Anthony Joshua Wins Super Heavyweight Boxing (+91kg) Gold - London 2012 Olympics
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Full replay from the ExCeL - South Arena 2 as Team GB's Anthony Joshua defeats Italy's Roberto Cammarelle to win the men's super heavy +91kg boxing gold medal at the London 2012 Olympic Games (12 August 2012).
Boxing made its Olympic debut at the 1904 Games in St Louis, since then boxing has been staged at each edition of the Games, except in 1912 in Stockholm, owing to Swedish law, which forbade the practice.
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I tried so hard to be impartial as an Englishman but those judges must have been terrified that they wouldn't leave the arena alive so they gave it to Joshua for the sake of their families. Cammarelle clearly won.
+Sea Of Sin This isn't Snatch son.
The real truth is they were told to he has been ear marked by the government to win they love a immergrant superstar also the main reason Fury has had such a hard time they wouldn't want a white guy from UK as the poster boy shame and disgusting at the same time.
@@powerranger9293 Very true. Madness really when you think about it.
@@powerranger9293 A Irish Traveler is not wanted as the poster boy in U.K.
@@powerranger9293 AJ was born in watford. and if all you got is "hurrr he foreign still" then so is fury. you dribbly mess
the italian was amazing
Thank you
The Italian was Robbed
Robbery
Amazing? Are you out of your mind? It was a lackluster fight between two slow and overweight boxers, both of which were desperately lacking in technique, and cardio. Their footwork was absent. They were loading up on shots, and a lot of those shots were missing, wildly. They were exhausted after a mere 3 rounds. If you think either of these fighters are amazing, then you set yourself a low bar. 3 round Olympic fights are a tease, and that's the extent of Cammarelle boxing career. I have a hard time taking any fighter seriously, that also happens to be a full grown man
beating up on young amateurs. He's basically a career amateur. That's one of the problems I see with boxing programs in countries with certain socialized sports, like Italy. It's that way in Cuba as well, but at least the Cubans know how to box. Moreover, the best of them make an effort to go pro, doing so at great risk. On the other hand, Robert Cammarelle could easily turn pro, with far less hurdles to jump. He could test himself his mettle in a 12 round fight, but instead, he going to gripe about a "robbery" which was actually much closer than he would like to admit.
He got robbed
I like AJ as a pro but the other guy won fairly clearly. If this wasn't in London he absolutely would've lost. I hate seeing this stuff especially in the Olympics.
I agree with you..It was really disgusting!
Jeremy the judges weren’t British, Olympic boxing has judges from outside countries so there’s no bias
Daniel Robinson And you actually believe that? 😂
Decisions in amateur boxing, even in the Olympics are usually very bad. It's not just a London hometown decision problem.
@@maxsorrentino206 cmon it was close i had aj losing to saving but he won this fight
Cammarelle was an amazing talent
I was surprised at first seeing AJ winning. But later I remembered it was in UK. Probably that is the only explanation of the final score.
not really, bad decisions happen all the time
@@ObeseGorilla229 They could still be bought off or something, but who knows..
Cammarelle is the champion!!
Tony K I know he should be gold but who is unified right now
@@haha4893 who cares Cammarelle won that fight!
Cammarelle hai vinto🦁Onore e gloria💪🥊🔝Grande performance
A distanza di anni il mondo ricorda ancora il tuo incontro e difende il vero campione olimpionico dei pesi massimi di pugilato:
Roberto Cammarelle.
Forse la più grande truffa sportiva alla luce del sole di sempre
Imagine if Cammarelle went pro he could have been a beast
Ikr
He was 32 here though, already at his prime. He should of turned pro after he won his gold in 2008. Don't know why he stayed in the Olympics.
@@jolleyolley1204 It's because he was in the "The Gruppo Sportivo Fiamme Oro" , which is the sport section of the Italian police force "Polizia di Stato". They don't allow boxers to go pro, you can only fight in the Olympics. Unless you leave the group/quit your job
@@TheMascheraNera He is police? Wow. How could he find time? this is inspiring.
@@kartalpencesi4950 reality is that they don't work as police men, they dedicate their time to their sport.
If that fight happened anywhere else besides London, Cammarelle would have won the gold. Outright robbery!
Um...just no...doesn't matter where it's held, the points system doesn't change.
Lol you obviously don't know much about olympic boxing. Tell that to Roy Jones Jr, he was blatantly robbed in Korea 1988 final, they gave the decision to the Korean he fought who even admitted himself that he didn't win the fight, Roy Jones dominated him but still lost because he was an American fighting a Korean in Korea.
+TheBlackDelorian well, I didn't think fixing was that blatant, dayum, something needs to be done about that😂
True lol, it's been ridiculous in the past, just don't be surprised if some unknown Brazilian super heavyweight picks up gold this year haha
@@aaronhinton3446 it's awfull trust me
Would have loved to have Cammarelle turning pro. He was a beast!
На тот момент он уже был стар.
Roberto Cammarelle is an underrated italian pride, such a classy athlete and great boxer, shameful decision by the way
Roberto Cammarelle is winner
I counted the punches and I had it 18-18.
Nah the Italian clearly won, this whole thing was a set up. It wasn't even that close
lol, u fool it was a close fight, nothongs set up
Cammarelle wan for sure, but the difference was not huge
Yar1804 How Italian never win
I'm British and was cheering on Joshua but felt he lost. He shouldn't have been in the final anyway as Savon clearly beat him. Home town decisions happen every Olympics and we are very bad for it here in the professional bouts.
Yes, sometimes it happens
Richard Richard I felt he made a nice comeback. It's points and that last round he stole with points. They weren't the hardest or fanciest. His opponent was too tired to not show the light punches that hit him.
This final was a close fight yes, but the quarter final wasn't, Savon was robbed.
Richard Richard he got no skills he realise alot on is power
Richard Richard its so funny now look at aj now.........
I'm surprised no one used this and the Savón bout as material in a press conference yet.
Who’s here after Joshua beat Ruiz
Reustur man he improved so much as a boxer looking back at this fight
I don't get joshua he is soo like bipolar I guess. He says tyson's fight against klitchko hit and run was boring and saying he doesn't respect that type of fighting........but then AJ tries doing the same thing...not just to a guy his own size but to a short stocky doughnut that put on an extra stone. Like THAT is what you call boring. Not only that he was jabbing and grabbing for a lot of the fight 😂😂😂. Tyson fury doesn't just hit and run...he hits rearranging the facial features of the opponent and doesn't get hit by keeping distance. AJ what an idiot seriously lol.
@@d-d-d-daam5375 no one asked
No im here because I like watching amateur boxing..
@@d-d-d-daam5375 if you support English boxing in anyway you'll appreciate what Joshua did was class! What's wrong with "jabbing and grabbing"? He's gone into that ring to win the belts he won back, not to have a scrap just to please a few people. If you understand boxing in any way you'll know that his performance showing a different side to his boxing, light on his feet and the speed of his shots at the weight he is, just shows what a good boxer he is!
I like Joshua but he clearly lost here. The judges in the olympics are always laughable...
The decision is understandable. Joshua was pretty sloppy here
John Benjamin AJ clearly lost the fight. Let's be honest, c'mon!
correct
Iron Fist boxe
wow this mach was a big fight but remember that the referee cant on Puente Anthony Joshua is a boxer
Im british.. and this is a blatent robbery. No hate for AJ whatsoever... but he lost this bout.. 2 rounds to 1. Unlucky for the Italians.
olympic boxing is not scored on rounds.... so, your concept of 2 rounds to 1 clearly indicates that you do not grasp that. The total points for each round are simply added together...result..18 to 18. a draw. So, the rule is, countback comes into play.
+John Hylton fair point I stand corrected.. but everyone knows who won really won that.
Thirdeyebeing I have watched the fight through twice....and although it is close, perhaps there is a little favoritism...there is little between them...but tell me, which country has ever hosted the olympics and not done the same. Life isnt fair, bankers robbed the whole world.....that is a much bigger cheat to be worried about. Its history, it has happened before and it will happen again in every olympics...and every world cup football competition too. Big money is at stake and you expect fairness...how about politics?
Thirdeyebeing don’t take away his silver medal that’s no small thing
@@MrTidymark He lost on the way here too watch previous rounds
To be honest I am Nigerian of which Joshua's parents are and I live in the UK so obviously I would support Joshua in a fight with any other boxer who is not Nigerian and British but to be fair and honest Joshua lost the fight! Call a spade a spade!
i couldnt care if you was his brother, he won the fight got the medal. but imo it certainly was no robbery, it was 50/50. AJ lost the 1st won the 3rd, middle rd was anybodys.
@@SuperChalkster AJ didn’t even deserve to make it to the final, he lost to Savon in the Round of 16
Is this a joke? I saw the title and by the third round I assumed Joshua got a late KO. This is absolute filth, shame on those judges and shame on the Olympic organisation for having them.
Bravo for true!
yeah near the end i was thinking “when is this ko coming” and it never came
Camarelle won this fight!!!!!
That's entirely correct... except for the bit about him winning
The Italian Won this Fight
Yeah that's why they played God save the queen afterwards cos everyone knows that's the Italian national anthem
+Matthew Jeffs Fair play for going through this comments section taking potshots at 3 (that I counted) highly upvoted comments by different users all agreeing that this was a poor decision by the judges and that Camarelle should have won. I especially liked how you didn't try to contribute to any actual discussion about boxing. Keep up the good work.
I'm English and I agree joshua lost this fight
yep that is home olympics judging for you. But Joshua would no doubt win a re-match now.
Kelly Ricketts of
sweet, they mentioned klitschkos name lol
Boxing Physique wow you must have been unknown then with only 7 like if you commented something like this now on a new video you’d get a lot of likes
are you gonna clickbait this too?
@@ACTIONmaintain dude this is 3 years old
Click bait
@@abdulimran3478 lol
I remember in 2012 thinking AJ lost watching it live but after watching it back here it’s a robbery, not even by a small margin
AJ won other dude missed a lot
i would say... Cammarelle won without a doubt
А. В. Aj won💯
@@addyybrown4661 ahah
AJ lost round 1, won round 3,
And round 2 could go either way.
Cammarelle was the real winner!😂😂😂😂 What a robbery!
It wasn't a robbery becoz you don't understand boxing idiot and how did he became the world heavy weight champion in different country's and and has ONLY one lost
@@blackking6803 Because corrupt judges are a thing. Joshua lost this fight.
AJ lost round 1, won round 3,
And round 2 could go either way.
@@iforgor7883 you obviously don’t know anything about boxing. I’m Italian and it’s clear Joshua won
You are either blind or delusional...watch the 3rd round...8 points for 4/5 punches (and I am being generous)....disgraceful...
16:15 i feel ya anthony
Знал что он победил, но бой посмотрел только что, по раундам 2:1 Итальянец победил, Джошуа не чемпион, если судить объективно
Итальянца ограбили как всегда Англичане своём репертуаре Джошуа не выиграл бой
Посмотрел этот бой после пиздюлины Антохе. Оказывается чемпион липовый то! 🤔
@@user-xm6bk2op2k сумма очков 15-17 в пользу Джошуа, чисто из-за 3 раунда вытащил бой
blyat I mean what?
wooow. it wasnt even THAT close to the draw as it was Italian's victory. he dominated the fight. weird result.
Olympic boxing is scored completely differently that pro boxing.
Daniel Robinson keep telling yourself Joshua won, it’s quite clearly a robbery and I have nothing against Joshua, he’s a great champion but he lost twice in the olympics. It’s clear they made him win so he would be marketable when he became pro
@@gabrielsteffensen3700 this is the 2012 Olympics in London if it’s not a landslide victory then aj will obviously win
@@Daniel_Robinson in England sure
The winner is Roby Roberto Cammarelle !!!!!!!!!!!!!
+GARA ITALIA i.p. you say that because you are italian ??
GARA ITALIA S.r.l.
I agree
You say the opposite because you are english? ...cause the rest of the world say Cammarelle won this fight.
GARA ITALIA S.r.l. Hhh
Who is here after todays fight
Cammarelle is a great boxer. He was even a decent match to our Roman Romanchuk.
The Italian won
Yeah you can tell he won because he stood on the winners podium and was awarded a gold medal whilst they played the national anthem in his honor.....oh no wait a minute
He never said anything that was wrong you cleary don't understand what a robbery is just because you probably only watch boxing when joshua is fighting because you want to see a ko doesn't mean you know anything at all about boxing this was a robbery and if you don't think then your delusional
Yes John, absolutely!
You lying
@@jamessweeney6910 Mate you're saying you could do better at judging the fight then the people that do it for a job? I bet you work at mcdonalds shut the fk up you little freak 😂
it's nice to see how Joshua has come on as a boxer since the olympics.
He has come on leaps and bounds with his training camp as he is more diciplined and definately not as irratic picking his shots these days.
If he carries on the way he is I can see him becoming a heavyweight hall of fame boxer and after watching his interview footage, with the right guidance and camp around him, I cannot see him not achieving this accolade in the future.
curios what you think 10 years on.
AJs stock has gone up and down so much that it’s hard to confidently put him down as Hall of Fame material just yet, although if he can solidify his legacy and take the belt off the Fury/Usyk champ then he could be knocking on the door
Fantastic starts for AJ
👊🇹🇿🇳🇬🇬🇧
Happy birthday Joshua
Here’s a gold medal for you 🥇
he won just because the Olympics were in London.
And still he won klitchko number times world champion heavy weight of the world, is the italic could do it?nneee even if he won joshua towards
RoniMUsicoffical wow that’s some command of the English language
Yes, off corse
@@raffaeleberti9985 I like the way we all saw this comment way too late
Not even... the judges were paid off
the italian guy clear win the fight , corrutep uk decision , this is garbage
All judges from other countries
funny thing is non of the judges were from the UK or even close to the UK
@Jeff Brown you mean americans
Were is all the corruption now AMERICA
@Michael Keep speaking our language and strengthening the fact that you are below us scumbag 😂😂
Living Legend
All you haters should know he had only been boxing for 4 years and the man won a gold medal.. gold speaks for itself
That statement made absolutely no sense
The italian won this fight!
U MAD BRO!
no bro :) it's my opinion :D
Neamtu Vlad
He's a good fighter no doubt, And mabye he will will gold in two years. Never know do you.
Of course.
London 2012 olympics.... bullsh!@#t Italian won this fight 4fun!
Very very close but AJ edged it on what seems cleaner shots from a solid base. No issues with that win. Solid basics for that weight IMO
I fw the Italians style 🔥🔥
Losing style 😁
@@Genevasplaytime Being robbed style
@@Genevasplaytime in England sure ...in every other part of the world win this medal.
AJ been doing wonders for years.
The Italian's reaction @ 15:34 lets you know who HE thought won the fight
@Henry Okoro He knew the scores before the last and maybe based on that he was unsure. If you look at the whole fight its still a clearly bad decision as the shouldve been up by more than 3 before the 3rd. I mean honestly he couldve been up by the double and still lost on countback so it didnt rly matter. AJs olympic path was set before the tournament started.
@@willeg1122 a lot of his shots weren't clean and were missed
@@brianhanes5413 Whilst a lot of Joshua's shots... Wait, where they are? 🤔🤷🏻♂️
this fight was fixed by britain mafia
Prashant Hariharan What British mafia?
bodhid Just like Sicilian Mafia but instead of a godfather they have a guv'nah. Instead of thugs, they have chavs. Instead of eating spaghetti before whacking their rival families, they drink tea before they clubbing rival football fans. Instead of shouting "fugedaboutit!" they shout "y'wot mate?"
llenradify so when video game Mafia 3 coming for ps4 , ps3 whatever ??
***** I am an Aussie amateur boxer and I am pretty familiar with AIBA rules so yeah, you missed big time, dumbass.
***** Wow... The dumbassery is strong in this one. You said I am American. That is way out of targert cause I'm Aussie. You talked about AIBA rules as if I don't know it but I do because I myself compete in amateur bouts.
16:07 Joshua's hand was raised before it was announced which corner had won
@Ross B no....Josh didn't raise his own hand..the ref raises it for him
Yes blatant home decision.
Femi lost against Savon in the London Olympics also.
Amazing video!
I can't believe! Cammarelle was robbed big time! It's outragious!
There's a diffrence between a close fight and a robbery. Joshua edged it JUST.
Whatch a real robbery like Helenius - Chisora or Lewis Holyfield 1 then come back ;)
@@carl-adampersson5939 or fury v wilder 1 lol fury won 9 rounds to wilder 3 yet still a draw
Italian won this fight
He 's better fighter
And look at Aj now
@@chrispage8738 cammarelle is 40 s now, sooooo
Yeah his 40 but he was never pro on his 20s
Cammarelle was a pure class fighter
14:43 just look at joshuas corner and cammarelles corner, even they know joshua had lost
Le robaron el oro a Italia...
After watching this several times now, I have to say Cammarelle won this fight for me. Very close, but Roberto just nicked it.
love how this is recommended after his win over pulev
Roberto Cammarelle Medaglia d'oro 2012
Joshua well deserved to win , the trouble with the Olympics its only 3 round - Johsua would have stopped him on 6 in the real game mark my words on this date - he will be World heavyweight Champion in the next 3 years
Joshua??? ?buahuuahhauhuahuahuahuahuahuuahhuauhahu XD XD
I think Joshua would have won over 6 rounds....but didnt win in 3 which was tactical. Cammarelle was robbed here
Laugh all you want but he will be champion and you will have egg on your face. You bitter little toad.
Paul Jones and now he's beaten klitscho haha
It's by points which can be scored by head or body shots, as well as knock downs. Joshua scored 3 points in the last round more than the Italian. You may be able to find the exact rules on the official olympics page.
LEGENDA
Can't believe this was already 10 years ago.
This guy has heart to fight like a lion.Good role model for kids in a street
A robben victory like many in these olympics
Boxing is often a discipline where the organizing country received 'free' medals
The reaction of the GB trainers said it all. they were surprised by the gift
mate you clearly dont watch much sports do you
Italian should of get gold 100%
AJ The Olympic Champ 🔥💪🥊
UK cheated....Camarelle beat that guy. I wonder how does that guy feel knowing he did not win fairly.
Was a clear win for Joshua.
how can the uk cheat???the four judges scoring the bout are from different countrys to the uk.
Nobody cheated. Judges ruled. It was in 2012 UK, not early 80's cold war USSR or USA. Now if you want to talk about cheating at the olympics. Have a look at USA, China, Russia, Korea. Watch Roy jones in his olympic final and you will see real cheating.
Jason Chatto Yes i remeber that fight! Nardiello and Jones were robbed!! jesus what a shame!
Jason Chatto man is the same thing. They robbed Dhyskco, Savon and Cammarelle. Make the hooligan if you want. But you would have to listen what the AM boxers said all the times about these Olympic games (not only for this division)
Anyone who thinks Joshua should not have won is deluded. It's based on clear hits. The Italian did not land enough punches. He was 3 points clear going into the last round. Clear British victory.
Remembered this performance live.
Just watched this fight for the first time. I think I can now better understand how Joshua seemed to totally run out of gas against Klitschko at about round 4. He recovered of course, but at one point I thought he had gone. As for the Olympics fight it looked fairly even, but Joshua had some better combinations. The Italian fighter did not look convinced he had won anyway.
Go asleep
What an amazing sport Cammarelle was in defeat.
Whenever you feel that this fight undermines Joshua's talent and potential, just remember that Roberto Cammarelle was an olympic medalist 4 years before Joshua ever walked into a boxing gym and put on his first pair of gloves. Consider also, that Joshua beat Cammarelle 1 year prior to this olympic bout as well at the WC. Speaks volumes for me.
Rowan Williams i wonder Why Cammarelle never turned pro?
Sorry for the long delay' seems strange that he would want to stay an amateur? not as much money an not as much prestige as aprofessional heavyweight :)
He was robbed twice against mr.juice head!
I'm Italian and I don't care about the medal, I feel proud for having such a great atlete in our country
Anthony is amaizing
If this was pro match the Italian would have won. Olympic scoring system no good.
No he would not, because Joshua warmed into the fights as it went on. If it was a pro fight, Joshua would have KO'd him in the 5th or 6th.
+James Browne he is obviously talking about if this was a 3 round pro match. because he is comparing the scoring systems.
Having any sport decided by judges is asking for trouble whether amateur or professional. There will undoubtedly be human errors and corruption at times. Olympic boxing shouldnt be decided by people. It should be measured properly somehow and the one with the most landed punches wins, simple as that. Having said that I believe this fight was a very close call and could have gone either way. Joshua beat cammarelle the previous year in another close fight.
AJ would knock this italian out in the pro fights...Easily...where is this italian boxer now...he works in a sasauge factory in palermo.
telephonic And where are you now? Writing a comment in CZcams, piece of shit😂
lol the italian is very good
They have a strong pedigree of amateur boxers actually
Stay hungry
Stay humble ~
Grazie Roberto che cuore
Whos here right before aj vs ruiz 2
Round 1: Italy
Round 2: Split
Round 3: GB
Remember, the Olympics isn't about who looks best or most likely or judges preferred style, but scoring shots and over all it was quite even throughout the fight. That's why even going into to last round there was only 3 points difference.
Olympic is about clean shot that is why he is improving every day with clean shot
I'm fan of Joshua ,but this time i have to say he won my village and schoolmate Cammarelle.Ciao.
Wait... so you're telling me that because Joshua is from the UK and the Olympics were in the UK so the judges favored him?? No way! That never happens.
This left a sickening taste in my mouth Absolute robbery aj went in to last rd 3 points down and was lucky if he drew the last rd. This was after.getting an outrageous win against Savon. British comintators always a disgrace . This should have been a unanimous victory for italy
gerry o reilly British commentators a disgrace? Why because there rooting on there fellow Englishman? Not a single judge who judged the fight was British💨
This obviously never EVER happens in other countries right? It wasn't as if this was an onslaught by the italian, maybe he was slightly better but thats why it was a draw with the end result going to the better man, the man who is now one of the best boxers in the world today. Where is this..."italian" now? Probably helping his dad make some pizza.
He did win the last round by a wide margin jabs don't count and punches must be made with the face and the punch must be made with the white part of the glove
Amazing video
Respect to the Italian
Joshua Wins? whereeeeeeeeeeeeee
are these Olympic Games or boxing mafia match?
pathetic decision, the italian was the winner, london mafia...
Amazing 👏👏👏👏
Beating someone with way more experience than you is a crazy feat. Congratulations Aj
Amount of people who don’t understand how Olympic boxing works 😂
Lewis Price British rightfully won in your opinion?
IL verdetto e' stato di parità,e questo sarebbe scandaloso perché Cammarelle aveva vinto chiaramente,ma e' stata data la preminenza al pugile britannico.Gli inglesi si sono dimostrati poco corretti e questo mi dispiace perché lo ritenevo un popolo di alta sportivita'.Verdetto scandaloso disonorevole per la Gran Bretagna.E' chiaro che gli arbitri hanno subito pressioni.
Lo stile di cammarelle è orribile e non eficace, io non l'ho visto vincere un round
Non sono d'accordo, Cammarelle non mi è piaciuto per niente, e non capisco chi si ostina a dire che il verdetto sia ingiusto, perché guardandolo per la prima volta non mi sorge neanche lontanamente il dubbio che il verdetto fosse sbagliato.
@@andreamarconi9103 questo perché di pugilato ci capisci poco e niente ;-)
@@mattiabeltrame4175 allora insegnami ti prego, mi trovi alla pugilistica macerata
@@andreamarconi9103 volentieri, appena passo per di là (-: se tu passi in zona Friuli invece avvisami bello!
Who would like to see these two fight sometime this year or in general
Straight up humble
ridiculous...
Even first round, dominant second by the italian and i think Joshua just edges the third. Overall the Italian was the better fighter but Joshua clearly showed a lot of raw potential, which is proven by the fact Joshua is now a world champion.
He's had 17 undefeated Pro fights so far, and he won all by knockout. That has to say something.
how on earth was that first round even?
he is all hype right now and will only be taken seriously when he stops figting other overweight out of shape gypsies, builders and taxi drivers!!!!!!
Dillian Whyte did a pretty good job. Even though Breazeale made it to round 7, he was more of a punching bag. I'd like to see him box against Deontay Wilder. Let's have that match first, and then we'll see if he's as good as most of us think he is.
It's not judged by rounds in amateur duh🙄
Grande Roberto!!
What a pop for Joshua
Im not even sure if Joshua won 1 round in this fight. Pure Robbery Joshua got Outclassed and easily outboxed. What a shame, Italian Clearly Won.
cammarelle was the winner
What a spectacle!
The Italian had been in the amateurs for yrs I remember David price fighting in the Beijing Olympics 08 and he was established camarello
simply ridicoulus