welcome them here and we are not supposed to help them as we have our own very serious problems.
+jimmyking92 maybe we can't help them, but it would help not to make things worse for them.
+jimmyking92 that is terrible, here in western europe it isnt much better we barely have food in the table and these migrants throw it away..
*****
might want to check into being a ''prepper'' then lots of information here on youtube..just little bit of money can make sure in hard times your family has food :)
They do the same things in immigrant centers here in Greece. They say the food isn't good and that the catering company doesn't care. They are just leeches that want to live off welfare.
when Satan knocks don't open the door. Deport those Muslims before you end up like Toronto Canada ChinaStan stinky poo poo
why don't they fix their own countries instead of running to another one?
+Kerry Cato As if it were that simple.
+Ellanios Taksidiwtis Because corruption. Just like Greece. Your country is finished. I hope all Greeks don't migrate to developed countries for opportunities.
because they want to destroy everything they touch like Medusa
Welfare
KE C because they are too ignorant.
You came illegally, forced your way into a civil society and expect to be treated like royalty. WTF?
Civil society my ass.better watch that too l hear they like arses.
My aunt was attacked and robbed by 3 Albanian thugs in mitiline Greece, she was in a coma for 3 days and thank God she is Okay. These people need to leave if they cannot live peacefully with Greek people.
Όπως το είπες αδερφέ έξω οι ξένοι από τη χώρα μας🇬🇷
I dont get it why EU wont just close the gate for immigrant's they cause work shortage for native Europeans
AlternateHistoryHub
But they can't afford to take care of them. the EU can't take these ppl in because there is no work for them. It was a mistake to try multiculturalism during this financial crisis
Sorry for my ignorance but why is the EU really bad?
playlistnation2005 That is the whole point. The EU is not the big bad wolf, it's just what people like AlternateHistoryHub blame for everything, from economic crisis to their bad morning breath.
AlternateHistoryHub Nor is mine, yet I fail to see how is that relevant?
If you're such a shitty worker that an immigrant with less skills than you can come and take your job then you're the real problem.
There all is aching
>working 8 hours a day for € 300 and later for € 250
you are saying that as if its bad
@@inkoalawetrust He means 300 euros a month then lowered to 250 a month.
Unlike them, if you want to leave you have papers. So if you feel like your life is misery and you can't change it. You can still leave
Makis Makiavelis But you don’t see the balkan people’s.
Makis Makiavelis Greece is a fascist and racist country with refugees and cheaters and negative people.
Imagine someone coming into your house uninvited while you’re at work then demanding you buy them vegan foods because they don’t like what’s in your fridge.
I dont have to imagine because this happened to us in Toronto every day.
Like Europeans when they came to all the continents? LOL
@@laabitres Well we can't blame the white man for everything then migrate to a white country it seems odd
@@antwandadon2341 Well check history, the current situation of the world is because of what happened in the colonial period so.......yeah
@@laabitres Ok what do white people today have to do with the past white people.
What I mean to say is this victim mentality needs to stop we need to focus on ourselves and our countries or peoples.
"If the government is not going to stop them how can we stop them? Who will give us justice? Who will protect us from these attacks?"
The irony...
Emidretrauqe you sound like Brenton Tarrent
look at the comments below. xenophobia, fascism. thats what vice is talking about.
You know what, i'm sorry that their lives suck. I'm sorry that they've had a hard life. But why is that always the white man's burden? I refuse to feel guilty for my history, for being successful, for belonging to a country that is organized and can take care of it's people. If they want the same, we can teach them how to build their own nation.
basically steal everyone else's shit.
Think who went to africa and the middle east and fucked them first smart ass . The white man . You are nothing you just live and they die for you . Idiot
mynameisawesomeman cuz they are lazy
Why don't you go team them how to build???
@@polmenakos really, you think america had no influence in the middle east? read some history my guy
My son who is African American and a flight attendant loves Greece. He visited Athens and fell in love with the country and its people. My former landlord here in America is a Greek man. I don't think Greeks are racist, it's just the situation they are forced into. No country can afford an influx of immigrants including my beloved South Africa. We have problems with open borders. It's draining our economy and open the doors to criminals. Moreover, Greece never colonized nobody and is trying to feed its own citizens. I hear the food is good and I will visit Athens someday.
Trust me they are racist. I live here for 15 years I came here in the age of 7 and I have noticed that the racist are the ones who are lazi to go to job who live with their parents until the go 40 y.o. and they think that the immigrants are taking their jobs.
The Greeks dont have work and many are starving, living only with help of family and the church, why do you think they object to these economic migrants
Such a biased documentary that leaves out a lot of important information about why immigration is just as big of a problem for Greece in the economy of course they always favor the side that will go with bringing Greece down further. Secondly the Greeks have gone through hardships throughout history much harder than these immigrants and to show Greece as a land of opportunity is wrong if Afghanistan is so much worse then why dont they try to help their country instead of begging to get help in another country.
Finally someone speaks the truth. My grandfather was from greece and it's so amazing and I live there today. People here arent rich and everyone still struggles much more than I thought before I moved here. The Greeks are kind but this is just too much!
R.I.P. great Greece ..
no not r.i.p greek zeus and the gods are with us so dont underrate out country dude you will see
All young..all men..all economic migrants not refugees.
Have you ever asked WHY the locals treat them this way?
Should a human being be treated like an object?
@@holymolly5810 no, never.. we get treated badly, unfortunately, it is the reality..
I love Greece my father was stationed in Athens when i was 6,7,8 i took greek in the third grade so i could talk to my friends in thier language. It really is one of the most beautiful countries in the world and look at the history. Until you know or live in another country besides where you were born do not put people or thier country down. I still love Greece. May God grant them some peace finally.
5 years later update: still long way to go here in Greece
You love Greek Gay that's why enjoy it. Angela Merkel said Greece for sale
And so it's so great you are not there. You are a complete fool.
everyone is talking about immigrants...not illegal Immigrants.
I don't get it, they are illegal so is already breaking the law. Then why are people defending people who broke the law? The law is there for the sole reason of safe guarding safety. If you don't honor it may as well just burn every books in the library.
I'm a black american and I totally agree with the people of Greece,We always blame whites for africa when it was the muslims that had the most slaves from Africa and sold out the precious continent to Europe
Flipside Nation thx for understanding
@manolios I never said that,I SAID Europeans and Africans
@manolios it's ok it happens
@manolios I do too,thank you and godspeed
Preach!!! Muslims are soo racists they make willie lynch look cool. I ve never experienced soo much prejudice,looks and stare and comments than when I was working in a Muslim restaurant. The wife didn't want to hire me even though i had all the certificates to handle food,she only hired Muslim women and they all didnt know how to do the job well. Her husband was the one who called me back and offer me the job. Everyone quit after working there i qas the only one left. I learnt soo much about there culture and it was not fun. I am truly afraid for their women.
I don't understand this, you can't invite yourself into a country and except that countrys benefits if it's not your homeland. Either find work in your own country or just stay in your country and don't ruin someone else's.
Yes they can when Greece can pay back the DEPT To the EU. Pay the money back to EU and go to hell
@@samkitanohachioji9560 You can go to hell first, you arrogant, uneducated villager
You are not capable of reasoned debate then?
I’m from Pakistan and still don’t understand why they are leaving their country , spending a lot of money to get to Europe to work in such conditions
I love Greece...went on vacation there and saw the beautiful islands but I needed a PASSPORT to do so.
Exactly! That's how you are supposed to go to a country! With a passport! If Greece wanted to they could EVEN kill them (Of course that's not a good thing and well done to Greece for not doing it) But Greece is being too nice by not even sending them back to Turkey (Where they crossed to get to Greece)
And after vacation you took airplane to come back to your home in a safe country.
You can be proud of yourself understanding all different problems people in Greece, Italy etc as well as refugees from different countries are facing.
Refugees need passports, then your life is going right way again.
Your comment is a typical one racists are using- "the law has to be respected", "I don't have anything against those people, BUT...", "they are taking away our jobs" etc etc- it's tiring!!
@@benwsc6734 so the law is racist what are you drug dealer beside uneducated?😅
Repel them please. There should be a rule: don't come if you are not invited.
So, go home.
Greetings from Poland Greekbros. Keep up the work, don't let them "enrich you" because after that they won't be as nice to you as you were to them. And I'm talking chopped off heads and burned Churches here.
Am sure you are the devil watching what's coming your way for being an evil ass.
@@meacomefeyou what? Shut up dumbass.
Illegals can only expect abuse wherever they may go. It is the essence of being illegal.
Very good, smart comment. If you have an illegal status you are in high danger losing your life.
In every country worldwide hurt, abused or killed people with no identity card, health insurance to name only 2 documents, have no rights, no support by authorities.
Because this "life" is that tempting so many people are "deciding" to become illegal- sarcasm off
Legal, illegal, refugees, migrants, travelers,.... we are talking about HUMANS, is this so hard to understand for all scared racists??
When you show up into a country and you are not invited , bad things happen.
Happening soon in a U.S. town near you.
This has been going on in the U.S. for 60 years and our government basically ignores the problems it causes and even encourages them to keep coming.
Greece doesn't owe their illegal immigrants a damned thing and neither does the U.S.
Times are tough everywhere. It sucks that they think someone else will take care of them better than their own people will.
Yes when you are illegal, when you are unregistered and "Do not exist" how can someone take care of you? That's what these liberals and lefts don't understand. They are blaming Greece, US and other countries but in reality you can't go to a random husband and wife and go to them by force and force them to adopt you and take care of you. This is the same thing!
Where the hell do you live in the US? No problems where I am--we have all different kinds of people from all over.
@@blackcitroenlove Antifa will stop them anyway.
The difference is no one's coming out and beat them up in the streets during the recession.
As someone going through legal migration and is still waiting 10 years in for my turn, I can't say that I empathize much with illegals, more so since they clog up the system well enough that it affects the applications of legal migrants. I understand why they do it, it's just weird that they're supposedly treated worse in the countries they encroach on than their home countries but still refuse to return.
Australian prime minister Turnbull said:
“It is not compulsory to live in Australia. If you find Australian values, you know, unpalatable, then there’s a big wide world out there and people have got freedom of movement”.
He is a man with backbone and a sane mind. Not like the foolish liberal European leaders
Biased report.
god bless GREECE
He created the world not just Greece please stahp
@@meanybeanys it's actually Greece that created the world
@TeeTauntYen no democracy mathematics astronomy medicine engeeniring physics history theater. They are all studies created by Greeks.
@TeeTauntYen I would like to know when Egypt actually had any democracy
If they are not granted asylum, they are free to leave the country. What kind of a "slave" is free to leave at any time?
I worked for an anachist in the 80 's in Greece when there was no work in the UK because of Maggi thatcher and all i can say we were well looked after by the Greek people,
I always hear these "stories" but what i experience first hand is completely other way around..
May Greece & our world be free from terrorrists & suffering like this
Nice try vice, but this isnt fooling anyone worth a damn
God Bless Greece🙏🙏🙏
Which God?
Greece filed for bankruptcy between 2010 and 2012. There is no way they could afford migrants or refugees for that matter. That is insane!
The proletarian workers of Greece need to rise up and overthrow thier oppressors!
When I have enough money to pay for a plane ticket I will travel there and try to help in any way I can.
Solidarity to the immigrants of Greece! Liberation will be yours!
*When I graduate high school
ftfy
greece shouldnt allow those people in to start with.
James Edmonds they can't! The EU doesn't allow them
EliteNoob EU LOL.
Yeh mate the EU is shit.
I do not think that the events in Manolada are the norm for workers who are illegal immigrants in Greece. Many people from Pakistan and Bangladesh earn 30 euros per day and they pay nothing for shelter and food. Why ? Because they prefer to stay in their bosses warehouses and send all the money to their countries. I feel really depressed when people behave to people like animals or even worse but lets face it, it was their choice to enter illegal in to a country without a job, insurance or even knowing some basic english. As far as people which countries (UK, USA) supported wars in Afghanistan or Iraq and now they feel really bad for these poor people and blame Greece (which of course has its own mistakes) the fact is that i never saw big massive anti-war protests taking place there. In fact most of these people were just watching the news (like the war is a soap opera) and then back to their typical materialistic way of life.
Nothing like a British guy going to another country and complaining about the exploitation of immigrants. The British had the common decency of traveling to other people's countries to exploit them economically instead of waiting for them to come over.
"Life As An invader in Greece" - fixed it for you !
maybe do some research before you choose the country to migrate to...
if they are coming by sea it is not their fault where they end up... EU law states that once rescued/intercepted the people are sent to the country who has search and rescue jurisdiction of that area of sea... and they cannot be sent back to their country of origin (known as non refoulment)
"this young guy" refering to a man grown ass adult with grey beard. k.jpg
Glad to see some Greeks in here speaking out against this bullshit.
God speed.
You dont have the right to force your way into a country and displace the people living there
No nation can survive without laws. Migration will always exist and needs to exist but even that can get out of hand. Disagreement over the levels of immigration is not racism, bigotry or even xenophobia but rather meaningful questions on how societies can absorb migrants at levels that are beneficial to both immigrant and their host society. One of the biggest issues with the politics of mass migration is that one political party benefits because it is a source of new voters that come at the expense of others and of course the media never has a meaningful discussion on the negatives of illegal mass migration.
:C the world is fucked up ....
nice propaganda
Notice how Greeks are protesting and trying to change things, not fleeing to germany or another country.
what happend to this beautiful country?
crisis my friend,fucking crisis from germany and other ''good'' countries
Petroleum, natural gas and gold!
aris kaa Germany responsible for the crisis of Greece? Are you fucking kidding me?
"Progressivism" and predatory capitalism
Society's ethical++ corruption going on for the last 15 years => Mismanagement => Crisis. By the way, Greece is still a beautiful country :) has problems though...
stop making babyes!! the world dont have food and work!!!
fuck u
America has enough food to feed the whole world times ten.
HangDeath If we have so much food, then why is it getting to be so expensive here? Is there an invisible glut of food somewhere that I'm not seeing?
As of 2019 population of Pakistan alone is 216.6 Million people. These are mostly uneducated people that have nothing to offer to Western society other than cheap labor. 2nd cousin marriages are very widespread in their society. Typical household in Pakistan has 6.8 people, while typical Greece household is 2.6 people. These are just facts. Muslim countries of Middle East and Africa have overpopulation problem. They are spilling out into other countries and will take over Europe in less than a decade if they don't address their inability to control their procreation.
People who said they should go back to their country clearly didn’t watch the whole video
I remember visiting one of the islands of Greece and the locals were looking at us as if we were refugees. But then realized that we were tourists because of our clothing and us taking pictures. It was a strange moment.
Greeks have bad experience from illegals mostly abduls so I am not surprised if they are like that. Look at what the abdul illegals have done to Greece.
you can't blame them.
Went to Greece for vacation. Great country, great people
I am a Greek legal immigrant to Netherlands i left Greece cause i could find a decent job as in netherlands cause all that Massive uncontrolled immigrants destroy everything pays and etc. The state doesnt protect employment in Greece and its easy for simple jobs to be ruined by desperate people. The problems lie in EE policies EE helped in wars in Iraq and Pakistan and in Afganistan. The majority of those people come from those country. EE doesnt not accept a decent distribution among EE. I DO NOT HATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BUT IF THEY PILE UP IN MY COUNTRY MY COUNTRY WILL END LIKE SYRIA
How do you think the people of the Netherlands feel... aren't you taking a job from someone there?
5:45 We dont want dinginess in here, you destroyed your homes dont destroy our homes that WE respect and created
One of the frst pakistani supposed refugees interviewed said they only came to work...
so that means they are economic migrants and not refugees..
So send them back to pakistan and give the jobs to greeks..
greeks jobs for greek workers..not economic migrants sending money home..
Wherever immigrants go the locals will always be hostile; combine that with a tragic fragile economy and you get this. The rise of the right; pretty similar to what we saw in the UK during the 70's and 80's. Racism was at an all time high and that only generated more problems. But at least those migrants were legal and had papers and access to free healthcare. Greece is much worse by far.
Ukraine is likely the next member, they are going to regret not being close to Russia! The eu RUNS Greece and the fact that Greeks aren't putting much effort to improve their lives or are very racist towards anyone that they regard as non Greek accustomed, will peddle them deeper downwards! There were a bomb blast a day before the German chancellor visited on top of that!
Wauw it's just scary to read all the comments. I just don't even know what to say, people are so harsh, but what if it was you?
I agree. I also find it hilarious how some people say "Why don't you fix your own country?". Ya like why don't they stop the genocide or ethnic cleansing through dialogue or create infrastructure from the ground up? Alot of people lack compassion.
fredguy2 I agree with you too!:) I think that the problem in cases like this is also the fact that people lack education. And with education I don't mean to say that people who have no diploma or whatever make those harsh comments.
But what I try to say is that people should educate themselve about a situation or subject before they have an opinion about it. People think that an 'opinion' means that you can say whatever you wanna say, but an 'opinion' actually needs to be based on facts and information. It's more than just saying 'go back to your own country, we don't want dirty immigrants'.
People lack education and even more important: humanity. We need to understand that it's not easy as it sounds.
I wouldn't pick greece
This is a tough issue. The immigrants are trying to escape poverty or war or both but doing this illegally in massive numbers is not exactly the answer either. They overwhelm all the country's systems, economy and order creating a chaos. This is not the way to go.
All countries have poverty. There are much poorer countries but they don't force their way to Europe en masse like its European countries' obligation to feed them for free.
I'm American and I love Greece
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I completely understand why someone would flee to get a better life, what I don't get is the people who flee, protest something in a different country.. I am completely with getting people help and living a better life, but if they go the distance of protesting in another country about their health... why not the country the migrated from? why not stay and protest in their country they migrated from??? why not try to make it a better place for their people??? that would save more lifes and help more people than simply migrating. Not being racist, just an honest thought.
Yeah right, because you would stay in places like Afghanistan and Syria to protest for better living conditions.
You are either really naive or really hypocritical.
Mrdachs88 SO let Afghanistan and Syria go to shit? you are naïve lol just let people ruin countries so others have to go away from them... just think about it before you type.
Would YOU stay there and risk your live and the live of your family?
Yeah they should be able to provide themselves and/or work hard
I mean its fucked up what Greeks are doing to immigrants but lets be fair. Before all these protests arose, back in the early 90's, after the fall of communism Greeks took in close to half a million Albanians and an shitload of people from the former U.S.S.R. From what my father tells me, is that Greeks treated him good when he left Albania. I've also heard other stories of how many refugees were beaten to death but there are always good and bad things occurring. I think Greeks don't want anymore immigrants because they already have alot. In a country with a population of 10 million, 1/10 people is an immigrant. Plus don't forget what the economic situation is like in Greece and most of Europe. Its an easy scapegoat for corrupt politicians to blame the economic situation on immigrants. I mean they took out big loans from EU and didn't put out an effective taxing system which brought all this mischief. Not to mention the fact that most jobs that these immigrants have, wouldn't even be touched by Greeks.
Note to self - don't go to Italy!
You don't know where a person's heart is until people fall upon hard times.
Somebody should do a report on migrant workers in the United States, Mexican and Cuban immigrants working on farms in California and Florida. I of course don't expect it to be nearly as bad as the conditions we saw here, but I'm sure it'd be eye-opening nonetheless.
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That's exactly what the Native peoples of America said about your ancestors... So in that case get on the boat, and get off my land sucka!!
During a crisis every country needs a scapegoat...
I don't think you understand this situation in the slightest. pseudo intellectuals man..
I love Greece and the Greeks. In South Africa there are many people of Greek descent. My friend's children attended a Greek school in Jo-burg and they are Africans but speak Greek too. Unless you've lived in other countries besides your own you'll have some compassion. I do agree that people who come to your country must be productive people who will contribute to the growth and development of the country. Free loaders I don't want whether white or black even in my beautiful country of birth South Africa. America as my country of choice took me in for what I can contribute not what I can take from it. The story of immigrants is about second chances.
maybe pakistan wants them back
Greece needs to employ a similar system to what is employed in the UAE: if you are an immigrant, you must have a job otherwise you must leave the country. Of course that would require good coordination between the immigration department and the Police, which I doubt would happen.
Mahtlahtli The UAE isn't in debt of €350,000,000 which it can't pay back. We can't afford these illegal immigrants. Also, they're illegally here, so they must go, according to law.
CyGrGuy I never said that greece should keep illegal immigrants. Im not defending that whatsoever. You were initially talking about immigrants who work in greece legally for a job.
Okay, so if Greece cant afford to give humanitarian treatment to migrant workers who work legally, then they should not be "following the UAE system" like you said in the first place. This is exactly what I ment. Greece shouldn't follow UAE's path
Mahtlahtli Why shouldn't they employ the UAE system? That way, only people contributing to the economy by working and paying taxes will benefit from social projects, like medical care. If anything it makes more sense for a country with little money.
CyGrGuy Because, like you said, Greece has enormous debt and so they would not be able to give social benefits, pay government agencies to monitor the treatment of migrants, pay for health benefits, adequate housing for the legal migrant workers. Greece can't just hire a bunch of people who have not security nets. That violates certain human rights. Workers need certain rights and social nets (whether they are citizens or not) So if greece cant pay to give them adequate treatment, then they should not hire them at all. Simple as that.
Mahtlahtli Which human rights? The right to free health care and housing? That isn't a right.
I don't get it, Greeks are not that white anyways many have a tanned complexion similar to Turks and Syrians.
That doesn't make us less of white.
@@valentinaiakovidou7594 Turks more whiter than you actually
What do you expect when you enter the country illegally and 99% of the local Greek population does NOT want you there?
And I thought illegal immigration was bad in the USA
america is blessed to have two giant oceans blocking off islamic illegal immigrants. good thing the illegal mexicans arent jihadists.
Europe has becone third world country.
14:21 Excuse me you need to look at a map. Greece is not in Central Europe, it is in Southeast Europe.
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Apparently we share borders with Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary according to this journalist
As a Greek i can say the main reason of anger is for example the sellers on the street.. they pay no taxes etc and nobody is doing anything and greeks have the IRS breathing on our neck and pay taxes and huge fines that can wipe you out for stupid reasons that are way more than the 50-60% of the profit.. you could see the IRS f...ing store owners and just out the door illigal sellers etc and the goverment was acting blind.. try not to get angry in a country with an economy like ours.... is not the people fault.. the goverment sucked back then and now
Exactly! The huge racism against the Greek people within the borders of their own country, especially whn it comes to crime, is a subject nobody wants to expose.
and now they are living better than most of greeks