Jesus Doesn't EXIST in AFRICA And African Pastors Are LYING| Ep. 65
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2023
- Today we are joined by CONTROVERSIAL Tik Toker @outabrian4711 From Uganda to DEBATE if Jesus actually exists in Africa. What role are African Pastors playing to produce quality church members on the continent?
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My country was colonised by missionaries. The reason why I am no longer a Christian is because, I am an adult with my own mind and researching and understanding history has made me leave Christianity. Besides finding out about all the fake and plagiarised stories in the Bible, the fact that missionaries colonised my country is enough for me. Coming from Southern Africa, we have different cultural practices, my father’s family has maintained our original culture of communicating with our ancestors. My mother’s family are Christians when things are well but when things aren’t going well, they visit traditional healers and Sangomas. Most Christians do the same. Africans have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, my culture is totally different from my husband’s but we’re from the same country. The Bible demonised our culture and spirituality because the learnt from the slaves how dangerous our spirituality is for them and sadly, most of us are lost now in Christianity.
You know my people nubians have interesting history, arabs never succeeded in conquering nubia kingdom, we had time when we adhere to kemetic or anceint egypt religions, we had time when we were christans, then lastly we were latest to convert to islam, arabs never succeeded in conquering us but they did their tricks in doing trades with nubians then crawl their way into nubia by intermarrying nubian women then those women children became arabized minded with nubian looks so they were like double agents and those formed alliances with their father families uncles etc and converted whole nubia into islam then just swallow nubia as whole they like you now part islamic ummah their no such thing as nubian land only it god earth but saudi arabia remain only for arabs, before nubians could wake up and relies the scam their land was taken over by arabs and later by ottomans, and those ottomans used nubian soilders to advance farther south into Africa, cuz now nubians as muslims have duty to spread islam, so they convened nubians that they were fighting holy wars to spread islam message of peace, same old conolial shit but arabs now day will deny thay and only point to christans atrocities
Christianity and islam is politics ,divide them rule them through fear .
If we Afrikans don't drop these colonial religions like hot yam, we will get nowhere and will continue to be the most backward, hated and despised on the planet. Learning our history is the key.
@@davidelba6676 Exactly!!!
(I'm a German atheist. I thought about your post, wrote my thoughts down, and ended up with a big wall of text. Sorry for that. Nobody needs to read it, but perhaps some people find it interesting.)
All religions are lies. The only important question is, what is the harm done by a specific religion, and what are the benefits.
Christianity, like Judaism before it and Islam after it, was invented as a political technology to influence the population of a country. (The same was true for the state religions of Rome and of the ancient Greek republics, which were polytheistic, and for many other monotheistic, polytheistic and atheistic religions.) As such it can have very beneficial effects, but if it is abused or perverted, it becomes very harmful.
The Romans were very impressed by the Jews because they were so fanatical that untrained normal Jews destroyed entire legions. To the Romans this meant that the Jewish religion was superior. If they could have a religion like this for their legionnaires, they would be unbeatable! This is why the Romans were so involved in the creation of Christianity. They wanted a religion with the advantages (in their eyes) of Judaism, but except without circumcision (which the Romans would never have done!) and so that you can eat and wear whatever you want.
Perhaps the greatest achievement of Christianity in Europe is invisible today. Have you heard of any tribes in Germany? Or in France? Or anywhere else in Europe? Probably not, because they no longer exist. Although we speak different languages in different countries and have slightly different cultures, we are all one big tribe, the tribe of Europeans. Christianity did this with two things: 1. It told people that they are all brothers and sisters and should not worry about tribes. 2. For many hundreds of years the church made it illegal to marry someone you were even remotely related to. (If you wanted to do that, you needed permission from the Pope. In practice, only nobility could get that.) That soon made it impossible for everyone to marry inside their tribe, and that destroyed the tribes. Nowadays we don't even remember them. I am sure this contributed to the fact that Europe colonized Africa and not the other way round.
Now let's talk about Ethiopia. Ethiopia became Jewish around the time of the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon, and later it became one of the first Christian regions in the world. According to Acts 8, Philipp converted a high official of the Ethiopian queen of the time who was returning from a pilgrimage to Jerusalem. The Kingdom of Aksum (in today's Ethiopia and Eritrea) even became the first country in the world that made Christianity its state religion, a few decades before the Roman Empire did the same.
There are still tribes in Ethiopia. That's because they had their own church, which didn't outlaw marriages between relatives; or at least not as strictly. But they still got a degree of national unity, and they got the fanatical fighting power that comes with monotheistic religions. Today with the fact that the Europeans found it hard to justify massacring fellow Christians in the same way as they did with people they could denigrate as 'savages', this was enough to protect Ethiopia from attempts to colonize it.
In Ethiopia and Eritrea you can see a genuinely African form of Christianity that has evolved over 2000 years with only a little bit of contact with European Christianity. As a European atheist, I watch videos from Ethiopia with wonder, as I see a form of Christianity there that combines African aesthetics and African music with the relaxed form of Christianity that is normal in Europe as well. I believe that's a good model of Christianity for the rest of Africa as well.
Unfortunately, the relaxed Christians tend not to become missionaries, and if they do they seem to be less influential. The most successful missionaries are the scammers and the nutcases that are as mad as Paul was and convert people with miracles and similar stuff. The most extreme Evangelicals from places like the US and the Philippines, or homegrown in Africa. Perhaps that's inevitable and a country cannot become Christian without going through such a phase; I don't know.
Much the same things can be said about Islam. Once it has calmed down, as it has in Turkey, for example, it's actually not so bad as a political tool.
I get your point about Christianity having demonized your people's culture. But don't think that's a uniquely African problem. Exactly the same happened in Europe, in a process that started about 1600 years ago and ended about 1000 years ago. One country after another was converted by Christian missionaries and the old polytheistic religion made illegal. The old religions left some traces in Christianity overall, and in some local customs, but we have mostly forgotten all about it. Almost nothing was written down about it, and there isn't a lot of archeological finds that would help us to reconstruct it. By the way, some of the old gods were turned into saints of the Catholic church! (That was probably one of the reasons why Martin Luther didn't like the saints.) A lot of pre-Christian religious practices in Europe survived for centuries, disguised as something Christian.
Christianization is a pity, but it's also a chance for a new form of unity.
The natural course of things is that the location of power concentration moves over the globe. The US is in a serious decline, and has been for a while. Europe is also beginning to decline. Asia has started rising a while ago, and now Africa has started as well. Soon China will play the role that the US plays today, and I guess Africa will be like Europe today. At some point, the main power will be in Africa, and Europe, with all its great past, will consist of insignificant vassal states. Monotheistic religions will likely contribute to this. Although they could turn out to be an obstacle if Africa's split between Christianity and Islam is not resolved well. Maybe they will both relax to the point that everyone agrees there is no big difference. Maybe a new religion will arise that unifies them; or an existing one that does this, such as Bahá'í, suddenly spreads like mad and takes over all of Africa.
You say your culture and your husband's are totally different. Think about it: Would you have married if Christianity hadn't already shifted people's attitudes to the point where this was possible? (Maybe the answer is Yes. Obviously I don't know enough about your cultures and their histories to know this.)
In any case, much more important than any individual religion or tradition is national unity and solidarity, and then also pan-African unity and solidarity. This doesn't necessarily mean people have to marry across tribal boundaries. Variety of cultures means that many cultural experiments can take place at the same time and everyone can learn from the results. But it's difficult to avoid factionalism if different tribes have different religions.
This young king is very intelligent I hope our fellow Ugandans are listening to him.
There are some people who are misusing the term Christianity and the religion is not even a western religion. This is just comedy but Brian should be careful, he might get burnt.
Big respect, big shout out to that Ugandian brother. I'm Black Haitian American, and it's time that black people, all over the world, we turned to logic, technology, science, etc... It's time to leave white Jesus lol. For the people in America, you know damn well that he looks like a biker or a rock star lol.
This is our only hope… everything is about god and Jesus with black folks.. like everything 🤦🏾♂️
this
I love to see this African brother talking some real talk
Black American and African Christianity still worships the depiction of Cesare Borgia.
Lol yup, and Leonardo DaVinci painted it. Cesare was a evil crazy man. So was his whole family. That family is what the lanisters from game of thrones is based off of. Cesare was smashing his sister lol.
Still worshiping their oppressor
Aaron you don't even know who Christ is .....
@@J_a_s_o_n neither do you.
We do NOT worship a depiction of anyone! Just because the portrait is popular does not mean we worship it. Or believe the image.
I love to see black men thinking critically. #Afrikansuperstar
About time.
We so late through it taking us long time
55:53 , important line: ". . if you can give your life to this highest of highest and you still face the same problem as somebody who has not done, who has not given their life to the highest of highest, . . . . then there is no point of me giving my life to this highest. yet we are all going to experience the same world. "
Church is a business. That ugandan pastor that quit being a pastor after winning a superbet game, is a good example.
He said he was looking for money and after winning the lottery,he'd no business in church waiting for small tithes🥱.
Pastoring is just another job for many jobless people.
Massive business oooo!
It’s sad to see black people defending a religion that was imposed on them by the colonizers. I would love to see this brilliant brother back on this show. It’s time for African to wake up
They defend those religions as if their lives depend on it. You see them calling on the "blood of Jesus" in a panic when you counter them over the topic. Afrikan minds have been seriously f--ked up.
Exactly!!!
This was not imposed by colonizers. Christianity was always there. They used it for bad. You need to study history
And the benefits of not believing in the bible is that you no longer have to live in fear... That's what changed my life!!
Likewise
What was you doing in your life that you felt you had to live in fear for?
Until you're in a jam that you can't get out of and that's when everyone comes begging God for help
Have him on the panel full time. Love this guy. Most of all I love hearing our ppl conversate!!! T.I.A
The. answers to most of these questions about religion can be found in the teaching of African scholars such as Dr. Ray Hagins , Dr. Kaba Kamene and Dr. Ashra Kwesi to name a few.
Those guys are great! Furthermore, black people need to learn our history relentlessly and rediscover all the mistakes as well as the great things we did pre- and during Kush-Kamit. Me, I've handed the invaders their Jesus back to them.
Dr HENRIK CLARKE RIM❤
CZcams speech
The world war against African History
Ase
Agreed!!!
This guy (comedian) is brilliant and seems to have a firm understanding of what he is talking about. Oshay started out good but went in circles and made it personal. Kudos to this brother and I do not think Oshay served any intellectual dialogue here. Thanks for introducing this brother to me. He was great!
It’s not personal at all it was just fun but thanks for your comment
@@Kenganda Sorry bro, I misinterpreted your reaction. It was a good conversation and I appreciate you inviting this brother because there are many people on the continent who share the same beliefs and it is good to highlight that side of Africa as well. I wish so bad I could have been a part of this conversation. Brother, I am not famous or anything but I am an African living in America and I used to be a true believer and now I am a skeptic. I think you should revisit this conversation someday and invite me via zoom or phone to share with your people how my views have changed. I also studied in a Bible College, so my knowledge of church history is decent. Thank you again!
Yeah, Oshay went Full Jordan Peterson and all his arguments were what ifs with no solid answers one way or another. His plane analogy was a strawman because man invented planes nor did they exist at the time of his answer. Oxygen exist but was not recognized as oxygen. You could say wind exist because you experience it, but not say oxygen because it was not recognized as oxygen in his example. God would have to follow the same logic. You can't say it exist unless you experience or able to point to evidence of it's existence. This is the fallacy of faith powered by emotions. You will defend it despite not being able to point to evidence. I know I butchered my arguments as they require more discussion than a bunch of run on sentences. 🙃
Edit: Around the 57 min mark Oshay starts talking about benefits of religious community and lack of beneficial atheist community. The Church of Satan is a civil rights organization that welcomes all beliefs and actively help people find resources to various social and economical problems. Of course the name is a dig at religion.
@@kaybeeMoAfrika Oshay has Nigerians personality you may think he takes things personal but not great guy,... Two Nigerians in the room you may think they're fighting rather laughing hahaha
@@knowthyself903 Absolutely spot on 💯💯💯👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👈🏿
I love how he keeps referring to Christianity as Comedy something Alan Watts used to talk about
The church overall is performative and people love entertainment.
Bring the guest back I think it's great to have someone within the diaspora who has a certain perspective on things
Good Show!! I love this Ugandan guest. Please bring him back for more discussions to help enlighten the continent 🌍❤
Fully agree 👍🏿
Oshay, you were reaching. Don't force your religious belief on the guest. You were pretty rude. Jonita is pretty brainwashed and doesn't think outside the box. She and the majority in her country like the rest of the continent had accepted everything their European masters left behind in Uganda.
He doesn't feel I'm rude we are just shooting the breeze man we know each other 😂
😅😅😅praise the lord. Amen 🙏🏿
His not forcing anyone to be religious and YAH did not bring religion its about relationship with most HIGH brother 1 Corinthian 15:1-4 be blessed .
Agreed!!!
It's very possible that the people who now call themselves Ugandans had Prophets and Messengers sent to them in the past, and this may be evident in the pre-colonial traditions, values, and worldviews.
Most of our peoples are under Religious Delusions The prevalence of the biopsychosocial model in psychiatry highlights the importance of investigating the clinical significance of religiosity in patients with psychotic disorders. Due to the spiritual and supernatural nature of religious beliefs, distinguishing them from religious delusions is a challenging endeavor. The self-referential nature of the beliefs, the presence of concomitant psychiatric symptomatology and the effect on functionality seem to play a key role in differential diagnosis. Religious psychotic symptoms are common in clinical practice. The study of these symptoms often becomes difficult due to varying definitions, the fluctuation they present over time and space and the strong influences of the social and cultural environment on them. There seems to be a positive correlation between religiosity and the occurrence of religious delusions in psychotic patients, but it is not clear that this indicates a causal relationship. The content of religious delusions seems to be significantly influenced by the immediate social environment rather than cultural background of the individual, as well as by the beliefs and attitudes of the patient's family environment. Religious delusions are characterized by increased conviction and pervasiveness, permeating to a greater extent the individual's whole experience. Their presence is associated with more severe symptoms, higher medication dosage, and poorer prognosis. The increased severity of psychosis with religious content symptomatology seems to be associated with Religious delusions some time. You need to listen, the brother never said he dont believe in god. African and African American is in positions in the world because they are under mind control and are living their life in a fantasy world
This Ugandan man is a great thinker ( Wiseman )
Im in the Philippines right now during Holy Week. I just saw a depiction of Jesus here, in sort of statue like scene with a black Jesus with dreadlocks. I thought it was interesting that they depicted Jesus in that manner.
🤣🤣 Really....🤦🏾♂🤦🏾♂ I'm looking at 8 Pinoys get crucified on the cross.
Much love for your channel from Cape Town South Africa!
God gave everyone free will
watching from UK.
I love this conversation! It needs to happen worldwide.
Good debate
Question, why can’t one be atheist or Christian or Muslim and we still get along? Why can’t we mind our own business and move forward like that?
Y'all! This is an excellent discussion.
Last time I checked Egypt and Ethiopia was Africa and still have the oldest bibles and Jesus was in it and He was not white, Africa should get themselves an Ethiopian bible, it was there long before the white man came along.
Yes. This man makes sense. It's interesting how the same people who brought the Bible barely practice what they preach and they are living waaaaay better lives than the ones who are following their religions blindly.
thanks for sharing
Question everything that was given to you by your enemy!!!
They won't listen. They will wrap the religious chains around their necks even tighter than the coloniser did. Leave them to it. Everyone will learn, whether in this life or in 300 lifetimes hereafter.
Egypt is apart of Africa! He lived there!
Excellent point and so did the Israelites were in Egypt for 430 years and after going into Israel, they made allies of the Egyptians and often fled there when powerful enemies came against them.
The so called Christ you worship is a depiction of Spaniard royalty. Christianity is a tool of white supremacy in it's most basic form. You worship white flesh, therefore hate your own.
@@rafaelw8115 I hope you don't live to regret that! Accept him while you can!
You can’t believe and know at the same time.
I love this need more of this conversation
If I speak. I’ll be in big trouble. 😂😂😂 Great conversation as always! ❤️🫶🏾🇺🇬
Faith is the substance of a mere belief which can be attributed to anything. A thing occurring or being perceived doesn't give credence to a god or any other unseen "power." Those who have only a mere surface understanding of any belief system and it's actual origin have no idea what they "believe" in and whether or not it has viable legitimacy. Those who have the beliefs, language, and culture of their colonizer are unfortunately misguided, foolish, and will without question will obey their masters methodology of control. How can one serve the same god that favor one people over the other and justify this. Those who have adopted this thinking are still the slaves of their colonizer in their mind, body, and spirit. "Believers" will always use short scripture they memorize to even justify their plight at the hands of their colonizer/god due to training and conditioning by their own leaders put in place by their colonizer. Believers are taught that even if their life is terrible, if faithful to their colonizer god they will go to heaven. Foolishness. Answered prayer is nothing more than a matter of luck or chance. Nothing more. If Two people standing next to one another and the believer suddenly died, other believers will say it was just his time. If he lives and the other dies, the believers will thank god for living and not being the sinner that died. The concept of "god" is not understood at all by a people who does not understand your original concept of creation.
Lol. Oshay Wild Out Hour!!! Lol. The Religious Comedy Show! So good guys.
I doubt humans will EVER fully understand God or Satan.
We're just trying to make sense of life.
Satan means "adversary" which any human can be: "Then the LORD raised up against Solomon an adversary, Hadad the Edomite".
It's all mythology. Mythology is how we try and make sense of the world around us like comparing the current flow of water to electricity in electric wiring
Humans created God and Satan. Those characters are fully understood.
There is no god and there is no Satan. It is all about good and evil choice is your life is like a bummer wrong it will come right back to you
@@keithmaxwell6941 Boomerang 🪃 ...?
Great dialogue. In the end, O'Shay equated religion to a gang.
This sure is interesting and controversial conversation, sometimes we forget that Christianity is not an European concept the whole of Europe was at one time worshiping idols and several gods before Christianity came to play and just because Europe colonized Africa and enslaved Africans does not make the essence of the Christ message irrelevant, even those who were the disciples of Jesus did not initially really understand the message until later…so what do you expect from those who are far removed from that moment.
The message of Christ in its Pure Absolute unadulterated approach is not to save the “form” heal it or make it feel better for the world of form itself is a lie a mirage, the message of Christ in its simplicity is to declare oneness with God and to let you know that where you the “form” appear to be is Christ albeit asleep and when you experience HIM from a first person singular perspective all these world views/doubts fall like a pack of cards and you do not cause this to happen for it is the Father through Grace that makes it happen and no matter how big or full of ego that person is, you break down and when this happens you know what or whom you have experienced, go read the experience of Saul to Paul.
Also when you look at some aspects of African Christianity there is no doubt that the old tradition and superstitious beliefs and way of life operate heavily and some leaders capitalize on this fear and vulnerability whether consciously or unconsciously. At the end of the day God is God and is no respecter of persons born in time and space.
Every religion on earth is infused with the culture involve
Sorry Oshay, you weren't the intellectual. You were rambling
The Ugandan brother is the truth. This is wokeness.
C'mon now!
These pastors are taking their cue from American TV-Evangelists. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?
Revelations mentions Christ had hair like lamb's wool and feet of bronze -- hardly the description of a Dutch Master.
The indigenous sheep from Middle East and Egypt _(Najdi and Awassi)_ have straight shaggy hair.... The sheep that have curly wool are indigenous to Spain _(Merino)...._ The color for bronze is Reddish Gold _(Bronze Medal)._
You are so right my brother
Africans are waking up, the young lady on the set is dead asleep poor girl.
Praise the lord!!! 😅
GOD gave us HIS only son that our sins may be forgiven through HIM that we may not FACE GOD'S wrath mark 1:15 and 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
@@joanitamaaya praise Oshay he show up in Uganda 🇺🇬 and changed your life situation not Jesus Christ, that MF is nowhere to be found. Fact!
@@mugabedavid4845 I pitied you my friend
@@mugabedavid4845 Do you sincerely believe the people who enslaved and killed us can give us / teacher us somebody to save us from themselves?
Nice conversation their
This brother is spot on. Protect him✊🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Can't call something that was used to enslaved millions of black people so the comedy here is our people for allowing something comedy to enslaved them 😅😅😅😅
Where is god when all the disorder and human suffering 😊
Speak brother!!!!!!❤🎉 if we insist on having religion, let it be one not from colonialism and slavery!!
Africans are waking up
Walk by faith, not by…..👀
He would also benefit from reading about Black Liberation Theology
Liberation theology is just a reinterpretation of Roman Catholic theology and the Roman Catholic Church were some of the largest slave owners. How ironic.
Brotha your speaking the truth!
7:00 time stamp ,
" what changed " ?
I think he grew up ?
ooooohhhhhhhh…..im watching this one CAREFULLY
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ahhhh
You don't need a church to have a relationship with God and live right. Why do people think they need to be apart of an organization (business) to talk and pray to their God. No person in a church can keep you form God or take you to God. That relationship and spiritual journey is yours and yours alone.
Ase'
Avraham Ben Moshe - Leader of a "Common Sense Family" group from Ghana would have been the best guy to enlighten folks on this topic.
Afrikans have held on to these colonial religions for too long. You see many black people even boasting they want to remain in ignorance when you point it out to a lot of them. Try to tell them to go back and learn their history and many will scamper off. But it has to be said whenever the opportunity presents itself because you may sow the seed that'll eventually free one brother or sister from religious psychosis. It is only then we can address a lot of the rot that's crept into our spirituality since the advent of the slave religions in Afrika.
This is hailing you from Lagos, Nigeria.
That guy reminds me of Kem. R.I.P to Kem
They were good friends
Because something is not understood or unknown or may never be understood or known does not there for me God.
Too much witchcraft that’s why the suffering. We worship the Devil in Africa and expect God to protect us.
God is WITHIN all of us but, we are not God.
Outa Brian in a good match for the show Maintain is well spoken he could use back uo😅😅😅😅😅😅 Oshay 🧹him.
Oshay, the reason why we believe in oxygen and electricity, even if we can't see it, is because we know it affects our lives. Without oxygen, nobody would be able to live. But, there is absolutely no proof of a god other than inside some books. In fact, the first god that people worshiped was the sun. Because since then, people understood that without the sun, nothing can grow. Later on it was the fire, the earth, the air, the water, all four elements essentials for life.
All religions are based on the movement of the heavens and the stars especially and most prominently the sun. Hence sun of god, reverse it. God of sun. Hence most religions repeat the narrative “died on the cross, Resurrected on the third day. This is what the sun does every year. From Mithra to Jesus. Same planetary story mapped out in the heavens. Satan was a comet that fell to the earth causing the great deluge. There have been many.
To understand religion in Africa you must go back in history to the 13th, through 15th century, where the slave trade and conquest of various empires took place. Religion was imposed as an alternative to death and enslavement. The people of the continent were look at as Heathens, their lives were spared by converting to Catholicism or Islam. This adaptation has continued till today.
Exactly!!!
100% True! Even in Europe the slve trade only finished when romain Emperior collapsed when the Catholicism started to be the majority in society.
Oshay Kevin Samuel's was and will continue to be proud of you 👏 keep doing your thing, FBA love from Brooklyn
There was never a Jesus Christ existed
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Great dialogue #Afrikansuperstar
No tangibles no vote!
Benny Hinn. LMAO!! 😁😁😁😁
They need to study more. Projecting modern-era concepts (like African, European, etc..) distorts the story of human history
John 3:16
Like black Americans. During slavery we couldn’t read or write or even be humans. But we were given that bible though. A European religion
Traditional African Spirituality is the answer you seek.
What is African spirituality?.
More Black Jesus in Europe than on the continent of Africa 🤦🏾♂️..WM dressing up as Cesar Borgia and worshipped
Read the Word Yourself
It's interesting how people talk about rules and order in nature and still believe that people used to live 300, 400, 600 yrs. That people walked on water and returned from the dead, and survived fiery furnaces, and even built boats large enough to hold two of each animal and all the food to feed them. These things go totally against the laws of science and nature which God put in place. They can either believe in God and trust the science and order that God put in place as far as we understand it at this stage, or believe the incredibly impossible fairy tales of religion. That opens the doors for delusion like prosperity preaching, and religious interpretation spin offs.
Exactly, Eurocentric religion is pure plagiarized fiction!!! I prefer to go to the non fiction section which is African Spirituality which was interwoven witrh science, astronomy, philosophy, ect. ! ! !
I love me some JOANITA yes I do I do. We most grow and fix the mistakes of the past. Outa Brain has a great point.
Hahaha 🤣, this guy is intelligent and funny 🤣 at the same time 😂
Mr Duke im from the Caribbean this type of bs i remember white pastor from tv coming there and preaching this then black pastors started doing it
Thanks for Sharing ❣️💜❤🖤💚
The power of suggestions similar as hypnosis will make some people fall or feel the so call spirit of GOD
The one you see fall is working with the pastor
It was same God but different name in different communities/tribes who spoke different dialects for ngai in Kikuyu,yeyiin in kalenjin but mean same God
Well said Oshay consistent order and structure in nature happens according to natural laws...Who implemented the natural laws and enforcing those natural laws, cause a law can only be a law if there is a power to enforce those laws.
That's a good question. However, to assume the answer must be God (Jehovah) is a bit far-fetched. The problem with enforcement is that one has to assume that there is a superpower who is actively keeping the order. Which means that the supernatural deity is constantly spinning Earth and other planets to make sure we get the days and nights. It is true that to our eyes everything looks to be in a perfect order, but is it really in a perfect order? We can tell by looking into some of the recent studies that the universe is expanding and we are learning that new planets are being born and dying almost every second. We now understand that everything in the known universe is spinning, which explains why we are in this constant spinning, and we're able to experience days and nights, and seasons as well. So if you're just looking at earth and everything that happens on it and think that that's an order, then your scope of thinking is very limited. There is so much more happening even in our own solar system that our minds cannot fully comprehend. But to assume that this one person / being / god is directing everything is in itself unfortunate and perhaps a bit nonsensical.
@@kaybeeMoAfrika Not necessarily hands on control, but having created interconnected systems that are self replicating self repairing all with the purpose of facilitating the perpetuation of life, the human biology is a part of these internal and external macro and micro systems sustaining its life...This is a technology that everything mankind has purported to have invented is a less advanced technological replica of. In essence man can only invent what already exist in nature..on an inferior scale and function. If man's invention spring from his intellect..Than conversely the creation of nature sprang from a substantially greater intellect..ie God.
@@kaybeeMoAfrika As vast as the universe is and as far fetched as it may seem would a person be wrong if he said he believed in a supreme being or supernatural force that has always been around and was there just before the big bang?
@@wally7361 of course it is okay to believe that there is some supernatural power but believing in something does not mean does make it factual. If there is a supernatural power, that power does not intervene in human life.
@@kaybeeMoAfrika There's people who believe in some force and it brings some form of comfort or joy to their life. I believe in certain things and also things that cannot be explained but I also believe in free will so I agree that no intervention part. I have people who are atheist or agnostic.
I personally try to stay away from those who attempt to impose be it atheists or supposed faith healing prophets who claim to heal and end suffering. Unfortunately you can find a lot in Africa
"Arteries carry blood away from the heart, and veins carry blood towards the heart."
These criminals are NOT Christians and does not represent Christ. We all can see that
JESUS is in everyone who is in CHRIST! Not a race or country nor religions!
What's his CZcams😊?
What do atheists produce? iPhones, Internet, electric cars, etc...
United State of America.
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I totally agree with the young man with the black hair and green shirt on
Polo shirt and sweatpants? Country!
they all missed the point or dont understand the grand schemes of biblical doctrine, to follow the Messiah is to have faith in the SON of THE FATHER He sent as the Sacrifice of the sins of the whole world, that who believes in His death and resurrection ,has the opportunity to recieve Eternal Life. Yashuah(Jesus) was and is the only way to the THRONE OF THE FATHER who was sent here to give us this gift. And the JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH THROUGH THE ONLY NAME THAT ONE MUST BE SAVED!!! NO OTHER!!!
This Truth is not taught in no other Scriptures except the Bible Text. So blessed to all those who recieve this gift and believe it. and no more shall one live in sin, that the BIble reveal what sin is. too bad most pastors in these churches lie and teach that sin was nailed on the cross with Christ. what a damnable lie. the all lies were taught to avoid clearly in the Bible.
Belief VS. The truth= Do your own research and use critical, logical, reasoning, analytical, thinking... "Stay woke or die in your sleep"-YoBoi_JamesTv
I love Brian.
Christianity was not imposed by the missionaries. Ethiopia had Christianity
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