HOW TO Custom Profile Inkjet Paper with X-Rite i1Studio!
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- HOW TO Custom Profile Inkjet Paper with X-Rite i1Studio!
This video will walk you through all of the steps necessary to custom profile your inkjet paper using X-Rite i1Studio Color Spectrophotometer. How to print out the profile in the most efficient way on paper larger than 8.5 x 11 inches, best techniques to deploy when profiling paper. And the lighting setup that you should view your prints out on.
UPDATE: the guide shown in this video will work for Calibrite Devices and ColorChecker Studio (ccStudio) as well. There may be some GUI and branding changes, however, the software fundamental is still the same.
If you are unfamiliar X-Rite Transitioned this consumer product portfolio to a newly formed company called Calibrite, which is short for Calibration Done Right, on July 1st, 2021.
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Thank you for the very helpful video and for spending so much time on it. It helped me a lot.
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an excellent resource, thanks Art.
Glad it was helpful!
Hello Art, after years of wasting paper, ink and time, doing my head in when the colour print changes to what the final test print was, I now find out I need this calibration tool.
I have an, Epson XP-960 photo printer, it uses 6 colour Claria inks.
Thank you for using an Epson print to demonstrate this tool and software. Kind regards, Gary
Awesome! Glad you are on the right track with printing.
Really useful , I watched a lot videos in your channel. Thumb up !
Thank you
Excellent Training Video. Thanks!
You're welcome!
Excellent presentation. Thank you,
Thanks!
Nice explanations... very neat. high fives to you :)
Thank you! 🙂
Great information, thank you Art.
Thank you!
Thanks for all of your great work. Could you give us some sort of a feel for the difference that we might see between an icc paper profile produced by the i1 Studio vs a custom profile.
Relatedly you have often mentioned that the Calibrate colorimeters are super for monitor calibration to the i1 Studio. What sort of a difference might we see in the end result from the different devices?
Again, thanks for all that you do.
"Could you give us some sort of a feel for the difference that we might see between an icc paper profile produced by the i1 Studio vs a custom profile."
profiles produced with i1Studio are considered to be custom profiles. Note that i1Studio or ccStudio is an entry level spectrophotometer so there only so much that it can do. The next device up in the line cost 5-6 times as much and that is the i1Pro 3, which is an amazing spectrophotometer that comes really close to the Barbieri which is a super high end spectrophotometer. This said, what you will generally see with custom profile in general is better color, contrast, tonal range. Although the changes that you will see with i1Studio will be limited at best vs canned (manufacture) provided profiles.
"Relatedly you have often mentioned that the Calibrate colorimeters are super for monitor calibration to the i1 Studio. What sort of a difference might we see in the end result from the different devices?"
Colorimeter are better in many sense when it comes to entry level spectrophotometer such as the i1Studio. The thing to note about Colorimeter is that it is trained in a way by the measuring curved of higher end color spectrophotometer. The thing is that spectro takes much longer to calibrate. And when it comes to colorimeter vs i1studio, you are not going to see much variation. However, colorimeter vs i1Pro 3, you'll get better ∆e. But then you have to ask what are you chasing? Perfect Colors? It does not exist, hence the need for ∆e to measure variations. And if colorimeter can get ∆e below 2 to start with, which is already beyond what human vision can see in 99% of circumstances. Then the question is does it matter really, knowing there are variations everywhere in life.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks Art. Appreciate the reply
Great video, thank you. I did everything as you said (at least is what I think) and my print was awful, as if it were solarized, any idea of what could be wrong?
There are so many variables here. It would be difficult to diagnose without knowing more details.
Being a bit economical, I am using a single sheet of A4 to make a profile with neutralisation for black and white (1 + 2 sheets) by shrinking the patches down to only 1/4 of the paper size (A4) (using the printer driver to print 4 sheets on on 1 page). I made a custom ruler to guide the colormunki (3 mm reading hole) over these patches) and it works very well: no difference compared to using 3 sheets of A4 to generate the same quality of profile. In the end I have one free area available on which I print a test image to see if the profile is properly generated.
Great idea!
Im just trying to decide - this Xrite1studio vs the Xrite i1 pro 3 from your other video. This looks like it does the same job easier and with fewer parts
Quite drastically different also different price point as well. i1Studio (ccStudio) now because of X-Rite transition to Calibrite, is a consumer product. Does it do well, yes but it lacks a lot of control the i1Pro 3 from X-Rite has. The measurement sensor and LED inside the i1Pro 3 is much better than the studio as well.
Great video -- I recently changed printers to a canon imageprograf 1000 from an Epson printer. My problem is that I have a lot of Epson fine art paper. I also have an X-Rite color checker studio. Epson does not offer a nice chart like Carson provides for setting Epson paper on a canon machine. Plus, canon paper selection is quite limited. For example, I love Epson Legacy fiber 19 mil satin matt paper. How can I inform the printer about this type of paper
Match the closest recommended Epson paper setting to Canon, Matte to matte for instance and then use ColorChecker Studio software from Calibrite to generate a custom icc profile for the Epson Paper when printing through Canon printer.
Art - another great video! My question is, if I’m using Canon paper with a Canon Pro 100 printer, how do I find which black setting to use for the media type. Is it matte black or photo black? I can’t seem to find the information for Canon. Many thanks again. Ken
Yes that would be matte or photo black in combination with the paper type that would control the dot gained.
Is there a way for me to determine whether I should use the matte black setting or the photo black setting? Thanks again, Ken
That is dependent on the paper. You can look up the paper spec and it will tell you. For Canon OEM paper, I think they group the paper type in the driver that make it somewhat obvious which ink set to use. And many time when you choose the paper, the driver will force you to use the correct black ink anyways.
Hi, thanks for the video, do you know if X-Rite i1 Studio works with large format printers such as an HP Latex 360? Thanks!
Yes it works with many printers. But if you have those you are better off looking at the i1Pro 3 or i1Pro 3 Plus but that device also cost 4 times as much if not more
I'm really impressed with your videos and have learned so much. However, I do have a question about profiling, for instance, if you download a profile from Hahnemuhl for a specific paper, then it's available after placing it in the ColorSync/profiles folder, how does that work with creating a custom profile for a specific paper if you can download it? Is there a reason to use one instead of the other? Thanks! ( I have the I1Studio device and am anxious to try it out on paper so I can start printing with my P800)
that is a generic profile from the paper manufacture and has nothing to do with the custom profile. they are separate files and used separately. One has nothing to do with the other, you don't need the generic to create a custom. You can use either. some prefer custom because it is tailor to the output of your printer and not a generic printer output. Most of the time it is more accurate and produced better colors and black and white. Since you have to device I would just test it and do a comparison.
@@ArtIsRight Ok thank you
I made it through the calibration process and it worked great! I'm using the updated CCStudio, the new company that took over xrite's software. I'm so thankful for your thorough instructions. I watched them several times with good notes as I didn't want to miss anything. And made a color print out of some of my images to see if it worked. It was beautiful! I used the hahnemuhle bamboo paper. Thank you so much!!!
Nice!
Hi. thank you. I have a problem about printed color. I made print profile and set up. but photo printed is strange. First, shadow is little dark. I see yellow tone overall. I have i1 studio. How can fix color tone?
What paper are you using? Printer, computer OS, etc? Are you printing without color management?
Sorry for my late reaction. I'm trying to find the difference to printer calibration in Color print or in B/w print. If I want to print black and whites do I choose for the B/W setting?
most black and white are still based on color, so I would still use the color profile for the most part
Mind blown!! Thank you for this video! I've been struggling printing from my new 14" MacBook Pro, I've been printing from my beloved 2010 MacBook Pro for years with the perfect ICC profile. I transferred the same ICC profile over to my new Mac and it prints completely different. I've tried all manufacturer's ICC profiles with similar paper types, and some are close but they are all off. I had no idea this was possible. I think my next step is to rent an X-Rite i1Studio Spectrophotometer and make my own ICC Profile 🤞🤞🤞I really hope this helps. Or do you know if it's possible to create an ICC profile for my new computer based on my old MacBook ICC profile? Or do you recommend any companies that can create ICC Profiles for you?
I've also watched your other video about calibrating the new MacBook display. My new display is very yellow even with the night shift off, my old MacBook display reads so much more blue. My brain and eyes are so confused about what to believe. Really hope this helps!!
Watch this czcams.com/video/U6NOaDi2DQ0/video.html it could be that True Tone is not turned off. Also you should be using the reference mode which will help a lot, I have a video on that too, you might have seen it already. About icc profile it should be a 1:1 translation, meaning they should work the same way. A couple of things that I would make sure before you go out to buy or rent the device is that you are installing the correct drivers czcams.com/video/cRqNmqFtUXc/video.html Mac like to use AirPrint which is a generic driver and it lack many of the granular control of the printer. You need to get the manufacture driver to get this to work properly. From here print with color management on the printer off. Sample can be seen here czcams.com/video/4fEzUMCwZyo/video.html Give this a go, if you continue to have issue dm me in fb page or insta. Or if you have any follow up questions start a new comment thread this way I can see it.
@@ArtIsRight Wow! You are so fast! I'm printing from a Canon imagePROGRAF iPF6400. I can confirm True Tone is off, I am using the latest print driver 5.50 from Canon, and the latest printer firmware 1.50. I'm taking the weekend off, but I will check all of this out next week and message you via dm if I have questions. Thank you so much for responding! So appreciated!
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Hi Art, How much of difference is there with profiles from Canson, Red River, Epson and profiles made with the i1 studio? I'm not doing super critical work that needs icc people to give my work an OK. ha. I calibrated my MBP and iMac with ccprofiler and I am pleased with the results. The icc profiles from the paper companies are free, that for me signs the deal for downloaded icc profiles. thanks.
We are talking about optimization, better contrast, neutral colors and etc. But if you are happy with canned profile, I would just stick with that. Since at the fundamental, ccStudio (this device) is more of an entry device anyways, it will be better but it won't be as good as a profile produced with higher end spectrophotometers that can cost 5-6 times as much.
Oh dear! I have another question. When you are editing in Lightroom or Photoshop, should you assign the profile you will be using to print (the one we just created) before you start editing? I noticed after I did all my editing and if I assign the new profile instead of using the default, there is a color shift and now I'm ready to print and don't know what I should do. Do I have to go back and fix all the colors or will they be ok. I guess I should have asked this before hand. I'm actually using another printing program called Print Tool but that shouldn't matter. It's a very convenient layout.
No and never really. You only use the profile created to print through Photoshop, Lightroom or the printing program. Watch this czcams.com/video/4fEzUMCwZyo/video.html and this czcams.com/video/MpB75oJzcNM/video.html
@@ArtIsRight thank you again!
Hi thank you for this video i am using the i1Studio latest download 2021 for the ColorMunki Photo. There is no setting to turn color management off for printing the sheets for profiling the paper. Can you please help?
What printer are you using, Pro printer you can, most consumers model you cannot
@@ArtIsRight Canon Pro300
I use the professional print and layout software. What i did is i extracted the printing chart and saved as a tiff and then turned off color management within the print layout of the canon programme? would that suffice
I was going to say with that model, that is exactly what you have to do. Canon for reason block that from the print dialog.
Hello Sir, so we use palette master for display calibration (SW2700PT) and use i1 Studio for printer calibration (Epson L1800) ?
Palette Master "Element" yes, there is another software called Palette Master as well but it will not work with th eSW. And yes i1Studio for printer calibration.
@@ArtIsRight yes sir i have installed palette master element. And thank you so much for clearing all my doubts. If have any issue now i know whom to ask for it. Lol👍
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Hi Art, thank you for the information. Where can I purchase that lamp?
Hi Julio I would give this a look instead czcams.com/video/XojivTm4UBI/video.html chapter and multi use.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you Art! Your the best
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Im dying here. I got a Calibrate studio this week and it's doing an awful job. All of my manufacturer profiles are significantly more accurate. Im working with support but it's going very slowly and im blowing through paper right and left. Optimizing profiles has helped a bit but not completely. You had told me in the past to use Pallette master element for my BenQ sw321c but now im am trying to match my monitor to my printers with the studio I should be using ccstudio for the monitor as well correct?
no, with BenQ, you should stick with Palette Master Ultimate
@@ArtIsRight and I can still hope to get a match with the ccstudio on my printer?
Doesnt seem to work with Sonoma so I guess I'll have to wait for an update. @@ArtIsRight
What criteria is best to match? I am assuming surface texture is first; where do paper thickness and paper makeup enter the equation. Epson has a vast selection of papers, while canon offers minimal variation. Thank you for your time. Can I contribute financially to your site? Gary
I would mostly go by texture, thickness does not matter as much (considering most of these paper substrate are thicker to start with when it comes to fine art paper - if you are printing on Japanese Rice Paper that is another story). As far as paper make up, that mostly has to do with the coating, what kind of coating does it have that may change your selection slithy but not much, aka, matte based paper would use matted ink, no other way about it.
Also to answer your last question about financial contribution, I have super thanks available on my channel, so if you like, you can contribute that way. Thank you!
Hi, I left you a message on your other video about Benq sw320 ....I wonder if Zhou would allow me to drop it here?
Yea please answer the questions that I asked. I can't adequately help you without that info.
ArtIsRight my issues are my sw320 won’t allow my colourmunki iPhoto or my recently acquired i1 display pro to be recognised by pallet master or profiler but recognised by display cal though with limited control to monitor adjustments....and last the display port won’t work at all, yet I can use all the rest of the ports..
Whatever you can help me with i will appreciate.
I still need these data points to help.
1. What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc )
2. What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number)
3. What calibrator are using?
4. What version of PME are you using?
5. What BenQ model do you have?
6. What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc.
7. If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display?
8. If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise?
9. For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver?
10. Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point?
My recommendation is to take DisplayCal out of the diagnostic mix, they use generic 3rd party drivers most of the time which is why it works. The issue that you have is with the main first party drives, devices, and software.
Can I profile my prints for the lighting conditions in which they will be viewed, around 4000k. ?
Not with this device. With the i1pro 3 or i1pro3 Plus yes, you can even measure the spectral read out of the light with it.
Hello question now i have the xrite but support write me don't back. only one problem i have. the software i1 Studio after finish save me an icm. file but i need a icc. my printers works whit icc :-( how can i do that to save icc. i hope you can help.
When you are saving out the icc profile and naming it, can't you just change the extension to icc. Also I think that you can print with an ICM Profile as well.
I am profiling a paper for B/W printing, after creating the first page, how should the printing be done?
In fact, when you start printing the sheet, should it be printed in colour or in B/W?
Even in B&W the profile is always in color, your ink jet is color and B&W are created from combining all of those color to get gray scale.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for your prompt reply!
But having an EPSON SC-P600 printer and an EPSON ET-8550 printer that provides B/W printing with their advanced system, is it preferable to create a B/W profile or use the printer driver management?
I hope I have been clear.
Greetings from Italy
You are talking about 2 separate system, one is profile the other one is Epson educated guess on how to manage the ink and is highly variable. So you can create an icc profile for B&W but it is not worth the time. And if you use an icc profile you should disable all Epson Color Control. And yes there's an advanced black and white mode but that translate to Epson doing a guess on the black and white output based on the image and that will change with every image that you feed it. There's no consistency. So don't use Epson system and like I said you can try a B&W icc. But if you look closely at the color & BW icc profile creating in i1Studio they look identical not sure if you'll gain much. But you can give it a try and let me know. There's probably nuances that you'll see but overall it might not be worth the time and resources.
it is possible to export the icc. profile in an other rip. my rip software for the printer has a separate folder for icc profiles. it does not automatically recognize them.
If my memory serves me correctly, RIP by pass icc profile. I have to look into that again. But if your RIP has an icc profile folder you should be able to put it in there and get it to work. What RIP are you using & printer?
I am printing whit dtgpro v10 only we tshirt prints have this. But i habe see the icc is saved in the Windows Main Felder icc Profile i can take out and Insert. But i have it buy for 10 min. :-) i mean it must go :-)
Got it
Any chance of helping me privately?
Please dm me on fb page, insta or email with what you have in mind. And I'll share with you my rates there as well.
Hello Art, I ask you please, a mail contact to write some questions about the topic. I need to solve issues to calibrate my monitor. Thank you in advance and congratulations for all your tutorials. Gabriele
You can ask the question here or you can find my email in the about tab on my CZcams channel main page.
Better show printed photo. thank you
I did briefly show it toward the end, but evaluation from camera capture does very little to demonstrate the point. What the camera can capture is way less than human perception.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you