MEGA PROM | Huge Trussing Setup | GIG LOG 034
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Everyone seemed like they were low on energy. GIVE THEM ALL SOME COFFEE OR ENERGY DRINKS! ;)
+CJDJS Discos should have bought some 5 hour energy and tossed it out lol
or some pills
That whole crowd CANNOT dance
That Blackguy74 cuz they grinding that's why
love seeing the camera shake to the bass
Great production with a lot of hard work and talent going into it.
Things noticeably missing:
1. Hazers (not your fault)
2. Molly
3. Foam LED light sticks
4. Large, excited crowd, ready to party! lol
That breaker MUST!!! have been connected /linked to another Outlet that is being used already. When i Do big productions like this, i always Distribute the power. There outlets under the benches and on the side of them . I use every single outlet in the gym. I use Lots and LOTS of extension cords. and ive never Tripe a breaker. But hey it could also be the wiring of the building.
This poped back up in my feed and still love this one.. Think it's one of your best ever events...
Awesome gig log! I remember seeing this setup on your snap a couple weeks ago, and I was so excited to see this video uploaded today. Such a shame you couldn't use haze/fog. The majority of high school events I have done won't allow it either. Hope to see you doing more of these big production gigs they're quite interesting. I hope to reach that level of production someday soon!
been watching your gig logs, and it´s really nice to see your progress thru no time practically. I also heard you saying wanting to start on big production set ups and shows, we´ll from my own experience I can tell you it´s way different from what you´re used to do, but totally worth it, for example, firts off you need to secure your power connection, and separate sound, lights and wahtaever else, say FX each on a single output, you use special equipment for that, what you experience on this gig with the amp was a too low ampere circuit breaker, that amp (crown 9000) should be connected to a 40amp (using 110v) circuit breaker minimun. But, you just need to learn this type of things and then lots of hands on work. Again, totally worth it! Great videos, & keep the record spini´n
that's neat the crazy seaweed lets the beams effect be seen without haze
Decent setup but haze would've boosted this by 1000%
Right!
@@DJRickWeb Awesome setup though don't get me wrong!
i'm dying over all of the guys looking and dancing exactly the same.
aside from that, this is insane. there's so much going on with all of the lighting and stuff. looks great though man. keep it up. I've been waiting to see this since you posted the pictures on snapchat
Judson Taylor grind time
The Truss and Lights are Sick. Mad Props to you!!!!!
For a gym prom, the production was great! Usually here in LA high schools have prom at halls, museums, county clubs etc. so it's cool to see the gym transformation.
+Dj B-Rod a lot of schools in that area just transform there gyms so they can save money. But my home down rents halls but they dont do any production stuff
This was a great gig log bro. You guys went in all the way. Love the setup here.
+DJ B4EY thanks
Thanks for sharing this. By the way, you really need to pay a visit to a production theater, and talk to their engineer about what they use to provide power for mega consumption rigs like this. I'm pretty sure you'll need to be going into a 27, or 30 amp, 240 supply, and then into a portable circuit breaker box, into a step down to 110 for the lighting, with appropriate outlets. You'll need at least a dozen dedicated breakers, some of which being for the high amp/voltage. That was an amazing setup. Well done! :)
ThomasGrillo I have always wondered how DJs and other bands power their speakers. There was this festival in our town, they had 4 line-arrays and 9 subwoofers that were at least 2000 Watts each. So that’s over 18,000 watts for the subwoofers alone. I looked around back, turns out they had two 9,500 gallon gas trailers with generators that could power a small town. But I have always been amazed how smaller gigs can power over 4,000 watts of speakers off one or two outlets at 90+ dB.
You have better lighting than my local nightclub and that holds more people and charges outrageous prices for drinks
Wow, that a pretty big rig. I love the use of the Dyna Wheels in the middle.
+Jose Heredia thanks. Was a neat idea
3 phase power distro for all production rigs of this size.
we have run something like 3 x 3phase power distros
Great set up! Good $ for you and the company you work for. Your energy was there. The students energy was not. They over estimated the crowd for the setup they got. Great job Web!
+Dj Cazzper they had no energy. The room was a little big for the amount too
it was funny the way you said, that the braker tripped about 12 times on the sub amp.
Yeh that CROWN 9000i is a tripper
Dude, that was so crazy!!! Haha been waiting for this since the snapchats. Awesome job, Rick. I liked that tripod behind the booth for a bit of your set too. It was cool to hear and see a few transitions. Thanks for the vid, man!
+Bradley Robert good to hear you like that format of videoing. Takes up more storage but easier to film
Crazy lighting setup !!! Good job 👏
Bad ass set up!!!!👌🏻👌🏻
Shout out from Los Angeles CA.✌🏻✌🏻
You killed it, Rick! What a weekend!
I have similar low output issues with my Pioneer SX2. I either run it through a Yamaha mixer like yours, or a dbx goRack for the added required headroom.
Hope you got some rest after this. Finals loom soon, I imagine!
+Atomic Music already way passed finals now. This gig is 5 weeks old now. But as you will see in the next few weeks ill catch back up on uploads. I have done 4 more proms since this. No rest time. Only had easter weekend off.
Killed it man, one of the best gig logs yet! Had to do the exact same thing to push more gain out of my pioneer ddjsb2 last weekend... Had the master level at full, mixer gain at unity, and speaker gains at full to get things where they should be.
+Brian Diener pioneer controllers dont seem to have that loud of sound cards. My american audio vms 4.1 had tons of gain the master never went passed 12 a clock
The DDJ SZ has a standalone mixer in the unit. The SSJ SB does not have a mixer built into the unit. It only has a sound card. You really don't need powered mixers unless your controller does not have external mixer in the unit.
DDJ-SZ, SZ2, SX, SX2 are all controllers that have standalone mixing capabilities.
Oh gotcha, that makes sense
Ya haze is a pain in the ass to get approved. But, at least in CA, most modern buildings dont have beam detectors anyway.
Welcome to the big leagues. Those Crown amps were made to push MASSIVE speakers in stadiums with line arrays and subs. Unrelentless power only managed by a audio engineers limiters and mixer settings. The amps on powered speakers are a joke compared to raw amps as we like to call them. A "powered" speakers amp is precisely made for that application knowing that they are going to be used to play YMCA at a wedding or the occasional DJ who thinks he is at Creamfields thinking he is Tiesto. Extreme Limiters and compression are built in to "try" to prevent blowing - preventing a warranty claim. Passive is the way to go when you learn to set it up right! You can crush a venue (sound wise) with a passive system and in my opinion easier to setup.
hazer's would've made this gig so much better, loving the fact that the subs are making the camera shake tho lol
16:51 that drop of tracks awesome the whole setup is brilliant you rocked it dude
Dave Finch o
Woooww... Eres un excelente dj, y tienes un muy buen equipo de Audio y show de luces, Simplemente # CHINGON # , Como decimos aca en MEXICO.
Congratulations # FELICIDADES #
One big fat gig, smothered in awesomesauce! wtg, amigo!
Rick I need to tell you something...
YOU ARE A FRICKIN BOSS!!
In my country we have 16 Amps on 230 Volts per group. :) so that would be around 3600Watts.
That was awesome!!!!!!!! Also luxurious!!!!!!
Great set-up but them kids seamed pretty mellow!?!?
+TOTAL Entertainment thats how this school just is. Doesnt change at all year to year
Dude the duel 18s r hitting HARD
so much experience and knowledge for someone so young you'll be making a lot of waves in the industry when you get into your 30s. you deserve some props man!
+Joninh thanks a lot man.
On your sub issue, I have the same problem. I run two 18 from on amp, and the two 18s of of an other amp which is tied into another power conditioner. The voltage draw on the amp and power condition from four 18s is to much. This will aloow your sub amps to work more efficiently and you'll get more volume to boot! Hope that helps.
You did it the right way. Most DJs attempt to use Powered speakers to handle a gym. You get more control and better sound from passive sound reinforcement system than PA. Next time separate the amplifiers to different outlets with extension cords or reduce the volume from the amplifier so it will not draw too much power. Good job!
+Marco Casarrubias the sub amp was on its own circut 20 amp breaker with nothing else on it.
Great log here!
I remember my freshman year of highschool, all of my and my friends were gamers and just awkward. I was always the one who was loud n shit and I remember at the beginning of a winter dance I was the first one to start dancing on the dance floor, then all of my friends came out obvi cause homies stick together. Then finally everyone else finally came out to dance. I was proud of myself that night xD Now that i'm getting into DJ'ing, the when i see the first person starting to dance it reminds me of when I was a kid being the first to dance xD
with that amp rack and Macrotech 9000i they should have brought a power distro, it effiecient but you need a 30amp circuit on dual jbl srx 700 subs at 4ohms. thats a professional touring amplifier when you get into big productions with sound and lighting, always use a power distro and external diesel generator. most schools dont have breakouts camlocks for distros you have to have a licenced electrician go in and hard wire it. let me know if you have any questions
That was awesome man
GREAT JOB MAN!
Awesome!! Yep they should have used a 60amp 230v circuit to a distribution Box that cleaned and conditioned it to 3-20amp 120V circuits...
There is no 230 or 220 outlets in the gym. Only 110 plugs.
Something like this LEX 3RU Rack Mount Power Distribution if there's a box you can get to.
Awesome setup man really nice!!
And those subs and amp should not have broken the breaker unless it was to weak🤔 fellow dj has those and we used them at a home event and no problem!
You're off the scale Rick! What next? It's insane. Us 80-120 crowd mobile DJ's can only watch and admire....
+djme123 trying to work on some big stuff but ill be back to those tyoe gigs soon.
I use Pro X truss its just as good as global and or chauvet, and its all interchangeable, and yes programming lighting scenes is tedious, one hell of a set up, i separate my movements and color schemes also
That was insane! AWESOME.
+Bayardo A Rugama yes sir. Thanks for stopping in barr!
Bayardo A Rugama what up man
Bayardo A Rugama ayy dj barr
My two favourite DJ vlogger :D
Shout out to DJ Barr!!!!!!
Love the setup
thank you for listing song play list as you go
Nice dj rick Webb
This is insane (favorite DJ vlogger)
+Skrillex Fan101 thanks
Hey bud, I know this is late response, but I been running 2 macro tech 9000i amps and 4 srx 738 and 4 srx 718s for about 8 years.
I can power 1 ma9000i, 2 srx738, 2 srx718s and my entire dj table in one 15 amp line. I never clipped the breaker.
The trick is to connect the amps to audio architecture software and set output limiters and voltage limiters in the amp.
So you must not have had a dedicated 15 amp line and/or the limiters need to be more aggressive set to kick in.
setup was on point. can't believe you tripped the breaker 12 times. Lol that's crazy
+David Vallejo just the sub amp. So nothing happened other than the subs would turn off. Tops were still going
@@DJRickWeb do you mean that you had no bass for 12 times and every time you had to leave the booth to plug that in again?
Nice gig bro. I saw you run out in the crowd and get jiggie wit it.
Are you one best dj rick Webb I love your lights
Its always wise to check power requirements, most of those sockets are probably there for the cleaning of the auditorium, a rig of that size will require a 3 phase distribution rack. if in doubt ask an electrician or events co-coordinator for there advice. i'm an electrician from the UK so our socket/power arrangement is slightly different from the US, however its basically the same rules.
Bear in mind, each time the breaker trips it slightly de-rates, so that 15 amp breaker may trip at 14..13...12 maybe. If it trips 12 times it probably is no longer the amperage that it says it is.
That is one big downside to passive systems they can be a absolute nightmare with the amp rack and having different amps on each speaker it can be a hassle so I personally will stick with active as it is a lot less work and they tend to be a bit more power efficient
We're having 230V with max 16 amp, thats
enough for our amps :P
Over lit.
frickin amazing
Love the setup! Only thing though is there doesn't seem to be much hype with the music or crowd. I know high schoolers all like hip hop the most nowadays but I find if you combine hip hop with EDM and top-40 remixes it really helps build the hype especially if you incorporate Co2 cannons or confetti cannons at drops with good MCing. To me I feel like I'm not doing a good job unless peoples hands are in the air at least 50% of the time. What we do is bring in 1 or 2 big name local DJs for proms and homecomings. I usually play hip-hop and throwbacks the first hour or two while people are coming in and eating and then have a headliner destroy it once the lights go out :)
+SoundStorm Productions that is what this high school is. Not know for liking anything hype. I tried. They stop dancing when turn down for what came on. Also co2 was used last year and the kids didnt care for it so they didnt bring it back. Just a interesting school
If you weren't allowed to use haze, why did you program a lot of ariel effects? I would have had an equal balance between wash and spot/beams for that size crowd so there was more light on them. Just a thought. Truss setup was cool though.
+DJBENVLOGS that was the lighting they requested for the event. Wasnt our choice
Gotcha gotcha. Hit me up sometime. Let's chat.
DJJAMINVLOGS I think that’s bullshit those schools don’t know shit to request he just made a bad choice but web is cool he just went with what he knew and it didn’t work just admit we don’t always get it right
You=👍🏽
Crowd=👎🏽
Only time they faced each other was to slow dance!
Awesome setup! I enjoy these videos much better than the college ones but it's good to see you in different situations.
+KYSO Entertainment agree and thanks. Keep up your vids to man. I have been watching them too
Hey man. Those amps are ultimately designed to run on a 40A or larger circuit. on big subs I run 2 amps and will desperate the circuits out among the amps.
Also that Crown MAcro Tech 9000i requires like it's own 20 or 30 amp circuit, that was probably just a 15a circuit
+Lasley Media we recently just ran this macro tech 9000i in the same gym. Had to set up our power source to only alough the amp to draw a max 18 amps on a 20 amp circuit. Worked great.
Nice Job!
You have very good DJ Jobs
13:07 you are feel this
nice job guys really cool! Michael nice job with the lights looked sharp. couple questions how are you liking Serato over virtual dj? i also have a vms4 that I am using now. how are u liking your new board? maybe a video on the differences between the vms4? just a idea for future video. last who came up with the x design? again thanks for the video always cool to see!
+Tyler Traeger its like a 50 50 for me between the 2 softwares. Mixing / blending is easier in serato but thats about it. The board is way bigger but has way more options the the vms. The x pattern was what the head of the dance wanted.
Serato is great on Macs buts not so much on Windows machines. If you want to delve deeper into Serato DJs features you are going to run into problems.
Vitural DJ is more stable on Windows machines which is why you see a lot of mobile guys use it. Its also cheaper to buy VDJ and a Windows machine. You get better features from windows devices but with Mac and Serato you get better stability across the board. I would use Virtual DJ is I had a windows machine, Mac for Serato. Serato also is better at customer service since Serato was built on a Mac.
awesome looked fun
all the mans were just grinding
David Chacon That’s how that is nowadays at school dances. I saw it at my first homecoming dance. Weird IK lol 😂
I want to build a set up for personal use at home with 2 JBL EON615. What other pieces do i need to simply play music from a streaming app like Google Play or Spotify ?
When doing schools, gyms etc asked the maintenance individual for the gym electrical room and see if you or they can get you a 50a circuit. Run the system on that. Obtain a spider box for additional lighting power. I run direct service power min 50a and above for 78k in watts.
+Nigel Wheeler that woukd have been a good idea. Except the electrical room was on the other side of the school..... the gym was a new add on they put into the school and they had no 220 outlets.... the biggest issue was that amp had never been used before and no one looked into the power draw. Just assumed it could run on a 20 amp 120 circuit.
great gig - I hate active because if not used correctly it can cause internal damage as i have seen in the past - yes its easy to set up but your running 2 cables to the speaker but where passive your running 1 but yet again it all depends on how it was built
+mikesmusic1000 very true. And passive you really need to know what your doing.
The same issues of damage can happen with passive and active. If you take care of their active or passive you won't run into issues. People don't know how to gain stage. I've seen that damage powered speakers over anything else.
Dope ass channel man!!!
+djlive408 thanks
That’s a lot of trussing, crazy setup! Very expensive top brands, JBL sound with Martin lighting isn’t cheap at all!
How much did you charge for this event?
I was only contracted for the DJ portion. Wasn't involved in the lighting part. The company I worked for at the time did it all
Awesome setup! I'm surprised they allowed you to play get low
That is CRAZY! How much were prom tickets? or did you just eat the cost somewhere? That could not have been cheap. BUT WOW
+djBOB 365 I have no clue how much tickets were never looked. Normally there over 50 a piece.
Im used setting up a huge truss setup
Good job
WOW!!!
Shame you couldn't have had some haze in there. Good show
Buy the JBL SRX 828p speakers and you won't have that problem. The set up was nice.
+calvin goodall have you seen my newest purchases?
So have you switched from VDJ to Serato? Otherwise, well done with the night. Looked amazing!
+Joe Chalmers I use them both anymore. Prefer serato for schools more fun mixing
I want that setup!🤣
sorry to hear your breaker tripping. use a 100 amp 220V power distro next time. the MA 9000 needs to be on a 20amp 120v circuit all by itself.
+Kevin McClure yeah we would have needed to rent a geny to do that. There was no 220 ports in the gym. And it was on its own 120 20amp. The 9000 can pull up to 27 amps when extremely over peaking. It broke 18 to 20 amps on the power conditioner reading when it just barely started to peaking out on big bass hits.
Hello,Could you check the high pass filter setting on your drive rack so it will not send the bass so low. Extremely low bass will use more current from the line, circuit breaker.
Low crossover is set at 35hz to 100hz
On your first report you said something fast about needing more gain, so you had a small mixer. The driverack
has a 2 position button on the back for a high gain and a lower gain. make sure it is set for high gain. Also
when you showed the subs that were behind the curtain, dual 18",they would have a higher output
if they were lying down instead of standing up. They would couple to the floor better. I realize as used they
were supporting the top boxes so no tripod was needed. So about the subwoofer circuit tripping, If there
is a way an electrician could tie in a circuit for this event. If there are places you go to on a regular basis,
an external fuse box for ( road show ) installed permanently.Do you rent LED moving lights to hold down current ? Bob Born
what remix was the car wash / rock the boat? automix?
just curious with all the extra equipment you have to set up and use compared with someone who brings two 15" speakers and a subwoofer do you charge more? and how much did you charge for the whole event
5 figures
lol sean paul and the way they dance
Hey just curious if you went back to the future on the because it was under the sea themed?? Did you play earth angel for a slow song?
No barely play 3 slow songs at school dances anymore
Check out LSC Clarity lighting
The moment you just build up a gig with 4 trusses of 150 meter :P and 16 circle trusses with a 6 meter diameter :P
Wen Rick web go to the center when the music playing it just there's a flanger effect
What would have been sick would be a giant Mirror ball on the centre ring😉
+Jack Roscoe would have been!!
Good Video ;)
Power distro needed. Motors 3 phase? A venue like that should have power out the wazoo! 100 amp should have easily did this. Feel free to contact me for further information. Love your work, and keep it up!
There is no tap for a distro. Theres 100amps between the two breaker panels but there are no 220 plugs. It's all broke out on 110 - 20 amp circuits.
@@DJRickWeb good morning! Well the next solution is bringing your own power. There's a company called Whisperwatt that makes diesel generators. I've used them regularly. The 120k generators for lighting and sound. You don't need that beast, however they make smaller gensets as well as larger. From a "legal" standpoint...make sure a CDL Driver's license is not required to move it (weight is definitely a factor) unless they deliver and set it up. Then there's the copper... also may I suggest a certified electrician. There's little things like how you coil your excess feeder in figure 8's, placement of fire extinguishers and required extinguisher size...so fourth and so on...if you do large events regularly, it could be a wise move to buy your own. For example, I've had tech riders specify 105 db at FOH (100 ft) with a whopping 48 db of headroom and that's several racks (4 way) then monitor world....12 bi-amped mixes on wedges with tri-amped drum and sidefills not to mention the lights... 120k of par 64's, ACL's, 4 follow spots then another 80k for intelligent lighting plus video walls. definitely a power hungry system. But at that point you're in multi 3 phase world and arena sized shows!
Sounds like there's a lot of reverb in there. How did you deal with it
+Prog zia I didn't control the audio at the event. I just hooked up and played.