Which Ronaldo is better in their prime: CR7 or R9? | ESPN FC Extra Time
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- ESPN FC's Gab Marcotti, Steve Nicol and Frank Leboeuf answer the best fan tweets in ESPN FC's Extra Time, including:
0:00 How far would Scotland get in the World Cup if they read Frank's book?
1:37 What was the most bizarre stoppage to a football match?
4:10 Which Ronaldo was better in their prime: CR7 or R9?
9:46 Does the proposal of FIFA World Cup every two years sound appealing?
11:02 What is the best possible front three of Serie A players now that Romelu Lukaku and Ronaldo are gone?
12:11 Why doesn't Jurgen Klopp play Trent at midfielder?
12:29 Why didn't Lingard earn a move away from Manchester United this summer?
13:42 How much do the top clubs make from shirt sales?
14:28 Who would you chose between N'Golo Kante or Patrick Viera?
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Frank killed me with the "Oh my God the guy is lost, psychologically the guy is not getting good, read my book read my book" comment 🤣🤣
i died.
Nah Frank’s book can’t perform miracles 😂
That was golden lolol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was too finished to hear that part, I will watch again for the hundredth time
If longevity wasn't a factor then every player who had his moment would be considered one of the best if not the best. However, being able to do it consistently for a longer period separates the GOATs from the pack.
Agreed. Bias is a big part of it no matter where you stand in the GOAT debate
Yea you're absolutely correct. What we as a group are not understanding here is simple so let me try to make it more simplistic. The reason why R9 fans say that he was the greatest thing ever seen as far as talent relative to CR and even Messi, is because at 21 yrs old, Ronaldo Nazario9 was already scoring 40 goals. He scored 35 goals in La Liga at 21 years old which is ungodly at 21, and 5 in 6 game in Europe, so that's 40 goals at 21 vs the best defenders in world football which makes you think you are watching an Alien. Messi at 21 yrs old was scoring 10 goals in LL, and 23 goals when he was 22.
Cristiano never scored over 20 league goals until he was 23. R9 was a far better player/talent than CR, but a longer career made Cristiano ultimately the most successful player.
@@4thGenna. Cristiano was a midfielder you idiot 😂.
@@giovannirodriguez4444 R9 played everywhere you 🤡🤡🤡. When R9 made his Barcelona debut in 1996 I was 11 yrs old you petulant little kid take it from someone older than you, child. He was the greatest thing ever seen (until Dinho imo). However, as I will repeat for clarification, CR and Messi career being longer made them more successful. Nothing more to it
@@4thGenna. both messi and ronaldo together have 11 balond'or and 9 UCLS 🙄
And I missed the part where Ronaldo and Messi took ages to win a Balond'or?😃 They both won it at the very beginning of their career... NOBODY IS EVEN CLOSE....
I don’t know what’s worse…Stevie thinking Frank’s book is a fitness book, or him asking which one from CR7 and R9 is Cristiano?
Or stevie then thinking r9 was ronaldinho
The answer is yes
@@syedakhudsiyatarannum5695 Fenomeno.
comdedy show
Even worse he thought about Ronaldinho 😆😅😆
Are we going to forget that R9 played when the defenders were allowed to be way more rough. Serie A was a very difficult and highly competitive. R9 was the pinnacle of what a striker should aspire to be - speed, strength, skill and smile. He had it all. Cannot but put him at the pedestal of greatest.
But he was the greatest player we have ever seen during that time... Maybe not the GOAT, but during those years of his prime he was the greatest we have ever seen during any period of football history.
Bro, R9’s defenders aren’t that different from defenders today lol, it’s not that long ago.
@@obedasante3522 Defending has gone downhill tremendously in 20 years. Nobody wants to be a defender, back in the early 2000's you had defenders challenging for the Ballon D'or and actually winning it in 2006. You had defenders with huge legendary names like Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Sergio Ramos, Carles Puyol, Phillip Lahm and Paolo Maldini. The late 90's and early 2000's defenders is probably the greatest generation of defenders in the history of football.
@@briansearle6868 CR7 was considered the best dribble in the world in 2006 and wasn’t even in his prime yet 😂
R9 is the goat behind Maradona
People just love to talk about Cr7 no matter you hate him or love him.
How would these beggers espn earn then 😂😂😂
So is he that irrelevant that espn shouldn't even talk about him?? There are 100's of discussion about Many different players on this channel,on this set . It's your problem if you don't know other players and click on the video Only after seeing cr7 on thumbnail..
@@prefersongs1666 what are u on abt
Come is dis even ah Debate
Prime Cristiano was a beast, the lad scored 50-60 goals
69 in 2012. People forget that because Messi was monstrous with 91.
Prime R9 scored 40+ goals in peak Serie A arguably the greatest defensive league ever, which is much harder.
@@kc13832 ronaldo did it in the prem and against these defensive Italian leagues. Plus lukaku has statistically had 2 better consecutive seasons in serie A than R9
@Abdilmajid Adare wouldn't compare serie a of today to R9s time.
@@abdulm112
The idiotic nature of your comment to even dare compare this trash Serie A which hasn't won a single European competition since 2010 to that of 90's when they were up there with La Liga in European dominance, and the fact that almost every nom Beckenbauer European GOAT defenders Played their.
I had the chance to see both Ronaldo's in live matches and highlights. If we are only considering their prime years, the R9 from his Barcelona and Inter Milan days was simply operating at another level, especially given the quality of footballers who were balling during that period.
Agreed. Another level.
That makes CR7 that much better because he, according to your logic, had worse players and STILL managed to score way more goals per game than Ronaldo Lima.
@@mikehansen7610 no. What I meant was there were more superior ballers during R9 period but R9 was still standing out when he playing with or against them
Especially the defenders, Canavarro Nesta, Maldini, cafu
You hit the nail on the head.
Brazilian Ronaldo was beast in his prime …the pace …the dribbling…the goals
He was a MONSTER.
Still prime CR7 was better
@@rehaanaamir 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Penaldo is nowhere near prime r9.
@@rehaanaamir cristiano had a better career but prime Ronaldo was far better an it’s not even close.
Sounds like you're literally describing Cristiano ronaldo just add tricks and skills and you got an accurate description of Cristiano ronaldo
best espn commentary ever loved seeing gab die laughing for the first time in history 🤣🤣
On god 🤣🤣
It's the first time I saw him laughing too
For sure!!
And he has such a boyish, giggly laugh lol
Cristiano Ronaldo scored 69 goals in a year during his prime.
...nice
That's because he (Cr7) was in a competition with Messi & it drove the two of them to great stats. Nothing more to it. Ronaldo De Lima on the other hand was in no egotistic competition with anyone, he only enjoyed football & entertained everyone. Bringing the number of goals scored into the question asked is so wrong in my opinion. & for your information, Ronaldo De Lima never played with the best team in his career except with Brazil & he lifted them to heights as much as he could. He won the UEFA tournaments (Cup Winners Cup & UEFA Cup) he took part in his prime with both Barcelona & Inter. But Cristiano had the best Man United Team ever & the Best Real Madrid team of the last 40-50years, playing several matches in a year. When you understand these little details, you'll acknowledge who did what. Note: Ronaldo De Lima didn't play Champions League football in his prime because at the time, it's only league winners that represented their countries & his teams were not the best in their respective leagues. When he joined Barcelona, they won Copa del rey & Cup Winners Cup, but lost out on the league in the final weeks. When he joined Inter, he won the UEFA Cup & also lost the league to Juventus in the final weeks because of the difference in quality. Now, that's how good he was. He pulled the teams up but the team couldn't help him in return. He was a mixture of both Messi & Cristiano.
@@bellooricha6866 yeesh
How many of them were penalties?
@@bellooricha6866 I LOVED R9!!!
Seriously. My favourite footballer ever. When I watched him properly he blew Henry out of the water, who was my favourite striker before that.
But in all honesty CR7 had both free kicks AND headers over R9. His hang time in the air is extraordinary!
Both could run with the ball and shoot from distance. But Cristiano's knuckle ball shots and the way they move in the air are just mad!
There are a lot of things to weigh up and regrettably I actually think CR7 takes it.
I'm hoping you don't mind debating, and won't be immature like some of these kids in the comment section. It's all just for fun and our arguments won't actually prove a single thing so there's no need for either of us to be nasty to the other.
Respect.
Ronaldo nickname is Il Fenomeno. Enough said. His combination of skill, speed and strength is unmatched to this day, his injuries robbed us of his greatness
Dude if u say R9 is better than Cr7, then dont watch football anymore. Watch a ballet
@@AZECLANinSWITZERLAND ok
R9. We never even got to see his prime because of the injuries but the peak we saw at such a young age was phenomenal. His nickname was well earned.
that is scary to think, we never saw his true ceiling
Honestly, can't really compare him to CR7. R9 was more of a Messi, really. Godlike finishing and dribbling. Too bad he was cut short cause of his condition that made him fat. =/
Christiano Ronaldo can't even wash feet of Brazilian Ronaldo
@Da he said that without hesitation R9 was the best player he ever played with or against, he said what makes a player special for some is trophies but with R9 everyday I trained with him and everyday I saw something different something beautiful and for him that’s what makes R9 the best , he was talking about the fat injured version of R9 and he still considered him the best . Mourinho is probably the best judge as he saw the best of R9 at Barca and the best of R7 at Madrid first hand . He said R9 was the best player he ever saw .
Typical Loserpool fan.
this is one of the most hilarious episodes ever😂😂
And you would always come back and watch the next episode. 🙄🙄
The first 10mins was crazy funny.
@@revolutionaryleader9615 chill, he didn’t say anything except that it was legit funny. Not criticizing
Dan is such a troll he makes the show watchable and funny
@@anubis8586 I didn't criticise him too🙄🙄
I challenge espn to go 3 days without posting the name 'ronaldo' in a title. Also, the answer is CR7
That challenge won’t ever be complete
@@carrion.adrian7 they're obsessed with bringing him down after he breaks a record.
@@samuelgizaw7899 no, they know the name brings mega clicks.
This comparison is real fun too!
theyve also had this exact question multiple times i distinctly remember
Your comment is the reason they won’t. Wether or not your response is positive or negative they still invoked a reaction.
Remember R9's effortless hat trick at OT. He can score at any angle
CR7 compensates this with a never give up attitude
R9 is a gifted genius, CR is a hardworking genius
The things Ronaldo Nazario was doing at the ages of 19 and 20 are humanly impossible for any other player (Messi and Cristiano included).
like?
I've been watching this show for years and I've never seen Gab laugh. Today I witnessed it and life is complete
He was laughing yesterday listening to Ale talk about cricket
You've obviously not been watching it for years then if you think this is the first time Gab has laughed 🙄
How could he missed that question? It's absolutely baffling to me and even his excuse for why he didn't understood the question didn't make sense 😁
I wonder what he thought Frank was explaining....
@@thebat7048 I think he meant he's never seen Gab laughed in embarrassment like this manner before and he's correct lol. It has never happened before
@@4thGenna. Lol what you talking about he's laughed like that many a time 😂😂
Cr7 has so many primes😄
@Alama Austin of course he is
CR7 had a better career with longevity at the top level. But on their prime, R9 is just unplayable
Problem is cr7 is too complete like fitness speed power and Ariel ability and mostly ronaldo is a brick vs r9 is made of glass. No compare with R9 ability on the ball he is the better player In dribbling but overall game r9 was ok like off the ball movement and sprinting as he was lethal with the ball and ronaldo's off the ball movement and sprinting and Ariel ability what makes ronaldo a better complete player vs dribbling R9 is just better no competition
CR7 > R9... Most comments are comparing goals. Look at their positions, and on top of that, compare the positions they could play to a high standard during those years.
Nonsense
Brazilian Ronaldo for 10000%
@@Larry4life Its about their prime
Stevie's confusion killed me 😂😂 He's funny when he's not being an absolute grump
In their absolute prime - Ronaldo "The phenomenon" was a beast, unplayable. The way he took on teams all by himself was incredible. Sadly, his "prime" was too short and as a result CR7 has had a better career.
CR's prime was 10x better than RN's. The 2011/12 CR was the best this game has ever seen.
@@user-qx5nk6qg2b not 10× better. That's impossible
I've seen CR7 score free kicks that defy the laws of physics as we knew them. Before the age of 25!
In their absolute primes CR7 had about 5 ways of winning you the match, compared to R9's 2 ways.
@@DirtyJamesUK altho im a fan of ronaldo i agree with u man haha. 10x is not possible 🤣
@@user-qx5nk6qg2b i wouldn't say 10 times better , in fact i wouldn't even say it was better as in his prime r9 won 2 copas and a world cup all of those tournaments he was either mvp or top scorer not to mention his mvp tournament in 98 , plus at club level in his prime he regularly scored almost 50 goals a season for teams much weaker than the teams cr7 played in , all in an era where defense was way better than it is today r9 was also technically better he regularly breezed past entire teams to score with his skill moves , speed , close control and stength with the ease the world hasn.t seen since maradona or messi so for that reason u could say the peaks are very comparable , also peak r9 scored two in a world cup final against oliver kahn who was the best goal keeper in the world by far at the time
I think R9 ronaldo playing at that level during that era opens the eye of future player like messi, ronaldo, ronaldinho, and all . They will be thinking : wow you can actually be fast, powerful and clinic all in one package.. he plays a huge part in modernising the way modern attacker plays…hope future player can study players decision making, instead of fancy wasteful crossover which is a norm seen among youngster now…
He was unstoppable for moments, but he often lost the ball and waited up front, too, I must say.
@@Regulification if you talking about r9 he didn't play as a striker was more like midfielder beating 4 or 5 players a goal scoring both feet or assisting in his prime untouchable
We all know how Ronaldo was neutralized by Gattuso when he faced Milan back during the Milan glory days. R9 faced prime Nesta, Maldini, Costacurta, Ferrara, Thuram etc.... Easy choice and he scored 40 against those monsters...before footballers became sissies
At his peak R9 was absolute monster but in longevity it was Cr7 but R9 was something else in world cups & the man have played three world cup finals something what Cr7 can never do in his life time now. After R9 brazil have not won a world cup.
Cr7 won three champions league in a role something r9 can never do.. And let me remind you that world cup is just a one month trophy.. It can never be compared to a seasonal trophy
@@sarpthekr8tor123 I consider the world cup to be above all the other trophies
@@nissarpa1259 does it make Geroud better Than Lewandowski
@@nissarpa1259 And do you mean if a player wins 7 matches to win a trophy in just a month it makes him a phenomenal player?
@@sarpthekr8tor123 Giroud have scored because of Mbappe or else he would not score even a single goal.
Cr7, no question. Although R9 was a brilliant striker
@King facts
Yup r9 was great but never was at the consistency of cr7 that dude is unreal just year after year
For u not for me
@King lol you crying penaldo fans. why are you commenting everywhere about messi ? 😂 Is he your favourite footballler ?
Man said no question 🤣🤣🤣 you lot are ill
I'm not gonna answer the question because they're two completely different type of players, but on their prime, imagine having CR7 on the wing and R9 as the focal point.. Defenders would have had nightmares day in day out...
No, they are not! CR7 complete player
@@Kommaer 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ahmedmo1905 guy. I am watching football 20y and I am not the worst defender. And even more! i am clever guy! So you can laugh at urself
@@Kommaercool story
It is about 3% of all story to the moment ;D
In their prime, I would say R9.
Original ronaldo had dribbling skills like messi (never seen a player take on players and goalkeepers as much as R9), had strength like Lukaka, speed like sane, finish like Inzaghi. Complete striker.
"The guy is lost psychologically" is the greatest ever insult 😂😂😂
It's not CR7's fault that R9 lacked the same desire and discipline and his career was riddled with injuries.
It's not R9's fault that Cristiano lacked the same talent as him
CR7 is not fit to polish R9's shoes.
@@jatin2616 😂
@@jatin2616 R9 is a human being, and CR7 isn’t. Even if he wasn’t injured, he’s not on the same class as CR7, and or Messi. As matter of fact, Ronaldinho was a 100 times better than Brazilian Ronaldo.
@@jatin2616 Ronaldo won 5 Ballondor’s in the same era as Messi who is the most talented of all time…
R9 had flashes of brilliance… CR7 has been brilliant for 15 seasons and counting
CR7
Even tho CR7 played 9 total tournaments world cup and Euro championship he still haven't score as many goals as R9 has score in 3 world cup and 2 copa america with no pk. I'm pretty sure Cr7 half his goals are Pk.
@@r9trstvr9trstv71 people like you annoy me the most ,know your facts before talking
Lol no, only true football fans acknowledge that R9 is the real Ronaldo. The fake diving Portugese Ronaldo is nothing but a start padder whose entire career revolves around being jealous of Messi. R9 is the greatest striker of all time. Only a moron millennial like you would say that Brazillian Ronaldo had 'flashes' of brilliance. Stick to playing Fifa.
@@r9trstvr9trstv71 and R9 hasn’t even come close to Cr7 club records or his longevity.
@@r9trstvr9trstv71 R9 played with arguably the best Brazil side ever, CR’s Portugal was average until 2016
And Cristiano has 400+ more club goals than him…
Cristiano Ronaldo scored 17 UCL goals in a single season during his prime
R9 was the first player I watched growing up. With all the Nike Brazil commercials on tv and he was at ome point my fav player like he was for probably the rest of the world. Having said that, prime CR7 was a monster and went from best player in the world to out of this world together with Messi.
Not together with Messi but alone ..Messi is level below him
Best Stevie moment ever absolute best what a mad lad
@@jgirtjdij lol go outside and take a walk. Stevie is gold.
@@jgirtjdij I'm sure a European champion and umpteen other majors is worried about you and your idiotic opinion
CR7 as you've labelled them
Such a simple question completely broke Stevie lmao!
@@jgirtjdij 🤣🤣
R9 had more talent but CR7 overall is a better football legend because of the professionalism, hardwork, and dedication he had for football.
@King shutup fam with these dumb comments
And having no major injuries his entire career like Messi. That’s just good fortune when comparing to other Legends. Has nothing to do with professionalism or dedication to football.
@@Nunyabusiness40 No major injuries? How long have you been watching football, kid?
@@Nunyabusiness40 professionalism and dedication give you talent lol.
@@Nunyabusiness40 He has had like 3 major injuries but much less than Messi
R9 was called "The Phenom" for a reason. But I'll pick CR7 all day, every day. The guy is a serial winner and you know whether it's a friendly or a final, he will give it his all.
I don't remember Ronaldinho being called "The Phenom."
@@Friendsshare Take vitamins, they're good for you.
What's a "Phenom" ? It's PHENOMENON !
@@anonymususer1728 Go to Google translate
Change English to Spanish
Type in "The Phenom"
Lmk what comes up :) now go drink a glass of warm milk, you're a cranky baby!
R9 = 2 times world champ
Fake Ronaldo none
This explains Steve’s answers on all the other ESPN videos. He’s clearly losing his marbles
🤣
Objectively CR7.
Did R9 even actually peak?? nobody will ever know…. which is scary because he still won a World Cup with TWO fucked up knees and was still quality as overweight as he became at Madrid
his team was fav to win world cup anyway
@@jdc6354 They almost didn't qualify for 2002 World Cup, they went play-offs. France were the favorites.
@@User-dt1mu I think he means that if he didn't succumb to injury, who knows just exactly what his peak would have been compared to the actual peak because he was stopped by injury of further improvement
Ronaldo peak years was 1996-1998. The best prime player I have seen in 40years for me
Football is a sport ( SKILLS + FITNESS + PROFESSIONALISM). You can’t be good with just one of that. As far as the world cup is concerned, have you looked at the Brazilian team that he played in?
Even Maradona said “if not for injury R9 would be the unquestioned greatest and would make everyone forget about me and Pele”
So what's your point???
@@jeffersonjones3134 init🤣🤣all im hearing is if buts and maybes😩🤣
That was before CR7.
R9 WAS better than Maradona IMHO, but CR7 is probably better than all 3.
Injuries and parties lol
@@DirtyJamesUK better rhan Maradona? Lmfao stick to FIFA, kid 😂😂
the fact that R9 fans NEED to start their sentences with "in their prime" kinda puts the debate to an end, is a career folks not 1 or 2 years
We're debating who is better, not who had a better career
@@guilhermevieira6010 Cristiano scored 60 plus goals for 4 years in a row. he is clear
@@mehulpramod5764 against worse defenders
@@guilhermevieira6010 whom did Ronaldo nazario scored against??
@@mehulpramod5764 maldini, buffon, Thuram, cannavaro...
Seen both play live. R9, come on now. Man was a monster... Played in serie A when there was Maldini, baresi, Nesta, Cannavaro, costacurta, mihalovic, ferrera.... Cant even be bothered to list them all. Man was out of this world.
CR7 for me
This episode was absolute gold, lol!!!
Ronaldo Nazario de Lima in his prime was something else. He played when football was still a contact sport when defenders would send u to hospital with no red card issued.
As a striker, R9. As a winger, CR7. Both phenomenal players at their peak. But CR7 wins overall due to his longevity, hard work and physique. Plus he just offers much more to the table. We never really got to see R9's full potential due to injuries
the question is at their prime i considered as a finisher that would R9 not career while
😂😂😭😭hard work?
Longevity should NEVER be a factor in picking who’s better. Older eras didn’t have advanced medical technology, science, techniques…. But plus rules back then were more rough. Players like Pele, Maradonna, R9 get tackled many times before defenders get fouled or yellow card. Their bodies were more badly beaten than current players now.
@@idakristinedemesa5234 You have somewhat of a point. I don't like to compare players from different eras overall. But longevity is still a key factor. There are players today that are similarly injury prone af even with all the advancements in technology and softer rules. There were strikers in R9's era that went on fine. R9 was just one of the unfortunate players with his injuries. They weren't ordinary injuries dealt by other players.
@@idakristinedemesa5234 Even then CR7 thumps
It’s common sense c Ronaldo had a better career ,Ronaldo was good for like 3-4 years but injuries and people just think he won World Cup by himself but in reality that Brazilian team was just stacked
Exactly Brazil had a legendary team R9 was incredible and probably the best striker ever but he cannot be compared with Cr7
R9 never reached his prime. But he is the most talented player in the history of football.
Messi is more talented
How do you know if he never reached his prime? He won three FIFA player of the year
@@thetechnerd7467 0 world cups
@@thetechnerd7467 Nah
Ronaldinho was the most talented in my opinion but it's close
Those of us who had the pleasure of seeing r9 play, you'll kno it!!!!!!. He was unstoppable, unplayable. Be honest
Prime Cr7 was a terrifying beast. The guy scored 50+ goals every season with 20-25 assists. He was and still am a big game player. Cr7 anyday.
That is your opinion sure but R9 was simply better at his prime and by far. And we are talking about a R9 prime when he was only 19, 20 years old vs the very highest level of Cristiano's prime.... that alone right there should tell you something
@@usctrojanfreakcr7 prime different level
Prime Cristiano can literally beat you every frickin way. Pace, long shot target, in the air.... etc. There has never been a player so complete like CR7 so it's easy choice for me. CR7
Even tho R9 was similar to that in his prime, I agree 100%, CR7 in his prime was unlike anything we’ve ever seen
@@honestpenaldo no one is talking about him😂😂
@@historianofmanythings4294 It's facts tho. The burning facts
@@honestpenaldo Yeah good luck getting him a cross for a header…
@@Eyeyorot no it’s not. No weak foot or heading, average penalties.
R9 at his peak was a better footballer, but CR7 is greater because of his longevity, goal scoring record, & achievements. What he’s doing at 36 is unmatched.
@King it's not even abt messi. Messi lives rent free in ur head 😂😂
@@Charlie_Nice Not overrated at all. Messi lives rent free in your head.🤡
@@Messi-hl9cw Stop watching football, kid
If you had to win one game though, who you picking?
@@Charlie_Nice stop clowning, get a hobby.
People forget R9 played in the most talented country team in history of football.
If you put prime CR7 on the German or French team that's the same thing.
Thats why we should look at players club career rather than national career. You can choose where you play , cant choose where were you born . If r9 was born in diff country ,nobody wouldn't make this comparison.
Take away longevity, objectively speaking when both were at their absolutely unstopppable best, R9 was a creature out of the universe. R9 for me, thought it is incredibly arguable
You can’t take away longevity when comparing players in their prime and how long their prime lasted while dominating their competition
R9 never came close to 69 in a season stop it
@@Eli-yk4ht R9 never played in a crappy league, stop it. No one today has scored 70 goals in Serie A, let alone back in the 90s when it was the greatest league to ever exist. Maybe look at something other than stats for once.
@@handzar6402 neither has CR7, are you dumb? He literally 3 premier league titles and has been considered the best in each of those three seasons. And not to mention the premier league actually is the toughest league.
@@handzar6402 He never won a serie a btw
I would love to see ESPN do a compilation of bloopers this would be hilarious 🤣 😂😆
wait, This isn't it?
That might take up an entire episode. Not that I'll complaining mind you 🤣
That’s a great call
Don’t even entertain this debate, CR7 is miles clear…
“ miles clear “??? You don’t know football... go watch netball
I don’t get how people are trynna call R9 better than Cr7 💀. 5 Ucl, 4 UCL final goals, 700+ goals, 110+ international goals, 5 Balon dors. There’s literally no debate you can make for R9
@@PapiChulo6921 one scored against germany, argentina, england, italy and netherlands while the other one scores against andorra, faroe islands, lithuania, latvia and san marino
Ronaldo scored in World Cup finals. Your idol has always disappeared in the World Cup…
@@honestpenaldo Cr7 scored 50+ goals in multiple seasons ,r9 never did . End of debate
Frank is the ULTIMATE!!! I love the question he asked Gab. In their absolute primes, who scored the most goals? The answer is CR7!
"Why would you not pick a team to win?", Dan is always on the money.
Cr7 2010/2011 more goals more assists more changes created more free kicks less chances missed
Not all about the stats if u watched r9 play there’s no way u take cr7 over him
You forgot the most important stats kid: penalties. Lol
@Rehaan no way
@@gettjerry2362 yes you would. Prime CR7 was the complete package.
@@chaditaqi2911 R9 was faster more powerful better dribbler
Who is saying that in prime R9 scored 49 goals in 47 matches for their kind information CR7 scored 450 goals in 431 matches for Real Madrid. If Talent is the only criteria then Neymar and hazard would have been in the top 7 of all time.
Not hazard but Neymar yes
@@reyanshtripathi1799 Bro don't underestimate hazard In his prime he was doing some unbelievable solo goals by dribbling past 4-5 players. After Messi I have seen Only hazard some invincible solo dribbling goals. Ronaldinho and neymar probably best free style players. But dribbling past 4-5 players and scoring solo goals of hazard was something soothing to eyes.
In prime time, no other player equals R9. Phenomeno
R9 should have never gone to Seria A, especially during that period of time. One of the most physical leagues. But R9’s one season at Barcelona was phenomenal.
His time at Inter up until the knee injury was pretty epic as well
CR7 was better in his prime.
But then again, R9 never even reached his prime.
R9 won Brazil the world cup all by himself with 2 destroyed knees, where the best doctors told him that he would never play again.
Also R9 mastered Serie A when it was at its strongest, you obviously never watched R9 live in his prime so shut the F up
@@ZelenikTchingy chill bro im 33 of course i did. Cant forget that hair too. Ok what im trying say is, despite his feat in the worldcup even with those injuries, i still think R9s ceiling is much2 higher than ronaldo. Its just that CR7 futfilled 100% of his potential and kept it for much longer than R9.
@@ZelenikTchingy also the brazil squad was stacked during those days. Cafu, roberto, rivaldo, ronaldinho are all legends of the game.
@@khairulnizam922 Dude he won that world cup AFTER 2 CAREER ENDING INJURIES.
Just to make that clearer:
Fernando Torres had 1 knee injury 2010 and after that was never the same and was trash
Kaka also played world cup 2010 injured and after that never was the same
Umtiti played the world cup 2018 injured and now is an disabled player
And R9 had 2 CAREER ENDING INJURIES and still fired them with 8 goals to the title.
Also R9 played in Serie A when it was the best league OF ALL TIME, all legends played there, defending was an art back then, defenders followed you till the half line and the ref didn't call a foul that easily as it is now
@@khairulnizam922 Ronaldinho was not in his prime 2002, he was world class 2004-2006.
Rivaldo is never mentioned when one asks "Who are the best strikers of all time", nobody would say Rivaldo
R.Carlos and Cafu 2002 were the best full backs, that's true
I have been there for R9s entire career. I don‘t think he ever really peaked. He was an amazing talent, maybe even the greatest talent, but CR7 simply outperformed him. CR7s best season dwarves R9s best season. Stevie even forgot R9 ever existed🤣
Only in consistency THATS IT.... anything else no way!!
@@UpShir67 these guys don't have a clue about R9 prime
@@originalnutzie4409 performance. CR7 scored more in 3 seasons in Serie A than R9 scored in 7(!) seasons. R9s best season doesn‘t even make it into CR7s top seasons list. It‘s not just consistency. It‘s a completely different standard.
@@UpShir67 entertainment value is immeasurable. Nobody can tell you what to find entertaining. I found Jay-Jay Okocha entertaining. Still he is not among the greats. Different topic.
@@UpShir67 thats what I mean but even stats R9 was breaking records at such a young age which is SCARY.... even skills that he done 20 odd years ago modern player's are still trying to do them 🤣
I think Steve's forgetfulness was more entertaining than the discussion itself.
I still remember when at Barcelona R9 preferred to dribble the goalkeeper than to shoot. For the goalkeeper was impossible to avoid being scored as R9 always past-by him. In their Prime : 1.- R9, 2.- Ronaldinho, 3.- CR7
Ronaldo9 was the most unplayable person on a football field I have ever seen in my life . May not have had the length of career though.
Messi is the most unplayable. Historically and statically
@@drakegeralds699 nah not as unplayable as a prime r9
@@drakegeralds699 💯🐐
@@gettjerry2362 no bro messi was unplayable
@@gettjerry2362 Messi in his 20s is better than prime R9. But again,they’re 2 different players and different positions as well
Stevie going bizzare on the Ronaldo ques. even Frank's book can't help him 😂🤣😂🤣
El Fenonemo, 'in his prime' was the single greatest one man wrecking machine I have ever seen.
Alongside Messi. But Messi was more complete in his prime
@@dishkaa93fcb10 i love messi but ronaldo was more dangerous he didnt need link up play he did it all on his own
@@tonron888 Messi in his prime was the most dangerous player i have ever seen no offense man, unstoppable
@@dishkaa93fcb10 Ronaldo in his prime still most dangerous headers, weak foot, dribbling, volleys, so many different ways which he was nearly unguardable in
@@dishkaa93fcb10 na u never seen ronaldo play! I seen both
R9 faced defensive monsters in Serie A, Serie A in the 90's and early 2000's was stronger than the Prem today every star played in Serie A.
R9 has better skill but Cr7 is better the man can do everything he's the 2nd best player of all time in my book maybe 1st
@King penaldwear spotted
@@Messi-hl9cw CR7 was better overall, R9 was more entertaining to watch, the Puskas goal that Son scored, R9 did it on a daily basis
After pele
@@maxamedsaleban5529 LMAO YOUR JK RIGHT
@@maxamedsaleban5529 Pele is 5th on my list I'm taking Maradona over pele
That's the most I've ever seen Stevie lose it! This is why the show is such a hidden gem. Absolutely hilarious.
Father Time reaching Stevie's medulla, but Frank's "you're losing your mind" had me crying
Number doesn’t lie CR7
World cups don’t either R9
@@joegrine9234 wc 2002 was the worse world cup in history
At his prime R9 scored 49 goals in 47 matches with a weak Barca. Numbers don't lie dude
@@joegrine9234 ballon d’or does either the goals doesn’t either all time highest goal scorer in history the goat 🐐
@@joegrine9234 if Ronaldo had that team he will win every time
This is the stupidest title I’ve ever seen
Such an amazing program, really spontaneous!
Well done ESPN
I think you can hear the people working on the set laughing in the background bc this episode was that funny lmaoo
Cr7 lol why’s this a debate
Why’s this a debate? Listen, you 12 year old kid, R9 was way better than the tap-in merchant that is your idol…
They are talking about prime, CR7 is an average dribbler, R9 at prime is miles ahead of that robotic dribbler.
It's talking about pure prime. If you've watched R9 at his absolute best in his first season at Barca and his first season at Inter, you'll realise why it's very difficult to choose. Personally I'd go with with R9 but that's just my opinion.
If you look at the whole career and longevity, CR7 is obviously better
@@idontmakecontent4870 You call him a kid but then call Ronaldo “Penaldo” 😂
@@EM-kn9im I never said Penaldo, kid
Cr7 can do everything in the game simply the goat
Facts
Except assists and playmaking😂 He just camp in the penalty box waiting to be fed.
So can peak R9 and a much better dribbler and playmaker than CR7.
@@JohnyKurbahMusic And also has been washed at dribbling for years, even at United he was just a step over merchant
Can't stand in a wall lmao remember porto....🤣🤣🤣
There's no contest. R9 is streets ahead in his prime. CR7 needs quality service constantly, R9 scored goals by himself. Bursting past defenders with speed,power,skill he had everything. Its scary to think what he could of become if his knee didn't pop out.
I understand that but I believe that doing it for a longer period of time is the difference between the two. Alas, R9's injuries were devastating but at the end of the day people don't truly appreciate how long CR7 has been doing it for
@@rohithraman6488 the question was in their prime dummy so stfu already with longevity... give me 2002 ronaldo any day of the week vs cr7
@@rohithraman6488If r9 didn't have any injuries ever he would have played in his prime from when he was 19-21-23 until his 30 years and would have only gotten better
@@legendarygaming5045 oh of course. But CR7 for me should still be considered one of the greats, but unfortunately there is a lot of recency bias cause of the way his time at man utd ended and his move to Saudi arabia
I have tears in my eyes, this ep is amazing
Since we’re talking about prime time, R9 was far better. It ain’t even close, and I’m a CR7 fan. For longevity, CR7 would be the answer obviously.
R9 was better but its close. 2013 Ronaldo was a force of nature
R9 woulda. Been the real GOAT had he kept his career in check sadly he didn’t
R9 Prime is equal to CR7 bad or normal season says it all... You will realise how good CR7 is only when he retires.
Agreed 👍 a 1000%
@@dakshbiala56 I agree. He was in an era where teams took pride in their defensive prowess R9 imposed a level of fear against most of elite defenders that’s unmatched to this day! Can’t say that about CR7 with all due respect to the work he’s done.
The real Ronaldo Dimasario R9, he’s also called phenomenon 😂
@King why do u keep commenting this
@@ulf.israel cause he's a virgin who is in desperate need for attention since nobody gives it to him
@@honestpenaldo you're a person to speak 🤣 lol 😆 look at yourself in the mirror buddy 🤣
Man the more and more Stevie messed up the question the harder and harder I was laughing with them 😂😂😂😂😂
If I could watch just one game of one Ronaldo in his prime then I’m going with R9 all day. Absolutely beautiful futbol and magic! CR7 became my favorite after R9 retired, but R9 will always be my favorite player of all time. Too smooth!
I think Cristiano is the GOAT, but pre-injuries R9 was the best player I've ever seen hands-down. That 1996/97 season at Barcelona was something else, R9 is the youngest ever Balon d'Or winner for a reason. The man had it all: size, speed, strength, technique, composure, flair...
GOAT🤦🏾, wow that’s old
Only thing he lacked was proper discipline. If he had that his longevity could have been increased. Imagine a footballer with R9’s talent. Which IMO surpasses both. Messi and Ronaldo’s talent. Ronaldo’s discipline, and Messi’s dribbling. 🥶🥶
Maybe if he was better @Penalties & scored more Free-kicks 😉
fully agree with Gab.. Brazilian Ronaldo in his prime was sensational, one person wonder..
Dang his prime was short which makes cr7 better
Absolutely right. R9 in his prime before all the knee injuries was hands down the best player in the world. No one could touch him in his prime. Go watch the highlights of him carrying 4 defenders on his back and shaking them off and scoring. And this is coming from a lifelong United fan since the early 1980's. CR7 made himself into what he is today by taking his talent and through pure determination and hard word making the most of it. R9 was just insanely naturally talented but lacked discipline and took for granted that even playing hung over and out of shape he was still the best player on the pitch.
2 of my all time favorite. As a no salty football fan, i have to say each of them had something unique in them. R9 on unbelievable speed , skills and finishing.and cr7 long shout , crazypace , best areal threat and unique finish. I have a dream team of putting both of them in front and messi(best i have seen alongside r9 in term of talent) behind them. I have a utmost regard , love and respect of each them. Real football fans will never forget them.
CR7 scored like 60 goals for like 4 consecutive years and won three champions league in a row. You can't make that prime level.
With 150 penalties
@@user-ry4lu4sn9x 150 penalties in 1000+ games. Stop crying
2 player who played different options 🤔, but Brazil 🇧🇷 Ronaldo is the best #9 ever!!!!!!!
Thierry Henry? He was better, you name Ronaldo because of bandwagon and also because he played for Barca and Madrid, you would have said the same for Henry if he had played for Madrid instead of Arsenal 😐
@@letshaveadiscussion5113 that was his opinion and you.
Can. Have yours too. Go to 😴
Listen Henry who makes me support arsenal.i don't rate no footballer like Thierry,and for your information I don't watch la liga, English premier league straight, just stating facts.
But its not the number 9 question... The question is who would you pick
@Zidane Gormandy you drunk? He was literally a number 9 in 2011-2012 he played Striker
at their peak R9 he was truly a phenomeno
Cr7 clear
@@yunasadan3907 Born after 1990?
When exactly was CR7's prime, the GOAT has been banging in at least 40 goals a season for the last 12 years,
Where did u get this lie😪
@@zoans6731 since was straight facts lies
@@zoans6731 🤣🤣your a Messi the goat person, ok, talented but facts are Barca gave him growth hormones when he was younger, without firstly wouldn't have been as good and secondly, would never have played professional football, how many of the current records on goalscoring does Messi have Vs Ronaldo, zero
And do scoring goals make you better?
@@jatoocaleb7507 when those goals win your team titles consistently, yes they do,
Omggg I laughed so much!! Best panel ever!!! Keep it up!! Still laughing over here!!!!! hahahahaa :)
Messi and ronaldo are playing at the highest level for 15+ years. R9 was at his best only for 2-3 years. There are many instances when messi and ronaldo were unplayable. You cant remember cause they are doing the same stuff for years.Its easy to chose when you maintain a level for a season or 2. But they were in thier primes for 15 years. And also the most prolific (i dont agree) Striker was not able to score 91 goals in a year nor 73 goals
Facts
2-3yrs lmao... dude won 2002 and still played till 2006 and beyond
@@jponz85 How many goals he scored?
@@jponz85 And idiot, i am talking about being unplayable.
@@jponz85 He wasn't in his prime then. He had a brilliant world cup and remained a great finisher, yet a prime R9 was at his best between 96-99. That was when his ability as a dribbler and solo goalscorer was at it's best.
R9 hands down unfortunately he didn’t had a long career like CR7 because of his bad knee injury and bad choice he made
"Legendary forward Ronaldo Nazario scored 88 of his goals by sitting the goalkeeper down and rounding them. The Brazilian scored 414 goals in 616 appearances for club and country throughout his career. One of his greatest talents was the way he could glide past goalkeepers and that's shown in this ridiculous stat."
414 in 616 is cool but cr7 scored 450 in 438
Ronald De Lima is a legend!!! The best Brazilian forward of all time and he also has won the World Cup.
Cristiano, and Messi are the best club players, but when it comes to national teams they are simply not. Brazilian Ronaldo alone has two world cups, twp Copa America's, and one intercontinental title. Pele has three world cups, and maradona has one. I don't know why everybody forgets about those
Because their fan boys knows their GOATS are not successfull on a international level as much as r9
94 world cup Ronaldo was 17 and didn't even play sooooo its one world cup AND at prime Brazilian Rolando was best forward in modern Era
@@footballfan5961 but he was good enough to be picked and therefore got a medal
it's only one world cup, the other one they didn't need him so it doesn't count.
Put Messi in Prime Spain and CR7 in Prime Brazil.They both would have 2WCs each scoring 2x R9 ever did.Mbappe is better than Messi and CR7 according to you. Oversensitivity knows no bounds it seems😂
R9 was just a beast of himself. When he was in prime, defender was just praying or even scared playing against him. He's was the best #9 ever. His speed was just a nightmare for the defender, his shooting is just on point, even he's blinfolded, he will still scored easily. He was physically strong. He's a complete striker.
he dont take freekick and his header is bad. So R9 still doesnt consider as complete striker compared to CR7
@@waikiankhoo8746 he's still a beast no matter what. He's unstoppabble. I'll take him anyday.
@@alvinstv yea thats just personal preference afterall. So.... i get u. Talking about unstoppable.... messi is the real unstoppable. U can search for R9 'unstoppable' video and compared to messi 'unstoppable' video, messi video will impressed more than anything. The point i wanna say is, the word 'unstoppable' should be used sparingly.
In the air, CR7 is unstoppable
On the ground, messi is unstoppable
The past great players cannot come close to these two.
@@waikiankhoo8746 Nobody cares for videos when we've seen them both live many times. Prime R9 was a different level than both Messi and CR7. Both Messi and CR7 have better careers, but in their prime, it's Ronaldo El Fenomeno all the way.
@@liberalhedonist6196 lol then ur eyes must be real blind if u cannot see how messi dribbles the ball and u cannot differetiate the difficulty of his dribble. R9 is a decent dribbler.... but not at messi level. Just go be ur fan boy. lol. No point arguing with a fanboy because they are blinded.
This is the best extra time ever!!!
R9 Fenomeno was the best in his prime. ❤️
R9 was the better talent CR7 had the better career, R9 didnt even have a prime he was very unfortunate
Cristiano is better all around cr7 is a leader a goal machine and Cristiano was a midfielder in manU r9 don’t compare not even close
@@israelcena9560 No real United fan called the club ManU, you moron. I've supported the club for 40 years and have seen both R9 and CR7 live in their prime. There is no comparison. R9 was far better and unstoppable. I love CR7 and United, but gotta be honest - there is no comparison. R9 could not be stopped.
Anabolic steroids at PSV Eindhoven . Big mistake.