It's Ugly Before It's Pretty
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- čas přidán 12. 10. 2021
- This is the "before" video of Phil, a new arrival from Baja. Phil is an 8 year old ranch horse who, like many horses, has been ridden incorrectly. So his first reaction has been to put his head way up in the air to evade the bit. Pat's job is to teach Phil about pressure and RELEASE and that he doesn't have to defend himself any more because he will get a fair deal. Please follow along on Phil's progress in the coming weeks. For more information, visit our website at www.thedisciplinedride.com . Please take a moment to hit the Like button, Subscribe to our Channel, and Share with your friends. Thank you for watching!
Thank you again Pat, for such clear, helpful information and demonstration. Your work with each horse always shows consistent, kind communication.
Wish I'd had these videos 40 years ago.
And thanks also to Deb ("my bride") 😊, as you sometimes call her, for all her assistance. What a wonderful team you two make!
Once again, another wonderful video!
Timely Timeless Teachings
Thank you Pat, for your patience, to teach us that want to learn! Thank you Pat and Bride! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I'm not younger than you Pat. I'm older than you. Probably a lot older. My tackless riding horse is my arabian breeding stallion. He rides very nicely alone or in company. I hung a halter on his head for the first time when he was 6 years old. The next day I had him leading and loading, took him home and took his training from there. He learned every cue I would ever need from the ground before I ever got on his back. He has been tacked up but he has never been ridden with a stitch of tack. The first time I got on we took a ride down a trail I'd walked him down many times. He will lead just as well without a leadrope as he does with one even when surrounded by mares in season. If you want a classy ride you couldn't get one more classy than Midnite Star.
I miss all these Pat-isms. Such great quotes!
I wish more people would watch these training videos. There really helpful.
A great, informative video as usual.
I like that horse's demeanor. It appears that he wants to get it. Thanks again.
The word “ release” is the most important word in training for a lot of us. When they show even the slightest try at giving what you’re looking for in baby steps,you build from there. Now for me it’s not drilling them them over & over and over again on the same day at the same new thing I get about 3 good try’s & go do something else and maybe before heading back to the barn I’ll give it one my go, if it works great if it doesn’t I go do something he knows and end on a positive thing. When I start anything new I warm up with what my horse knows than I ask for the new request I might get a little of what I want than I release the pressure, my release at this stage is mostly seat and legs but as soon as I get that try from my horse his reward is me taking all the pressure off instantly at that give or try. Most horses catch on fast. See how the cavison or nose band was added & the slightest of pressure was given from the ground on the reins the horse broke a little at the poll came to the bit and took a step back, the trainer immediately release the pressure. That was a BIg try by that horse. Great example.💕
He looks so much better already! Miss you two!
I enjoy watching you work with the different horses - as you identify their problems and how to make them come along better:)
thank you to one of my favorite horsemen
This is my favorite video ! So many people don't know the release is really inportant. It is so true about outlasting horses.
Been following you all for quite a while... I have no desire to ever develop a "bridal horse", however the meat of most of your videos are stocked full of horsemanship and stockmanship that can be applied to any discipline...
Great video! Thanks Pat and Deb for sharing with us the progress of Phil “the upside down horse”👏 can’t wait to see what’s next!
Awesome tips and instructions to do em.
Thank you horse and rider.
Thanks Pat.. So much good riding that we need only to pay attention too and take the time it takes for each horse we ride.
One of the best approches ever..So many want short cuts..💕
The nose band is a gimmick, I do really like how you acknowledged that. What I appreciated even more is how you use it for a period of time to allow the horse to come up with a new idea. Great video. This is my first time watching one of your videos, I subscribed!
The last thing I want to do is help my horse come up with new ideas. He comes up with more than enough of his own but he is far different from the horse Pat is on. Pat is an excellent trainer and I enjoy watching him work.
@@leealexander3507 to each their own. I love to teach my horses to think their way through problems, for me it is better than being reactive.
Horse training, dog training, all the same...simple...pressure and release, great video.
I love watching your videos, they are always on a subject I'm dealing with in my horses (I have 3 for my wife and mine use) I am older so I don't do as much saddle time as I need and should do. Thanks for the direct talk and handling of these magnificent partners. By the way you have an absolutely beautiful saddle. Stay safe
I really enjoy your style Pat. Even though I need hip replacement and scared to get one at the moment, I am preparing for the day when I can ride again without excruciating pain by studying your videos. Long time subscriber! If I had a dollar for every time I have recommended your channel to folks, I'd probably be rich! Thank you for your videos! Great respect to you and Deb! From NE Ohio--hope to see you here in our neck o' the woods sooner than later!
Agreed Friend
You're the man for that job, Pat.
You are tougher than a cheap steak ,Pat. I thank you again for wonderful training assist
I would love a video that focuses on footfall! Great videos!
This was a great demonstration! This is the first video of yours I've seen; I'm looking forward to checking out others!
A real cowboy / horse whisperer. All the horses , even the new ones in his videos
I love watching your videos!
Oh how blessed we all are that you are sharing your knowledge with all of us! I’m 65, oh what I wouldn’t of done to have learned this years ago! I’m so interested in the how’s and why’s, for that there is the gold! I want the horses mind! Bravo for a wonderful session. What I wouldn’t give to have one of your trained horses! I was a city girl all my life, moved out to the country 17yrs ago. I am at the barn everyday 4-5 hrs with my 28yr old quarter horse learning all I can. So thank you so very much! You can teach an ole dog new tricks! Lol. Greetings from Northern Illinois ❤️
I dont have a horse but luv watching these vids..So peaceful..
Hind quarters! The engine, correct? Thank you Pat and Bride! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Thank you 👍🏻
Thank you sir
Love this
I have miss these great videos thank you both 😊
The way he stands at 2:50 is hilarious
its so interesting how mistakes in training like this are totally universal! i live in europe and my ten year old mare was ridden in poland and germany which is where i live, so nowhere close to mexico, but she had the exact same problems! her entire conformation changed since being ridden differently. i used to think she had a godawful build looking like a hollow backed giraffe, but her topline and neck carriage changed drastically! i see this in a lot of dressage riders here too, trying to collect the horse with pulling on the head and it results in the same thing
Pat, I have sure enjoyed your videos.
Thank you. I wish I seen this 25 years ago.
SLEISTER BITS...Don & Vic Sliester were friends. Roped at our place when they were both about 80...back before we all had a cell phone camera in our pocket. Hate I dont have a photo..
Missing link has done wonders for me 👏🏼
Mug buen trabajo,,, gracias por compartir
Very nice. I see these hard mouths from bad hands all the time. I love your videos.
The muscles of the underside of the horses neck are pretty developed, his topline muscles are weaker. That'll all change as he gets balanced.
I so enjoy your teachings, thank you so for showing getting off of pressure, very understandable. You are a true horseman!
well done--- easy for both horse and rider to understand. compassionate leadership.
So much great knowledge shared so freely, I transition race horses to pony horses, and am so thankful for all the wisdom here. Thank you Sir.
I always enjoy your videos. I learn so much and am able to bring that knowledge to my “4-legged pupils “ and am able to explain what’s going on to their owners better. Thank you
Awesome video!!!!
Love your videos Pat, in addition to your knowedge and skill, your humor is spot on, thank you! If there is any way to break down just a little bit more, your movements and intention in the back wards walk, getting the front feet to step out and back, I sure would appreciate it. I understand it's quite subtle. You say put your left foot "on" is that on the horse or down in the stirrup? It looks like you are stepping out and back 2 or 3 times on one side, then switching sides, or are you/can you sort of sashay to each side for every front foot fall of the horse? Love this technique!
Real nice explanation of a problem that most humans never get Pat...thanks ....OnWard.....
Good job...
Pat I know you don’t care but I really think you are very cool !
Because I drive my horses first and train youngsters, I always use a caveson/noseband. I set mine a thumb's Width below the facial ridge. I will use it as loosely as I can but if I need to tighten it to avoid the horse from ignoring the bit, I can. It is an essential part of my equipment.
Can you clarify why you listen for the cricket ? This is where I am currently at with my two older horses, working with your snaffle. Going well with both and next session I will be paying more attention to make sure there is no gapping. At one point you said "do you notice I am not giving" ? Could you clarify why at that point you were not releasing.? Thanks for sharing so much. Nova Scotia says hello.
This is my 12 year old to a T. Gonna have to watch this few times to understand.
This is the reason I can’t watch western movies…..I end up yelling at the TV. 😂. Thank you!
I use a snaffle bit and voice train my horse to back up
We never use voice commands except when driving a horse or a team. Your voice cannot be as subtle as your body and there is no release with your voice. Also, you can only devise so many voice commands to use while there is an almost infinite number of things a horse can do by simply moving away from pressure or following the clues given by your body.
Sir : have you ever heard are read that in the ole days the cowboys would put cut notches in the horses mane to let others know if the horse was straight in the bridle , two rein , are the Bosals ??
Back when cowboys would catch different horses each morning to go out to work cattle . Thanks
Ted Stephenson. Leslie Ar.
Please come to Australia. I need you.
Well, at least I can say I've seen the desert, and, a horse with no name!
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3:00 hahaha. I just recovered from a broken pelvis and being launched into the clouds by my 7 year old gelding!
Love your hat! What kind is it?
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How can I stop the forward movement when I’m side passing? Without pulling constantly on her mouth. You make it look easy. Ive been trying to make written notes to read when I go to the arena.
You don’t pull constantly. You pull and release and pull and release until the horse gets it. It can start on the ground and it can start facing a fence.
I try watching other videos and I just can’t listen or watch….but I want to crow your names from the rooftops
Protecting his mouth from former past, of mouth pain. Correct ?
Do you have a video on how you attach the nose band to the bridle??
It’s not attached to the bridle. It’s underneath the bridle. We don’t buckle it until we have the horse bridled so the horse can freely open his mouth to take the bit. Then we buckle it so we can fit one finger between the noseband and the horse’s jaw. It isn’t meant to be so tight that the horse can’t move his mouth. It’s just a reminder not to open his mouth and evade the bit.
@@PatnDebPuckett thanks for the clarification Pat! Could I get that nose band at any tack shop???
I plan not getting your bit very soon. My horse is a lot like this one.
Deb, where is Shoshone these days?
The throat latch on the horse seems a bit tight.
Poor horse😢
Poor boy. His deformed neck is telling everything. Someone really made big mistakes. God bless Mr. Puckett for fixing the body and the mind of this horse.
Do you mind if I ask why you like criollos from Mexico?
Because they are big boned, large footed horses that have been used on ranches all their lives. They know their jobs and make great ranch or trail horses for our clients.
What brand is your saddle? 😍
I would assume it is one of his. Check out his website.
www.thedisciplinedride.com/saddle
Will you help me find a horse?
There are no problem horses, only problem riders ..
Will you give me a job I'm willing to learn
NO you haven’t connected to the discomfort and pain that bit causes the horse
The pain was caused by the MISUSE of the bit.
Former rider.
cc So you think you know how to ride..... The "ugly" mate is the monster saddle, bridle and bitt....Try some FREE RIDING..You'll soon know if you have a truely innate ability to ride without compromising the wellbeing of the horse..... There's your challenge..Mr & Mrs Puckett
My least favorite comments come not from people interested in learning something and exchanging different methods of training but who think they have it all figured out and choose to keep their minds closed. These people are generally emboldened by the anonymity of the internet. Saddles have been developed to spread the weight of the rider across a larger area and make carrying weight easier on the horse, bridles and bits of the type we use enable communication. Horses like the one in this video have been ridden incorrectly and, as the title of the video indicates, have to relearn how to respond to the hands, legs, and seat of the rider. “Free riding” as you suggest might be fine for meandering around an enclosed space but try doctoring a sick cow with no bridle or saddle and send me the video. I’ll wait.
@@PatnDebPuckett 👏👏👏 Bravo Mate @ thanks remaining the calm and courteous coach we respect and trust. Its very hard at times but i do blv in thou shalt not kill. I also thank heaven for the gift of marksmanship. What these self appointed judges blv in is enough to get them all shot one day as i see it. Cheers mate we 👏👏👏 yr example @ wisdom. Oh and Humanity 👍 Pharlap bless 🐎🐎🐎🇭🇲🇭🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Why bust on the dressage people?
This guy busts on everyone. Get used to it, lol
Why do you even need such a leverage bit?? At least some of your viewers will see this, put such a bit on and pull their poor mouth around with terrible pain
The ugliest thing is that huge shank bit you've got in your horse's mouth. The amount of torq applied to his jaw is so painful of course he can't listen to you.
It’s hard to watch with that terrible bit.This style of riding is outdated ,better methods available.