BETTER THAN HERRSCHER TRIO?! Thelema Support Senadina Showcase
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- Honkai Impact 3rd v7.4 Beta v3 - BETTER THAN HERRSCHER TRIO?! Thelema Support Senadina Showcase - Mad Pleasure - Shadowbringer
0:00 Intro
0:17 Symphony Kevin
1:54 Lightning Husk Hitcount ver
3:52 Stardust Guaymas
5:06 Bloodlust SD Swarm Boss
6:36 Symphony SD Swarm Boss
8:00 Lightning Andrius
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1. HI3 7.4 PV
2. HI3 7.3 PV
3. HI3 Duonigue Boss Theme
Outro: Soft Heavy Hands - Mood2Go4E
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Game: Honkai Impact 3rd, from miHoYo / Hoyoverse, the same developer as Genshin Impact and Honkai: Star Rail
#HonkaiImpact3rd #Hoyoverse #Thelema - Hry
Check out Thelema DPS showcase here:
czcams.com/video/BItrH62Ea30/video.html
Bro, I'm not blind. Thelema Ultimate has bug where it lock the score timer for few second even after the end of her Ultimate.
Most people may be trick but not me.
@@RaykinaBreaker It’s not a bug. It’s a feature Mihoyo designed to get you to pull for her signature weapon.
@@sophiezhao8260Still that's too broken and nonsense to be considered as skill. It literally break the 4th wall since the timer should ca only be interrupt by Time fracture and Time lock ultimate.
I will really hate if more future valk will have that broken skill.
part 2 team is crazy value,imagine u only pull senadina and thelema and u got full team ice and lightning only 2 patch 😂
you need to pull Sena waepon + Senadina and wep + Thelena that will cost tons of crystals
Cheaper than old teams@@hanionline563
You gonna need one hell of a luck for both especially the weapon since the weapon banner is the most atrocious one to get due to the stigna rates
@@hanionline563tons? Part 1 trio cost u about 3-4x or even more. Part 2 trio literally a bargain Lmao
@@hanionline563 I used to pull at least 100-120 pulls on 4/4 set before so cutting it to 60 is really good. Some players are just lucky, but for players like me who's so unlucky on equipment supply, the banner rate update is definitely better than before.
Herrscher Trio now only relegated to Abyss and SSS MA Flower and Bull (and SSS Andrius too). Damn they really fell very quick, there are other DPS Valks that lasted way longer than them (like BKE, HoT, and HoR). This new Trio can also perform well in Symphony Benares as well and HoTr-Luna-FoV apparently already cover SSS Benares when I see reference in bilibili. Guess I don't need to pull for HoFi's gears anymore.
Before,only the arc sucked,now we know that they suck competitively too.
@@kallenlivesmatter3229 they are always sucks. While their coverage is insanely huge, there are better options to use that can score higher than them, even HoTr DPS and MMG literally can score better than Herrscher Trio in IMG Weather like FGO or HoD (former), and Fire Stuff (latter). Most of their bosses now already belongs to other Valks. They lost Ignite Parvati and Meele HoC to FoV, SSS Benares to HoTr-Luna-FoV, and now they lost all their Symphony Weathers to Thelema and Sena.
Herrscher of Human Ego also Lasted
@@HonkaiDaily she actually fell really quick the moment our disturbance skyrocketed. Most of her bosses now belongs to HoTr now, like Herrscher Trio, she only got a couple of bosses, which are Type Kasumi, Ice RPC, Freeze Hephaestus, and Ice Wardens of Towers. SW also stole her bosses back from HoHE (Ice Nihilius, Ranged Kalpas, Ranged Assaka).
@@shinhikaru HoTr is primarily Support, She can't out Dps HoHE, almost No one continued to Use HoTr as a Dps after HoFin & HoO released, there's a reason she's always been on Marisa's Recommended Slots, She's been the Main Ice Dps for the Majority of Players and Kira was basically introduced to boast Her, SW was niche and lot of players Skipped her including Spenders
They weren't kidding when they said part 2 was beginner friendly, they're power creepin everything.
Makes sense tho
HoV meta : 2018-2019(lost to Quantum enemies and to Swallowtail Phantasm)
HoR meta - 2019-2024 (with Thelema)
HoT meta - 2020-2024 (once lost with DoSanction to HoF and 7T to Luna)
HoS meta - 2021-2023 (support lost to HoRB , Dps lost to near future?)
HoF meta - 2021-2023 (her boss taken over by trio,Sirin and FoV)
HoHE meta - 2022-2024 (lost to Thelema
Part.1 trio meta - 2023-2024💀 (lost to random part.2 valkyries)
Even Trio doesnt last for at least 2 years,I'm not surprised if HoRB gon he replaced with 100% impair def reduction physical breach part.2 Valkyrie)
Thats if we will get physical part 2 valk which is can be quite confusing to pair with unless they do double physical patch 1 being free A rank and 1 being s rank banner
The most expensive team to build but the fastest one getting powercrept.. and the fact that they released them back to back which caused a lot of people to top up (including me). This is actually very2 disappointing.. 😢
Tbh the part 2 was especially way too strong
The good thing is that they cheap
So you wont get stressed that much and gonna catch up quickly
Its not that trio wasnt good
Its was enough to cover multiple bosses even if they didnt top score(via brute force)
trio not even 2 years.. Are you ready to die Hoyoverse?
Senti still isn't powercrept in support because she is the best support for HoRb DPS lmao
Thought Part.1 trio would last for at least 2 or 3 years but nahh
So this marks the longest meta lasting valk hoyo ever released is BKE
What about HoT?
@@ololoComedyHoT lasts the same but the time gap between Domain of Sanction and 7T is kinda big
Before 7T, HoT was just a SP support for HoF in MA and even HoF took her BKE boss for quite some time before 7T
But for BKE, shes always been Jizo and DJXY & HoS killer before AF treatment
I dun remember if HoS came out before AF or after AF
It's of Herrscher of Reason, nearly 5 years
@@HonkaiDailyHoR with Domain of Revelation was meh before SoEden treatment
Even BK took over her type counter Huodou boss
@@nagaito10 I've Never seen BKE in the Top 100 for Huodou, yah She can probably brute Force it but Mobius can do that as a Mech Type too, their Scores just won't be competitive Plus BKE is my favorite Valk it's a bit sad but She fell of first between the 2, I still use Her for Fun tho XD
Edit: also also BKE also had a similar problem before Abyss Flower was Released
Thelema causing time to stop so much, noticed it especially in the last video with the MA bosses it felt like some crazy runs of the p1 trio and she does it all on her own
gg!
Just started last year and it's really good that I can build properly an Ice and Lightning team now. Pulling for equipment of old characters is so expensive with the 50 pity each piece, so getting the equipment of new valks is definitely better for my account to survive in Redlotus. What I lack right now is a Fire team but I will wait longer coz FoV just released and I skipped her for new trio. Will stay with my 4/4 HoF for now. 😅
Ngl I regret full gearing Part 1 trio. They fell off so quick it hurts. But it wont hurt as badly as trying to get Thelema will be.
guess i won't pull luna anymore lmao these devs be ticking off part 1 valks like there's no tomorrow 💀 won't be surprised if even FoV won't last a year in the meta
Absolutely hurt me when I got almost everyone in game but still missing HoTruth, was thinking to pull her after Thelema but here I am stuck at point where I should just forget about my final herrscher and went to senadina and thelema. I guess this is clear sign for me to stay below red lotus...or perhaps even agony 3. What a great ride since i always try to stay relevant in both place for better reward but in recent update I totally feels underwhelming to keep up with everything. Anyways I think newbie would have a blast playing this games during part 2 cuz they literally can have Symphony team setup on them plus Counter type stardust enemy if they manage to have senadina
I blew all my crystals this patch. I hope I get super lucky next patch and get a super early Thelema.
😮i havent completed all my story quest yet
Imagine being more powerful than the gods of the entire world lol
Sena is speculated to be another cocoon of finality tho
damn, i was planning on skipping thelema cuz i'm not a big fan of her basic attack filled playstyle but with her synergy with sena it's looking like i should pull her...
Vi Thelema y vine rápido como pude 🏃🏻♀️💨
hi, great video... Can i ask a video for player like me who started play 2 days ago? im not sure where i have to pull, if i need to wait someone or what SSR pick after 7 days login... ty if you will do.
Better pull part 2 characters (Senadina), they have a cheaper supply and uses a new system.
Check out this vid on why part 2 supplies are better czcams.com/video/WPsInhOXTrw/video.html
Or just browse through my latest vids
I started playing with part 2 and fully geared sena's team and was thinking what part 1 valks to build for MA since it locks valks to a single boss? any advice who to build? currently saving crystals for thelema but I can get the sp valks/war treasury valks
Put Sena on one boss,
Coralie on the other
and Helia on the other one
Can you actually maintain red lotus with max gear but without signature weapon?
1:54 PERFECT
Im still unsure if I should get Helia gear. Its not only the crystals but also the many prism you need and I doubt we will get enough each patch to fully level a new stigma set. Is there any viable replacement for her in this team?
Helia’s stigmas are affordable. You can forge, you can do 20 pulls, stigma drop rate is crazy and 20 pulls will probably get you full set with the free stigma box. Weapon is optional if you really want to save.
@@MarisaHonkai You know what? You are right. Ended up getting the weapon in one 10-pull. My only concern with the new gear are the prism because I kinda doubt we will get enough each patch to fully level up one set.
Hi Marisa, got a serious question about Gacha investment
this patch i decided for Senadina, but pulling her weapon drain my xtal dry
The question is about Helia weapon. is it worth to pull her weapon? or Forged weapon is fine with the 3stigma?
i don't have triple herrscher so at first i thought the new Honkai 2.0 can do that, but unfortunately Helia is also Lightning element
i just have a feeling that Helia and Coralie is gonna be replaced pretty soon in the meta. Especially coralie since her weapon have no pri-arm(best girl tho)
So i don't have to pull for Hotr anymore? I got HoFi n HoO fully geared and 15k crystals should i spend them on sena and thelema??
Pulling HoFi before HoTr is bad investment. Anyway, yes, I've mentioned multiple times in valk guides - not recommended to pull part 1 valks anymore, because part2 valks use a new astral ring system, and cheaper to build.
Valk guide: czcams.com/video/ZxOoW2CbiC8/video.html
Why part 2 supplies are good: czcams.com/video/tY8VX0WuxbQ/video.html
@@MarisaHonkai thank you 🥸✨
I wonder if there will be third S-rank for the trio to replace Helia.
you bet
Pls no!! unless it's free just like hoo for trio
Probably someone fire with wheel of fortune.
@@zeero113Coralie and Helia being almost free is the reason why we might not get a free valk again for the mean time tho. So let's just hopium for the best.
I am returnee with just a few P1 Valks and no sign wep neither stigma. But apparently getting lucky and got Thelema full set in 30 pull so do I need Sena or i can just use P1 valks as her support?
Edit: after read many comments and ur reply seems like Thelema without Sena is almost useless
can coralie replace helia? and how %diff [*i dont have weapon for helia]
Hey Marisa I just got back to the game last week and was wondering with do you skip helia's ult in most cases. If you could reply or, even better, send me a guide vídeo I'd appreciate it
Hello, welcome back. Helia's ult has no time stop and her ult buffs are applied during Stellar Outburst too, so no need to use ult if you can enter Stellar Outburst during the same rotation - waste of time and score loss.
Latest valk guides are on the channel guide playlist
czcams.com/video/wcNLZS45ApA/video.html
@@MarisaHonkai thanks, I'm having a blast with the stellar outburst mechanic. Also thank you again for the info and the video. Keep up this god sent work you're doing!
Sorry I dont understand some terms but whats the D when you mention them with numbers (490 D, 511 D). D means damage?
Disturben. The higher it is the stronger the enemy
Abyss has Disturbance value, and this value is always increasing or decreasing based on certain factors. Basically, the higher the D, the tankier the boss.
Is it worth getting Helia gear if tight on resources? Have HoTr and her gear
Helia’s stigmas are affordable. You can forge, you can do 20 pulls, stigma drop rate is crazy and 20 pulls will probably get you full set with the free stigma box. Weapon is optional if you really want to save.
Me gusta la voz en chino de Senadina
I hope they’ll fix the part2 Valkyries not being able to enter that open world problem
Ok, so I'm late to playing again, because at first I'm not interested on sena. Now, thelema come out 😩🤭 definitely gonna pull her, but is it still good if i don't have sena???
Sena is still her best partner because Sena gives elemental breach if you know how the meta works elemental breach is like the impair for elemental teams but Thelema can still work with sushang + Kira/pardo but her full potential is in the astral ring team
@@xLvsinq oh no... Guess I'm gonna pull Sena on her rerun 😅😮💨
i wonder why does sena has different pose when activating the astral point than we have now at SEA server
I know this is late, but I think it depends on the AstralOp used.
What would be a good team for her without Sena?
Are helia and songque worth pulling? Can helia be replaced by Eden in this team?
I think all Part 2 characters are good since they powercreeped everything
Anyone in comment which vid is for thelema guide gimme the link
i still dont hv helia weapon and i lack crystals, should i still roll for weapon or wait for thelema?
Don't go for Helia weap now. She can work with the craftable one. Save for better valks instead.
ah okay, i guess its thelema then😄
god damn i love part 2 valks so much, the combat is so much better than part 1
Man ill finally be able to full gear my whole trio with free HoO and her gears with bp only for the team to basically be obsolete now. You hate to see it
CMIIW, in short, we don't really need SS Sena. S is enough to support Thelema?
This is support thelema vid, sena is the main dps here, but yes theres no extra support skill behind higher rank for sena
Are there dps thelema team alternatives from part 1 characters?
Sushang and Kira iinm
@@topeygarcia6734 Jade Knight is not available right now, is there a manageable character?
@@counterstriketurkiyepgyldz2355 Jade Knight is at war treasury if i remember correctly. You can directly buy her there or farm her there, if she's still not accesible, Azure Empyrea or Coralie can be your support together with either Kira or Pardo
@@topeygarcia6734thank you
Thelema 😊
The tummy/midriff trio
Sena in SS have upgrade supp buff??
No. She just need S-rank to support Thelema
@@MarisaHonkai thankyou
okay but how good is Thelema with the traditional Sushang/Kira or even Kira/Coralie?
Since mihoyo hates me and dont want me to have Sena and much less her weapon, can I just skip Sena and go for Thelema and her weapon? she works with HoTruth 4/4 and some ice supp like kira?
without Sena, there could be two options: coralie and helia are universal suports, or you could use kira and sushang wich is the staple suports for ice dps, i don't know wich one would be better, so i would recomend testing, and for HoTr, she is just worse in ice teams when compared to Sus and kira.
@@dhtytreal770 I forgot coralie and helia are universal supports. I'll inhale copium and skip sena, anyway we will get dedicated supports for Thelema in the future *copium*
@@snell9652 i mean, technicaly sena is a dedicated sup for thelema, since she has an specific skill that buffs her and only her, but yeah, most likely a new 5 star will come that will replace coralie(possibly a fire unit to complete with the three types of elemental dmg)
Can Thelema work well enough with Coralie + Helia?
Sena is still important because she gives elemental breach which is a big damage boost, just pull for sena and weapon first then get thelema
- Sena is important, provides breach, buffs and fulfill thelema ar effects
- There's no good alternative for now.
Don't think I can get enough for Sena now. Oh well, I'll get her next time since Thelema will be cheaper than the whole things happened in this version update.
Should Thelema info came 1 week earlier, I wouldn't drop 5600 crystals on HoFin gear at all.
The power creep is crazy
Bro. you didn't notice thelema still stop the timer even after her ultimate ended for few second. That's obvious a Bug.
@RaykinaBreaker that's her signature weapon effect lol
@@RaykinaBreaker Thats her signature weapon effect
I mean… are we surprised at this point? powercreep is like the bread and butter of honkai. HoV used to be the most OP char too, now she’s basically trash
So Hoyo really killed off the Herrscher trio already?
I mean but as someone who doesnt really care about the meta and just wants to play for fun without having to spend too much time on each stage, is it a bad thing for valks to get replaced?
It depends on who you have/who you're pulling for.
@@haveagoodday7021 as an f2p I can only pull for limited valks. Mobius and senadina is till my lighting dps, using bronya as ice dps, have herrsecher trio, and fire is kinda sad with vill v but all of them are fully geared. Physical team is also suffering since I use senti and ely
@@Popcatatawhich bronya battlesuit are u using?
@@kangelparfait silver wing🥲🥲, I also have HoTr but no gears. I think pulling for thelema might be a good option since I have senadina
nope , but some of this type of player still want to clear content with high score that's why powercreep complain still exist
guys do you remember when Luna was broken?
She still is?
RIP herrscher trio
I really like the appearance of all the Part 2 Valkyries, especially Senadina.
HOWEVER, gameplaywise the only Valkyrie I'm interested in right now is Thelema.
I'm not a fan of Senadina and Helia's gameplay, especially the yoyo weapon, which seems nonsensical to me.
Though I have to admit, Coralie is satisfying to play both in normal mode and Elysian Realm.
While I can appreciate that Coralie offers satisfying gameplay in both normal mode and the Elysian Realm, relying solely on her isn't enough to keep me engaged with the game.
This feeling is made worse by the fact that Thelema, a Valkyrie I like to play, is closely linked with Senadina, a character whose gameplay I genuinely dislike.
The final nail in the coffin is that the team that cost the most ended up having the shortest time in the meta.
Well, it appears I won't be remaining in this game for much longer.
Same, I was really hyped about Thelema but now that they make Senadina mandatory for her, I just lost any motivation left to play this game.
F2Ps won't even have enough crystals to pull 2 consecutive S ranks (unless they luck out), let alone their weapons.
The level of powercreep in this game is becoming more and more disgusting. What a shame.
you know you don't even need to play senadina with thelema as a dps? LOL thelema literally plays solo, but keep complaining ig
if andrius doesn't have ice immunity this team can score more
Pretty sure he has ice immunity
Coraline or helia?
both are free
and yet you still won't post her with a standard setup? sushang and kira?
Обожаю первую часть и старых персонажей. Новые не нравятся. Жду Project Mugen и Zenless Zone Zero
The fact that I won't pull Sadine and wait for new character just to found out Sadine is in support role for new one is BS. Better save for part 1 that I still lacking rather than chasing new meta every patch😂
Exactly
啊？這三位已經無視環境了？2.0還能玩？
Why are the gameplay of the new valks so boring? I’m trying so hard but I can’t really seem to like them
Part 2 powercreep is real
Thats some crazy bullshit levels of powercreep, its kind makes me unmotivated to keep playing .... and yeah I know Hi3 always had a lot of powercreep, but this shit is insane , like way way too much
So you are telling me that coralie only lasted one patch for Sena? Since Thelma will support sena and vice versa?
Dps thelema team uses Coralie
czcams.com/video/BItrH62Ea30/video.html
So you’re saying she’s strong?
Well its only for p2w, f2p not allowed
Works for f2p too
@@MarisaHonkaisena & thelema isn't f2p
I wonder why people don't even notice that Thelema has a bug that stop the score timer even after the end of her Ultimate for few second that resulted they get a higher score than they supposed to be.
That's not a bug, that's her signature weapon effect.
that's her Sign weapon passive
Because that's not bug lmao
the powercreep in this game is beyond disgusting and inexcusable. it happens WAY too fast
watch this team gets powercrept again in a few months 😂😂
thats why i quit this game. insanely p2w
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tho if keebster comes back, i might play this game again 😭
The reason of the high score is the new system
The team is literally essentially for any next future team and its literally cheap tf 💀
It’s not that much p2w anymore because full gear is significantly cheaper than before and stigmata is craftable but u can get a lot from the gacha
Thelema is so cool and I'd start saving now that I've returned, but man - all the changes and new characters are overwhelming! Now my characters are obsolete, and most aren't even geared 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠