Hobby Cheating 282 - Speed Painting Tyranids
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- In this Hobby Cheating video, I take you through my methods for speed painting Tyranids. There are often lots of these little bugs you need to put on the table, and these techniques will help you get loads of models done fast! Hope you enjoy.
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This is a perfect example of how experience doesn't just show as precise brushstrokes, but also as planing and decision making. Anyone can move their brush like you do on this video, but the steps and their order are very well thought and sometimes may seem conterintuitive. Amazing job as always, not only on the mini, but also on how you explain your process.
By the way, I'm trying to paint a white shirt on a big miniature (Rosie by Fer Miniatures) and I struggle to keep it visually interesting and with enough contrast but still reading as white. I watched you painting white before but in armour, not in clothes. Can you refer me to a video where you do it, if you have one?
Nevermind, I found one: czcams.com/video/prs76dW38Uc/video.html
Glad you found the vid and always happy to help. :)
Next week's episode: Speed Painting Sigvald.
I would never do such a thing to the geld-prine. ;)
Ive never had the balls to paint any of my Space Hulk. Watching this, the genestealers seem very achievable. I brought 10 x termigants for £9 on ebay this week and some cheap makeup brushes for xenos practice. I don't own any contrast paints but they seem the way to go here for sure! I love that Broodloard model!
That looks awesome and fast. Just what I need for my Leviathan Box of bugs! I really appreciate your speed painting videos -- highly approachable and the use of washes/inks/contrast paints makes them very noob friendly. I find a lot of techniques can require careful precision and my bad eyes and unsteady hands mess them up.
Glad to help :)
So great to see you doing some 'nids Vince - after assembling some 2003 'nid infantry (with the heads that come in 2 halves....seam line through the face is absolutely brutal and sucks a lot of fun out of the whole activity) I'd lost a lot of willpower to paint them up - now I'm all psyched to try this approach out and keen to paint again. Thanks for all your excellent videos. S.
Awesome, happy to help. :)
i was sweating bullets i thought will we have a vince vid with no payne's grey
Lol, he held off for a more dramatic appearance
It's a rarity for sure. I can't exist without it. :)
@@VinceVenturella speaking of Daler Rowney inks and paynes grey.
If you could only have a limited selection of inks to start off with, what would your suggestion be for say 6 inks to build from?
I assume white and paynes grey would certainly make their way into the mix.
Also how is the variance between those inks and say GW's old ink line, as I still have a few sitting around from those days (black, flesh, chestnut, blue, thst sort of thing)
Love the speed painting content! Thanks for the great tips. I always find they can apply to lots of different armies and situations.
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing final product and easy steps. Thanks again Vince!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for this speed painting video. Also congrats on your Sigvald being featured on the Warhammer Community page! It really is a spectacular work!
Thank you, on both counts. :)
Thanks for doing this in real time (excluding drying time)! It really helps emphasize the 'speed' in 'speed painting'. Too many videos cut to the end, which hides how long the job really took
Happy to help as always :)
RIght now my time to paint is short, so I'll rely on speedpainting techniques to get somewhere while building and painting my Nids, so this is great stuff.
I think is also healthy to start doing speedpaint while starting paintings as it allows you to get decent results while still learning the more advanced stuff. Great work with that Genestealer
I've been debating how to paint my genestealers for space hulk. My space crusade ones are just your regular blue and purple looking guys. They look great, but I wanted something different and this is definitely the way I'm going. I plan on doing the Terminators to display standard, but I need to be realistic about so many genestealers, and this definitely fits the bill! Absolutely awesome job 😊
I always get so much from your hobby cheating videos! Keep up the fantastic work!
Thank you, very happy to help.
FINALLY, the last numbered hobby cheating left to watch in this playlist.
i've skipped the Q&A livestreams and a couple other videos but i've watched every other video.
That is truly amazing. :) - Hope it was all helpful.
Awesome video, I wish I had this about a year ago before I "speed painted" my bugs, but it has definitely inspired me to go back to them for some easy and quick upgrades to the paint job, thanks!
Go for it! :)
That guy looks freaking awesome! Thanks for all the tipps Vince!
You bet!
Before I even watch this episode I just want to say I loved seeing your highlight on the Warhammer community page.
Even against other such impressive artists your Sigvald made a statement.
The mirror shield with showing its shape through the altered reflection still stands out against the others such as Sam's which displays amazing freehand work but fails to capture the nature of the shields curved surface.
Keep up the great work as always, your skill is an inspiration (if not intimidating also) especially the ease in which you appear to apply your techniques.
I totally agree. That pink and turquoise color scheme is striking!
Thank you very much, it was great to have a chance to paint it for sure.
Excellent video. Painting kids is one of my favourite things because like you say you can do them relatively quickly yet get some super cool results. Loved the video, can''t believe I wasn't subscribed already
Thanks so much 😊 Glad to have you along on the hobby journey. :)
Well time to buy some Tyranids.
The more you look at them the cooler they become.
Yeah, they really have character.
Thanks for posting this video, Sir! Love the 'Nids! Incorporating inks into painting technique definitely garners great results! I'm thinking I need to enhance my existing Tyranids...
Glad it was helpful!
This looks sick. I’m gonna try it with a light blue skin tone instead of the white typical of Leviathan, but I’m looooooving that purple carapace you did. It looks so good! Thanks for the tips
Go for it! Glad it was helpful. :)
Awesome pearls in here...specifically, I need to get Payne’s grey stat! Thank you Vince!
You bet! :)
I just came up with a similar technique a few days ago and yesterday assembled 60 hormagaunts... nice to see the key steps of my technique validated :D
Awesome, great minds think alike.
Love your videos, thx for keeping up the good work
Glad you like them! :)
Great video as always Vince !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great vid, thank you Vince👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome! I love how your speed painting method is both practical and still better-looking than the methods oft described by a well known manufacturer (who’s name shall go unmentioned so as to avoid summoning their wrath 😆).
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video 👌
Thank you! Cheers!
I just ordered the 'nid combat patrol box for my boy. I'm going to use a simplified version of this process in guiding him through the painting process. He's actually a pretty good painter for a 5 year old, I suppose :). Thanks Vince!
Fantastic!
As always highly enjoyable and very instructive; I got myself a Space Hulk box set for Christmas so guess what colour my genestealers are going to be?
Awesome, glad this was helpful. :)
that's incredibly useful for a horde army; if you could do a speed painting tutorial for orks that would mean that Christmas would come early for me.
There is actually a very fast goblin skin tutorial in the hobby cheating archives that might get you almost there. If you were serious :).
@@mr_mctweets6905 I was and here it is :
czcams.com/video/e1OdliZ6tB8/video.html&ab_channel=VinceVenturella
thanks
Now all I need is to see some fast, high quality Tau pathfinders and Fire warriors/Breachers on this channel and my life will be complete! :D
Squidmar has an orc skin tutorial as well thats pretty well done, his videos aren't quite as clear as Vince's but he shows where to use glazes to get some more warmth in your greens using reds and purples and flesh tons around the nipples elbows etc where skin would be thinner.
I would like to do the Orks for sure at some point. :)
Awesome Vince, thank you. When are new tyranif minis coming out? It's been a while!
It does seem like they should get around to them sometime.
Hey vince- love this so much! I was wondering for winged monsters what do you use on the wings!
I would likely use the same techniques. I would make the wing surfaces the same as the flesh here and the bones parts in between purple. I actually have a very old video on textured wings - czcams.com/video/s8WjoL08fdk/video.html
I kind of wish I'd have this 3-4 months back when I was churning through something like 350-400 models of Tyranids in Hive fleet Kraken colors.
Missed it by that much. :)
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thank you 👍
Hey really, REALLY appreciate all your videos! One quick question! I tried following your technique for the purple carapace but I’m not getting as nice of a result. Roughly what are your ratios for thinning the purple lake ink or these Daler Rowney inks in general?
It varies, but quite a bit of water and a few drops of flow improver. One thing, make sure you are wicking off the excess into a paper towel and then moving your brush in the same direction as you want the "texture" to move.
Vince painting Tyranids? (Shocked Pikachu Face) - Great video as always :)
Thank you, very much apprecaited.
Showing up to this late with the news of Tyrranids dropping in 10th. Interested to see if maybe you could show any other color schemes? It seems like the bone / grey / white underskin is by far the easiest to speed paint but would be interested in seeing how you could possibly speed paint some darker skin tones. I realize changing the chitin color is just swapping out the purple for another, however you'd likely want to feather in less pinks etc on the muscles for say... a green chitin or something like this? Either way great stuff and thank you!
I will certainly be doing at least one more as we head into 10th. :)
Hey Vince, great vid! Do you think this approach would scale up well for the bigger monsters, or are there any other considerations that should be kept in mind?
I think it would work just fine on the bigger nids. No issue.
love to see this done to the old school genestealers , my god i still have nightmates about painting them lol that said i have 60 genestrealers to paint will try your method ,
This should help.
"Tyranid anatomy is very confusing"
Yes, they have both an exo and an endoskeleton, which would normally make them unable to move around but the plot need them to!
THank you! :)
Love this - is there an ink/combination of inks you’d recommend for a blue carapace and matching pallette on the Nids?
Well, if you were talking blue carapace, something like the vallejo game ink blue would be perfect, or one of the mid-tone contrast blue paints.
Now to push son to paint his Tyrranids...
Get on him!
Vince, i'm eagerly awaiting to see your full Tyranids army! And if you decide to go Genestealer Cult instead, well...step into my office. Lets make a deal! lol
You might be waiting a while on that. :)
Amazing video! I'm trying to adapt this for daemonettes, but my Reikland shade is coming out too strong, almost brown, like a contrast. How do you make that layer so light straight out of the pot?
So 1, make sure you give it a good shake, 2, make sure your brush is already moist with water so you can move it's naturally thinned some. If you still don't like the exact tone, make a mix with carrionburg crimson.
Really nice! Have you ever thought of creating a tutorial for an higher quality Tyranid?
I have not yet, but it's a good idea.
@@VinceVenturella I'll love to see it
Hi Vince, great video as always. Can you recommend a vallejo or army painter color that's similar to that daler rowney payne's grey (tone, not consistency). I'd really like to try the universal shadow color trick from one of your previous videos. Many thanks in advance.
Honestly, I am not sure there really are one, you'd be better trying to mix some from blue and black ink from another brand, that's where you would find the closest match.
Good that I have my unpainted Broodlord sitting here. Do you also have a non-speed version in the works? I know that you often have a set of videos for speed and display variations, is this one too? Would be interesting to see your take, cause most videos focus on washes or contrast and then only the carapace with the streaky lines in more detail.
I will eventually a more detailed painting version as well.
Speed painting bugs lol. Thanks
😁
With the Zenithal on this did you go black then white or was it black to grey to white? Looks fantastic mate!
Black to white.
@@VinceVenturella thanks heaps man you may of kept the Hive Fleet Leviathan dream alive!
Vince, I will send you Rice Krispie Treats if you’ll paint a chibi next!
A chibi tutorial would be fun, I'll add it to the list (it may be a while).
Loving this technique. But I'm struggling a little bit to get a smooth result with the ink. Two questions. You say "thinned way down with flow improver".
Any thoughts on the rough ink/improver ratio (drops?)
I've got airbrush flow improver...and that's what I'm using. Any reason that would be an issue?
Probably 3 to 1 at least, butit will vary based on the intensity of what you are aiming for. You want to wick off the excess and try to apply a smooth even coat, moving the brush around and sopping up any excess. This is tough of course, there will always be some roughness to this sort of technique.
@@VinceVenturella 3 or 4 to 1 is exactly where I was landing. Appreciate the quick feedback!!
I don't know if you addressed this in other videos, but I'm wondering which paints do you use for priming and zenithal here, specifically?
Vallejo German grey surface primer and then generally Stynelrex white primer (though something like Monumet is also a great white to work with).
Next week “Vince paints a nid army in 24 hours”
That might be farther away than next week. ;)
I painted those (from the SH box) a couple of years ago. Took me a few hours each and they did not look half as good. Which begs the question:
WHERE WERE YOU, VINCE? 😄
Sorry, I will try to be a few years faster next time. :)
What's your advice for beginners concerning speed painting ? Is it really a good way to progress ? Thx Vince , as usual great stuff !
I think it's good to mix it in. You don't want to do only that, but developnig the speed muscle is a good part of building your overall skill set.
@@VinceVenturella great so its another skill by itself , thx Vince
Awesome
:)
Is there any way we could get a speed painting tutorial for chaos space marines? They have so much detail and they feel so tedious to paint, it would be great to see how you approach them.
I’ll see what I can do. They are one of those models that are just time consuming.
@@VinceVenturella please do! I’m currently making a small force of chaos marines/terminators for one page rules. I’d love to see your thought process/techniques on such models!
Hi Vince do you think going here with the wo called slapchop technique would enrich the paint job having more contrast? Or would it be too dark ? Preparing for Tyranids! More hints of how to improve this quick painting here?
Thanks
Sure, this is basically slapchop just isn't pushing the drybrush as hard. BUt you could absolutely do that.
@@VinceVenturella but in your video you didn't prime black that's the reason I was wondering if it would be too dark. I want them to be vibrant. Are you planing some leviathan nids painting tutorial?
Well... I mean.... i wasnt PLANNING on starting some space bugs but now i dont know
How can you not, it's so fast. ;)
Hey Vince, I really appreciate your work. I have an idea for a hobby cheating video topic, something I personally have a problem with: overthinking. For example, I have played around with a color scheme and lore Backstory for my beastmen for 3 months, and can't settle on one thing, because I ever lose interest in it, or I have a new idea. Have you had a similar issue? If so, any tips how to overcome it?
It's a great idea for a video. My best advice is that eventually, you have to just settle on a scheme and accept that it won't be perfect. The best advice I can offer is to accept that this project, like any other will not be the best project you'll ever do, but it also won't be your last. Your next project will be another chance. You will always learn more and grow more from deciding and doing rather than thinking and planning. :)
Good God. I've been painting hundreds of tyranids wrong this whole time
I got the same feeling but for orks... you know the drill waargh flesh, biel tan green wash, warboss green, skarsnik green and that's only for the flesh !
Glad it was helpful. :)
Is there such a thing as too much contrast ? For contrast of hue, value, texture and temperature and how do you spot it ?
Sure, it is possible to go too far. You can have things that are supposed to be cloth with the level of contrast that would make them read as reflective metal. THere is a line, it just happens to be the case that most of the time people don't go near far enough.
How do you overcome painting a light colour like the white grey over the black downward facing parts of the model with a zenithal base coat. I always just end up with the bottom facings of the model being pure black still as the light colour doesn't cover well and just doesn't look realistic as a shadow as it should be a darker shade of your main base colour in this case being the white grey rather than pure black
I happen to have a video on just that thing - czcams.com/video/Doc2GdL2Lv4/video.html
@@VinceVenturella thanks vince
Oh man. 14minutes in painting heaven and its already over. 7 days to my next fix. How about speed painting some Nurgle Bloaters?
I regret to say that Nurgle content will likely never be on the channel. Just can't do it. :)
@@VinceVenturella Ok. :-)
Can you do a tutorial about Maggot or desert scorpion? they kind of white yellow, but more in a transparent and shine way, so difficult... :)
Not sure I am familiar with those, but I will see what I can do.
@@VinceVenturella maybee more people like to know how to paint ugly creepy things who look real, if you know the death guard 40k army for example... ;)
tl;dw: drybrush => contrast paints.
Not a terrible summary.
I was avoiding those Citadel contrast paints, because I did't want to fall into the lazinaess of painting everything with them, but that red you used is such a beautiful tone I'll have to buy it now.
Yeah, to me, they are just one more useful tool. Over-relying on anything is always a deteriment, but to me never turn down a useful tool. :)
I know it's been a while, but my DW white ink just gets wiped out by whatever I put over it, even after a full day drying. Any ideas, other than varnish, ot just using Bold Titanium White?
Yeah, it's just not setting, because of your humidity, thinner or something else. So it's either switch to paint or primer, or give a good varnish after priming.
@@VinceVenturella using Vallejo airbrush flow improver in the purple ink, and undiluted white ink. Results with Pro Acryl white have been better. Thanks for the reply.
Great
Thanks!
Comment for the comment gods! Great tutorial
Thanks!
what brand of brushes do you use, brother?
That's a big question, the answer is lots of them, my nice detail bruses are Raphael 8404, but most of my work and what you saw here was with a generic synthetic brush, this video has the full story - czcams.com/video/YTm_LgpOA0Y/video.html
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:)
896 likes and 0 dislikes, now that's impressive!
A rarity for sure on my videos, but glad this was helpful. :)
About 9:55 there is a link mentioned about a filling technique ... is it only me or is that link missing?
I'll check on why the link isn't happening, but here you go - czcams.com/video/BH8xp0BJwQo/video.html
@@VinceVenturella Thanks
How long do this take, not including dry time? Looked like 10 minutes
Yeah, maybe 20 minutes total all in.
Mine came out nothing like that lol. Still looks okish
Okayish is still good! Anything painted is always better than unpainted.
@VinceVenturella That's true, it's a start lol
how was this undercoated / primed?
Standard zenithal highlighting - You can see a video on it here - czcams.com/video/EFFRfPLUHHk/video.html
HEY U 'UMMIE, Y NOT A SPEED PAINTING DA BEST ARMY OUT DERE!
BAD MOON ORK, 'N' COMMIT YERSELF TO DA WAAAAAGH!
Otherwise nice tutorial. This one is more like a summary of your previous hobby cheating guides.
Totally fair and happy to help. :)
I love you.
I hate you.
Couldn't you have done that a year ago?
:-D
Now my Hive Fleet Leviathan will get finished soon AND look much better.
Thank you a lot for this Video :-)
Missed it by that much. ;)
Haha just got this guy off eBay
Yeah, he's a great figure. :)
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Always appreciated.
I'd correct you on your pronunciation of chitin but I just know that would make you want to pronounce it wrong more, Mr. Kneecrons :D :D :D
You are corret, best not to provoke me.
: )
:)
Speed painting:
Step 1: use black, white or grey primer
There is no step 2
That would be very speed