Is the Honda Navi worth it?..
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2022
- After owning the Honda Trail 125 for a few months it ended up being a huge letdown.. With the lack of high and low range transmission, clunky characteristics, and overall cheap feel of the bike, Honda did not do a good job keeping the classic CT alive. In today's video we end up trading the Trail for yet another small bore, budget motorcycle, the Honda Navi. After seeing them at the dealership I was not impressed but still wanted to give it a shot. After hopping on and twisting the throttle, what surprised me the most was just how much fun I was having. With the smooth power delivery of the CVT, and the overall ergonomics, this thing felt playful and right at home in the city!
Here are my honest thoughts on the 2022 Honda Navi.
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As someone who currently really wants a Navi I’m still pretty shocked to see a trade like this. But sometimes even a better bike just doesn’t feel “right” and something that should be worse ends up being more fun! It’s all personal preference. Here’s hoping I’ll be riding one soon
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Good to see a review on the navi but the Ct was a keeper.
Looking forward to what's next. 👍
Loving the content man, keep it up!
I added the weight to the clutch and it made a noticeable difference in pick up I’m 215 pounds and tucked in I can do 50 but I can ride at 45 pretty comfortably. Making a trail set up would be freaking awesome trying to find tires for it as I speak
Next month.... "I sold the Honda Navi and got a Monkey..."
He already had, or still has (?) a Monkey
A Monkey is a lot better bike.
Monkey is the best. I sold my 2021 monkey for $4000 and now they are much more. My local dealer has a few navis though that’s why I’m here.
I traded it for a pair of Nikes
Nice Navi. They look like a ton of fun. Back in 2018 I got my wife a Vittachi Rocket 150. It's a grom clone based on the SSR Razkull 125 frame with a Gy6 150 in it. She loves it still. I've done a ton of work to it 171 kit a Suzuki gn125/250 2.5 gal tank yss Grom shock new fork springs and cartridge emulators cvt work and mobbers. She loves her mini scram. Enjoy y'all's new bike. If it's anything like my wife's bike it will be surprisingly good off road.
Excellent video
Just be careful on the navi, the front forks are prone to bending and parts are like 4 months back ordered. Also the rear brake activates both front and rear. I deleted that feature lol. I daily my navi to work everyday and keep the crf300 for the longer hauls.
Yes !!!!! I need my navi to look like that!
I love the pelican on the back. I can’t wait to ride one.
I just got my grass hopper NAVi yesterday. I agree that ranger green is really great color, but thought that grass hopper green is safer in night. It's more pop and cute in my taste.
Since it's more like a scooter than a motorcycle, I'd love to see you do a segment/review a ADV 150. Curious what your opinions/thoughts on that scooter would be.
I haul my Navi with the same hitch carrier. It doesn't fit the Navi well, though, so I shortened up each end and it fits like a dream now.
What is it called
I’d like to see your review of the Honda adv 150! Maybe one day soon?
I have one and couldn’t be happier with the performance out of a 150cc scooter.
That fuel canister is hella dope
I agree i like the green 😎
where did you get that trailor hitch? do you like it? did the ramp
come with it?
I've bin going back and forth in my head over getting a Navi. I'm a escooter person and think it would be a nice change with a level of familiarity. Not sure how it would hold up against a Southern NY winter but it has to be better then how my nanrobot or my dualtron hold up in the cold weather.
New York? That’s the north brother ya damn Yankees
@@daynmitchell7543 southern ny*
Look into getting something fuel injected if you will be riding a bunch when it gets cold and don't plan to do too much to the intake and exhaust. If you feel like tinkering and messing with the intake and exhaust for power a carb is easier to tune without any special tools, although RollingWrench makes fuel injection tuning tools for scooters and bikes now.
@@daynmitchell7543 Southern NY and Northern NY are very different, one gets normal "Winter" the other gets "Hell freezing over".
My thought, why would you trade a trail for a Navi? The trail is hands down the far superior bike.
and costs twice as much maybe trade for 2 Navis that would be about right. Dumb trade.
Or maybe not showing the whole transaction on YT #TaxationIsTheft
Well this should be interesting!
I just bought a 2022 Navi. I wanted a green one but they only had magenta and orange so I went with the orange one. I am happy with it so far but I want to put nobbies on it because I live in Panama now and there are a lot of dirt roads. I saw a video of a guy who tried to put in Hobbies on his and he ended up having to completely dismantle and cut apart the back fender. And looked like a pain in the ass. Were you able to get Nabis on yours without a hassle?
The MSRP is around $1800 but from what I've heard from people looking at them the out the door price is double that after all the extra dealer fees they are charging now.
Yeah the biggest barrier to Honda selling these things is the dealers. Why can't I just go to honda's website and order one for delivery? The thing that chased me off from buying a pair of them and switching to groms instead was a couple guys that worked there that owned and sold their navis, because the fuel range was a LOT shorter than advertised. I wish the Navi was EFI, it sure would fix the fuel range issue.
That Navi looks pretty good. I would remove that silly tape from the headlight though. Unless you have plans to track that Navi (which would make for a funny video in itself) the tape serves absolutely no function nor, in my opinion does it look good or cool.
Couldn't agree more.
On racetracks, people did it so it would scatter less and not hurt other vehicles when things were made of GLASS, people usually do the tape thing for looks now though.
@@DemonIsland that’s what I meant when I said “unless you have plans to track that Navi…”
That’s ‘track’ as in racetrack. This is also what I meant in using the word “function”
@@joujimiichi1 I'm just detailing so others have an idea of why it exists in the first place. I'm aware of what the words mean, I ride my self, even rode cross country.
Where did you get the seat and handle bar grips?
Have you test rode the bintelli beast 150 yet? I first started looking at that but then i started looking at the Navi. There are things I wish the Navi had that the Bintelli has, but I also wish that the bintelli had that storage.
I’ve never heard of Bintelli but as I keep researching, it seems like it has more issues than the Navi. I trust Honda but am wondering what kind of aftermarket stuff the Navi could be outfitted with
I bought a cheap cone filter, mnnthbx jet kit from swapshop, and a 15$ piece of coolant pipe for my intake. $80. Youbdont need the 130$ kit from mnnthbx
Trail 125 delivery video much more fun! JS
That would make a great first bile for my daughter she really wants a scooter.
I have that same Harbor Freight case on my Grom's Vagabond rack. It fits 2 cans of 24 oz Arizona Tea perfectly. Or 24 oz of Mike's Hard Lemonade.
MSRP is way too high. $1807? It should be $1805. Now that will make it a best seller.
What bike hauler is that? Can that handle a 250l?
What kind of grips are those?
I wish honda offered a navi model with like a maxi scooter powertrain so it could go at least 60 with a heavier rider. where I live the only way to get around is a freeway that's speed limit is 55mph and I'm too heavy 250lb+ to hit 55 on a navi.
Wasn't this like 1800 new and stealerships are charging what now
A month ago you loved the Trail 125. What happened?
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Love to see some off-road tires on this for light off-road. 🧐🤔 🇺🇸
We looked at navis but want to go with some groms because they are fuel injected
hahaha graceland shopping center cool to see someplace i grew up.
I checked the calendar.
Nope. Not April 1st.
I cannot believe you got
Rid of the trail 125
Are those Navis moped
isn't the engine behind the storage box? I thought the CVT system was from mid-bottom to the rear?
Yes, typical scooter cvt/engine setup
Great review man! Thinking about a first bike at some point in my future and it's between this in the nut brown colorway, and the Amstar Nostalgia 50 in matte black. I much prefer the look of the Amstar, but it is made in China and doesn't quite have the reliability of Honda. Decisions!
I have a Navi for around town trips, and it is great for that, but trading the 110 for it is not a great choice IMO. Top speed is more like 50 if on flat ground, up any small grade its 45. (stock)
Mine will only go 50 downhill
Mine back fires at 53 (downhill). Thats with jets and an intake. Dude needs to get his info right before making a vid. Carbon fiber... HAHAHAHA
I got mine up to 55 now with minor tuning. Hoping to get a little more out of it when i upgrade the exhaust. So far with only $100 in upgrades.
Perfect city bike.
I hope you got some cash as well for that trade!
Was $3500 Cnd on the road.
3000k on mine. sucks on the hills
Let's fix some of your miss information. 60mph, not going to happen, more like 50 on a good day. If buying new, you will not able to get it for less than 2000, more like 2500-3000 depending on the dealer. I just sold mine, the biggest gripe which you did not even mention for me was that it is carburated. I tried to make it a bit more off-road worthy but the aftermarket and tire support is just not there, but since you change bikes like clothes, not a big deal ... lol Overall it is a decent bike but as you said, Honda is cheaping out lately on basic stuff.
You mean to say you bought one not knowing all this!!! Honda is not hiding anything...buyer be informed..not beware!
@@just.my.2cents yes and no, carb I did know but did not expect to have problems early on, tires were told by the sales guy to be easily swappable, not the case.
CBD is not so inocent. It makes you do stupid things like trading Trail for Navi.
trail > navi any day
Let’s gooooooooooooooo
You should get a benelli tnt 135
For 3 years, I prodded my local dealership to sell me the last Honda PS250 Big Ruckus scooter that they had on the showroom floor. It was a 2006 build, I believe the last production year for that model. It sat there with the MSRP tag of around $5600 & the owner wouldn't budge. During that gas crisis, he thought some Yuppie with a BMW would pick it up & leave his car home. Finally, in 2009 I got him to sell it to me for Cost, about $4500. I had 5 motorcycles in the stable & I have to admit, it was so much fun & unique looking with the popup rear pillion seat becoming a backrest for the driver & a molded luggage rack under it, that I installed a Saddlemen XL canted sissybar bag on which made it look kind of a '60's Woody station wagon, that I had guys at red lights rolling their windows down & asking me specs. I would say, "70 mph & 70 mpg, just not at the same time" lol. It was the only & last scooter that I've ever owned, but it had me giggling inside my helmet every time that I rode it!!!
Ruckus is an ugly thing.
the mark up is insane on these Navis 😩 $1000+
i give it 2 weeks. I would never had made that trade.
I hope you got some cash with that trade…
Nice ride.. Do you need an endorsement for a scooter?
Not sure about other states but in CA it is considered a motorcycle and needs the endorsement to ride.
Yes you do.
It depends on the state and the engine's CC's. I would assume that most states need an endorsement for 50cc and up.
Nice thumbnail 😝
I’d be lying if I said I thought that was a good trade but if you like it then I guess that’s all that matters lol.
Bring back the grom videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never!!!!!
I'm not even a big bike person, and I know that trading that Hunter Cub for a Navi was a bad deal, lol.
New rider starting of just right …no helmet 🥴. I know it’s a choice in some places but for me just seems stupid . 40 odd years of riding and glad it’s just a total habit that I sit on any bike and put that lid on .
Apart from that great vid as usual
The Navi will probably end up well north of $3k and closer to $4k if buying new after all the dealer fees, taxes, tags, markup, etc.
My local dealer was $2,300.
I paid 3k
I paid 3k out the door in dallas
I bought one Yesterday in Canada brand new 2022 red on clearout. Paid $2,735 CAD ($2,068 usd) out the door.
Price was $1,799 CAD ($1,355 usd) plus fees and taxes.
What a downgrade.
came here to say the same
Amen.
Forgot to mention it could carry 330 pounds on top of it
He spent more money on the seat and grips instead of a jet kit, and cone filter. I spent 80$ total on all that. Take the corks out. >IT DOES NOT DO 60....< 48 tops until intake and jets and youll only go 53 >tops
Plane story did not happen
It absolutely did, second time it’s happened to me actually. Back in HS we flew out to CO to snowboard and I damn near lost it. A bit claustrophobic I guess
$3,000 out the door when I tried to buy one
i have one and my main complaint is the gas mileage u can only go about 55 miles before u have to refill or ur walking about 65 miles total also needs high test so the extra money in the long run u could have a grom or any other mini. i have little over 3k miles when it hits 5 im trading it on another scooter. honestly dont buy this little turd
No lol
This is a downgrade from the trail and the trail was a downgrade from the 300l. Is the next chapter going to be pocket bikes?
roller blades, lol.
trading a 4k dollar bike for a 2k dollar scooter
I call it the best lunch pail on wheels cheap dangerous just a cheap blow for the doe $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
your not going to go 60mph on the navi. more like 50-52
Bruh what
LOL~
I call it the knobber a cheap blow for the money ha ha ha ha waste of money
To me, no.
Oof
Honda says $1807. True cost out the door is always $2200-$2800, depending on dealer. Honda says 110MPG, yet real world shows ~75MPG, with some getting as bad as 45MPG at top speed with some headwind. Heck, my 21 year old 250cc Honda Reflex gets 65-70MPG. So NAVI's level of performance and efficiency is quite bad... Let's see how the long term reliability shapes up. My bet is it's just marginally better than Chinese scooters.
Nobbies
this makes Husqvarna look bad and cheap
The navi could cost 200$ more and have a fuel injector
Better than Grom? Nope... less fuel capacity and worse MPGs. The storage space is nice though.
True but it’s half the cost too.
better than grom certain scenarios
New grom has higher top speed thanks to new gear also in honda monkey first