Customs of Berber women long ago.
Vložit
- čas přidán 6. 10. 2016
- A French 9,5mm Pathé film to be shown on Pathé Baby home projectors showing Arab milliners and other tribes around the Mediterranean around 1920.. In reply to queries: it might well have been taken in Algeria amongst Berbers.
See my other 1080 clips by searching CZcams with 'michael rogge'
Find my photo's here: www.flickr.com/photos/1235034...
Website 'Man and the Unknown' wichm.home.xs4all.nl/
2:19 why are they saying arabic custom while those are berber people...
They are arabized, they speak darija that is why foreigners call them arab. But those customs are clearly berber.
@Ahmad Ibn Ibrahim Al Ghazi Period is between your brain cells.
They are Arabized. meaning conquered by the Arabs speak Arabic and adopted Arabic customs but they are genetically Berbers. They have done studys on North Africans and the fact is most that consider themselves Arabs are actually genetically mostly of Berber ancestry. Arabized Berbers not Arabs
@Ahmad Ibn Ibrahim Al Ghazi f-off we are not arabs go back to abu lahab
what's their costume ? its Arabic / Islamic
2:12 we are not Arabs we are imazighen ( free people)
You were. Mohamed isn't very amazigh though
@@kerime.7861 the name doesn't tell anything
@@kerime.7861 Can't believe idiots like you still exist.
@Allyredstar IDIOT
These are not Arabs they are Arabized berber
I'm from Australia but I do have my grand father who lives in south Africa he told me we have relatives from Berbers from his father's side
True ther is to many berber in Australia they toke them like slave ther iam gonna give you example iam Berber from Algeria when we been colinais by france they take ower family to new caledonia in Australia
What's ur family name of grandpa?
Gamal Nasser and africans in sahara deserts have enslaved berbers too , slavery was a curse in Africa and we africans got a payback from this mistake that was made by our ancestors
Yes France took Algerians as slaves to New Caledonia
Women used to weave their clothes in ethiopia the same way like 20 years ago :)
Yeah, ethiopians amazighs and some somalis are distant cousins and share the same haplogroup, this is because they are populated hamitic groups which all come from the same forefather
@@Imperator04 Yes Ethiopia is Cush. These are some of the darkest Africans on earth.
Im Berber ♥️♥️ i Love my cultur
Amazigh not berbar
@@douja3975 are you berber
@@you5211 yes Amazingh not berber ♓❤
The 1956 edition of the Michelin Guide devotes only a few lines to the Ouled Naïl mountain region; Djelfa is not even mentioned and the Ouled Naïl people are "mere courtesans and Oriental dancers".[6] French colonialist representations of the Ouled Naïl concentrated almost exclusively on women who temporarily left their home and settled in some nearby town.[15] However, none of the highland tribes to which they belonged were specialised in prostitution[16] and only some Ouled Naïl women became dancers. Still, the exuberance of their ornaments and the exoticism of their costumes added to the general fascination.[16]
Auguste Maure, an orientalist photographer that lived in Biskra was active from 1860 to 1907 and took many photographs of landscapes and cities of south Algeria (El Kantara, Sidi Okba, Chetma, Tilatou, Tolga, Touggourt). The female members of the Ouled Naïl tribe, wearing the traditional colorful costumes and covered by jewels, were often represented on Maure photographs which were appreciated by tourist
Bruh WE ARR NOT BERBER , BERBER MEANS SAVAGE , WE ARE AMAZIGH , AMAZIGH MEANS FREE
oh aub welk muziek nummer is dit, vooral vanaf min5.. gracias Yolanda
Love algeria 😍
Amazigh people or Berber are not Arabic, but two different nations, tis short documentary definitely does not includes Berber.
Absolutely right! In fact if anything the Amazigh people have a close affinity with the Jews. There are many Amazigh Jews ...not arabs.
@@Lagolop can u explain this, i’m skeptical because i think they came as refugees from Spain to Morocco
super
We still making the same food,,,,
the first ones to do the arabization of Berbers were french colons, they needed to divide the indigenous people to make it look like the colon are as numerous as the local population. divide to rule
She wasn't making couscous but she was preparing the frik for making chorba frik......and the other woman was breaking the dates for making Rfisss.....
It's an Arab tribe in Algeria called Ouled Nail. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouled_Na%C3%AFl
"Current research confirms that the Ouled Naïl are a highly Arabized Berber tribal society" from the link you shared. Arabized Berbers not Arabs
@@johnp760 true, women used to have berber tattoos in their face (the amazigh yaz...) well today they are called arabs because it's political, the same way Algeria is called an arab country
@@kaderkader1729 sorry but nail in amazigh means bleu and yes amazigh it's a new term berbers is ancient just like Algeria is a very new country but the race is the same ciao 😘😉
@@MayaTheCuteCat these people do have arab origin
excuse me where is this place exactly
I think this is somewhere in Algeria. These people aren't Arabs, they are Berber (amazigh) الأمازيغ/بر بر
Ouled Nail. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouled_Na%C3%AFl They are Arabs from Banu Hilal, although they mixed with Berbers.
The 1956 edition of the Michelin Guide devotes only a few lines to the Ouled Naïl mountain region; Djelfa is not even mentioned and the Ouled Naïl people are "mere courtesans and Oriental dancers".[6] French colonialist representations of the Ouled Naïl concentrated almost exclusively on women who temporarily left their home and settled in some nearby town.[15] However, none of the highland tribes to which they belonged were specialised in prostitution[16] and only some Ouled Naïl women became dancers. Still, the exuberance of their ornaments and the exoticism of their costumes added to the general fascination.[16]
Auguste Maure, an orientalist photographer that lived in Biskra was active from 1860 to 1907 and took many photographs of landscapes and cities of south Algeria (El Kantara, Sidi Okba, Chetma, Tilatou, Tolga, Touggourt). The female members of the Ouled Naïl tribe, wearing the traditional colorful costumes and covered by jewels, were often represented on Maure photographs which were appreciated by tourist
I am Naili.... and I am Arab .....our ancestors are Arabs !!!!!
I am from Boussada.....
many Berberber tribes still live the nomadic life described by Roman historians even today ,some Berbers are embarrassed by it thats why they try to mislead people with fake info
Only tuared and zenaga are nomadic, the rest in pretty much sedentary. From the taschelshit berber, to the rif berber, to be the zayane berber etc.
The only expcetion of nomadic life is the south : toureg and Zenaga(mainly in the sahara region).
Also you cna claim what ever the fuck you want, the TV only shows the berber of the sahara (Tuareg / zenaga) (they were historically a fucking minority) and completly dismiss the history of nothern berber / atlast berber , that lived through countless wars, to conserve their statut of free people. (Imazighen)
Unknown
While i agree that most berbers are sedentary, tuaregs and zenaga’s aren’t the only nomads; some chleuh & atlas tribes are nomads till this day and they’re having a tough time especially in the modern Moroccan society.
even if my tribes are not nomadic but we were nomadic, and I am very proud of my origin and history. we are people who can never get tired of fighting and resisting, no matter how long it will take we never forget who we are even after 3000 years of struggle we still have the same determination.
Amazighs are there own cluster, marker, highlight, blanket, chromosome, or haplogroup of people
No, amazighs share the same haplogroup e1b1b with northen ethiopians and Somalis. This is because they are also hamitic groups
There's no doubt that these people originated in the horn, long live nomadia ❤️❤️
Mhm ethiopians somalis and amazighs are distant cousins they are all in the hamitic group this us why they share the same haplogroup, they all share the same forefather
@@Imperator04 yes you correct however they say the birthplace of the race is horn and the amazighs went into the middle East than back Africa and settled in North Africa, before this DNA discovery they called Somalia the land of Berbers if you look at the old map however we rejected this term.
@Diego López also the Ethiopians went into middle East, however they came back to the homeland, the oldest y-chromosome is found in the Amhara clan about 14% carry the subclade V6, and V12 the Somalis 80%, 65 % of the Amhara 77% tigray oromo 55% most of Eritrean tribes carry about 70%, Egyptians and Sudanese all carry V12 and the amazighs carry E-M81 and V12 belongs to E-M78, Greeks Albanians view other European carry E-M78 subclade V13.
This is based human skeleton founding in afar region they carry V12.
@@Mario01243 they didnt only call somali the land of berbers they called the hole of the horn of Africa, and Egypt. They called all of us bilad al berbera. And they called sudan bilad al Sudan
Life was amazing when Algeria and Morocco were one😪
Amazigh are not berber people they had their own culture . That what old sultans and people said
Their history wasn't record for a while I mean " once apoun a time" they had old medicine and they were strong .
And right now after I knew this history , many people didn't accept it
Berber and arab are not same.
How interesting the film is about Berber but the music is from another old tribe The Pashtoun of Afghanistan, they also are over 5000 years old tribe. My kids are 50% Pashtoun and 50% Berbet.
LIBYA = in Slavic ( old Berber) language is spelled LJUBIJA / LJUBAV means LOVING KISS / LOVE
Slavic is not a language, ignorant.
It is a group of languages.
Slavs have no connections to Berbers, we are Indo-Europeans, Berbers are Afro-Asians.
'Libija' is the way it is spelled, and it is a loanword from Arabic that has no connections to the word 'ljubav', which is a word of slavic origin and means love.
@@fisebilillah4406 you are wrong we are not afro asians , we are pure Afro Africans . Amazighs go long time ago and is among the first people in history. Before Europe before before Arabs..long long before. Even before stone age.
@@TuNiSiA-TaMaZiGhT We were even more than that. We were africans before the black sub saharians were named africans by the europeans, and named all the continent by the old name of our country, Africa.
Azul khouya.
I don’t understand why you slavs tend to steal North Africa’s culture and people once you said ancient Egypt is yours and now berbers?! Geez North Africa is African and has its own identity just as east,south,west,central African regions leave us alone we are in a separate independent continent
azul imazighen
Primitive only means Original and First. Prime is the key word. I see civilization not savages. I.S.L.A.M ☪
Hoi meneer Rogge, dit zijn geen arabieren maar berberse mensen van Algerije denk ik.
SRFirstOne Super this is morroco
They have aesthetic resemblance to the descendants of Cain !
Vandals have dna haplogroup r1a in North Africa
Turks of Ben ghazi will have dna haplogroup q
Arab... Is not Arab Is Tamazight
Afghan song 😂😂
Wtf are you saying?
Hi I arab Iwant sbeek whit you beacus I love you
nah he says "hi im an arab and i want to speak with you because i love you"
@olivia holly arandelovic
Olive skin not fair skin
2:05 OK....so... apparently 1901 Arabs chick saved their armpit hair...
Khan Afridi some ppl are genetically hairless... Native Americans have hairless body
@Khan Afridi Lol, the whole world got shaving from Islam, fantastic imagination you got there bud!
Muslims were well known for depilation since medieval times.
Pubic hair and other hairs were shaven and later depilated (latter being more or less exclusive to women) since 7th century by Muslims.
Except for beard and certain other hairs.
Beardless men (except for those who couldn't grow it naturaly), were and still are forbidden to testify in many Islamic countries (especially ones of Hanafi school of law).
not arab berber
So the original Berbers were indeed black
Why dont you go after Sub Arctic people - still not explored by your "theories".
Berbers are a mix and have been since ancient times. They have a variety of skin tones
Berbers are not native africans.
yes they were berber on the video
That's bullshit. But also, what is even your reasoning for why they are not?
Wtf
Lol tell that to the science and history hahahahaha
Berbers carry E1b1b its haplogroup originated in East Africa. Berbers have Horn of Africa Origins
Somali and berber brthor
Not true Somali are half Arab Berbers are not...
@@tahliah6691 no we are.not are you crazy don't ever say that again are you crazy
@@tahliah6691 im somali and i took a dna test i have no arab in me but i have 2 percent berber. Alot of somais i know dont have arab in them too. Well exept the mixed ones.
Somail is not Berber gtfu u berber wanabe
@@mrduck7917 lol bro do some educational research. Amazighs, ethiopians, somalis are all hamitic groups, they all have the same haplogroup e1b1b due to having the same forefather
The people in the video they are not berber
Why ? Everything that was shown in the video clearly shows a berber or north african(in general) culture. They herd sheep, they make couscous, they dress as berbers, their society works like a berber one(cooperative)...etc
Also especially the hairstyle mentioned in the video which says they leave one lock of hair free which is a clear trait done by berbers in morocco too.
Yes they are Arabized Berbers
The people shown above in the video can not be berbers, this is colonial propaganada , they look straight from a tropical forest, they are not berbers/amazigh
sorry Mr JBK this is an this Amazigh zahrawi maghrib .not arabic. North africa libia and w palme not tropical forest
@@garbnadm870 they dont look berber/amzigh they look like black africans whi just got out of a rain forst in the equator
@@moroccanfreethinker2739
I think these guys my branched from the Afar or Somali. Somali was once called Berberia.
@@legioxciicorvus5917 whatever they are these guys are just not Moroccans, Algeriens,Lybians or Tunisians
@@moroccanfreethinker2739 These people are probably Tuareg or Sanhaja?
These people in the video are arabs of the ouled nail tribe and some among this tribe have subsaharan african.
Please don't confuse Berbers with Arabs. Very distinctive ethnic and cultural background. Remember, Berbers are Carthaginians with an empire based on trade, it has been the fundament of Christianity ( 3 popes, Saint Augustus, etc..) Septimus Severus emperor of Rome was a Berber, the first Novelist in the world was Afulay. Your movie is misleading. What you are showing is several years of Arab-Muslim colonisation and eradication of Berber skills with the complicity of the West..Remember the tolerance on the Iberian Peninsula in the middle age was Berber, not Arab, The Moors are Berbers.
Carthaginians are Phoenicians, Berbers are not blacks native Africans they are invaders and always sides with invaders watch this czcams.com/video/FCMNXBcYQUU/video.html
member100xy wrong. North Africa has always been inhabited by people of Mediterranean type for more then 100 000 years. The latest genetic analysis have proved that Carthaginians are berber. They probably a reminiscence of an ancien civilisation, lost long ago. Phoenicians are sea people they never settle. They establish Trade post that’s all. After the 3rd Punic war, many sought refuge on the mountain of the Aurés and Djurdjura. Black are from sub-saharien but has always been welcomed by Berber who traded as equal with them for thousands of years. Arabs brought black slavery to North Africa.
ORPHEUS II those that anthropologists classified as Europid, Hamitic, Mediterranean, and caucasoid do not necessarily expressed Europeans or even the modern fair skinned inhabitants of North Africa and the Middle East. The inhabitants of North Africa and the Middle East had only recently became a multiracial population recently. These two regions had underwent demographic changes for the last couple hundred years or so, no more than the beginning of the medieval ages. The Berber people with no exception, has always been referenced as being black skinned and having woolley hair by Europeans, Syrians, Perisans, and even the inhabitants, in some degree. During the course of the medieval period, many Eurasian populations began to settle in North Africa, for a variety of reasons. Many merchants and traders from Syria, Persia, Iraq, Anatolia, and Europe, began to settle the coast as immigrants, along with countless refugees of some shape or form, from The northern part of the Levant or just simple immigrants coming from all places of Islamic world. But one of the main causes to the demographic changes of North Africa was slavery, mostly the recruiting of solders from the Balkans, Eastern Europe, Southern Europe, Southern Russia, the Caucasus, the Levant, Iran, and Central Asia for Islamic armies, thus the Mamelukes are an prime example, white slave solders who will eventually create their own country. Although black slave solders were common, Eurasians were the vast majority os Islamic slaves, in fact there were three main places where slaves came from. The Balkans, Central Asia, and Southeast Africa. Now on the phonecians and Sea people, the Sea people were not one group but conglomerate of different populations, which were a population from the Aegean, thus the Temehu(white Libyans), the Libyans(Tehenu), indigenous Libyans, and the Philistines, who are related to the Phoenicians. Again, like I said, North Africa and the Middle East were not the stereotypical melting pot as everybody makes it out to be, these places only recently mixed.
ORPHEUS here link to an explanation to what I'm talking about www.academia.edu/6314823/Addendum_to_The_African_Heritage_and_Ethnohistory_of_the_Moors_in_Golden_Age_of_the_Moor
Here are some more information on the ethnic history of the Berbers, by the same woman, from her blog afroasiatics.blogspot.com/2012/01/appearance-of-moors-and-berbers-in.html
BERBERS ARE OF SLAVIC ORIGIN!
They became " primitive" after Arab, Ottoman and W Europe invasion . This is what Herodotus wrote about them :
"According to Herodotus, the ancient Libyans ( Berber) were the first to know civilisation, and no one knew of Poseidon and Athena before them. Among the things invented by the ancient Libyans are the wheel, the chariot, and the banking system (the Berber fortified granaries of today).
The advancements made by the ancient Libyans in the fields of art, science, mythology and in many other aspects of human culture require decades of work to catalogue.
In later times the Libyans comprised two major groups: the agricultural population of the coastal regions, and the shepherds or the nomads, of which Numidae is the Latin form.
The Numidae of the Second Punic War were essentially the Berber tribes of the Masaesyli and the Massyli, the subjects of the Berber kings Syphax and Masinissa respectively.
The Numidian kingdom of Masinissa eventually included all of Tripolitania. In the 7th century Libya was invaded by the Arabs, who, with the later help of European colonial intruders, ended up dividing North Africa into Arab countries such as Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco.
The term "Arab" was introduced into Libya's official name for the first time in history by Gaddafi when he renamed the Kingdom of Libya "The Libyan Arab Republic" in 1969."
What your saying is BS my child we didn't became primitive
Berbers are not slavic lol. They are closely related to Middle eastern sub saharan and east africans in there origins.