The Only Camera Buying Guide You Need (Photography)
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
00:22 - "Gear Doesn't Matter"
01:08 - Best Camera Brand?
03:36 - Think Long Term
02:28 - Full Frame?
03:06 - Law Of Diminishing Return
04:38 - Budgeting
05:37 - Not Just The Camera
06:30 - Smartphone
08:20 - Fixed Lens Camera
10:42 - Interchangeable Lens Camera
11:36 - Entry Level
12:33 - Mid Level
14:15 - Premium
15:31 - Ultra Premium
17:58 - Me Trying To Row - Věda a technologie
Hi Roman, This is by far one of the best camera buying guides I've seen yet. This can be like falling down a huge rabbit hole. I really enjoyed your cost/value break down and the line up of various brands at difference price bracketts. All camera buyers are likely to go down this road at some point and I think you've done a fantastic job of helping anyone about to take the plunge. I'm new to your channel, thanks to James Popsys, and plan to visit often. Great job.
Roman, I don't know how to thank you enough. A while back I needed advice on making a camera purchase. You and another subscriber gave me some good advice indeed. Well, I finally pulled the trigger and bought a T-X20 from eBay (a seller in Japan) and a XF 18-55 lens from MPB. I agonized long and hard to come to this decision but with your input i did it. Now waiting for arrival so I can take advantage of more of your advice. Great channel and thanks much. Stay safe.
All great options! I am slowly migrating to Sony from Fuji. Only because I am shooting video way more than photos these days. The A7iv is an absolute beast of a camera - hands down the best I have ever used. I’m still learning how to extract as much out of it as I can, but right out of the box, even with the cheap kit lens, it’s damn impressive. For photography, I still often shoot with my 100V - that thing is insane. Thx for doing this video.
Thanks for the video super helpful. I recently sold my XT1 with a XF 23 mm which was my way in for around £500 when wanted to migrate from phone but small budget - The opportunity to learn with it far outweighed hardware limitations. Original logic was to keep the lens and upgrade the body when I could afford. I ended up deciding I probably want something fixed lens pocketable for everyday moments and sold both while I could get all my money back. I am now indecisive in the way that you describe in terms of high cost of GR’s etc vs getting a more up-to-date Fuji body and maintaining future versatility. Appreciate the food for thought!
I'm using the Panasonic Lumix S5, a year ago with 400,- cash back it was 1300,-. I love it! The 24mp full-frame gives very good lowlight performance, weather proof, top video quality and impressive IBIS. The only downside is the L-mount lens availability. Because of that I use some vintage lenses, very affordable and if you do your search well you'll get very good results.
Thank you Roman. These are great practical tips. Makes a lot of sense.
A good talk Roman, makes a lot of sense and I hope any beginners watching pay heed to your advice.
Great video - as always - Roman! I am relatively now om photography. In the pandemic I gave myself a Nikon Z5. Got a small kit lense with it and also bought a prime Z 50mm/1.8S. I think the Z5 belong in the entry level catagory (?) The Z 50 mm 1.8S lense is a prime lense. The cost about 1600 Euros. They work so good together! One of the best bargains (gear for cash) you can get, I think.
However, I frequently borrow my wifes Fujifilm X-E3 with the 23 mm f2 lense, as a daily camera. It is so small and light with a wrist band and really fun to use. She bought the camera and the lense after the release of the X-E4 for about 1000 Euros 🙂
Hi Roman, really enjoyed this one. I am always watching your videos from a point of someone who makes money from photography and videography and I like that your videos speak to both worlds - professionals as well as enthusiasts. well done and keep it up. PS: loved the chart haha
As others said, the Panasonic micro 4/3 system is very good and it doesn't cost an eye and a leg. My 20MP G9 does everything I need it to do for street and landscape photography, includuing night street photography with fast prime lenses. Also, image stabilization is awesome. I can see me using this system for years and years without the need for an upgrade.
Absolutely correct! I can produce museum-quality prints from my G9 (and even from earlier cameras, including the FZ1000 and even some pocket point-and-shoots--it's not the gear).
I bought an X-T10 about a month ago and I love it! I know it's a bit old, but it's still taking wonderful photos. I can already start building my lens collection and upgrade to X-T3 or something similar in the future
Panasonic had a lot of the good features early on and they are still good cameras use and learn with. A used g85, g95 or g9 with a bunch of MFT lenses can cover a huge range of use cases, and still be affordable.
I just hate the autofocus on Panasonic. It’s always put me off.
@@stuarttracey2009 I see it mostly depends on the lenses. Newer lenses are much faster and accurate than older ones, which are sometimes a bit frustrating, but on the other hand you can buy them used for very reasonable amounts of money. My 42.5mm f/1.7 prime is *very* slow at focusing, and sometimes it just doesn't lock the focus at all LOL, but I still LOVE this lens for street photography.
I still love Panasonic, I shoot a lot with Nikon now, but love the features of Panasonic more than my Nikon gear.
I went from phone to Panasonic bridge cameras and now have a g95 and have always loved the ease of use of Panasonic Lumix. The gx85 is my street camera and between the two of them I have lots of fun. Autofocus is a non issue for me.
I think this is a great recommendation for someone starting out. GX85 + 2 kits lenses under $600 at B and H in USA and even cheaper used. The Panasonic 25 mm 1.7 also looks like a great deal used. I am seriously thinking of getting a used GX85 + the 25 mm. I love small kit and just shooting with one prime.
Thank you so much for this video and all of your informative videos! I’m just getting into photography seriously and made the decision to buy the Fujifilm XT4. I’ve taken thousands of pictures with my iPhone, and I always wish that I could capture the moment with higher quality images. I’ve played around with an old hand-me-down Nikon DSLR, but I never have liked using it! I think that I’ll want to take more photos and become a better photographer with the XT4. I’ve watched your videos on lenses and gear, and I hope I’ll have a good kit!
Several thoughts on this issue:
- No need to buy the latest, fanciest gear. Save money by purchasing used gears. Four or five years old are still fine. Just make sure you buy from reputable sellers
- If you don't shoot with film, probably skip full frame and pick smaller system like APSC or M43. Smaller image sensor means smaller lens, which means less weight and carrying more lens (e.g travelling) is less burdensome.
- If you don't have something specific in mind, that's a sign you don't need to get a new lens. These days, most kit lens are good.
- Don't constantly switch gears. Better spend the money on photography education, like buying good photography books or attending workshops.
- Don't be easily tempted by "big megapixel". Unless you are going to regularely make huge, fine art prints like 1m x 2m, then a 16 or 24 MP camera is more than enough.
I share a similar philosophy. I am fairly experienced photographer and needed to upgrade my Pentax last year (the camera I had had some issues). I got a new Pentax APS-C that came out in 2017. It was under $600 and does everything I need. You can get a Panasonic Lumix GX85 + 2 kit lenses for less than $600 and even less used. And yes lenses on full frames get really heavy. And yes books + workshops do more than any new gear for improving photography.
Enjoyable and succinct video about a topic that causes much anxiety for some. Your advice about this topic is spot on. Find something good enough for what YOU want to do and that will allow you to grow into that area. Like you, I also chose the XT-3 because for the price it gave the most and met my current and future needs for quite a while. It's still a very good camera by any measure. It's cost also wasn't so crazy(I bought it barely used.) that I couldn't afford to consider more lenses. Again, nicely done video Roman. Have a great week.
Thank you man! You too!
A comprehensive set of practical, commonsensical tips, well-explained, for novice camera buyers -and others.
Really great guide. I really subscribe to the diminishing returns philosophy when buying cameras. I've been using Pentax digital cameras for 14 years and last year purchased a new K70 for less than $600, it's less than 1/3 the price of their flagship APS-C camera and has a similar sensor. I did a bit of research on the Panasonic Lumix GX85 (in USA) and that looks like an incredible value for someone starting out in interchangeable lens photography. Body + 2 kit lenses for under $600 at B and H. I'd probably go with Fuji if I was starting over and buying into a whole system.
Excellent video full of common sense. Your simple common sense approach is the reason I subscribed. Thank you
Thanks Mike!
As you said: You can‘t go wrong with any system, but I would still recommend a Fuji X-T2 or X-T3 with the kit lens and maybe an F2 prime. There is just no better and easier way to learn the exposure triangle than using the physical dials on those cameras + the price is actually ridiculous considering what you get for it. I started photography on the X-T3 and nowI use it (+ additional Fuji cameras) for my professional work and it has paid itself off so quickly.
Agreed!
Good point about sticking with one system for a long period of time. Many photographers switch systems before they’ve fully mastered the one they have. And the camera companies leapfrog each other. Wait long enough and a feature you covet will show up in your brand.
I would have needed this video 1 year ago. So useful! One topic to add is definitivly the question if you want/have the time to edit your photos. If you don't like editing...go Fuji.
yeah very valid point Erik
Can you elaborate on that? How come unedited fuji photos are superior to other brands?
@@MagicJF Fuji is well known for superior colours. Of course it is subjective but besides the possibility to add film recipes to your camera many fuji-users will confirm this. I personally switched from sony full frame to fuji.
Very happy with my X-T3,18-55, occasional use of my 70-300, 35 f2 & the new but rarely used (at this time) 23 1.4. Have a rarely used X-E4 which was a camera for travel plans which have changed 3 times. Probably sell it and a lens. Stay wit X-T3 & 3 lens max. Great photos of Porto in the beginning of the video, Thanks for the memories.
Sounds good! cheers!
Excellent content, Roman.
All solid advice here. I definitely agree that you don't need full frame to make good photos.... but it does make it a lot easier (especially in low light) and it can be the cheapest way to get good performance depending on what you need. I think most people buy the wrong camera for the first camera, or couple of cameras.... but it's enough to get them hooked. Thats what happened to me. Don't overthink it... photography is all a big compromise most people don't know how they shoot to know what is important to them. My tip.... buy used. I have shot Canon, Olympus, Sony, and Nikon... brand really does not matter. Find something that feels nice / works for you... and go for it. Maybe try a friends camera first? Maybe choose the same system as a friend so you can borrow / try out other gear.
I've got Lumix GX9 - Brilliant little camera and light but sturdy
I'm also surprised that you didn't mention Nikon. I've also the D7200 in my openion one of the best APSC cameras ever made
Both cameras mentioned have a great selection of lenses, not so much Nikon APSC mirrorless now sadly.
Roman
I think you may have overlooked one category. That’s, small compact camera with big zoom. I have a Panasonic TZ95 with features as long as your arm and even at 30 times optical zoom (129 mm per the display but about 720mm equivalent for 35mm sensor), because of the 5 way image stabilisation one can still obtain great images hand held. Need to use zoom to get blur but can get really good blur this way. Can use it in full manual mode including not only aperture, shutter and ISO but also white balance. It has a decent viewfinder and flip screen and enables panoramas straight out of the camera and RAW and in camera RAW processing. Also HDR. All for under £400. If you are keen on photography but not going to do large prints (never tried above A4) and want all the features without the hassle of weight and cost an advanced compact such as this may be a great option. I keep looking for a reason to upgrade and honestly I cannot find one. Two drawbacks. No mic input for video. Not brilliant in very low light. However, my phone with its f1.7 fixed lens is great in low light so that’s covered. I have a 192 page instruction book on the TZ90, it’s predecessor, by my side all the time because of the almost limitless functionality of this camera, always learning something new. I love this camera. By the way to my eyes it produces very satisfactory images.
I used Fujifilm for years and I switched back to Nikon, it was the best decision I ever made. I'm very happy with their Z mount system. But I do like the retro looks of the Fuji cameras though.
I did the opposite and best decision also 😂. I still own my z6 though. But on the fence of selling all my Nikon and ff gear
super video and loads of info,, a question if I may,, do you not bother using a lens hood ?
A small but capable camera is what I'd get doing it all over again. A Fuji X100,Ricoh GR or Sony RX100 old or new iteration.
As for interchangeable lenses I am perfectly happy with Sony A7 & Voigtlander primes.
this was a really good video! I'm a total beginner but everyhting you said felt very true, especially the bit about the main brands all being good options and also that a good camera doesn't make a good photographer. I also thinbk it's great that you actually named some models for beginners, mid and pros. I have an "old" Canon EOS 1100D, do you think that camera is too bad/old to use? As I said, I am a beginner but I would love to imrpove my photography. do you think it would be worth it for me to get a newer one or just use the one I have? thank you again for the video!
I just went with the X-T30 II and the XF 18-55 kit lens with money left over to buy a 23mm prime lens, sd card and Kazza leather half-case, strap and case combo. I really wanted to just get an X-T5 but decided to go ahead and buy into the system and get the compact, high value X-T30 II because I really want a carry everywhere camera as I already have a Canon dslr with a variety of lenses and I can buy a used X-T5 when the price comes down. Another plus is I can buy a Fringer EF to XF mount adapter and use all of my Canon lenses with the Fujis.
Would love a video talking about how you use a second body and what to consider with that (I know you use two X-T4’s but have you mixed and matched in the past, etc). Also one thing you didn’t mention is for doing professional photography gigs there is often a requirement for full frame or two bodies, which makes things a bit tricky (I’ve been able to explain I have an X-T4 which is about the highest end APS-C but it would be much simpler has I just bought a Sony a7, that said I love Fuji and don’t feel it’s worth it to switch)
Thank you for this video !
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Excellent discussion :)
I am already invested in the Fuji system with the Fuji XS10 +18-55 kit, 50mm F2 and the viltrox 85mm 1.8. I want to upgrade but I am very confused, whether to take the full frame route( A7iv) which will have me sell everything and buy into an entirely new system or get the XH2 which will be an upgrade sure but not full frame. Please help me out. I shoot mostly photos(Portraits, Street and Landscape )and sometimes videos, good IBIS is important for me. How much of a difference does a full frame actually make?
When picking a camera the first thing to consider is the range of lenses. What sort of photography do you do or aspire to do?
After that does the system that has the lenses you like have cameras that that fit your needs.
Then how does the camera and system fit in hand. Do the controls fall easily to hand. Does the image quality etc match your needs.
After that a decision is near.
Yeah very good point. I didn't mention it here as all decent brands have lenses that cover everything these days. Maybe 10 years ago it was the case, but for sure not to day
I needed this guide when I was first starting out. If you’re new, listen to this video very carefully. ANYTHING from the last 4-5 years is a great starting point. Photography doesn’t have to be an astronomically expensive hobby, and most of us don’t need the features that you get with the brand new high end bodies that are constantly being pushed on us by other CZcamsrs and so on.
The problem isn't the camera but the lenses. Sure, you can get an "old" camera but glass is expensive
@@luismoracmyk it certainly can be, and it’s probably a better investment, but I own a $200 sigma lens for my Sony rig that is worlds sharper than my $800 standard zoom, so it really depends. Most of us aren’t shooting Leica so there’s plenty of gear to be had at a reasonable price once you branch out from OEM lenses.
@@luismoracmyk There is plenty of great value out there if you do the research. I recently got a used 35 mm f2 for my Pentax for around $170, it's really nice. I purchased a used Tamron 17-50 f2.8 for my son for $160 (which has better image quality than my $1,000 Pentax of the same specs). A Panasonic Lumix 25 mm f1.7 is $115.
Where would you say something like the Xpro-3 falls in at...premium? Fantastic video and content as usual!
love the video 📸
Great video, as always.
I know you couldn't cover everything, but for those who are thinking about Fuji, don't overlook the original XT1. It's been my main camera for 3+ years now, where I have used a variety of primes and zooms. The camera itself was £200, with my current setup costing less than £500 (XF 23mm F2 lens). The price of the camera hasn't really varied during this time, meaning you can essentially try it for next to nothing if you decide you want to sell and invest in a newer Fuji. It's allowed me to try out more lenses, which for me is more important, and can carry over if I decide to get a newer body. Yes it's slower, and has fewer features, but if you're looking to just do photography, the image quality still holds up today. A good camera does not stop being a good camera overnight just because newer ones come out.
X-t1 is more than good enough for most people for sure. I think a used xt-2 is still around 450+ usd and that can be a big budget difference. I also highly recommend the XC 15-45 if you can find one around $150, the zoom lens is optically much sharper than people think despite the plastic build quality (3 times lighter than even the 18-55), that will help beginners figure out their focal range.
@@anonymousl5150 personally I've never tried the XC lenses, but like you said, if they're lighter and optically similar, then it's a great initial saving.
@@willsamuelheather They're optically excellent and in many ways, 15-45 actually surpasses the 18-55 optically. I also like the 16-80 F4 zoom lens as well, it's not much bigger than 18-55 but has better corner IQ (except avoid the 80 end), best IOS among Fuji, and WR (which to me is essential for zoom lenses that zoom outward externally).
When you compare the modern cameras to the old film cameras used back in the day, it really puts knowledge vs technology into perspective.
For me, I'm chuffed I moved to an 'X-T4 and big 16-55mm f2.8' combo. I was feeling quite restricted by my 'X-T30 plus primes' combo before, having put all my focus on gear weight and sharp images at the expense of flexibility. (I got fed up swtiching primes, so tried the small 18-55mm and found that was also troublesome, with unreliable image sharpness and a fiddly variable aperture). The combo I've ended up with is allowing me to experiment a lot with composition, and has moved me away from the crutch of over-using f1.2. It wasn't a cheap upgrade, but I'm feeling more photography-ish now :) I'm sure I'll start using my primes more later, but for now I'm enjoying the zoom. I will say that an X-T4 plus 16-55mm is at about the limit of what I'm comfortable carrying for hours, and I'm a tall big guy, so it might not be right for everyone - though I think if it's in a risksack most would barely notice it.
Try hiking with an XT4 and the 50-140... workout in itself haha
@@snapsbyfox I know you do it! Confess I usually don't even bother carrying my f1.2 prime (for the lens power) in the bag when I'm already lugging the X-T4 and 16-55mm. So my combo also has a lot of weight on IT'S shoulders, as I expect it to cover evereything!
The additional costs of CF Express cards factored into me getting a Canon R6 instead of the R5. The price difference in the bodies was a factor, as well :)
My main camera is a Fuji X-T3 and I focus mainly on portraits on that. I also use it for street but recently I bought a Lumix LX-5 for under £100 from ebay. It shoots raw, is a small package and the lens can zoom from 24mm to nearly 90mm. Not to mention it has really good stablization which even my XT-3 body does not. This just goes to show that no matter what price point, there are cameras for everyone.
yeah, these days there is something for everyone!
I have a XT-20 and only reason to change a camera is a IBIS and some new film simulations. It's better to spend more money into lenses or other gear, like a good flashlight or solid tripod.
The best camera is ...that one that you like the straight out of the camera photos/stills ...Whitout Editing...✅👍😜😁
I’ve made the mistake of spending far too much on a camera in the past, the issue is you worry about taking it anywhere when it’s expensive, even when insured. I think Fuji strikes the sweet spot in terms of cost and even cost of repair. Don’t buy anything you can’t afford to replace at least twice over.
Love this bro. I was looking to upgrade to a GFX from a XT3 but as you pointed out, it's not really necessary for me. I re-evaluated and I find that a film set up may work better for me. Now I am considering something like a Pentax 67 for most of my photography uses.
Sounds good! you will probably learn a lot more from dabbling in film than moving to GFX
Hello sir... I have recently bought a FUJIFILM XT30 II with XC15-45mm F3.5-5.6 OIS PZ kit lens for Streetphotography and daily shooting purpose here in india. I'm not a professional photographer . But facing huge problem to find my Focal Length. I could not understand how can find my sweet spot / Perfect Focal Length ??? Help me out 🙏
In the budget one must also include a good photo editor and costs to display the images.
The fact that there wasn't a Fuji v Sony war in the comments gives me hope for humanity.
Sony a7c with small primes, I just love using it. If only I could have fuji film simulations 😅
ah I forgot about that one!
I want to buy the Fuji XS10 because I think it’s a good balance between video and photography .. but I keep wondering if it’s too big a leap for a beginner
After using a rangefinder, SLRs, a DSLR, bridge cameras and a Fujifilm X-E3 that was initially for astrophotography. I initially found the X-E3 a bit weird but eventually twigged what it was about. However, I find it frustrating that you cannot take videos by simply pressing a button because the camera needs to be put into movie mode. However, I am using the camera more and recently bought a 70-300mm lens for photographing solar eclipses and wildlife photography. It is a really light system and can easily walk a mile from my house to a local (Victorian) castle and photograph animals by the lake. The camera, normal lenses and the 70-300mm lens easily fitted into a backpack that fitted in the overhead locker of the aeroplane when I went on holiday. The JPGs produced by this camera have lovely colours so I don't need to alter them in software. Although I do use GIMP to reduce the file size when emailing them to friends.
I was thinking of upgrading to the X-S10 because it is small, it has IBIS and more features than the X-E3 but it is small, light and has a nice grip that everybody seems to like. It also has a movie shutter button on the outside so you can press this button to take videos straight away. It is a good allrounder that takes really good photographs.
This plan is on hold because the X-H2 and X-T5 were released last year with the 40MP sensor and better autofocus. It is possible that the X-S10 could be replaced this year by an improved model and I will probably wait until it comes out before deciding what to buy.
Like most modern cameras, the X-S10 has fully automatic modes so you can start off using one of these and gradually play around with the manual settings.
There are plenty of reviews on CZcams and other places. I would narrow your choice to a few cameras, go into a camera shop that stocks all of your candidate cameras, speak to the salespeople and see how they feel in your hands. When I went into the shop to buy the 70-300mm lens, there was a used 100-400 lens that cost a little bit more. On trying the big one on my camera, I realised that it would be too heavy for me and bought the 70-300mm.
Good luck with your photography.
I am just starting to learn and i got myself an Nikon d3300 with a Kit lens and one 50mm prime. Everything is used and for me personally it really helps to just start with the basics. Once i get the basics, i might upgreade but learning with less fancy stuff is the way to go in my opinion.
Using a DSLR Camera is way different then using a phone. Personally, i enjoy using a camera way more because its kind of a way to focus only on taking nice pictures. For me phones are really distracting. As a student with a tight budget, i can really recommend the Nikon d3300. Paid about 200€ and i think i can sell it for a good amount of money, once i decide to upgrade.
I have the exact same camera as you. I started my photography journey since a year. If I have an advice for you, don't fall to the trap that full frame is much better. The sensor of the D3300 is so good and no matter what they say, in daylight you can't tell a difference anyway between APS-C and full frame. That's the case after I bought a D800. The only thing I gained with that camera is much bokeh. Otherwise, everything in photography is not bokeh. Sometimes, you have to shoot in F/5.6 or 8 in order to give a glimpse of where you were. I decided to sell my D800 and keep my D3300 because it gives me everything that I want. It means something if company like Fujifilm sells APS-C cameras
@@bobamarmstrong Thank you for the great advice. I really thought about my camera choice because I got it without detailed research of sensor sized. The APS-S Sensor is great for me but I always wondered if i should have bought a full frame camera.
Looking forward to the Roman in Math Class video
Sold my Sony ff and all my Canon gear and moved to Fuji, I got to say I'm not regretting my decision
get a used nikon d700 or d750 and some 35/1.8 or 50/1.8
Thanks!
great video!
Cheers!
XS10 for the win
Currently have a 250d with the kit lens, 70-300, 50mm 1.8 and 24mm 2.8prime. Thinking of either, selling all to get the xh1, or sell the kit lense, 70-300 and the 24prime, to buy a second camera (either a 200d, or 250d) and a 17-55 2.8.
Edit: what will you do if you’re the one deciding?
oh man, honestly it depends on how much you love your canon system. However may I suggest skipping the XH1 and getting the XT3 instead. Or even XT2 as it's cheaper. then get the 18-55 kit to get going. Main reason as you won't have to worry about lenses if you upgrade in the future. With than canon system everything is dated or discontinued (correct me if I wrong)
@@snapsbyfox thank you man. Yes. I think they are moving forward with their RF system instead. Will try and find an xt3 witha good lens combo.
I'm rocking an XT2 with an 18-55 2.8/4 and I still enjoy using it all the time. I don't do video and I challenge anyone to tell the difference to the newer models for photography. Absolutely no need to upgrade for the next few years.
Thats the exact combination I would recommend to someone starting out. Buy a good used XT2 + good used 18-55 + a polariser + sd card + a spare battery...and you're there! For barely £500 total.
I have the xt4 and miss my xt3 :/. You are right. Upgrading isn't always it.
If anyone wants to go really budget, they can go for a xt2/ xt20/ x-e2 with a 15-45 kit lens (which in many tests like tb-photography's is sharper than the 18-55 and 16-80, with a useful minimum focusing distance for macro shots). The lens give you a very optimized range between 15 to 35 which are the most versatile street photo ranges. But even a used prime like 35 f2 or 23 f2 are a real banger for what you get, if one cares about the small details in sharpness over the zoom lens and more low light flexibility. Even an xt-1 is more than good enough for a beginner really, just a matter of xt-2 being so good you want to pay a bit more.
XT-2 user here too.
I own a Sony RX100 mkiii, a Canon M5 + a range of EF-M lenses, a Canon R and R3 with a range of EF & RF "L" lenses............all of my favourite images have been shot on the Sony & the M5, It's nice to have good gear but at the end of the day spending loads of money on toys doesn't mean it's the best kit for you.
am a first time photo enthusiast and am looking at Fuji. I thank you so much for your wonderful vids.They are above all else, inspirational to me. I have had some very light experience with Canon M50 and RX100 VII but find the results not very appealing and that Fuji cameras seem to lend themselves to a better result out of the box and a superior learning experience. So I was wondering if you could assist me. Two questions: 1. is buying refurbished from Fuji directly relatively safe and dependable? And 2. Can you help me decide between an X-T20 w/XC 16-50mm at around 550 US or an X-T2 w/XF18-55mm for around 1100 US? Both refurbs keeping in mind that I am a relative novice. TYI Joel
Go MPB for a used Fuji xt2 and lens and or if you are ok with grey market get the lens you want new from e infinity. I’ve used them loads. It’s always worth spending more on glass than bodies.
Solid answer from Stuart tbh. I would also look at MBP or even eBay although there is more risk at a lower price. 1100 sounds steep but if it is refurbished / like new and with a warranty, then it could be a good buy.
@@stuarttracey2009 Thank you for your input. I read reviews re:MPB and KEH and have reservations about customer service. I will take another look though based on your's and Roman's suggestions. Regards Joel
@@snapsbyfox Thank you for your quick response. I have looked at MPB, KEH, and eBay. While MPB seems to offer the best options I have concerns about customer service response and timeliness of communications. But based on your recommendation I will certainly take a deeper look. Thank you and keep up the great work you do.
Please what about the used market especially for Fuji
I mention that in the video
I REALLY want a R6 but right now I can't afford it so I bought a used 200D and 50mm 1.8 from MPB and it's a great little camera but I do notice some issues with focus and how sharp it is.
About the entry-level and mild level interchangeable lens camera, I wouldn't recommend the Canon M5/M6. The M lineup from canon is most likely to be discontinued so it might not be a good idea for the future. Unfortunately, I think canon doesn't have a true entry-level camera anymore. A "replacement" for the M5 might be coming within their new RF mount but it has not been announced yet. If it is to check if you actually like taking photos I would recommend starting with a fixed lens and then moving to the mild-level cameras I would recommend going to the R10 instead of the M6II, it will be a nice entry point to go to the high-end cameras. (And a bit not fair to put the XT4 without lenses while the others have lenses ahah).
Anyway great advice about how to choose your camera even though I disagree on a few points
Yeah there will always be different opinions regarding cameras. Neither is right or wrong, it is just preference. One thing I would say though as ive seen similar comments already is about the "rumour" that a certain camera etc will get discontinued. Get something for what it is today and not what it "might be" based on some random people on the internet. Good example is last year when the new iPad pros were 'rumoured' to run macOS final cut etc. Everyone got hyped up and when it didn't happen a bunch of nerds on CZcams cried about it. Hence any rumours or "it might / it might not" need to be taken with a pinch of salt
@@snapsbyfox I agree about rumors, it is what it is, just a hypothetical future that could be based on nothing. But, I would add that if you decide to go for the entry-level camera it might also be because you don't have the money. And when you choose a camera you also choose a system and there is a lot to buy around... so might be better not to choose something that might disappear soon. This is why I added this comment. What I think is a bad rumor is: "a new X camera is going to come maybe in X, I'll wait for it."
IMHO, the purpose is to take photographs, and that you enjoy the process of doing so, gear doesn't matter much to me. And I loved when you said that it is better to keep some money to train yourself or travel to a location to take the photo you would like to take.
My question is should I even bother buying a camera atm? I'm pretty cheap, so what I buy is hopefully my 'forever camera'. I'm hoping to get something on black friday/cyber monday. Either XT4 or A74. But isn't the next line of those cameras coming out soon?
There will always be something soon. If you're worried about that, then don't bother buying anything at all lol. Saying that any of these will last you for many years.
Sony A7IV just came out this year (December of last year in some regions).
Astute vid .
I'm waiting for the xt 5 I'm using the xh 1
Same... I might still pull the trigger on the XH2s but only for video as it is something I want to take more seriously. But for still holding out too
You prob ought to have mentioned that canon aren't making anything new for the m series.
Also given the fact that you simply can't buy sony's apsc range new (and second hand they are expensive), it's strange to see those as your recommendation. Don't get me wrong, they are fine and all, just old and not actually manufactured. Either wait for a new Sony apsc camera or buy a Fuji or M43 camera from Panasonic or Olympus.
Late to this video but I technically “downgraded” recently. I went from a full frame 45mp camera to the X-T4. It’s 100% has not felt or even a literally a downgrade by any means. There definitely are differences but just to show you there’s so much more to it than just a camera, lens, & sensor.
Understand your point on decreasing value returned for investment, but as with all generalizations, this doesn't hold completely across all cameras. Example would be the Nikon Z9, which clearly is more costly, full frame, high resolution - but, the return for value for sports/wildlife/action shooters is the only Nikon camera without a shutter, shoots silently, high frame rates, much improved AF / AE accuracy, pre-capture/post-capture feature and significantly improved video specs that no other Nikon DSLR or Mirrorless camera has. So, I do understand your generalization to the general public. Point is, know if you need the extra features, but also realize that the improvement in features is not always marginal (as you demonstrate). Value shouldn't also be limited to the features in higher models. Example is that I spend much time traveling to locations and money on gas/lodging/etc. If the improved features improve the shooting experience and allow me to capture images I would otherwise miss, it's hard to put a value on that. Lastly, I believe you left out a most valuable point on "budget". That is, a lens choice will devalue less, and be more important, than the body.
Totally get your point but this video is not aimed at you or at someone who knows what a Z9 even... tbh even I had to google what a Z9 is lol. This video is aimed at someone just starting out. Ive done over 100 workshops with beginners and I can tell you that the moment you over complicate things, people switch off. It's a bit like you buying your first car and I am talking to you about boost pressure and dual mass flywheels...
@@snapsbyfox I understand, completely. I've started at the lowest levels of many things (as a beginner) such as dance and rose to very advanced competitor, so I do understand keeping things simple for individuals starting out Roman. I'm a stickler for accuracy - and I'm fine with generalizations (as long as you mention it as such). Just sayin. I think you did a very good job breaking things down for someone searching on how to get started. I'm glad you are dedicated to teaching and helping others. 4 years ago, I didn't know my way around a camera other than to push the shutter button. Now, I can tell you more about OSPDAF systems than you want to know. Doesn't mean I'm a better photographer, but I'm working on it. ;-). Keep putting out your educational videos and keep up the great work.
Great video as always Roman! After years of taking pictures with phones, I'm gonna buy a good camera at the end of the year! Super excited! Between the XT4 and the A7 III, which one do you think is more worth? Wanna shoot both stills and video
@Jose Salinas Muchas gracias por tu respuesta José! Really helpful info, and definitely those things you pointed out makes me go for the Fuji over the Sony, is the 16-55 f2.8 good for video? Compared to the kit lens 18-55? Is the 18-55 a good lens to start? Is the video autofocus of the XT4 good? Thanks for your answer!
@@BabeHazard My understanding is the 16-55 is the best zoom for video for a lot of reasons, one of which has to do with the autofocus
I would say look at the XT4 and even consider the 18-55 as it has good video AF and comes as a kit so you save a ton.
AF on XT4 is deffo more than good enough for most people.
I would avoid the A7iii
@@AsAJanitorMops...thank you, guess gonna stick with the 18-55mm for the beginning
@Jose Salinas the 18-55 vs the 16-80? The 18-55 is better for video compared to the 16-80 right?
That 16-55 looks amazing but a bit out of my reach price wise :(
I once had a Fuji S3 which I loved. Now I have a Nikon D7100 which I kinda / sorta love, but mostly hate. My next camera will unquestionably be another FUJI.
I hate the Nikon JPGs and colors. But I surely do love the Fuji JPGs and colors.
I've never used raw files in my life. I simply don't have the time to fool around doing nothing for hours on end in front of my computer. I hate to say it ... but the average photographer is far more skilled with Photoshop than they are with their actual photography and knowing the capabilities of their equipment. People seem to believe that Photoshop can fix absolutely everything. And I say, oh yeah? Ha!
Ah, lake Bled!
In your opinion, with models like the xt4, xe4 xt30ii being discontinued, is it worth buying any of the mentioned models now or is it better to wait for the xt5 when you think it will be released ?
Curious about your opinion on possible system updates for the recalled models.
They were amazing cameras at launch, had tons of updates that made them stacks better than they were. If we're talking objectively, even if they get discontinued now and get stuck at this latest firmware, they are cameras that imho will last another 3-5 years. They're already very fast, great 26MP sensor (which lots of people agree you don't need more than that unless you're printing REAL BIG), X mount is not going anywhere if not grow more. So, yes I think they're a great buy even when they're (only) one generation older than the next XT5, XH2, XPro-4, etc.
Amani answered better than I could
I see that you visited Slovenia. I hope you enojoyed it :)
LOVE it. wanna move here haha
You can not adopt Canon m-series lenses when you upgrade. Once you buy it, you are stuck with it.
Fujifilm had the best quality price on the market I think
I don't understand the agitation against the Canon M series. I bought an M50m2 and it is the best camera I ever owned. At its price there is not much comparable in terms of size, weight and capability. All the discontinuation rumors are just that, age old rumors.
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The most important point you make is that, if you're consistently taking bad photos with a modern camera, or camera-phone, then it's your fault. There really are no excuses any more.
An entry-level Canon and kit lens can produce award winning images.
Remember also that a full-frame Canon 5D mkii can be bought very cheaply, and professionals were using that camera for a decade, to produce the very finest work. Some still are.
as a sony user , my a7iii died, shutter failure at 250k clicks, its rated for 300k, quite disappointing considering its price, and i had to upgrade to a7iv because I invested in the system.
2) Still quite bummed that the a7iv does not even have any info it it's weather sealed or not :S
more expensive does not necessarily mean better. :D
happy shooting!
but the A7IV *is* weather sealed.
@@wohfab i haven't found anywhere where they said so?
All the Sony FF cameras are weather sealed (I have an A7RII), just be careful about 3rd party lenses as alot aren't 👍
Il sistema migliore è quello con il quale ci si trova meglio professionista o fotoamatore che sia . Per la maggioranza dei fotoamatori me compreso non sanno usare le macchine , bisogna avere una laurea in ingegnere elettronico . Avendo la possibilità le prenderei tutte per il gusto di averle 😂😂👋👋.
You probably don't need a GFX100S but you do get 120% of the Fujifilm experience ;)
haha yeah and back pain
Camera bodies come and go….Lenses are the keepers, look after good glass.
Yep!
Where's my X-T1 on that chart? 🤣
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I rather spend a good amount and not have to upgrade later
I subscribe to this logic too and do the same. I just don't say it too much as people like us who can do that are the privileged few. Most simply don't have that option.
If only there is a crystal ball, that works.
Date a camera body but marry lenses 😎
Why the workshop??? Just go on CZcams and save the money for a better lens