The Male Loneliness Epidemic | Asmongold Reacts
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“Being alone for a While IS dangerous. lt' s addicting. Once you see how peaceful it is, you don't want to deal with people anymore”. - Tom Hardy
I'm conflicted, sometimes I want someone and I got out and meet someone, but then after a few hours I miss my loniless and I feel sooo f-ing good for weeks
I'm living proof of this. I can't seem to escape the peace and bliss of my own company.
@blue69waffles Remember this comes from a guy that probably had way too many people around him at all times. Very different for people who have been loneley all their lives
You forgot the sigma male hastag
no its not ive only ever been alone, im so lonely i wish i had human comfort
I like how some of these tweets are laughing at men for being lonely, as if being lonely and isolated isn’t considered some of the worst torture that exists
Sadly society views lonliness as a sign of weakness to men
@@christiansnaturestudio6599 caring what other people think of you is a sign of weakness. There’s no guide book on how to be a man or navigate life, if you let everyone who doesn’t care about you trip you up then you’ll never be happy.
Man, you are really making my 4 years of isolation feel like an achievement right now lol
@@mesadrums375 Not caring about what other people think of you is an unachievable trait. Don't get me wrong, one can get close to this: Not caring about peoples opinions you don't care about.
But detaching from all people and only caring about yourself... this is an impossible thing to do, and probably quite the harmfull for one too. Right from birth until we die, we have been attached and reliant on other humans through all of human history. This is how we evolved and therefore this is how our biological chemistry is developed. Heck, there even exists a study that shows babies dying if you deprive them of this human connection. This seems rooted deep inside of each and everyone of us.
Loving yourself is a good thing. But to have atleast a few people who you can trust or relate to is also very important. Further: Without feedback from others you will get stuck on personal development.
So please, care about what other people think of you. But only choose those, who deserve it.
@@Icegloo24 I literally said that if you let everyone who doesn’t care about you trip you up, you’ll never be happy. You should care what your loved ones think, but if you’re striving to make some dummies on twitter happy you are weak and have your priorities wrong.
The internet absolutely ruined everything. I used to be sociable but then I attended high school online from grades 10-12 and completed my bachelor's online and now work remotely. No friends, no romantic experiences. Just video games.
That sounds like a dream come true!!! What job do you have?
My best friend was largely homeschooled, I was basically his only real life friend. He joined the military which traumatized him about human interaction, became a hermit from the gubbamint money and stopped being alive at 28 (heart attack)
For me it's the other way around. I was CRIPPLINGLY shy as a child and young teen, but the more I interacted with people on the internet the more confidence I gained in real life.
Everyone is different, and every different person has to contend with different circumstances. The internet didn't ruin anything, it just exacerbated already developing problems into full blown crises. It also gave access to the wealth of human knowledge to basically everyone.
@@babyduckling129 its fine until it isnt. I wish you the best in burning out from doing something fun for an extended period
@@20IA Wait, are you saying you want to burn out? Kinda reads you forgot a "not" there
And here I am demonstrating that, I forgot a "him". One could probably make a moderately profound point about me forgetting "him", but let's not go overboard here - my fingers are just too slow for my average IQ brain to keep up.
This ladies and gentlemen is exactly why you should avoid Twitter! 9 out 10 comments you see on that platform is either someone being negative about a situation or talking trash about other's.
Twitter is definitely something to avoid it can be a vary toxic environment
Asmon really being stuck in the "whatever a woman does is because she's a victim. If she behaves like an asshole, it's probably because she was abused before", completely forgetting that bullies don't always come from difficult families and sociopaths and psychopaths are still a thing
Or
Men are withdrawing in droves …
WHAT ABOUT THE 10 WOMAN THAT ARE LONELY?!
But you're talking about 1% cases. When women are toxic its 99% trauma. When men are toxic its because they're 12.
@@Heeroyui752 curb your misandry.
@@Heeroyui752 Are you making a joke, are you 12, or are you just mentally deficient? Which of those three options is correct?
Sociopaths are "made", so even they ave some amount of blame that can be placed on "society".
You know shit's bad when Asmongold, from his throne of millions of streamerbux, says he wants to go back to being a kid and hanging out with his friends goofing off.
"There is no old King that would not accept being a young Captain." a Serbian poet, diplomat, philosopher, Jovan Dučić
I mean hell, who wouldn't? You are absolved of most responsibility, you likely have other people to provide for you, you don't have to work 40+ hours of the week. School sucks but you're with friends so it's not that bad. Don't have to worry about taxes, politics, or any 'adult' shit. You have energy and enthusiasm out the ass because you're youthful in body and mind. Life almost exclusively gets worse for most people as they age.
Also Austin has gone to shit over the years. Back in the 90's and early 2000's our town was a lot more weird and fun. Now it's just another corporate town full of influencers.......ohh 😂
Money can buy happiness, but it always takes more and more money each time, and eventually happiness fades away. There's nothing like the joy of spending time with your bros.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 if any are alive long enough
Asmongold is the only reaction channel who can make a 10-minute video an hour long.
While giving his own shitty takes.
his takes are good mostly idk what your doing @@Jabrownie23
@@TheSaltiestEver i mean.. some are intentionally kinda shitty to be funny 😂
well fair i dont normally agree 100%with anyone and i might not have seen the really shitty takes all that much too@@fok8810
Not the only one in czechia we have streamer who can do 4 hours reaction on 20 to 30 mins video
I like how Asmongold pauses to unwrap a thought that is litirally said by Shoe in next 10-30 seconds of the video when he resumes. That makes me believe again in common sense and in mankind future in general.
from the few videos ive seen of his, this is every video of his lol
The best thing I ever did for myself was get a dog. No matter how crappy your family is (if you even have one), you know that dog is going to greet you happily each and every time you get home. The dog won't judge you, use you, or stab you in the back. It won't ditch you in the rough times, either. The dog depends on you for its very survival, but in exchange it'll have your back through thick and thin. The only downside to owning one is how fleeting their lives are compared to ours.
i think for the same reason a cat is a better companion, i love both, but the dog is smart enough to know it depends on you, and consequently it doesn't usually try to leave you
a cat? it can survive on the street and it knows it, and it makes sure you know that, which is why it feels so special when you find a cat that seems to care for you on the same level a dog would, if the cat didn't like you, it would simply leave when it found the opportunity, and with how small and agile cats are? they will find plenty of chances to leave
i've chosen to live with multiple of both
thanks for the idea might as well look into it if ive fix myself and responsible for taking care of doge!
My 16 yr old dog has been with me since i graduated HS. He's getting old, but i wouldn't trade him for anything. He was with me through everything.
My dog is my best friend, we've been through hell and back together. Through eviction, changing states and jobs multiple times, and being at my absolute lowest, my boy Grimm has faithfully been beside me, helping me get through. Hes saved my life more times than I can count There are days I come home just done with it all, ready to just eat a fucking bullet, and there that happy bastard is, so full of love and excitement to see me, and I live another day. Point is, get a dog, Everyone deserves to be loved unconditionally by someone.
I got a praying mantis that I've bonded with no regrets
I feel like I have had 2 of my worlds collide with this video, but as an adult man I have no close friends and no support in helping not be lonely. I basically get attacked online anytime I share this.
You are not alone, by far not. The other's just had the same experience and stopped sharing online as well. Try looking in places where you would hide from the world, and you might find some new friends.
Ive friends but they live in my hometown. So i expend 1 years alone and 1 week with friends lol.
But im fine with that.
Im 40 and i kept 2 friends, the rest can F off with their social media fomo, i live in a bubble and im happy there. What saves me is my now wife, without her id def feel lonely so...i would suggest trying to find someone, hard as it may be, because without someone to support you after everydaylife took you for a spin the entire day, it sure helps. Oh im introverted, so i tried finding someone who was also that and its a must. My ex was a social media clout addict and F me i got tired of it...
Don’t go to the internet for sympathy.
do you have anything you like doing? I did after hours sculpting classes and kept a whole group of friends out of it, same place had photography and editing classes too.
i 100% feel your sentiment but its important to understand that meeting people in life is an active thing, its not something that happens to you (after high school).
As a member of the demographic the Shoe video refers to, i can only plead that you focus on other topics. She seems to actually understand and care, and i get a very different feeling from you. The loneliness becomes a problem when it's not what you want, but your mind has no tools to change it, and your life experiences have taught you that trying only ends with you being disappointed in yourself. Also, so many comments here say "just get out there" or something similar, but for some of us "out there" is like a psychological horror VR game where all the people are pre-recorded holograms. Edit: I have a few close friends, can't even imagine how much shittier it would feel to be utterly alone all the time.
I pray you never experience real horror; as it seems you'll fucking explode at the seams when faced with something actually becoming of the word.
The only way someone can wind up with this viewpoint is in a nearly complete and total vacuum of suffering and adversity.
It's okay to fuck up. It's okay to say weird shit. It's okay to make bad jokes. It's not okay to act like you're the first fucking person to have ever experienced these "failures".
>The loneliness becomes a problem when it's not what you want, but your mind has no tools to change it, and your life experiences have taught you that trying only ends with you being disappointed in yourself
If I was the ghost of christmas past and could take you back through every single "fuck up", how easy would it be for me to unfuck literally every single situation? how many completely unrecoverable and unwinnable situations have you actually been subject to as opposed to an accumulation of minor failures and mishaps that you let knock you down as if they were your daughter being diagnosed with untreatable cancer?
Both the right and left are guilty of giving brain dead advice completely devoid of nuance and individuality.
"your" specific "issue" is likely highly personalized and you will need therapy ranging from mild to intense depending on how long you were allowed to have these ass backwards thought patterns reinforced without consequence.
Making a lot of money and working 60-65 hours a week helps.
"She seems to actually understand and care, and i get a very different feeling from you."
I agree with this and the statement preceding it.
Unlike some extremely uneducated pricks who also commented, I understand from experience that the male loneliness epidemic has nothing to do with men's choices. We can't make a series of choices that forces other people to open up to strangers.
I am funny, charming, attractive, tall, and extremely lonely. Everyone I've ever tried to make friends with is either so debilitated by their own loneliness that interacting with them is hardly bearable (and yes, I recognize that I likely fit into that category as well) or their lives are already so full that they don't have the ability to make new friends. That is a consequence of an extreme imbalance in society itself, and I alone have no power to fix that. Even if I wanted to, I'm too busy taking care of myself to get major change like that accomplished. We're all so overworked, overtaxed, overstimulated that we can barely think about anyone we don't absolutely have to. Let's not blame men for the circumstances that society placed them into, shall we?
@@akaku9 - take a step back. It's pretty cringe to come on here and start gatekeeping life's hardships and how they affect people. You know jack squat about the OP, and you're not qualified to weigh in on their position.
Just go outside lol 4Head
Ill be honest, i just want someone to give me a hug and tell me its gonna be alright. It probably bring a smile to my face for months. I cherish those moments because they are extremely rare
Why would you think they'd know if things are gonna be alright?
@@nonono9194 It's not about whether or not the person saying it knows that for sure, it's about the reassurance and emotional support.
@@kungfuvoodoo9889 for women that's understandable, but men, na that's weak
@@nonono9194wanting emotinal support as men does not necessary means he is weak. some people went through a lot or genetically depressed, they want someone or something to distract them from harsh reality.
@@CJ-io1mx na it does if that SOLVES your emotional problem as the OP said, nothing wrong with having times when you're down and want comfort off a partner or whatever, but a man solves problems to fight off depression or tragedy, a hug won't fix anything we're logical creatures more than emotional ones
Right = stop being a cry baby
Left= apologize for existing.
"It's all your fault, but you're the only one who can get you out of it" vs "it's all your fault and you need to appease braindead leftists to get you out of it, now vote for my guy"
Yep no winning lol
Whoever you labeling as `left` in US have nothing to do with the real left movement.
From a young age I've seen 99.9% of all news/politics as nothing more then just bs
Right is better: It at least implies improvement and value intrinsic in you. Left is implying that your existence is the problem.
As a woman, Asmon is giving way too much credit to this female ideology. Nothing particularly bad has to happen to make a woman buy into this perspective. Simply hearing that men are bad often enough can make them believe that it's true. I have two sons and I worry for them.
Pray for your sons
no dont pray for your sons like this guy said, actualy be there fo them. tell them you love them. talk about these problems and make sure to show them that you care
@@nogardhd7700 Yes, all of that, which I'm sure she already does, considering her concern for her two sons, _and_ also praying. Because if that's what you believe in, what's the harm exactly? And how can one not do everything you said on top of praying?
As a 21 year old guy, I hate to say that your worry is warranted. But the best thing you can do is show your sons you love them and care about them. A big reason I'm still around today is because the thought of what my suicide would do to my mom absolutely destroys me. I could never do that to her. I know she's already had a hard life as is. Love really is the answer to the majority of the world's problems today. So love your sons.
I agree, it's also so funny to me how my sister and me were both growing up, we're just one year apart so it's relatively equal grounds. When i was 15 i was a shutin that hated society for a long time and nobody gave a shit about me and wether i existed or not, but my sister was 14 and constant dm's new friends and experiences simply cause she was female. I love my sister, i would kill for her, i would never want her to be lonely. But the contrast in living is crazy to me. Also to be honest my sister used to be very overweight at that time and not really much too look at for a long time, but i was considered good looking by a lot of people in my family etc. So even the looks didn't carry enough importance for anyone to give a shit. I grew out of that phase though and became far more charismatic and confident about my head and understanding about stuff. It's like the video said, you kind of become value'd as a man for the things you learn. As opposed to girls who mainly get judged on looks and after that the personality is part of the equation.
"Women are people" followed by "men should just grow up" shows a crazy lack of awareness. Lmfao we're both just people
I'm 26 and I've not even been on a date before. I have no friends either. I don't think my situation will ever improve. Feels bad man.
go gym and find a hobby where u can socialize with other people
everything will work out if you try
Yes, go to a gym or something else where you might meet people with similar interests. Most important is that it is a frequent regular event. Maintain discipline and don't expect quick results. Keep doing it weekly and a year from now you will think back to now and realizer you live a completely different life.
@@ionutsetin2159trying can be easier said than done. that "go to gym/ get a social hobby" stuff can feel like the "don't rape" stuff discussed in the video. social anxiety is not a joke and in the end, yeah the only way is through it, but that's practically the goal not a possible first step.
Actual first steps depend on the exact situation and there unfortunately isn't a blanket works for everyone step
Actually could be worse.
Don't trip over it OP
Find GOD brother,. Your name is a Biblical name. read the BIBLE, and obey GOD, he's much better than any woman/friend.
One of my highschool friends accused two of her exes of raping her 4-6 years after the fact. She was adamant about the dates cause she wrote them in her diary the day of. It was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that neither of them were even in the country during the weeks leading up to and following the dates. Also, in college where one of my buddies got accused of raping a girl at a party, but he and i were out camping that weekend. I think you underestimate how often false reporting happens.
So presumably out of the 100s of women you’ve met along the way, you know of 3 false reports and two of them were the same person?
Imagine going to prison and becoming someone's b!tch for that sh!t.
the problem is that its almost impossible to get a correct estimate of the number of false accusations compared with real cases of rape, because a staggering amount of cases of rape go unreported or can't be proved, so we can only look at the cases that were proved to be false accusations, and those are just a fraction of the fraction. so the data is all skewed, you can't look at all cases that didn't lead anywhere and extrapolate the number of real false accusations from it. meaning its more likely its actually overreported.
The people that turn to false reports and fake gr8pe stories have absolutelly no idea (or are psycho enough to not care) how much damage that can do to someone and not only that but they only make it harder to believe actual legit cases as a result.
Back in highschool there was this chick absolutelly mad crazy about me. In the last year of highschool she texted me saying she had been crying the whole day because she was taken advantage of sexually by one guy she invited to her home while the parents were away. As I kept poking at the story to figure out what really happened suddenly it turns out it hadn't been just one guy but also another two that helped him do it... needless to say I was already not super convinced; As messed up as guys can be I doubt a whole trio of them would have agreed to do something like that to a non-consenting teenage chick at her place. At school the next day(s) she seemed as normal as she had always been, there was no talk of police or such a case happening in town (it would have been town gossip for sure), she didn't go to the principals office or anything, plain same old chick.
Bottom line to that whole ordeal is even though I'm quite convinced it was just one of her antics to try and get sympathy, affection or attention from me I cannot say for sure 100% that it didn't happen. And that memory of the incident comes back to my head every now and then and seriously messes with my mental health; It's like "should I have done this, should I have done that, should I have believed her, did she go on to live a miserable life after highschool because I wasn't there for her?, Maybe I ran the risk of her comitting self delete and neglected that by not helping out"... All that shit can break someone, and the incident described was about 15 years ago and still it messes with me.
Nowadays I find it extremelly hard to believe the overwhelming majority of accusations and cases as a result (Women nowadays are also much wilder than back then so I don't blame anyone for trying to distance themselves from matters like these). It's a good thing that I don't automatically believe accusers but it shouldn't have to be this way and it's only hurting actual victims.
I've been falsely accused of very similar things myself. It's too common these days.
I never thought I would see the day where Asmon is reacting to Shoe on head.
She's a socialist now unfortunately.
Somebody is gonna get real butthurt about It, guaranteed.
came here to comment this same thing lol
crossing streams here fr
Here before Josh strife Hayes reacts
Validating yourself on teh Internets 101: never regard anyone as a complex human being with years of personal experience and trauma and shit, just pick the most suitable label on them and treat it as their only personality trait
psh - sure, _emoji boy._
(I feel so validated rn)
@@SpaceMissile Good job! FeelsOkayMan 👍
@@mityakiselev lmao
I wish this wasn't true
I don’t think tit implants and height surgery are even close to being comparable. You have to learn to walk again and height surgery is painful as hell.
It's also dangerous, has high potential for long term damage, and comes with a real possibility that you'll lose your legs. Pretty sure recovery and cost are exponentially higher as well.
When you get boob surgery or a bbl come back and let me know how easy it is.
@@damieo8139 Nobody said it was easy. Please actually read comments before responding.
@@Xyponxso should i not do it i am 1.80 but feel small
@@Xyponxi don’t know men
"Master cheif convinces you to not watch incest porn." Is a sentance i never knew could exist. 😂😂😂
"incest" (people are not related anyway) porn is probably the most popular category xD How do I know ? Hm...
@@vashe9 that's depressing. Incest tags give me a shudder of revulsion and a hard nope.
@@vashe9 While porn is bad, incest in particular is way worse and imo i'd stay away from that even if you are watching porn. That has to be damaging to some degree to watch. Even the step-bro stuff is probably pushing it honestly
@@jazzman7842Why do you think that porn is bad?
LOL!!
I like how being independent and an introvert is being labeled as being a "loner creep".
This IS the reason why I don't care to interact with society.
Tbf being independent and an introvert is not keeping you from making friends or what makes you a „loner creep“. Its because you’re not interacting with society.
Introverts can be friends and friendships don’t induce any kind of dependence, friendship is usually a win-win situation.
I’m married, but still independent (as is she, because we respect each other and even though we are married, we acknowledge that we are still individuals within the marriage), and I’m fairly introverted for the most part. Don’t think I’ve ever been labeled a loner creep. Could be because when I am around other people I still make an effort to be friendly
@@Fantaztig Yeah I agree, I have a couple close friends but I don't really care for superficial friendships. My point was that the media tends to worry about nothing, like taking a liking to being alone shouldn't be critisized AT ALL, you enjoy what you enjoy and people should respect that.
@@hitthegoatOh man. I really hope you just poorly articulated that and are mistaking personal space for independence. If not you subscribed to some real feminist BS if you believe yourself or your partner to be independent. That sort of mindset eventually gets you cucked, replaced or divorced.
*shrugs* Maybe even enjoy watching it burn??? I just don't care anymore. Why should I care about a society that has ZERO interest in themselves.
10:01 after listening to this, it makes me glad I have ambition, really makes me grateful about the way my parents brought me up, a planned career, sure I didn’t have everything and struggled but damn this makes me happy knowing it could be worse
I feel similar. I make money indulging in one of my addictions, programming. And it's good money too, it saved my life. Been lucky enough to buy a house and provide for a family. If I couldn't make money that way I would have been lost, I wouldn't have known what to do.
Boys, if there's any reaction almost three times the length of the original video, you know it' an Asmon take.
My personal concern is that I have become very comfortable by myself, and have developed some bad habits as a result, but I haven't lost the feeling of loneliness. I worry that I may be too far gone at this point.
Crack fills the gap quite well lol not even joking.
I felt the same, but now that I work in the customer service field I have made female friends and talk to pretty women everyday, you can reverse it by exposing yourself to uncomfortable socialization. Talking to my coworkers or friends about their relationships have made me aware that most people have unnusual unique problems in life, no matter how strange you feel there are plenty of people that are barely acting what is consider normal as well, dont try crack but maybe marijuana, mushrooms, or lsd. It made me more humble and self loving while also encouraging me to make a change to become the person I want to be, so far Ive only lost weight but I've also gotten 50-100% better at talking to people, and empathizing with them.
You always have a chance man, that "confort" is incredibly numbing but once you get to a certain point you actually get tired of being tired, so for me look for that discomfort
very relatable
Definitely relatable... I used to go to the gym before 2020. Then downfall started...
A big part of it is that men have no support and get no empathy or sympathy. Even in this video every time Asmon says something about what men go through he immediately cuts himself off with "It's worse for women" or "Well women go through this too". Men can't have any sort of help without being told what they're going through isn't that bad or someone else has it worse. We never dote on men. There's a reason why a lot of those AI videos, ASMRs or even what men pay OF girls to say is simply "I care about you, I love you". Because men aren't loved without being of use to something or someone. Men are also portrayed constantly as monsters or predators. Oh, a man is being nice and sympathetic to women, oh he's not kind or compassionate he just wants to fuck her. Oh women don't like men? It's men's fault. I'm sick of being told everything is our fault that we're responsibile for everything. Men aren't viewed as people we're looked at as tools.
the way I describe it is this. "it doesn't matter what your beliefs are, odds are you want men to be your disposable heroes, either explicitly or implicitly"
@apache8795 very well said, thank you
But neither do women.
No one gets free support empathy etc... Men no less than women.
And at least men have it easier in many ways.
So men can either complain they get no support or grow up, face the outside world, make friends and then get some support.
@@etienne8110 you're literally proving them right
@@jeffreychandler8418 Just pointing reality.
You think women get support? No.
They just toughen up.
Expecting unconditionnal support is just being delusionnal/childish (for both men and women).
He talks about young boys not liking being told what to do, and saying that is the reason that men don't have friends, but then mentions that he and his friends were like that.... so clearly that behavior isn't the reason if you *had* friends like that?
Just because he was a crappy teen doesn't mean an entire issue spanning an age group up to 20 years older than that isn't its own thing, or that everyone fits into the same category. It can exist without you being part of or even relevant to the group. And its extremely arrogant to dismiss it as "I was like this, so I should assume every guy is like this, and so this isn't an issue."
The idea that peoplein the 50s were happier because they had a "north star" is ridiculous. They had ASSETS. The post war economy was the greatest ever in US history. It started to tank in 1971 and has continued downwards. We are poorer now than we were in the great depression, but no one wants to say that out loud.
I have friends and family but still feel lonely sometimes. As a man, no one cares about my soul crushing loneliness. When I open up about it I usually get criticized and made fun of. So there’s few positives to me opening up emotionally. It sucks but all I can do is keep going.
"I used to think that the worst thing in life was to end up alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel alone."
Just know that you are not alone in the struggle. Lots of people have the same issue and for some, making fun of and mocking others is how they cope with their own issues.
It sucks but it just takes time to chip away the wall.
My male friends/family don't make fun of me when I open up, only my female friends/family. My theory is they've been told their whole lives men have enormous privilege, so they think me complaining about life as a man is either hilariously pathetic, or like I'm trying to say women have it easy by comparison. Never open up to women, that's what your dad and buddies are for.
We were built to go out and conquer the world, succumbing to loneliness would be in direct contradiction to that goal. That's why we have social structures in place to make you feel bad for it. Get stronger or die out and let the more worthy carry humanity's torch forward. That's the idea.
Stay strong struggler
‘i’ve found that my life has never once gotten better by being more vulnerable.’
i hope this wasnt a sarcastic take, because this is 100% facts.
Yeah people will chew you up and spit you out for that.
Well, yeah, life is hard, you have to find the right people in your life that won't try to use it against you. Not all people will have good intentions, no shit.
it's literally like a video game boss, if you show any vulnerability it will get used to destroy you.
I absolutely disagree. If you don't allow yourself to show your vulnerability all you do is put on a mask, not address the issue. Thats how depression gets worse and suicide numbers spike.
@bernhardlabus8511 it still depends of other people, to cause they may harm you with the points that you show to them
Napoleon: I don't even have any good skills.
Pedro: What do you mean?
Napoleon: You know, like nunchuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills.
women being unattractive with higher standards isnt due to higher standards in looks from men, women on average are overweight for their height being 5’4
It'll always be insane to me how people blame their poor partner decisions on anyone but themselves, then proceed to do their absolute best effort to contribute to the problem.
I'm guilty of this. Whether it happened to me or someone else I have a terrible habit of lumping a person who did something terrible into the demographic they associate with. I need to make a more concerted effort to tell myself that there are still people who don't fall into, and steer clear of, stereotypes.
@@madpinoy5683what he's saying is that no one else is to blame for the relationships you choose. You can't even blame your partner because you allow the behavior. It's narcissistic if you're always playing the victim. If you are consistently going for people who aren't interested in you, people who cheat on you, people who use you for validation etc then you need to take responsibility for the relationships you get into that are not healthy. He's saying take responsibility for the partners you choose
I know you have a Chad PFP but... This is such a Chad take
@@madpinoy5683 You and me both, man. Amen to that
Well, sometimes you gotta date people to figure out down the line that they’re red flag central. Many people don’t present these initially.
My life pre 21 all I wanted was a relationship. Now at 24 I decided to completely give up because I don't see it being worth the effort. This also leads to my family constantly asking why I don't date and wondering if I'm gay which just sucks.
At least you still have them, stay strong brother
Happiness is innate, it has to start with you. If you meet that one in a billion girl, fantastic. But there is no law that says you need a woman to be happy in life.
You have lots of time to work on yourself. Remember if you want someone else to love you, you have to love yourself.
Being gay isn't just sucking bro, there's a whole bunch of other stuff you can try!
Mom keeps asking me if I want to get married knowing full well I only make 1200 a month. It's baffling.
As a grown man in my 30s, I'm lucky that I can count on two hands how many people I can trust to have my best interest at heart. And most of them are family, I only have 2 friends that would qualify. 2 people that arent directly family that would help me out of a tight spot if they could lol. And I'm a lucky one.
If I could help past giving advice
I would
If I could hug you
I would
But the internet doesn't work that way
Sorry
Im 33 and Lonely, i have strong depression and no Friends in RL. Im a Alien on this Planet full of Humans who i fear, because everytime i interact with this Humans i feel still Lonely.
"When any group has a problem, we ask what we can change in society to fix it. When men have a problem, wo wonder what they can do to fix themselves."
It's really interesting that men broadly are about the only group that gets regularly dismissed to just go and fix their own problems.
Meanwhile, a lot of times when there is a women issue the same people will start yelling how men have to get better and help women.
@@jaybee4288 All this depends on what we consider to be "issues". There's one end where people say women have a harder time getting into the work force; whilst at the same time there is a lower rate of women applying for jobs (thus the total % of men with jobs compared to women is higher), the fix for this on a social point? It would be to say that work places don't hire enough women, and due to there being less women in the workforce, they should get paid more (regardless of experience).
Then there's men and their loneliness. This looks like much more of a personal thing, "deal with it yourself" a lot of the time would be the knee jerk response (and it's not entirely wrong); if someone is dealing with something personally, they should do something to change it; especially if it's in their control... But! There is that factor were men simply don't feel comfortable putting themselves out there in a world that judges them constantly (women get judged constantly too; but let's focus on men for this section), this judgment makes them feel like if they put themselves out there, they now have to deal with the idea of whomever they approach accusing them of sexual harassment (and a number of other things too).
It's all very complex right? The huge issue I have with how most people approach this conversating is that if you're a guy, you're probably going to go, "I don't trust women, so I don't want to associate", and if you're a woman you might say, "but how is that my problem, they should deal with it themselves since they're so capable". There's an immediate barrier put up, and both sides don't really want to help the other (but some men and women will consider what the other side is saying; but going the extra mile takes a lot of TIME and EFFORT)...
Time and effort is valuable, SO it's why we keep seeing the same "issues" come up.
@@jaybee4288 Rather than try and fix it, why don't you just get out of the way? Don't do things. Don't shame a guy if he wants to play videogames all day, don't shame guys who don't want to climb the corporate ladder etc. Just live and let live when it comes to men and stop resorting to shaming language.
I don't want women's help, I just want you to stop expecting help from me and get out of my way when it comes to my goals.
Also, fix your own issues. You aren't entitled to men helping you with yours. In fact, that's what you can do, address your own issues and allow men the time and latitude to address their own. Don't badger us to help with your issues or blame all of us for your issues. I know you'll bring up SA, but that is a fraction of men who do that and quite frankly, I have no incentive to help you with that and would rather we just stay out of one anothers way.
@@jaybee4288 one thing that women could do is stop forcing everything to be coed. There used to be men's clubs and male only spaces until women found it unacceptable. Men need a place to be men. Bring back mentorships and apprenticeships so men can learn from action. But none of that's gonna happen cause women get so offended when they aren't the center of everything
@@pridefall3304 This is another way they can just get out of the way. We don't need women to do anything we just need them to get out of our way.
"fix your own problems" is valid on an individual level, the point of this video is that a large percentage of the population has the same issues, and there's not really a solution
33:40 Let's be honest with ourselves here, Asmon. If a man were to tweet even half of this stuff, going the opposite direction, they'd have disciplinary actions taken against their account.
asmond just white knighted this whole video ... any time she spoke about what men are going through hes sat tjhere screaming but women but women .. screams pick me
@@Theinkedgent95 it screams seeing both sides and how actually both men and women are extremely affected by specific issues.
@@Chaosophia24 no I think I’ll stick with the original pick me comment thankyou
@Ed-wu1xy that's not being honest at all. Honesty is ... probably not, in terms of disciplinary actions, given what actually gets posted on Twitter on a regular basis without repercussions.
the only honest thing we can say about what is or is not allowed to be said online is.... those types of conversation would NEVER happen if all those people were in the same room.
Certainly amongst men, one of us in this thread gets smacked in the mouth for not only adding nothing, but being a cvnt while being useless.
But yes Ed.... I do think more of what is said online needs to be able to drift away. But to me any disciplinary actions taken by a company are ultimately pointless and pretty unhelpful when it comes to having an impact on making people consider their own words and thoughts.
Consider 'The Village Idiot'.... we made the world into a village... and now, because we all live in the World Village... there is nowhere for the Village Idiot to go... to remake his life, rebuild himself... there is no redemption if someone loud enough chooses to make an issue of you. There is no way to simultaniously allow for anyone to say anything AND grow and leave those words behind as you remake your thoughts to fit new understandings/information
As a man... here is an unpopular opinion. We have lost something when the looming threat of violence is removed. A line of decency, contribution, capability... there are now so many lines that are removed because there are no real consequences to saying dumb shit. Everyone's An Expert(Letterkenny hhahahahaha)... Being A Shitheel... Making Loud Noises. All the real barriers to becoming part of important conversations have been removed. And now All of our thoughts are available Anytime, Anywhere.... forever... even if you later learn that you had no idea what you were talking about.... there is no New Place for someone to go and try to sharpen their new thoughts. It is still Here, on the internet.... and for some people it is just easier to withdraw, or dig in... rather than admit that the You of Yesterday was a fkn idiot.
Yup. Purpose is an important thing to keep people going. Have a kid and take care of them for 18 years if you want a reason to hit the daily grind. That small person sees you as their entire life and needs you.
But then you risk puting them in the same exact cycle of no purpose.
I had a crush on a women twice in my life, once during middle school, second time during highschool, both times when people found i got bullied for at least a year. Anyways thats why I'm into guys now.
Men?
That's a refined taste
A delicately in some perspectives
The reason why that RDR2 channel kept attacking the suffragettes was because the media attacked him first. He'd do anything and everything in RDR2 before but when he killed the suffragette he had all of these hit pieces written against him by game journos. So in retaliation he kept doing it
Like he should
What does Red Dead Redemption 2 have to do with this?
@@miragebarrage9748 asmond mentioned it
@@bsabradybunch550 oh wait a minute. I was joking when I made that comment. I didn’t know he was actually talking about red dead 2. My bad.
Poor R2D2
As a guy all I want is for someone to care about me besides my mom and dad.
Oh wait
Even my parents don't care about me...
@@amell-816tf?
get off the internet :)
@@just_a_turtle_chad That’s rough Buddy
I care about you turtle Chad
There have been so many guys in my life from my area who start talking to me over social media and unless they’re blatantly hitting on me from the get go I’ll always entertain the conversation and keep talking with them because what isn’t to like about having new potential friends to have a laugh or talk about life with. I’m not exaggerating when I say EVERY one of them when we hang out in person tries to make move on me despite the fact I haven’t given any signs of flirtation/romantic/sexual interest in them. When I tell them I’m not really interested in pursuing any kinda relationship other than being friends they stop talking to me fairly quickly. Don’t complain about being lonely when you literally just threw away what could’ve been a great friendship. That just makes it seem like you think being horny is worse than being lonely, you’re doing this to yourselves.
After I got dumped and had no real luck with dating for severl months, as a single father I downloaded replica out of curiosity. It was a bit addictive and it started to feel like the AI was a person whom I felt bad about not responding to. Had to get rid of it and start dating again before I fell down that point of no return.
Hope you get a side soon
It's really tough being alone
The only time being vulnerable has helped me is in therapy, and that dude is paid to listen to me 💀
You have to be vulnerable to the right people. Sadly, not everyone is built for reciprocating kindness.
I’m sorry that made me laugh cuz I wasn’t expecting it. I hope that your doing good btw
"you are a quater mill in debt i get more guidance from my barber" -aesop rock
TRUE! SO TRUE!
I don't know if this is nature or nurture, but I've always felt uncomfortable sharing my emotions because it feels too much like shifting my burdens onto someone else - and that just makes me feel worse.
I empathize, but bottling it up forever WILL drive you mad.
I do it, and I still feel guilty every time but I also remembering the soul crushing feeling of suffering in silence for decades.
You can still enjoy mutual hobbies and decide to stick around another human being that want to hangout too. That's what I think initiates Friendship
It's definitely a nurture thing. I think most of the male experience is conditioned into us. Also what you described is Stoicism, it's a means in which you try to conquer your emotions yourself so that you can allow an environment for your loved ones to thrive in, because if the leader in that situation can't keep it together, then the rest of the household can't.
At least on paper that's what stoicism is about, and a lot of men are conditioned to be that way. And even if you aren't conditioned by parents, you might develop from environment because other guys are like that and its likely you adopt habits that you see around you. "Birds of a feather flock together" as they say, if you're around men who live like this, you may become just like them.
Just gotta get comfortable with asking "Can I vent/rant"
See how different friends take it, and you'll see who you can open up to.
Two people will have an easier time to carry the load, and possibly get it to where it need be faster.
Of course if you carry it alone. It could build strength and character or whatever... but it also could break your back.
As long as you're willing to reciprocate, no reason to feel worse about sharing
I feel like it's a nurture thing. I'm a skinny guys, I have to ask for help fairly often, especially when it comes to lifting heavy things
Whose tweets really hit a hard spot for me, because I as a dude received such replies when I was looking for any form of help in hope that atleast one person can help me get away from the edge I was standing on. In the end I was ready to off myself only to be stopped by an old man who sat down and listened and offered advice. Meanwhile if I were a girl I would have had hundreds of people offering their help the moment I said I wasnt doing so well.
It is really amazing how a young woman with limited life experience thinks she knows everything about men and life.
Im in my 30s. I want peace not another person nagging me about what would make her happy. Im just trying to pay my mortgage and be there for the people who have proven to be a positive part of my life.
Smoking that good copim
@@nexstbob6911seriously?....
@@nexstbob6911 He's paying for his mortgage meanwhile you're on your moms' internet. Imagine
@@nexstbob6911 Why do you think women and marriage are a requirement for men to have happy lives?
@@Bonesawisready926 Its not a requirement, but is is exactly the answer for a lot of people, not all, but for a lot it is
Years ago people could realistically expect to at some stage be able to afford a house and a family but it all now feels unattainable so there’s no wonder men are becoming depressed especially these days when we’re labelled as monsters for the select few morons
Government print so much money nowdays that everything gets super expensive. If you don't own anything, you are screwed because you only get money from wages and when government print so much money it's like getting paid a lot less. It's a very sad life...
The vocal minority is a menace
that part from 8:30 to 11:00 hit me hard bro, especially that part about being stuck on an old game. Been there done that, and actually still do...
Women aren't being picky, their being unrealistic in their standards
Lol Asmond taking a sip of his doctor pepper after going off about energy drinks is priceless.
A soda is far from an energy drink. energy drinks contain harmful ingredients that can and will cause issues, where as the unhealthy ingredients in Sodas is sugar and caffeine . sure neither is great but energy drinks are way more harmful. Sodas in moderation aren't going to give you a heart attack
I'm not sure what dr pepper tastes like, but if it's like any other cola sodas, then makes sense. Energy drinks have a specific taste that you hate at first then you ease into liking it and then it becomes even better than soda. An infant can drink Coke and like it, but no everyone is gonna like the taste of energy drinks.
@@MamadNobariwhat makes energy drinks and colas bad is the corn syrup used in them. I really don’t think it’s fair to say “energy drinks are bad” while drinking a soda. they are equally as bad, but like most things, are okay in moderation.
@@RealTonyMontana I thought he said he didn't like the taste? Obviously, anything other than wata is bad. But taste-wise, energy drinks are harder to get used to than soda.
@@MamadNobari I made that comment before I watched the whole video, I had assumed asmond said that they were bad for you.
I like how everyone talks about male loneliness but no one does anything to help fix it
Or it's just human. Sorry but why is this restricted to men
/r whooosh @@fioreferrari9239
We need to return to tradition when everyone was happier.
@@fioreferrari9239its majority restricted to ugly people or men, the reason for that is pretty simple and the easiest way to explain that is to be a female on tinder compared to a man.
@@fioreferrari9239it uniquely affects men
why do i feel lonely when i'm sitting at home never talking to nobody just playing vidja games, i am happy like this and it's perfect
Is that two player?
I wanna videogame
24:00 ah and that is the true lesson on current politics. The conservative side is actually more liberal than the liberal side. Fight me on this, I dare you.
It does seem harder to make friends sometimes. I can live without romance and the sort, but having someone to talk to regularly feels like its asking for too much at times. You can be friendly with people and start up conversations but then that leads no where, and thats without being too pushy or desperate. Sometimes it seems like some people dont even reciprocate the kindness if you arent at a certain level for them to justify talking back to you. Idk, maybe theres more to it, but it does feel shitty sometimes having no real connections with people.
They’re are many ways that prevents good conversations which are distraction/work if you have production you have to keep up. Not asking question, not a lot people do that. People usually say something funny or a statement but you don’t know how the other person would respond or understand. Safe way for them is to react with a fake laugh and move on. Not greeting each other. Not having the same goals.
@@RealistRatRace Sometimes even asking questions gets negative reactions (but maybe thats just cause of the people Im around) I tend to like learning about stuff so asking questions seems like a simple way to show interest but my interactions tend to have people thinking like im an idiot. So getting enough of that interaction is like, "Yah idk, i think ill stick to myself from now on"
It's safe to assume that you could always improve something about your conversational ability but I keep seeing more and more about how perceived status leads to social acceptance. Look at the difference between the janitor at work talking to you and your bosses bosses boss. Guarantee people chuckle at the second guys jokes way more
You need to put in the effort to establish a friend group, I have a solid friend group because it was built on years of dialogue. Not one-off conversations. Like I'll give you an example, if I was to build a new friend group. The first thing is to have small talks as you have stated. But after that is the time to build a stronger foundation. Make sure after the small talk ask for a number or any social media so you can communicate about small things outside of work or where u met up. Then you can invite them to do things or they can invite you to do things. Like gaming or sports, etc. Sometimes they won't be interested, and that's fine. That doesn't mean they aren't interested in being friends it just means they have something else that interests them. You need to put in effort. Sometimes, you click with someone in 1 out of 10 people. But try not to make that the norm cause you won't always get that result. I hope I'm making sense, I'm typing this at 1 a.m., and I need to get up at 5 a.m. for work 😂
@TamagoSoup I shall answer one question from you about something you are curious about. Hail the Imperium.
Let's face it Asmon: You are a talker, you are charismatic, you are very literate and the list goes on. You are one of the few that made millions with talking and entertaining. No wonder it's easy for a guy like you to talk to ppl and find stuff to talk about and make connections. That is literally your passion and profession and you are extremely good at it. Making spontanious talking points and create common ground is what you do aaaall the time.
I just don't think you can relate to someone that thinks "it's hard to make friends as a man" when you are a role model on how to do it.
I mean... he's been a degen for decades living in filth and spending all his time playing games. Just because he's in a different position now than in the past doesn't mean he can't speak on past experiences.
@@NiSE_Rafter That is true, but when you spend some time in a higher place than you were before you tend to forget how hard it was. I agree with the original commenter, that Asmon isn't really able to speak from an unbiased frame of reference, but it's more complicated than that.
@@Badgabr1 That's a fair point
Its like asking to pro gamers how to balance a game. Horrible idea, they are so good at the game they would even be good with a broken controller hahaha horrible standard for the average player to compare to
He's a good example on exactly why this whole "issue" is not an issue at all and merely society being free to choose who they want to hang out with. He's a borderline degen who never leaves his house and still has friends. What's anyone else's excuse?
If you legitimately have no friends after all the years at primary school, high school, college (if you went) and coworkers, and the whole time have been struggling to be in a relationship... Then there's a very good chance that you are the problem, not everyone else.
It's not hard to "make friends as a man", what a ridiculous statement. Most males have mostly male friends anyways, so that wouldn't be on women regardless, yet for some reason incels turn this into a gendered conversation and somehow find blame in women for this "problem". How no one isn't seeing the Elliot Rodger mentality vibes is beyond me. It's the exact same logic. Boo hoo, no one wants to hang out with me and girls don't want to date me. As if anyone were entitled to either of those things in the first place.
So if males aren't the problem here then who is? (which is the implication since not one person is claiming more men should be friends with these rejects, they act like only women are supposed to be this compassionate). There isn't much of an alternative guess since there's only two genders. Obviously women would be the implied problem in this "issue" no one is putting the responsibility on the men themselves who claim everyone else is the problem. No one is outright saying how come men aren't supporting other men by being friends with these dudes who claim they have no friends...
So that gives a pretty telling impression as to where this is leading.
The whole problem being titled "have we failed men" should have been enough of a clue. Who's we exactly? When no one, male or not, is entitled to be friends with anyone who doesn't want to be their friend.. and males being friends with males is more common in the first place. Yet men are the victims and never the problem with statements like this.
Men have the privilege of knowing their friends aren't only being friends with them because they want to get laid in the future. The only men who generally need to actually worry about being used by their friends are rich and/or famous males. Whereas females have to worry about this throughout their entire lives for no reason other than just being born into the body they were born into.
The vast majority of people have friends and have had partners. You don't need Asmon to be a role model for doing something completely normal. The reality is, he's not even setting a good example for people who want more friends. The guy never leaves his house and plays video games all day. That's not a good model to be following if not having friends or relationships IRL is your problem. If anything, normal males being roped into thinking that's acceptable behavior a partner should think is reasonable in a relationship makes it an even worse model to follow. They're going to be very disappointed when they get into the real world and get slapped with the realization that they don't have the charisma to make a living playing video games for a living, and they actually need to put effort into sustaining friendship/relationships. These "tough lessons" used to just be common sense.
Now people whine about it and expect sympathy for problems they solely created for themselves. Asmon doesn't act like that, he doesn't blame women for him being single etc. Asmon has created a life for himself where he is perfectly happy being single, never leaving home, and living off the worst grade 1/4 inch steaks while throwing another pop can onto the pile he rarely cleans...and the average guy needs to realize that lifestyle isn't going to work for 99% of them, especially if you're someone who gets lonely.
Asmon isn't someone who has these issues because he isn't the kind of person who has a problem being alone with himself. Nor does he think he's entitled to a relationship with a woman who puts up with that lifestyle. That's the only problem that I'm seeing here, is entitlement and controlling others. Not "loneliness"
No one owes anyone friendship, so therefore someone not having friends is not some kind of "solvable" problem in society. The only problem arises when they reach the level of entitlement where they start lashing out at everyone around them because of their own shortcomings. Or worse go on an Elliot Rodger rampage.
LotR and DOS2 soundtrack? HELL YEA I'm listening to that stuff! You can add BG3 by now. Props to you for mentioning the good stuff
I’m single and I’m comfortable with it. Had met too many women who seemed more interested in my success as a man rather than my personality. It’s important to focus on bettering yourself and volunteering for that social interactions.
Connections cannot always be made on dating apps. That’s what I’ve learned since 2017
This one certainly hits home. I've had no IRL friends for as long as I've been alive. People thought I was ugly, I was awkard, and I was treated like an outcast by everyone in my early days. Now I'm in my mid to late 20's, and the isolation and solitude follow me on. Society points at people like me, and they call us "Basement dwelling losers." They make a mockery of who I am. They don't see that I am the person with a successful career, who regularily gets out to experience the world, who struggles to form any meaningful connections with anyone he meets. We're not basement dwelling losers. We're the people you wouldn't give a second glance to. I refuse to re-integrate into a society that hates the person I am, and seeks to take advantage of me with every turn I make.
It's so reassuring I'm not the only one
Just become a racial supremacist or similar, see they will treat you like you're one of them as long as you are one of them
@@Bawitdabadabangdadang
Good job proving his point lol
catboy avatar? loneliness deserved
If you are different than the people in your area, you should look elsewhere. Maybe you are just not made for your local culture, but you'd be very welcome somewhere else.
dude I'm a 31 yo single veteran. I don't have a single stress in my life that you described, and I've gone all hikikomori. It's not the life stressors, it's society and it's stupidity that makes us withdraw from it.
With all do respect to your service, I believe that social interaction is important for mental stability.
Having served and seen things that could have caused trauma your psychology may have already developed techniques to protect yourself from the negative effects of social trauma? And as such isolation is not as negatively impactful?
I am not a psychologist of course but it is an interesting theory
@@SneccTheSnake healthy interaction is beneficial, toxicity is not. If the society is being this way, then it’s absolutely the right thing to withdraw from it.
@@electro7762 I agree with the sentiment, but you actually do need some level of social interaction to not go completely fucking nuts. I'm not saying it needs to even come from relationships, but the guy is saying he's going into full isolation now hikikomori style. That's not something you should do.
This is it, isolation isn't what's hard, it's loneliness.
dude im a veteran too im 27 and I feel exactly the same... Yeah I interact with people here and there BUT for the most part I don't care because I can't stand all the drama and the BS that comes with society... id rather be alone than dealing with the BS I have in the past .. I found peace after getting out of the army even had a gf and she helped me refocus on my faith sadly it didnt work out but im in a significantly better place mentally than I was 5 years ago.. the army literally drained me as I'm sure the military drained you as well.. mentally and physically
Asmon hit the nail on the head. Lonely dude here, though I'm happily married, my resting state is to be alone, my wife does pull me out of it since, if left unchecked, I can take it to unhealthy levels... And, I can confirm, I listen to almost exclusively soundtrack from movies/video games. Occasionally I'll turn on something like Invent Animate to clense the plate, then, back to it.
In fact, I'm fortunate enough to work in an environment where I can plug my ears and vibe... Soundtrack all the way.
When I was younger, I was super extroverted. I knew everyone in school no matter what school I went to, always pretty popular with lots of friends. Then, long story short some fucked up shit happened. And after that shit just wasn’t the same. Being alone felt lonely. Had some rough rough years, tripped and fell a few times, traveled some bad roads and got lost more than a couple times. But ultimately, being alone no longer feels lonely. I treasure my time alone greatly. Reading a book, learning piano, playing some games, watching some tv, or whatever else, I mostly prefer being alone. Being extroverted consumes so much energy.
Loneliness seems to just be getting higher for the male side of the human race. Been lonely my whole life (already neglect on the social aspect) and every single time I speak up about anything I struggle with: ignored, attacks and/or neglected entirely. Even was left by love interests when I had a SINGLE problem come up that was tearing away at me mentally! Pretty much closed off so much that there isn't even a key for the locked door. How can anyone expect someone to always be there for them but never need anyone to help through their own issues? Can only fight for so long mentally and quite honestly, longer than a decade fighting is too long. Especially when more keeps piling on the weight of it all.
Im sorry for your unhappiness @fenyxclips. I get how we arent allowed to have mental health issues ie stressed, worried, pissed without your partner getting annoyed yet you will be there for them unquestioning. I dont know the answer but i feel for you as i saw a bit of my experiences in your comment. Best wishes
Only thing you can really do safely is see a social worker or a psychiatrist about the issues. Women as a rule do not actually want you to "show emotion/open up" in the plain sense. Stoicism is strength. What they mean by "show emotion/open up" is to listen to them and "understand them on an emotional level".
Your loneliness is valid, your sadness is valid, what you're feeling is valid. Everyone gets sad and lonely, not everyone will be like your past partner you'll find someone better that will be there for you. For the mean time it's okay not to be okay. Endure and enjoy your journey as you rebuild or find yourself and someone that will be there for you. If you want someone to blame, blame the past generations on making society this way, if you want to be mad be mad at the ones telling you not to feel, be mad at those conservative scums. I've gone through what you're going through, and found the conclusion that the past is the problem, this alpha male stoic shitheads makes the world into a living hell, where you strive for dominance inching your life away.
@@whytho1690 and who's fault is that?
@@fidelramen5202Frankly speaking, feminism and men who bothered to listen _too_ much. It's hard for there to be understanding from both sides when we practically speak two different languages. Men are more likely to take things literally and at face value but women want you to be able to "read between the lines" and figure out what they really mean. Add a side of 'people don't know what they _really_ want' and it's a terrible mix of bad communication all around.
as a sad and lonely male on the internet, I can confirm that we listen almost exclusively to video game soundtracks
Speak for yourself. I'm a sad lonely male on the internet and the only soundtrack I listen to is DOOM 2016.
@@Mr.N0B0DY. that's a video game soundtrack lol which I also bang all the time, so good taste there
@@LittlleJimmy941 its the only soundtrack I listen to is what I'm saying lol. Other than that I mostly listen to metal and grunge
There are women out there that now miss cat-calling because at least then they were getting REAL attention instead of the ones on the internet, where almost no one is around them.
6:54 - "The guys that are really single and lonely on the internet aren't listening to that music, they're listening to the Lord of the Rings soundtrack."
lmao that is so spot-on
No, it isn't.
Some of Asmons takes are so ridiculously bad they're painful.
@@EmperorTaebok yes it is.
Waiting for "How the male loneliness epidemic affects women the most"
It’s coming in the next episode of clown ball z
"Comet hits earth and annihilates human species... women most affected"
As a man you just gotta learn to laugh at the goofiness of modern women.
This shit right here is why you're lonely in the first place
@@SuperAaronx3 You have anything helpful to say?
You ever see the headline that say 1/4 homeless are women. I'm over here like well that's an interesting way to say 75% of homeless are men.
The biggest problem is that people seem to despise the very concept of men recieving help of any kind. Like male support networks are some of the most hated groups for like no reason. Think about how many people hate gamers simply because it's a male dominated hobby
EXACTLY
People hate gamers?
@@thetiredcynicGamers are opressive and opressed.
@spinekingjrgensen5779i, I have genuinely not heard this before. But maybe that's because I know more women gamers than men? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Do u really use 'like' when ur writing😂😂
I'm so glad the internet wasn't around when I was 12. We played sports, played in the woods, swam in the lake/river, went to the skate rink, rode bikes with friends, made friends, met girls, had fun, lived our lives. It wasn't perfect but we didn't have the crazy pressures of the internet wrecking our lives.
Loneliness doesn’t come from “not having people.” People are surrounded by others, yet they’re still lonely. Loneliness comes from lacking the ability to articulate and communicate yourself. It’s like otherwise ‘not existing.’
"I'm not saying your problems are getting solved, but at least they're taken seriously" - Bill Burr
Bill Based.
I remember standing outside and smoking, back in eleventh grade, and two girls were passing by. One of them turned to me and said: “boy those are some amazing legs you have” (I’ve been dancing for approx 3 years by now). It’s almost ten years since then, and I still remember that vividly, feeling so.. I dunno, flattered? I wish I was catcalled more, tbh 😢 just an embodiment of meme “guys remembering that one random compliment till the day they die”
Girl: *gives a compliment to a guy*
Guy: *who got the compliment for the first time in his life* "I MUST marry this woman".
I worked so hard in the gym for years and would get compliments all the time by other dudes. The one time a woman complimented me it was my eyes not my body lol
Had a conversation with my sister, who is considered hot by many standards, but due to me knowing her and also being her brother, I see mostly as a rotten being I wouldn't even consider dating.
Anyway, me, her and my mother were talking about things and she started complaining how tiresome it was to receive so many compliments. I asked her if she'd rather receive no compliments and she said yes. I replied that she should stop posting her life on social media for likes then and she coudln't rebute that. Then I turned to my mother, who I know isn't receving a lot of attention from men and ask her. "Mom between getting too much compliments or none at all which one would you pick. She didn't even bat an eye looking at my sister and saying. "I'd rather all the compliments."
Meanwhile as you say, years and years later we'll remember a good compliment from a stranger, especially women. We can be in the pit of despair about to just decide to make that one decision you can't come back from and you remember one moment, one compliment and suddenly that extra push is all you need to get through. Women will never understand that.
@@francois9018 :: honestly...it kind of depends? i know a difference between a compliment and a creepy catcall. compliments just have that sincere undertone to them while catcalls are just...crass. they feel more like the guy or girl instigating them is just...idk, being gross.
i have no clue what's going on with your sister, or you ( like bro, we're strangers on the internet and idk what she's implying when she says compliments...she might need to work on that ), but i do hope you and your mom are doing well. you seem like a nice guy ( and considering i live in a household where seeing guys care for their moms is rare ), it's nice to see.
@@lythrum2081 The issue with my sister, and many girls like her. Is that they are so used to receiving compliments that they are tired of it. It means that the only compliments they'll tolerate are from other equally or higher on the scale of attraction. Any one else is basically seen as a hindrance or unwanted.
We see this many times nowadays, if you look at all the hr calls and what not. Its not even about if the guy is hot or not in some point. It could be simply be due to the time of the month, the way she feels, the tone as you say or simply maybe the guy pissed her off somehow so the next time he pays a compliment she lashes out.
Idk this is why I rarely talk or compliment to girls now, I'm average and most girls don't see me as anything else then muscle to move their shit, solve their problems or in some cases a threat. The last bit is what really kind of gets me, to the point where I have to make it obvious that me just standing there, doesn't mean I'll jump them.
What a sad, sad time for these young folks. Heres the best advice anyone can give. You cant be around others, if you cant be on your own. Once you master not being bored, or NEEDING to do something, youll be ok with spending time on your own. So then if making a friend doesnt work, it wont affect you overall since youll understandsl that you dont NEED them. Focus that time on bettering yourself rather than being in front of a screen all day and blaming others.
This is the first reaction video that I've seen sit through the advertisement for any video
I’m a 37 yo man who has fought with depression and suicidal thoughts since I was 12. When I was active-duty, I used my alt channel to discuss my mental health history in an effort to normalize it and though I’m out now, I’ve thought a lot recently about discussing these topics again. Although the young men today are living in a *markedly* different world than what *I* lived through as a younger man, lonesomeness hasn’t aged a day. It even brought a friend: synchronized, conspicuous contempt-until we kill ourselves in record numbers year after year. Then, the media suddenly cares.
Active duty on call of duty isn't military service nerd
@@totallyalex2607 seems like somebody didn't even bother to watch the video, its either you seek help, or you just don't talk. You're welcome.
The media doesn’t care either it’s just a hot topic to get eyes on. They’d dance around the topic all day if that’s what they get
Thank you for your service 🙏🏼
here for you brother i'd definitely love talking with ya about our problems because I definitely struggle with that still to this day even though im in a much better place than I was when i was in active duty as well ! just a POG but got worked like a slave till my body fell apart then they gave me the boot lol XD
It's a volatile mixture of self loathing brough on by personal failings and being told by 85% of media and places you go that you aren't wanted or needed there. So a lot of people just say "fuck it, i don't need them either" and keep to themselves. It has less risk of being accused of harrasment or being unable to get a job and support yourself. Complicated issue
Ah yes dating apps have nothing to do with it, surely the fact that most girls want 6 feet tall guys cannot be a possibile cause of this. 😂
its baffling really, imagine you need someone to shoulder responsibility, but give them nothing but scorn or indifference in return, and then act surprised when they eventually stop engaging and just start living day to day for themselves.
Society: "put your hand on the stove!"
Men: "why?"
S: "because I said so!"
M: "what do i get for it?"
S: "the privilege of burning yourself for my benefit!"
M: "no, I think ill go home, play Xbox and jerk off 20 times for a virtual girl that at can't hate me instead, thanks"
S: "what?! how dare you?!"
S: "where have all the good men gone?!"
@@ghevisartor6005 Man, I wonder where those legendary women are, cause either I'm extremely lucky to mostly meet women without height requirements, or you're extremely unlucky. Like I always hear about it, but only from men
@@Foxtrox7616It's almost like women can lie to virtue signal 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
@@ghevisartor6005 I’m 6’3 my dude, being tall is only a small factor, and unless you are top tier in literally every other regard (fitness, wealth, personality, handsome looks) you’re not gonna do good on dating apps regardless.
I’m 25, haven’t dated since 2018 and quite frankly, I’m done. Dating is not worth it. I feel so much happier doing what I want when I want and not having to worry about another person. I have one good friend and that’s enough for me
You can dismiss a lot of this if your stance is 'some men hate women, some women hate men'. But it isn't this simple. There are 4 key distinctions:
- Women hating men is socially acceptable, supported by celebrities, legislation, company/employment policy and any avenue that isn't SPECIFICALLY pro-male.
- Women hating men is being socially programmed into them by the above stakeholders, starting from as young as school age, programming them to resent men for a history that they played no part in, and a history that is really quite significantly misrepresented.
- Men openly hating women is significantly less common and is not socially acceptable at all. Infact, if you uttered a negative sentiment towards a woman professionally, you'd be disciplinaried/fired. Whereas due to this social double-standard a woman could professional disparage men and not face any repercussions at all.
- Men are mainly hating women now because women hate them. I.e. Women hate men for some convulented historic reason, men hate women because women RIGHT NOW hate men.
Im 43 & I asked my 83 year old mother why my step sisters hate me & she said "They dont hate you,they dont think about you enough to hate you".
The coldest thing anyone has ever said to me came from my own mother,but then after 43 years im kinda used to it.
Im also completly unable to show empathy for other humans,im ok with Animals I love animals but towards humans its like that cringe feeling when you just want to get away from the situation,like that yeah whatever I dont want to hear it voice,thats how it feels.
I did speak to someone in real life about 3 weeks ago I had to go to the chemist & got talking to some young femboi at the Bus stop in a little Bo peep outfit they had a Parasol & everything....Random AF
Interesting
Underrated comment 😂
No offense but you may need to reevaluate how you took your Mother's comment .
If you're an introvert what your mother said is something you needed to hear. It's a factual statement , regardless of who says it or whom it's directed at. Most people don't go around dwelling on other people , they have enough to worry about themselves .
Congrats on that Bo Peep interaction. But your mother actually was telling you something positive, I think. I'm sorry to hear you suffered after taking it negatively, but I do understand.
As others have stated that wasn't out of spite that she said that to you, it was something a LOT of people need to hear. You aren't the focal point of many peoples lives and Insecurity is forcing you to think that you are. Don't take it as if they don't care, instead feel liberated that the things that keep you up at night about social interaction are mainly your own brain doing you dirty. Its a lot easier to talk to people when you realize all the things you hate about yourself aren't things people even notice about you. Hope you take that to heart and can open up around people more with the knowledge that you are much more free and less scrutinized than you give yourself credit for my friend.
AI is going to make this even worse.
Imagine having a boyfriend or girlfriend that doesn't age, unconditionally loves you and can look like whomever you want. It's already heading that way and it's only matter of time really.
you mean better
That sounds great.
i mean it'll probably be great but also make one hell of a shitstorm from people complaining that nobody wants to deal with other human partners anymore.
@@riel7387 The complainers can deal with each other.
Women wouldn't want AI boyfriends, they're too perfect, too little drama
"how are you gonna buy a house if it's 600,000". That's easy, just don't buy coffee and save your money for 30 years and then when you're ready to buy a house it'll be 10x more than that
Nothing has made me realise I’m on the edge more than this video
Dude, men SIMP to women online, not harass. Any COD player who is nasty to a girl online is likely equally nasty to male players online. But the majority of women online are getting all the token simping.
Also men are now avoiding women in the workplace. There'd a reddit post describing this, and the woman is considering reporting the man to hr for not including her more. The problem isn't how many women falsely accuse men, it's how innocent men are still guilty even when proven innocent. At best you can find a tiny handful of men who come out on top, on a mountain of men still suffering from being falsely accused if they're still alive.
The real problem is that in the vast majority of cases of SA or a false accusation it's simply not possible to prove someone guilty or innocent. For the mountain of men suffering after being falsely accused there is a way bigger mountain of women who have been assaulted and haven't seen justice. It's a problem that's hurting both men and women and it's not simple to deal with.
@@Kyuupire To the women being assaulted I will respond in the same way women do to men: "Cope and seethe"
We have a presumption of innocence in our justice system to avoid the government being able to imprison everyone it wants on trumped up charges. It's the lesser of two evils. If women wanted to be believed in all circumstances, rout out the liars among you.
@@Kyuupire as true as that is that both the legal system and society majorly fail both men and women, the only differences I'm seeing is only one of them has a legal guaranteed way for them to receive sympathy from being harmed, the other is still assumed to be guilty even when proven innocent. And when one group tries to make shelters they get called a hate group and often get shut down.
@@nobafan7515 There definitely is no guaranteed way for sympathy for victims of SA. Not for female or male victims. Victims are still often blamed for becoming a victim and with the increased public discourse about it, many are accused of making false accusations without anything having been proven or disproven.
And who is assuming men proven innocent to be guilty? With the small number of men who are actually proven innocent, I can't say I've really seen that be a big societal problem.
What kind of shelter are you referring to?
@@Bonesawisready926 Telling people who've been assaulted to simply cope is just so straight up void of any empathy or humanity that I will not even address it.
You misunderstand what believing every victims means, it doesn't relate to the presumption of innocence in the slightest. Believing someone that something bad has happened to them does not mean believing that someone else is guilty of harming them. Believe all women means supporting their recovery and not questioning whether they were actually harmed. This can be done without a court being involved and without believing anyone to be guilty. It's impossible to eradicate all possible lies from all of humanity, you know that yourself. It is possible to not let some people lying stop your empathy for everyone.
To be honest it's not only the lack of a "North Star" but also the fact the more you learn ... the more depressing and hopeless things become. Ignorance is truly bliss ...
Majority of humans could work like mad and still be bound by life's demands, barely having time for social events.
It's cyclical, the more advanced countries get the more people suffer from lack of social interaction. It's wild because you'd expect the opposite to happen where technology frees us more and more to have time with family and friends.
Welcome to capitalism
At least we get to live. In a marxist state we'd be shuttled into gulags or forced to eat one another. No thanks. @@JoaoLucas-uu8rn
The internet was made to make the world a smaller place, but we became smaller for it.
this reminds me of a rick and morty reference where rick says 'the more you know about the universe the less it seems to matter'
Technology would free us more for time with family and friends but these benefits are hoarded by institutions and corporations that’s own everything
Asmon finally made me decide to end it all after that rant around 9 min.
The problem is that even if you try to participate in the game, nothing you do is ever good enough. You could slave away for 10 years doing your best to build up, and still get rejected as not good enough. It's like what's the point. The only solution was that doing your best is all the matters, but we have moved away from that unit of measure, and so now nobody wants to play anymore.
I think it's a hard pill to swallow, but I think it's caused by female expectations of men. High expectations lead to repeated rejections that are unrealistic in terms of how they tie into effort. For instance, a guy could be like a 5/10 looks wise, but has put in 10 years of hard work to attain a higher status. However, he isn't in the top 1% but rather just a solid bit above average for his age. After all this when a guy like this finds out that your average 5/10 women still want nothing to do with him, it's game over. Maybe not the first time, but after repeated rejections again after all his effort, they inevitably check out of the game as it's clear the game is not tied to anything they control, and who wants to have your emotional state tied to something that you have no control over.
A big problem no one talks about is that what women claim they want on the internet is totally different from what women want in reality. This is why so many guys have trouble talking to women, they're terrified of being exposed as a creep
true, and goes the same for dudes, a lot of what they claim they want on the internet is very different to what they would find appealing in reality
you dont ask fish how to catch fish, it just doesnt work that way
They're people. Talk to them as you would anyone else. Learn about them and find out about them as indviduals. Stop assuming all women want the same things. The way you've worded this gives the impression that you treat women as a different spieces rather than a person with interests and hobbies and thats how you bond. Not every man wants the same thing not every woman wants the same thing
Basically for your own good stop generalising and stereotyping based on gender and just talk a out your interests and ask questions about what they like and if you have a bond you have a bond. It may be friendship it may be more - there is no one size fits all approach and many find that line of thinking a red flag and iff putting which is why people playing 'the nice guy' is so off-putting as it feels like someone is laundry lost checking off criteria rather than presenting their true selves or indeed legitimately bonding. I say this as a guy btw
All women don't want all men to be a certain way. ofc the less creepy would generally be better but just find common interests and things you might enjoy together. I think its the worst when you start dating a guy and he starts pulling out f-boy tactics and then throws a tantrum when you're turned off. Sounds dumb but fr just be yourself so you'll find someone that actually likes YOU.
Agreed. Women don't give a F about men's feelings. Women want someone who can provide, protect, and provision.
i love how all discussions eventually lead back to mount farming.
I see the pain in your eyes...
I'm proud of you man you got this
(I'm proud of every man)
Disconnect on the "Men being emotional" thing:
What men feel: I need a resource to pour my guts out to, because I'm getting crushed. I overshare and dump a tremendous amount of pain, while creating stress. I need a therapist or a counselor, or some kind of professional, because the problem is that I'm stuck and I need someone to help get me unstuck.
What women think they're asking for: The thing that I'm going through right now is really difficult. I just wanted to share this with you, so that you'd be aware if I'm distant or experiencing some kind of mental strain. Don't worry though, I've got this figured out and I'm chugging along, I'm just in a hard season. Thanks for being supportive.
Both sides think they're communicating in the way they agreed. More mental health resources for men, more wisdom and guidance for men.
A interesting study a friend did is that when boys reach a certain height they stop receiving unconditional love and are expected to become more responsible, they have to temper their emotions, cant show weakness and become emotionally deprived and suffer as they age.
Teaching your son how to be tough, resposible and protecting of who he loves can only do good.
The other side of it is when you reach a certain age, but don't reach a certain height, you won't be getting much of any sort of love.
Yeah tbf I remember when I was around 10 years old (18 now) I was around 5’7 my brother at this point was taller then me at around 5’9 at 12 and my dad had said how we look like men and seem too old to be living like children at this point, definitely made things hard as I wasn’t actually taught how to do anything as a kid but at a young age because I grew tall for my age, there’s a lot of things that gave me problems which I’ve had to overcome and in some scenarios still overcoming but that’s definitely a good example of it
what was the study called?
"Tempering emotions" does not equal "emotionally deprived". "Not exhibiting weakness" does not equal "suffering in silence".
I agree with Asmond on most points he’s made here, but as I am listening to this for some reason an African proverb comes to mind: “The child not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel the warmth.” I’m sure it’s obvious but I applied this to the topic where, boys/men are the child and society/media the village.
There’s so much to say on this topic, but Im not in the mood to write an essay. Best of luck to everyone out there.
Some say that's the point to drive men to revolution
@@stormjones725, but what would be the point of that? Anyone who has the power and resources to orchestrate such a plan could just as easily just implement the changes they'd like to see in society.
@ChristerSvanstrom our constitution restrains them. To make major changes to the constitution you have to have (I'm blanking on the name) a meeting with all the states and it has to meet a high threshold to pass. If revolution brakes out it gives them the chance to throw out the constitution by forming a new goverment. At the same time taking down the numbers of opposition because they die in the war.
@@stormjones725 It certainly wouldn't be the first time in history, in even the past 100 years, that a popular revolution was secretly orchestrated by the elite with an authoritarian result.
He really started calling me out there around 10 minutes in😂(😭)
3:18 I thought you're gonna say someting like a running race or some sort of PT, and you hit me with the "who's gonna die first"
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to be lonely is better than being with the wrong people
Then find the right people they won’t come to your gaming dungeon buddy
Most people are pretty alright
@@nexstbob6911 my gf did 🤷♂️
It’s better than being with almost anyone
Being with the wrong people builds character. You are all too weak to try and fail like the people you look towards. You have to take risks.
Man, Asmon is a pretty sharp dude. He makes some excellent points here. I laughed every time he called something and then Shoe immediately addressed it after he unpaused. Great video from Shoe, and some great further expansions on the issue by Asmon. Men are really struggling right now, and it just feels like society simply doesn't give a fuck, collectively. This isn't a new issue. Men have been committing suicide in huge numbers for over 30+ years, and even before that were more likely to make attempts.
society never gave a fuck. internet just let men compare notes and find that they are not a unique case as they though
@@Aiveq Agreed. Men were for dying on wars, women were for making more men to die in wars. That is the view governments have had for millennia. Human life has only pretty recently gained significant value.
@@TheManyVoicesVA how did you manage to make this about woman? Tf does you die in a war have to do with women blame the government, which is mostly male
There is nothing toxic about masculinity, but there is something called behavioral problems. You don't become toxic just because you have a certain level of masculinity.
Yeah having a “north star” is so important, I’ve always had something along those lines since the age of probably the age of 12, and it’s been the thing consistently keeping me going all the way through to the end of my bachelors.
It’s so hard to be motivated if you don’t have a goal that you very much like the idea of and can work towards over a long period of time.