Keys to an Effortless Bowling Swing
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 7. 07. 2024
- Brad and Kyle break down easy tips for the average bowling to improve their bowling swing.
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Great advice guys. I literally have to take a deep breath after stepping onto the approach and telling myself ârelaxâ and most of the time it helps.
I do the same!
Same
My trick I started using is really focusing more on my balance arm. It allows me to just forget about trying to throw the ball and letting me focus on my position and form at the line.
I'm a coach working with kids, I usually tell them to "make a full length approach with a full swing, but throw the ball as slow as you can". This usually makes them relax a lot and loosen up the swing big time.
This was definitely the best advice my dad gave me. I was focusing too hard on throwing the ball.
I just recently started bowling and I keep bowling to the right. I donât know how to stop doing that
@@markbensley138 is your ball consistently going right of your target?
If your actually coaching and if one day u aren't busy, reckon I can get some tips, I'm avg185 rn but it just don't feel right my release is on the side of the ball and I needa coach to check my swing. If u can I'll drop my DC tag
@@markbensley138that would be timing I do it to you release the ball to early making it go out to right of mark
One thing I have noticed over the years is to stop thinking about each piece of the delivery.
If I think to much about push away I usually mess up my feet. The same is true of swing.
Keep up the informative Videos.
Iâve watched a lot of bowling tutorial videos over the years. A lot! The best advise was from Randy Peterson about creating a pendulum arm swing using gravity. Gravity being the key word here because itâs a constant, it never changes. Iâve never heard anyone else talk about it. I wish I did sooner. đ
I canât wait until you guys bowl a tournament. I enjoyed the ins and outs of bowling tournaments.
Iâm so glad I watched this last night. I had push away and timing issues today at league. Focused on just dropping the ball into the swing and was able to battle my way to a 716 series after a 185 in game 1.
I literally needed needed these tips. Iâve been in a slump and I definitely feel like I can use these to my advantage and get back to where I need to be.
Youâre describing my swing. Iâm thankful to you guys for your videos and information. They have helped my game a lot
Practiced this yesterday and implimented the relaxing of my hand/shoulder during set up it in league today. I found myself putting more ball weight into my off hand which helped relax my ball hand fingers and thumb. Shot a solid 590, 13 pins above avg, and felt much smoother throughout my approach. THANKS FOR THE TIP
Really appreciate this video. I feel like I am always pulling my backswing which breaks my wrist. Going to try Bradâs tip to let it hang. I had a coaching session with Mike Jasnau and he used Brad a lot in video comparisons for my game.
Got interested in bowling recently, you videos have been very helpful and entertaining! Keep up the good work
This was one of the more interesting tutorials on your channel. I think a lot of my issues stemmed from trying to apply force on the delivery. It felt like a natural thing to do, but now when I watch other bowlers who are really skilled, their timing and flow is starting to make a lot more sense.
Great video guys!! I have been struggling with my approach. Steps too slow, too fast, uncomfortable release....you name it !!! LOL.. This makes so much sense. Can't wait to give it a try !!! Thanks !!!
Good stuff and thanks for the content! Excellent job as always
Great job Brad. you nailed it with the lag, enabling the slide for the great release.
Great info! I tend to fall into aiming at my target, not letting the ball roll. Looking back, I've been way too tense during my set up. Can't wait to practice this
Letâs go!! Needed this help before tournament coming up
Great video. I just realized the other day that I wasn't bringing the ball further back on my swing and I started seeing more pin action when with the higher back swing. Then you guys came out with this video. It started to make sense to me. Thanks keep up great job.
Older, arthritic guy here, facing loss of accuracy, revs and ball speed. Using lighter, weaker stuff and still struggling, especially after the heads are drying out. Will practice, concentrating on the tips you discussed here. Thanks for the encouragement and advice. Best of luck and much success with your channel and your bowling!
Watched this video many times over last 2 weeks and today I actually executed it over 2.5 games in league. Iâd call it the set and go option. Instead of trying to find a time to start my push away I just get set for 1/2 a second dropped in and leg it swing. It enabled my feet to be in time and allows me to stay down at the line. Just have to let the ball hang up and wait on it. :) Thanks for that Stuff !
Hey guys, great video. I love your videos. When Mika koivunieme was here in the states I got some lessons from him, we became friends. He taught me to start humming softly at the start. Then when you hear yourself humming getting strained then you know that's where your swing gets muscled.
thanks.. exactly like u said.. after 5 months doing bowling, i noticed that the ball will always uncontrollable if i tried to push more power into the swing..
Great video, this is something I need to work on, appreciate the tips!
Great video fellas..eventhough there's some of us who have been bowling since we were a fetus..This tip is so underrated! I used the older video (the push away) as a great reminder. Appreciate you guys taking the time to help us be reminded of the basics, we tend to forget.đđ€đđ
Love this video just what I needed to hear as I am working to free my swing from the bandage that is my current swing... thank you guys
Another tip that worked for me: smile!! It releases endorphins which helps you relax. I have a big shit eating grin on my face when I am standing on the approach, and over short game shots in golf.
Been doing this little trick for years now. I have a 4 step approach. So I sing the Rolling Stones song "Satisfaction" on my approach. Specifically, I'm singing, "I can't get no." And last week I had my best series ever with a 199 average. Low was 197 and a high of 202.
Great tip. Thanks guys.
Wow this felt really helpful, thank you!!
My coach and I just worked on this last week thanks for the great explanation it does work I have more ball motion going to be 55 in August thought my days of creating revs was over but think again. Thanks a lot
Great video guys ... so important. Thank you so much
great info!! i haven't gone bowling since i was a kid, but i work out with kettle bells. the tip about lag makes so much sense. thank you for the explanation of technique-- can't wait to try it out at the alley :)
I just met you guys out here in NC and told you I got my first 300/800 after watching one of your videos. This was the one! I've only been bowling 3 years but have put in countless hours and 15-30 games a week. I'm an engineer so can over complicate things, to say the least. Something clicked when I saw this video. I definitely think your video is broken because I haven't shot any more 300's and/or 800's!đ Although I am EXPONENTIALLY more consistent. Even my bad days have been 625+ since watching this. Crazy thing is when I'm throwing the ball relaxed, my speed and revs go up significantly. Once again, I'm a long time fan and I think you guys are some of the best ambassadors for the sport! Keep at it! May see you guys in KC in September if you're doing the KC open.
I bowled a lot of years before I found out not to pull down and generate power during the downswing. So I finally just let gravity do the work and make the ball drop, and when my arm was about at the 6 o'clock position, that's when I used my muscle power to accelerate my swing forward through the release. It helped a lot. Everything is a work in progress. These videos have helped me a ton. Am I a good bowler now? I'm not even in the same time zone with any of these pro bowlers. But every bit of info helps make me a tiny bit better, and that's really appreciated.
Great advise, something I really need to work on this summer..
Same
Excellent tips, guys! I definitely struggle with grabbing, often resulting in poor timing at the release point and more often than not missing inside my target. Will keep this in mind when I am back on the lanes.
I have the same issue, along with turning the ball early or chicken winging it
I don't know if this will help me or not (62 yr old bowler), but this explanation is the best and most understandable to me. I will certainly try to incorporate these concepts, into my bowling. Thanks for this in-depth yet easy to understand explanation.
Very good video, brad is great at explaining things
Agreed, to me Brad is a good play by play guy and Kyle is good at the color commentary.
Guys, when coaching Usually the bowler will have played another sport, using the similarities of attaining a long flat spot helps them to understand what is needed in bowling. Thank you for bringing this to light!
I always felt like I was doing something wrong when I feel that lag. Thank you for explaining it.
I think this ties in a lot with "overthinking" the shot. Trying to do too much, forcing all these stuff, it can happen because of all the thinking and focusing. Relaxing, letting your arm move naturally, not thinking about it so much, really helps get into the zone you're referring to in this video.
Good information as always.
Awesome description
I came back to bowling after 21 years and I've used you guys to help get me back in the swing of things. After 40 games I'm average 175. Is 15 less than what I used to average but almost back so thank you guys.
Isnt the internet the greatest tool we didn't have as kids?
@@joshg218 oh big time. I love it. I'm able to watch so many tips on bowling alone.
Really good to hear/see you teach finesse. I am a Canadian five-pin player who used to drill 10-pin balls in a mixed house. I played both five and ten and my experience is that I could never be effective in the same day playing 10-pin first and then 5-pin. My 10-pin ball was 15.99999 lbs and the maximum weight 5-pin ball is 3lbs 10 oz. The reason is that the body needed more sensitivity to feel the lighter 5-pin ball. My point? If you can teach your body to be natural and relaxed with ~3.5 lbs, being natural and relaxed with a 10-pin ball was much easier. I also also used to coach that you should be able to feel a tug at your shoulder if your arm was really swinging naturally. But .... you guys are the actual pros ....
Look, Iâm Mr Grab, itâs like a thing for me⊠but once I figured how to not pull down on my shots, I really stopped grabbing it most of the time. Pretty much when I grab it I either hold onto the ball too long when I push off or pull down on my swing. Now, at least I have a symptom of what is happening I can self appraise and at l can attempt to get myself on track. Just fixing this aspect on my game alone was a huge breakthrough, went from 201 to 218 almost overnight. Meaningful practice is a wonderful thing!
3rd, love your videos, they help me so much
This is the best Brad and Kyle video so far.! Learning to relax your hand effortlessly is a large milestones/accomplishment for a Bowler. As a golfer there is a similar sentiment, which suggests that you hold the club as loosely as you can, and it works! I believe that what theyâre getting at here is that you have to learn to let the ball go on the backswing so that you can allow it to release on the forward swing effortlessly, and consistently, with speed!
Emulate Kris Prather. Nobody gets the ball off their hand better than he does!
Yesssss, Iâve been working on leaving my hand open. Back in the day we didnât have all these resources to look up bowling info so I developed lots of terrible habits but slowly breaking them one by one
@@pineapplehouseonline2750 ainât that the truth
Changed my game. Ty
Great video guys it makes sense đ
Hey Brad&Kyle, firstly you guys are amazing, seeing you guys struggle but keep going gives a high school bowler like me motivation to not give up. Secondly, I would really appreciate it if you guys could add some advice for the taller people.(6â6â btw)
Throw nothing but purple hammers and meme-slap every time you get a lucky messenger lol
Took me a long time to learn. For me, it was always the start of the swing that got me hung up. I actually drop my ball a little in my swing right before I step to help me to not freeze my arm.
Man I always miss you guys at the alley. I come after you leaveđ„Čhope to meet you guys
Wow! At the beginning of this video you guys looked like a Masters finalist and a PBA Singles Champion standing there!
I was a scratch bowler back in the early 90s, but I quit and started playing golf. The key to a good golf swing is to make a proper backswing and then just letting the swing happen without forcing it, also you need to drop your lead shoulder a bit to create as long a flat spot at the bottom as possible. When I recently started bowling again, I just naturally started rolling the ball the same way. I'm not quite back to my old average, but I feel that when I'm back there, I'll be a lot more consistent.
Iâm so jealous that he keeps using the zen soul because I want that ball so much and canât wait till it comes out đ
I stumbled into figuring this out a few weeks ago. The way I thought about it is as soon as I feal the go weightless in the back swing I use the pushoff to move my body forward. As the body goes forward it pushes the ball into my hand. Then I just stay tucked under the ball and guid it to the release point. I gained 2.5 mph and more revs and almost no strength. Was doing great then my slide shoe stopped sliding lmao. Can't wait for league.
I think you may have just fixed my issue with pulling it left. I feel like I have to use more hand to get extra power and rev. I'll be at the unlimited bowling tomorrow to work on your tips. Thank you both.
My biggest problem was being grabby at the bottom. To both increase revs and improve accuracy, I started working on getting my wrist cupped during the downswing, and relaxing my hand and wrist as much as possible at the release. It sounds like a similar thought at the bottom might be helpful for you. Good luck and bowl well!
I got rid of my push away all together this year. Best thing I have done. I take the approach keep my elbow in and palm turned up hand under the ball. Then as I start my approach I just drop the ball. I let it swing back not raising it much higher than the natural swing plane. Then as I come through the ball I will verry how much I rotate my had just before release depending on condition but I try to stay more behind and under the ball. Then my big thing that helped my accuracy too is trying to keep the ball as close to my slide ankle as possible. Both of these things changed my game for the better. I had a recent injury and not able to finish summer league but I was doing a 4 game trio on a sport shot this summer and I had my second ever 300 and only six weeks after my first one,
I used to be real low on my stance, but now I'm upright and then get low on my slide. Before I was only seeing part of the lane now I feel like I see further down lane and I can hit my target better. My best strikes are the ones that feel effortless
I gotta get back into bowling now that Iâve had my 12 surgeries
FYI, your momentum and "lag" you are talking about, is EXACTLY the same in the golf swing actually. I have been playing golf at a high level for almost 30 years. I am a scratch player who holds records at a couple of courses. You will find that in most sports that require a swinging type motion, that effortless "lag" is extremely important, not just for accuracy but for power as well. It's a matter of building and storing potential energy (creating kinetic energy) and then releasing that energy at the right time. In the golf swing, that energy is actually released automatically at the bottom of your swing arch (if you let it happen naturally and automatically). I believe the bowling swing is very much like this as well. Just like your bowling swing, in a golf swing the thing everyone wants to do is "pull from the top", and it is not an easy thing to overcome. Even pro golfers are still often plagued with this natural tendency to want to "get things going" and pull from the top. I can see where the bowling swing is EXACTLY this same situation and I fully understand why it is important NOT to allow that to happen. I have gotten pretty good at not pulling from the top in my golf swing (only took me 10 million practice balls to do it) but I am working on it now with my bowling swing, and I still have a tendency to want to pull from the top, even though I have trained myself well not to do it with my golf swing. It is just a natural thing your brain wants to do. You have to train it not to do it. Great videos guys!!! .. just love your stuff!
Dead on...
WOW ! Very insightful.
Thanks for the insight
I think about my golf swing a lot of times when I think about how to have a smooth bowling swing and seem like people that went golfing during the day before league used to kill it at bowling
Kinda similar to using the earthâs gravity for your swing. Also I felt that swing on league night when I threw around 150 in the first two games. At some point during that 3rd game, I felt that natural swing coming towards me , and I had 8 strikes in a row before leaving a stone 9 to end the game, finishing up with 269. That game alone got to my average at 180. I was way below my average the first two games, but got to my 180 average after the 269 game.
I got to make sure that I need to remember that got to get used to the rhythm practice my bowling swings and taking four steps.
Cool video talk to tech bowling Brad and Kyle
When you talk about loose at the start I think of that wiggle thing that Barnes does with his arm when he lines up.
Pete Weber use to tap his index finger on the bowling ball then begin his approach
Less grab = less chicken wing. Less chicken wing = better leverage. Great Video guys. This comment is making me hungry.đ€Ł
Thank you
Such good advice... I just wish there was a way my kid could feel that forcing the down swing... so hard to break someone of it.
Man couldnât have come a better time when Iâm trying to increase my back swing length. Thank you!
if you're trying to increase your backswing start with your ball closer to your hips rather than up near your chin, then opposite if you're trying to decrease backswing and/or decrease speed
@@chieflongsock trying to increase it higher. Thanks for the info. Iâll definitely try that out. Just want to increase my speed is only reason. Maybe add some revs be good too. Thanks
Breathing is super underrated I find, I always seem more relaxed from a exhaled breath
After not bowling for 25 years and taking up golf in the meantime it's amazing how similar they are.
Its really is
Only 2 sports where your opponent is yourself
@@michaelalvarado6178 duuuuude yes i have to play my massive shank when i play golf im left handed and have to aim far right cause i just cant not leave my club face open
I do love this tip I could use just a little bit more help. I know I am super grabby on and on the way back. I have yet to hear or understand how does it feel when the ball is released into the push away is it hanging of your thumb fingers etc.. because at this point is when I usually get grabby with the thoughts that I am going to lose the ball on the way down into the backswing
Brad ur right! u know who does that all the time when on the approach chris prather he always does that
thx your share bowling from Macau
For me, when I need to fix or work on my backswing, it usually comes from working on the push away and timing.
working on this next time i practice
Wow its like you were watching me at state bowling lol i was struggling with my grip in the ball and the ball falling off my had so i bet everything was super tight and forced and thats why I couldnât get the ball to do the same thing twice
Thanks for the great tips ! You identify many of our (rank amateurs lol) faults with helpful info to overcome.
One question- How does a backswing get head levrl or higher without âmusclingâ when the push away is only belt or lower chest high ?
Thanks !
Lol you're so relaxed you fouled, great content though :)
The lag is pretty pronounced when I do a one step drills and I didn't know if that was a good thing or a bad thing so thanks for talking about lag. Next practice I'll focus on it, allow it to be there, and see if it helps give me a bit more speed.
thanks for the advice.. i usually force my way down.. and result my ball didnt hook as much i want...
Great video guys, I definitely needed this. Do these concepts loosely translate to the two handed style?
sure they do, the concept is just to relax, don't force the shot
Definitely, one of the things that was pointed out in a recent analysis of Belmonte's game, is how little effort he exerts loading up the shot. It enables him to save that energy for the bottom of the swing where he can do more with it. With the natural revs and power of two-handed bowling, you really don't need to try to force more power. Happy bowling to you.
Hey guys, thank you for this video. Last night in league I found that when I relaxed and let the swing happen the ball location improved. Any chance you can make a video and explain and show how you release the ball? Specifically the "relaxed" or "yo-yo" or "snap" release. I'm really struggling to get shape or the correct spin on the ball, it seems like when I try this I'm throwing really flat. Thanks
Finally you made this video . I been waiting for this . I bowl around 13 mph . I have no idea how people bowl 18 mph when the ball is so heavy
Are you like 5â 7â or shorter?
I use a three step approach and have a very short backswing. I consistently throw between 15 and 17 MPH when I throw with no spin to get a straight ball path. When I put spin on it to make it hook, my ball speed drops to around 12-13 MPH.
One thing that perplexes me a bit is that the 1 handers that throw high revs tend to have their elbow bent (like EJ) before release and I feel like you have to muscle your swing to get in that position. I understand why it creates higher revs, but when I think about it, I don't feel like it's a loose and natural action.
Very interesting you guys chose this topic. My ppl's have been telling my to stop grabbing and pushing and this brings things into thought.
I have a problem with high back swing which causes slightly more lag time and my feet are always trying to determine my release and I start grabbing at the ball to force it through. I've got my work cut out for me moving forward.
Thanks and keep the great content coming guys !! đ„đ„đ„
To Brad's point, it's so important to breathe at your ready position. Some of my best bowling comes when I take a deep breath then exhale before I take my shot.
Yâall should do a video on ball weight for new people. The advantages and disadvantages of different weight balls
Thanks guys for a very informative video! I always strain a muscle or two trying to force the ball down lane. The first few weeks I do great Iâm relaxed and bowling really good. I always blow up my average by doing this which is fine but the lane conditions at the house I bowl in change from medium oil to light oil. This drastically changes the way my ball hooks into the pocket. So I start forcing my throw. Should I get a ball with less hooking potential?
I am just getting into bowling again, and trying to learn to hook the ball. I bought a 15lb reactive resin Burner, but I am struggling with the weight. My left hip starts to hurt severely, and I cannot seem to get my wrist and hand to do much because itâs too heavy. Iâm 180lbs and 46 years old. Should I go with a much lighter ball to start, or just keep working with the heavy ball until I get stronger?
Second I think! :D Thanks for the video y'all! Haven't seen one like this in a minute, glad y'all are still helping people learn. You rock!! đŻđđ
In my youth my sport was baseball, then later, softball. I was by no means a power hitter, but as I got older, I realized the smoother my swing, the better I contacted the ball. If only I could translate that into my bowlingâŠ
As a golfer, the lag bit felt extremely natural to me when I learned that.
When I step up 2 bowl I'm having problems heading 2 the head pin including the arrows which spot is the right away to bowl straight 2 get strikes and spares
if you watch Norm Duke bowl he literally waggles the ball back and forth in his push away to keep his arm loose.
I wondered why he does this, thanks.
He holds it in his left hand and actually transfers it to his right hand during the push away..
That's true! I had never thought about that before
@@ElvisElgarEllis âNorm Duke: Learn to Bowlâ. Lesson #2 he covers his method, and why he has perfect timing all these years.
Yep lol
I find that if you let the ball swing naturally after your push-off (loose arm) you'll get a consistent pendulum swing and gravity helps eliminates that variable.
Quit tempting me into buying that zen soul!!!! Love my hybrids!
I'm getting back into the sport after an extended break, and one thing I just learned is that I've been stopping wrong my entire time; I've been planting my whole foot instead of balancing on my sole to slide, then using my heel to break. Additionally, I tend not to get very low, and instead toss the ball from about a foot up.
Are there any drills specifically for improving slide balance and posture, or would you just suggest doing one-step for that?
One step helped alot then progress to 2 3 and 4 or 5 whatever you prefer keeping that deep knee bend and posting every shot. That's my weakness is posting after my accident where I broke my back, hurts but I can now after lots of work get into decent consistent positions at the line after freaking hundreds of reps doing that progression. Good luck!! Also just for posterity, being up some at release isn't end of world type thing just so you're consistency is there. Be solid and posted when you release...