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Komentáře • 264

  • @scholaire
    @scholaire Před 4 lety +14

    i love this guitar, and especially in this finish!

  • @jameshodonicky4329
    @jameshodonicky4329 Před 4 lety +11

    David, i recently purchased a 2011 les paul. And mind you following all your guidelines, which i apply to all my guitar setups, which are only guidelines, my guitars rock. On the new purchase i did have to raise the tailpiece on the high E side a bit to clear the bridge. Not a fan of the overwrap. Guitar intonation balls on, stays in tune. Well said in this video. Your videos make a bowl of popcorn more enjoyable. Thank you brother, be safe and keep rockin!!

  • @yestoES355
    @yestoES355 Před 4 lety +21

    Learned so much from you Dave. Love your videos and honesty. Hope all is well man

  • @davidtexmex1616
    @davidtexmex1616 Před 4 lety +6

    Still the best guitar teacher on CZcams, brilliant learning curve 👏🏻

  • @stonehartfloydfan
    @stonehartfloydfan Před 4 lety +19

    Note from a person who teaches physics... Dave is correct... listen to Dave ....!!!

    • @dickr9345
      @dickr9345 Před 4 lety +2

      A cat named coffee who teaches physics....2020 is a crazy year to be alive!

    • @1040ecapja
      @1040ecapja Před 4 lety +1

      Friction at the saddle is affected by the break angle. It's what keeps a string from gliding freely in the saddle. The only way to remove said friction is using a material with a friction coefficient of zero... or reducing the y-axis component of tension at the saddle to 0 which would mean no break angle, but then no pressure on saddles, no vibration transfer to bridge, lame tone (think jazzmaster.)

    • @Rick-uu5yo
      @Rick-uu5yo Před 4 lety +1

      No about "stretching" yes about top wrap. As stated in other responses, bending a string is making it longer between the two fixed points, the very definition of stretching. I love Dave but he is not an expert in physics.

    • @bobross5580
      @bobross5580 Před 4 lety

      He should stop trying to teach. The whammy spring issue is nauseating, once a spring is engaged is the issue he flutters past. Now he is playing licks ;)

    • @scottchild4233
      @scottchild4233 Před 4 lety

      @@Rick-uu5yo " bending a string is making it longer "- truth

  • @Riverdeepnwide
    @Riverdeepnwide Před 4 lety +10

    The only thing Dave recommends wrapping is a sammich for later.

  • @pierrederesistance
    @pierrederesistance Před 4 lety +6

    You can argue all you like about physics, the FEELING of how much effort is required to bend a string changes hugely when you raise and lower the bridge. What's happening is irrelevant, how it feels is important

  • @stereoroid
    @stereoroid Před 4 lety +19

    The last time I was this early, Les Paul was playing a Les Paul.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember Před 4 lety +2

      If you were early, he'd still play Epiphone before being pestered to act as a figurehead duo with his wife.

    • @paulfrombrooklyn5409
      @paulfrombrooklyn5409 Před 4 lety +1

      Who cares, you self-centered asshole.

    • @ryanfulldark2775
      @ryanfulldark2775 Před 4 lety

      onpsxmember Pestered him by handsomely paying him and succumbing to his every whim?🤔

  • @richardwalley2862
    @richardwalley2862 Před 3 lety +2

    It does change the feel when you move it up and down ...try it

    • @andrewandrew3713
      @andrewandrew3713 Před 7 měsíci

      Thats what im saying, you got to be a player to feel these things, non players say its bs, but ill let you decide on that
      Ps: i mean a real player, one who tries to do it as a profession

  • @davidlacroix6769
    @davidlacroix6769 Před 4 lety +21

    Dave must be bored. He sure is in the teaching mode today.

  • @somebodyelseuk
    @somebodyelseuk Před 4 lety +5

    The stopbar thing. The difference itDOES make is the vertical pressure on the bridge unit. On aluminium cast bridges, it is common for older units to have sagged under the pressure where the bar is screwed down.
    All the stories - tone tension etc - are bollocks.
    And the string DOES strech when you bend it, and it contracts again when you release it. Easily proved on a headless bass. Measure the string length. Bend the string and get someone to measure the two lengths between your finger and each end of the string. Add em together, its longer. Thats how elasticity works.

  • @pjm329
    @pjm329 Před 4 lety +13

    The strings are stretching when you bend. Then they spring back. If they didn't stretch, the neck would visibly bow with each bend. The strings do slide in the saddles and nut slots. More at the nut and very little at the bridge. If the strings bind, there will be tuning issues. Properly lubed and filed saddles and nut slots will cure tuning issues. Any tuning issues at the bridge will probably not be cured by top wrapping alone. I had issues on one of my Les Pauls, and tried top wrapping and it didn't help much. A light touch with nut slot files did the trick.

    • @donharrold1375
      @donharrold1375 Před 4 lety +1

      In reality when you bend a string two things happen. The main effect is that the tension in the string increases, otherwise there would be no increase in pitch. The other thing that happens is that the string elastically deforms; in other words the string slightly increases in length. Nickel steel is ductile and it performs essentially identically to a rubber band when tension is applied (obviously it’s elasticity is much less than rubber). When a high E string is tuned to concert pitch it has a tension of roughly 13lbs. That induces a very high stress in the string and the string stretches and increases it’s length by roughly 4mm. The additional length is wrapped around the post of the tuner. Further increases in tension due to normal bending probably causes the string to deform by a fraction of a millimetre.

    • @eddiejr540
      @eddiejr540 Před 4 lety +1

      Agreed...if strings didnt move why would we stretch them to begin with??...daves just a little confused!!

    • @dirface
      @dirface Před 3 lety

      You're missing the scope at 09:40 where he refers to the string not stretching over its full length. He never clearly said it's not stretching at any point, it's just not supposed to stretch between the bridge and the tailpiece as said at 09:54

    • @jamesfetherston1190
      @jamesfetherston1190 Před 3 lety

      @@eddiejr540 They aren’t stretching, you are simply seating the ball end, and tightening the wind at the tuner.

  • @RubbelisPro
    @RubbelisPro Před 4 lety +8

    I did the top wrap thing for a while too, stupid idea. Every luthier I took my SG to told me not to do it. Haven't top wrapped my strings since. It didn't make much of a difference anyway lol.

  • @Grumpyoldman60
    @Grumpyoldman60 Před 4 lety +2

    I have a Jimmy Page commemorate addition Les Paul with an over rapped bridge. I've been playing since I Was 12 Years old, and
    I'm 69 now, and I like it that way. thanks for the video.

  • @PainterDans
    @PainterDans Před 3 měsíci

    Wow, thanks Dave, never new that was a bass solo

  • @JeremySmith23
    @JeremySmith23 Před 3 lety +1

    While I’m no physicist, I can feel when strings play lighter or tighter. This leads me to believe there must be more to the break angle discussion than just string tension for a given pitch. If I had to guess, different break angles changes the elasticity of the strings dead area (between bridge and stop bar) thereby changing the strings effective (or players perspective) elastic length. At a steep angle, the string feels more like the length from nut to bridge, as you decrease the angle, the string starts to feel more like nut to to stop bar. You are gaining the elasticity from the dead area.

  • @C2ARNY85
    @C2ARNY85 Před 3 lety +1

    I had a hard time figuring out what's the best truss rod setting for me for couple of years! There's a lot of conflicting information if you're trying to learn this stuff of of youtube, trying to save money😄. Straighter necks never worked for me. Somehow anything under 010" relief and my guitars loose on tone and I need to start raising action past 12th fret. Harmonics will be hard to get too. You live you learn..
    Appreciate the videos!
    Learned a lot 🤘

  • @glenndavis6793
    @glenndavis6793 Před 4 lety +2

    One of the greatest songs with bass lead in history you should do a different song ever so often I think it would be cool but you picked a good one love that song

  • @thepaulmacfarlane
    @thepaulmacfarlane Před 2 lety

    I switch out al my Tune Matics to roller bridges--solves every problem, better sustain bend all you want no string breaks on those wedge knife edges

  • @simondeeth9097
    @simondeeth9097 Před 4 lety +1

    I seem to remember reading somewhere that back in the day in the Gibson factory they set the string angle behind the bridge to be the same as the angle behind the nut.

  • @UzerneigmROSE
    @UzerneigmROSE Před 2 lety

    Dude you’re the shit! Your sense of humor is priceless. The myths like the tailpiece overwrap get really old. I just laugh now! Thanks!!

  • @DougFMcDermott
    @DougFMcDermott Před 4 lety +1

    Love the T-shirt Dave! Great pups and guitarist. Great message too Dave,”Be good to each other”

  • @geruto17760
    @geruto17760 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for your shoutout to Bill Lawrence :-)

  • @billm23456
    @billm23456 Před 4 lety +1

    If top wrapping is good enough for Billy Gibbons, it's good enough for me.

  • @KaptainCanuck
    @KaptainCanuck Před rokem

    I was impressed with the proper term used for the metal strips, AKA fretwires, and then it was ruined when the incorrect term, frets, was used for them.

  • @williamjacobs6327
    @williamjacobs6327 Před 4 lety +1

    Good episode tonight Dave. Makes me want to check the string angle on my Paul right now. Or maybe tomorrow. Really like the finish on this one tonight. Who thought a plain top could look so fabulous.

  • @nizodizo9549
    @nizodizo9549 Před 4 lety +1

    Every time I bring my SG to GC for set up they do a bang up job on it every time. All my non fancy guitars come back clean as a whistle but a set up still needs to be done.

  • @thrombaak7586
    @thrombaak7586 Před 3 lety

    Man... Thanks so much for this video! Just bought a new guitar (Les Paul, funnily enough), and wanting to try my hand at my own set up, as I need much thicker strings and a lower tuning. I've watched a bunch of other videos - as well as buying a book on the subject - and not a single one of them mention raising/lowering the stop bar, and avoiding having the strings touching the back of the bridge. This is another level of comprehensive... Great stuff. Thank you!

  • @henrycross8776
    @henrycross8776 Před 3 měsíci

    I can say with authority metal does stretch , either with tension or temp. Look up
    Youngs Modulus for the Elasticity of steel

  • @WayneWillems
    @WayneWillems Před 4 lety +1

    I can testify that raising the tailpiece does actually make the strings slinkier. Been doing it for years. No disrespect brother, Dave. Much love to you!

  • @Wargasm644
    @Wargasm644 Před 3 lety

    I keep a decent break angle on all my Les Pauls. I use Tw25b (military gun grease in a syringe applicator) on my nut and saddles. My Les Pauls hold tune as well as my Floyd equipped guitars with locking nuts. Once I discovered that Tw25b (on accident), I’ve never had tuning issues. Graphite, nut sauce, Vaseline, whatever. It’s all garbage. Tw25b is incredible. I discovered it at my buddy’s house. I was checking out some of his firearms. I was blown away how smooth they operated. I asked him what he uses. He gave me a syringe tube of the Tw25b. When I got home later I decided to change strings on my guitar. I decided to try that lube on my guitar. Never looked back. And because it’s a grease, it stays where you put it. Only takes a very tiny dab. 🤘🏻🇺🇸🤘🏻

  • @freshbread1190
    @freshbread1190 Před 4 lety

    I wrap my Les Paul to get the stop lower because I find that more comfortable. If I go through the holes it's jacked way up. I also have a JA90 Tele which I call the Lestercaster because it's a thinline tele shaped short scale, set neck, ABR bridge dual P90 that lets me drop the stop bar without wrapping the strings, so I don't. I can't say I notice a difference in either guitar set up either way in actual string playing, just how my hand sits at the bridge. Dave speaks truth, listen up people! ;)

  • @1x2x3xdk
    @1x2x3xdk Před 4 lety

    I could watch this forever....

  • @mlasch1478
    @mlasch1478 Před rokem

    Also, I love the Bill Lawrence shirt, MY first SG is a 1989 Special that has Bill Lawrence Circuitboard pickups in it.

  • @RadioMartyT1B
    @RadioMartyT1B Před 4 lety +5

    Dave's videos have me in a .... stranglehold.

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle Před 4 lety +1

      That' comment is a Nugget … or close to it !

    • @Axess-sv8nq
      @Axess-sv8nq Před 4 lety

      What, exactly, do you 'bass' that off of?

  • @timothymckane6362
    @timothymckane6362 Před 4 lety +1

    Love it or hate it, Dave is strumming out facts.

  • @larryburwell8550
    @larryburwell8550 Před 4 lety

    Dave, been waiting for this video for a year. the ultimate guitar, the great Dave setup. I have 3 Gibson Les Pauls, 76 Les Paul Standard Tobacco burst, has sunburst back and front and back of neck. 1981 Les Paul custom Cherry sunburst, and 1989 Les Paul Standard in Ebony. all have GHS boomer .009-.042s. they play great they sound great and not very often do I have to even tweek the trussrod. I never ever take all strings off, I change on string at a time starting with the high E and going up. I oil and clean frets under each string one at a time. never had a problem. a Les Paul is a work of art. thanks buddy look forward to next video. I gor my string height guage and all right where you want them. and you are right about back of string touching the back of the bridge. a huge nono. Larry

  • @Tree_Dee
    @Tree_Dee Před 4 lety +1

    I love a nice Les Paul in the afternoon.

  • @TheUlesifah82
    @TheUlesifah82 Před rokem

    I’m down here in Minot , North Dakota and I agree, the weather will change the wood ! Especially for us northerners ! Another great video Dave , beautiful LP as well…. Someday I’ll get myself a real Gibby but for now I have one of the Epiphone 50s standards and a firefly Goldtop. Both decent guitars for the money. As a living room Keith Richards wannabe i just can’t justify spending thousands on a guitar. Granted I have yet to put my hands on a real Gibson so idk what the feel and playability difference is ….

  • @Xpyburnt_ndz
    @Xpyburnt_ndz Před 4 lety +2

    Cool Bill Lawrence T-shirt Dave!

    • @Xpyburnt_ndz
      @Xpyburnt_ndz Před 4 lety

      @@DavesWorldofFunStuff Bill called me personally the last time I had pups ordered from him, been about 10+ yrs ago now...we talked over an hour on the phone...it was great! He was so far over my head and understanding it was laughable but I got a set I'll NEVER part with...they sound amazing!!! I built a "flying Paul"...kind of like a Marauder but with LP balls to the walls!!! Love it, but, but, but, I'm a bass player!!! LOL

  • @stevedenny3026
    @stevedenny3026 Před 4 lety +1

    The strings do stretch. They just don't exceed the elastic limit. That is they spring back.

  • @onpsxmember
    @onpsxmember Před 4 lety

    I can explain the different feel of the strings up to a point and you decide if you see it as BS and which particular point doesn't make sense to you. We distribute the increase of tension all along the length of the bent string, like to every link in a chain, mostly on the core of the string. We distribute that tension to three sections of the string in that configuration: The bit from the tuners to the nut, the bit between nut and the bridge saddles and the bit from the bridge to the ball ends. The steeper the break angle from the nut to the headstock and the more angle there is behind the bridge the more defined are the "fixed points" where the waves bounce back moving up and down the string. The steeper those two angles are, the more reluctant they are to change the tension in the outer sections to a certain degree until they have to. The way how the string reacts to the change of tension is slightly different while we end up with the same result. You can call it slightly altered longitudinal bending stiffness if you want it fancy. And some apparently argue that they can feel it, and as you know humans are good feeling with their fingertips. Every bump, every change in a surface and also changes in applied pressure or the way the curve feels while increase tension. Question is: Is it significant? Can we put 20 people to a double blind test if they can feel a difference only in the bending hand? For me, the wraparound is a last ditch effort to fix the problem with a too steep angle cause someone in the factory messed up. But initially it was just cheaper to sell the Les Paul Juniors that way. What the wraparound bridges with only adjustment at the posts do to intonation is another thing. I see it as a trend, some may feel it, others look for new mojo.
    Do you see more or less lifted/shifted posts with or without wraparound?
    Another approach to a lot of mojo:
    Guitar tech of a famous guitar player sees a problem part of the fix is visible, but something else (let's say pickup height) was slightly changed. The player loves his guitar and all his friends want to sound like him, so the visible change has to be on their guitar to believe in the change. The more something costs the more we also want to see and hear a difference based on our purchase, cause "didn't change a thing" would make us feel bad about the money we spent. Look! One of the bridge screws is missing...did he loose one or did he remove it to alter his tone? We don't have those tubes anymore but a boatload of those over there...5 minütes latör...discover the new XYZ sound, years of research brought us to this point!

  • @richardhall413
    @richardhall413 Před 4 lety +1

    Man I'm always a sucker for a good looking burst!

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle Před 4 lety

      I misread that as 'bust' first time … LoL

  • @SarcasticComments23
    @SarcasticComments23 Před rokem

    Beautiful guitar

  • @joemeyer6876
    @joemeyer6876 Před 4 lety +2

    Algorithm vs String Winder 🤣🎸 stranglehold baby!

  • @petergodwin3966
    @petergodwin3966 Před 2 lety

    David you and I have similar idea's on whatever ever happens to a string when bending a string, I like your hypothesis you and I think a lot a like and there are physics involved.

  • @motomoog
    @motomoog Před 3 lety

    Now I know I need to raise the stop bar on my brand new LP to clear the bridge. Thanks Dave. BTW I’m half Canadian Mom was born In Vancouver

  • @gravityalwayswins1434
    @gravityalwayswins1434 Před 4 lety

    Dave, you really got the BEST intros dude. And again...again..yup, again..killer outro playing. Man I love that line.

  • @HashiAkitaPuppy
    @HashiAkitaPuppy Před 4 lety

    For a given string gauge and scale length, the tension required for the string to be in tune is a set number, nothing happening beyond the nut or saddle will affect the tension needed to be in tune. It is simple physics. BTW, I top wrap my Les Pauls because I like the look and prefer the stop tail to be "decked", it absolutely does not have any impact on the amount of tension required to be in tune or make easier bends.

  • @eric_in_florida
    @eric_in_florida Před 4 lety +1

    Some of your best explaining Dave.

  • @flippinheck
    @flippinheck Před rokem

    Regards the top wrap, there are many reason they do it, but one reason was the neck angle was kinda hit and miss, so the strings would be touching the bridge and the tail stop woul have to be raised very high to stop this, I've seen a few cases when nearly 5/8 was the gap between the stop piece and body, enter the top wrap which also reduces the break angle which is always a good thing on any guitar, nothing wrong with top wrapping in my opinion and many famous guitarist use this method, for many reasons, I understand both sides of the argument but both methods are ok to me, I just explain why top wrapping came about if I'm asked to set one up that way, and how it will Marr the tail stop finish.

  • @DavideGranato
    @DavideGranato Před 4 lety

    I had probably a tiny portion of your experience in matter of Les Paul's, but I think should be needless to say you're one of the few humans on Earth explaining it right and straightforward. So my respects and regards to you , Dave. The "wrap-around" matter/solution is a thing only for those Gibson's which left the factory with a neck joint angled more than 4 degrees (steeper than normal production, sometimes even 5). T'was tolerated in the Norlin era (much better to rule the bridge as high as heaven than sending the guitar back to luthiers , read sarcasm.) and ONLY in that case wrapping strings around the stoptail was a thing. Could be kind of genial and zero costs , but was a solution only for 5% of Les Paul guitars.

  • @saintdamien8290
    @saintdamien8290 Před 2 lety

    Having the tail piece raised you will definitely feel a difference. Raise it up a good centimeter and you'll see.

  • @petedazer3381
    @petedazer3381 Před 4 lety

    Dave this was by far one of your top videos of all time. Thanks for turning it into a great learning tool! I feel a little less like your stress ball!

    • @Jah_Rastafari_ORIG
      @Jah_Rastafari_ORIG Před 4 lety

      @Peter Dazer What concerns me, is why the eardrums bulge out, yet the eyeballs _do not_ ... it'th a conthpirithy...!

  • @EdDanaGuitar
    @EdDanaGuitar Před 4 lety +3

    That is exactly like MY guitar! Nope.. this one is more red, mine is an ice tea burst. OOPS! Got my beverages confused... mine is Root Beer Burst!

  • @scottm121
    @scottm121 Před 4 lety

    That IS a nice one.. you can tell when they have nice sound with no amp.. and thankyou. I steward an R9 VOS and its steep from the bridge to the anchor.. but only contact on one place on bridge.. im good. Cheers ! From Victoria BC

  • @adamsappel
    @adamsappel Před 4 lety

    Great shirt! I have two sets of original Bill Lawrence Keystones in a Tele and a Strat.

  • @Drpiwi
    @Drpiwi Před 4 lety +1

    In a parallel universe Bill is wearing a DWOFS t-shirt ;-) And I like the way Dave has no mercy for the myth's and the snake oil that seems to be everywhere in the guitar world.

  • @roytofilovski9530
    @roytofilovski9530 Před 4 lety +2

    I think that the lower the stop bar the more tension you have on the string and the less slinky it is. Bending gets a bit harder.

    • @HashiAkitaPuppy
      @HashiAkitaPuppy Před 4 lety

      For a given string gauge and scale length, the tension required for the string to be in tune is a set number, nothing happening beyond the nut or saddle will affect the tension needed to be in tune. It is simple physics.

  • @richardlowe7962
    @richardlowe7962 Před 3 lety

    Thanks..Like what you do,Love to learn about the guitar set up.

  • @soapboxearth2
    @soapboxearth2 Před 3 lety +1

    steel has elasticity. when you bend a string it does actually stretch and it is measurable.
    the string is fixed at the nut and saddle, yes. it doesn't or shouldn't drag over the saddle and sadly it does slide through the nut a bit
    if you were to measure the length of a string from nut to saddle (shortest distance between 2 points) and then while bending the string , measure from nut to finger and from finger to saddle there will be a longer distance.so you do stretch the string , it just happens to spring back in place when you let go. the same thing happens every time you fret a note, to a smaller degree. this additional length is greater than the slippage through the nut**
    and top wrapping is the best way to string a les paul because Jimmy Page lol

    • @soapboxearth2
      @soapboxearth2 Před 3 lety

      p.S love your videos Dave!!

    • @mdavis2703
      @mdavis2703 Před 3 lety

      It's funny. I've looked at tons of live shots of Page's paul and I've never seen it top wrapped. I know his tele was a top loader maybe that's what everyone's talking about.

  • @Johntweety007
    @Johntweety007 Před 4 lety

    Another point is the greater the angle of the back creates more bind or tension at the bridge - like wrapping a rope around a peg. Good job like you said already.

    • @YouTubeHandlesAreMoronic
      @YouTubeHandlesAreMoronic Před 4 lety

      Friction, not tension.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver Před 11 měsíci

      @@CZcamsHandlesAreMoronic If the bridge height stays fixed when the stop bar raises, will distance decrease between the two?

  • @analogoutdoors
    @analogoutdoors Před 4 lety +4

    Overwrapping the tailpiece reduces the down force of the string at the saddle(or break angle over the saddle). IMHO), That IS tension. And there is less of an angle, and therefore less tension or break angle, from the fixed point at the peak of the saddle back to the tailpiece. I'm no physicist, but that's MHO.

    • @jonp3890
      @jonp3890 Před 4 lety +3

      Mike Baker I top wrapped mine, too, for the first time recently, and, somewhat surprisingly to me, it definitely made a difference.

    • @YouTubeHandlesAreMoronic
      @YouTubeHandlesAreMoronic Před 4 lety +1

      You're conflating tension with downward force on the bridge. Downward force can be increased by increasing the break angle. At the same tuning pitch, break angle does NOT affect string tension. In regards to Dave's comments, obviously strings have elasticity, and DO stretch. If they didn't, bending notes would be impossible. When they DON'T return to pitch after a note bend, it's because either A) you've exceeded the strings elasticity and have permanently stretched the string, or B) the string is binding in the nut or bridge slots. Very simple. Think about this logically; If strings did NOT slide over the nut & bridge, it would be impossible to bring the strings up to pitch using the tuners. Once up settled in at pitch, however, sliding movement across the bridge saddles is negligible on a LP because of the short afterlength. (It's a more significant issue on guitars with long tailpiece afterlengths, like Jazzmasters.) On a LP, almost all of that sliding is going to occur at the nut, where the afterlength is much greater. This is why strings 3 & 4 are more problematic at returning to pitch, they have the most potential for movement due to the longer afterlengths. And yes, top-wrapping is stupid. (Because you can achieve the same resulting shallow break angle by simply raising the stopbar posts. It's why they're adjustable.)

    • @stringsattached67
      @stringsattached67 Před 4 lety

      Eh it puts wear on top of the finish of the stop piece and looks like shit 🤷 and does nothing for the sound or playability IMHO ..

    • @Joe-mz6dc
      @Joe-mz6dc Před 4 lety

      I like Dave and I think he's right most of the time, but there are times when he says things that are just not true. My honest opinion about the overwrap is that on some guitars it can actually work very well. I tested it on my Les Paul and it didn't make much of a difference so I went back to the standard technique. When tested it on my ES-335 it made an astounding difference in the tension (strings felt slightly looser which was great) and I got less breakage (also great because I tend to bend my strings a lot). So I'm sticking with over-wrap on the ES and I don't use it on my Les Paul. In my humble opinion I think it's a good idea to test it both ways on any Gibdon you own and just use whatever works best on your particular guitar.

    • @stringsattached67
      @stringsattached67 Před 4 lety

      Joe my main reason for not over wrapping is I’m a collector as well as a player and I don’t want to add wear to parts of my guitars Because of aesthetic’s .

  • @mlasch1478
    @mlasch1478 Před rokem

    HAHA Love the Bass from Nugent's Stranglehold at 12:15+

  • @Jpw824
    @Jpw824 Před 4 lety

    Beautiful guitar, that burst is perfect

  • @rocknrollresignation93
    @rocknrollresignation93 Před 4 lety +1

    The thing I love most about top wrapping is how much it upsets people. Do what floats your boat. I find it does lessen the tension as it does when you raise the stop-bar up.

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle Před 4 lety

      Hmmm … but doesn't the tension dictate the tuning … so, if the tension is less, then the tuning is flat ???

    • @YouTubeHandlesAreMoronic
      @YouTubeHandlesAreMoronic Před 4 lety

      @@Jester-Riddle "Tension" is simply the wrong word to use here, but Tyler's underlying observation is is true. Raising the stopbar or top-wrapping will both result in a slinkier feel. However, this has nothing to do with tension. This feel comes from the strings sliding over the saddles with less friction, due to less downforce on the bridge.

  • @TheSpineSplitter1990
    @TheSpineSplitter1990 Před 4 lety +2

    There's a reason why I have always wanted a Steinberger, the necks are made out of Graphite so they don't move at all.

    • @OzziePete1
      @OzziePete1 Před 4 lety

      That's the old ones. The new models are made of wood. The graphite necks were reputed to have their own problems too.

  • @0437434819
    @0437434819 Před 4 lety

    the argument i heard is if you drop the tailpece to the floor it makes for more sustain

  • @ShannonFerguson
    @ShannonFerguson Před 4 lety

    Thanks, Dave. I love the lessons and your explanations. Keep safe!

  • @sailormike1089
    @sailormike1089 Před 4 lety +1

    Look at Joe Bonamassa's LP's, everyone he has is top wrapped. He says it makes for a slinkyness and easy bending, but he uses 11's on stage. But that's his personnel preference and everyone else's that does it. I don't wrap and thats my preference.

  • @sid5156
    @sid5156 Před 4 lety

    Cheers Dave! Your a cool dude, I really appreciate your videos! Take care

  • @danielj_music
    @danielj_music Před 4 lety

    I gotta say, raising the stop bar on my Les Paul made it feel a lot nicer to play, to me. I have it raised up quite a bit actually. It's strung with 9s, tuned to D standard. Bending is pretty effortless and controlled, no fighting with the guitar. I'm sure there's a scientific term for it. But I don't really care about that, it feels nice and I'm happy with that.
    EDIT: Just remembered, I had the same experience with raising the string trees on my Stratocaster, it got a lot slinkier feel after I did that.

    • @danielj_music
      @danielj_music Před 4 lety

      @@DavesWorldofFunStuff Yes, that and playing loud :P

  • @blkjckgtr3075
    @blkjckgtr3075 Před 4 lety

    Hope you and the family are doing well Dave! treat people the way you want to be treated,Cheers hoping for the world to go back to normal but more peaceful,lol

  • @rickaccount
    @rickaccount Před 4 lety

    yeah, if the stop-piece is up too high and the strings are going level over the saddles.. the note does not ring well... and the string can pop out of the saddle groove, too.. all kinds of trouble :)

  • @davehopping7212
    @davehopping7212 Před 4 lety

    I can't wrap my stop tailpieces. Put TP-6's on two of my Les Pauls and a Bigsby on the third!

  • @micahwatz1148
    @micahwatz1148 Před 2 lety

    I dont think top wrapping has anything to do with changing string tension. In fact it doesn’t at all. The string will be as tight as the note you tune it to. Anything behind the saddle doesnt matter. But what it DOES do, is add more contact between the strings and the bridge. Which transfers more vibration. ie sustain. Thats why it sounds better, depending on the guitar… some guitars dont sound as good when you add more vibration to the body. They start to get “quacky” sounding.

  • @onemanswrld
    @onemanswrld Před 4 lety

    You want the stop bar down on the deck...increased tone and sustain. The only reason to overwrap the string is when the stop bar is down and the string hits the back of the bridge. Overwrap and the string does not rest on the back of the bridge with the stop bar all the way down on the deck. Thats the idea anyway....

  • @RobbieJeadgbe
    @RobbieJeadgbe Před 4 lety

    When I was a young kid and had my first Les Paul it was before the internet days I top wrapped only because I didn’t know what I was doing. And I did not have a book yet either. Next string change I notice the strings were digging into the tail piece. I was looking at it and realized oh I thread them in from the back. I bet a lot of this top wrapping was just an error like mine and grew into urban legend when someone purchased a Les Paul wrapped wrong from someone else. Lol. Or also could be someone used to the older Gibson style one piece wrap around tailpieces. And continued to thread them that way on the new two piece style.

  • @Steven_SK
    @Steven_SK Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the extra goodness Dave. Be well.....

  • @AlexeyShreder
    @AlexeyShreder Před 4 lety +2

    Hello Dave! I love your videos very much! Very instructive and informative. Tell me please, what size probe do you use to measure string action? Thank you!

    • @AlexeyShreder
      @AlexeyShreder Před 4 lety

      @@DavesWorldofFunStuff So, is that when you measure at 7th fret, with 1st and 17th frets clamped?

  • @danfango1333
    @danfango1333 Před 4 lety

    Nice piece of wood Dave.

  • @strat0871
    @strat0871 Před 4 lety

    Raising up the stopbar on a LP makes bends easier, whatever gauge you use.

  • @mattpage2464
    @mattpage2464 Před 3 lety

    Your the best Dave

  • @jeffberg8015
    @jeffberg8015 Před 4 lety

    I prefer the pick ups on my ES-335 to be about 1/4" from the strings to mellow the tone a bit. No rules after all, just guidelines and player preference.

  • @adamwatson6916
    @adamwatson6916 Před 3 lety

    I remember reading reading something where jimmy pages former guitar tech said he hated working on pages number one les paul and actually referred the guitar as a dog he states that he was always trying to convince page to use his number 2 1959 les paul as his main guitar becuase he said it's a better sounding guitar and is an easier guitar to work on ..

  • @briano.5746
    @briano.5746 Před 4 lety

    Great informational video Dave. All stuff I had learned from you long ago , but very entertaining!
    I'm still wondering if we'll ever hear from Larry about the Pup Height guage. Any info on your side? I really want one. Unless there two separate ones. Then I want one of each LOL!
    Thanks again for doin' what you do Brother. Don't go crazy!
    PEACE from Southwest Michigan,
    🐉💀👽🎸🎶🎵🌎🌌🧠👍

  • @garrythomas492
    @garrythomas492 Před 4 lety

    So I fucked up the bridge height while changing strings and now my Les Paul is about as far from set up as it can possibly be. I’m hoping the neck angle was fine but i live in dry Calgary and I’ve never even opened the truss rod cover.
    Went outside to smoke and found this video on CZcams. Really appreciate it as I embark on a quest of self discovery to make my Les Paul great again.
    Any tips on setting up the bridge and tailpiece height would be much appreciated right now

  • @joemcgraw5529
    @joemcgraw5529 Před 4 lety

    had a guy come in with a les paul studio ,had to raise the tail block up to get the strings off the bridge ,he said they told him that they now put graffite nuts on them now to stop the strings from binding ,its all because of the neck angle but I put graffite in the nut slots anyways ,probably the only 1 that didnt need fret leveling and fret filing on the ends ,turned out to sound verty nice but why would they send a new guitar like you say out like this just crazy

  • @Jeff-hb1qq
    @Jeff-hb1qq Před 6 dny +1

    Tell me why Gibson is the only guitar that the neck breaks ..and I believe it is people messing around with the trust rod who don’t know what you’re doing😊

  • @tyson1ize
    @tyson1ize Před 2 lety

    love your work great stuff!!!

  • @rainyday2315
    @rainyday2315 Před 3 lety

    I don't have any opinion on any of this bridge stuff but if the point to point from the nut to the bridge , if wrapping doesn't make a difference then having the string hit the back of the bridge or not hitting it should make no difference either.

  • @klaytonvonkluge4905
    @klaytonvonkluge4905 Před 4 lety

    These things are like '57 Chevy's...
    Nice. Well built... Gonna last!
    But cumbersome, larger than most,
    And actually sorta "stiff" for my tastes anyways,
    I could never express myself to the max with a Les Paul, for these reasons...

  • @utahprepper8925
    @utahprepper8925 Před 4 lety

    Knipex makes great tools.

  • @BrianBeamers
    @BrianBeamers Před 4 lety

    Excellent explanation!

  • @DoppelgangerShockwave
    @DoppelgangerShockwave Před 4 lety +2

    "You can mess with this (bridge), you're not going to mess it up," Says Dave. Next video, "How in the hell did they mess up the bridge??" Aah-hahaha!!!

  • @martb8022
    @martb8022 Před 4 lety

    7:35 I agree Dave. I tried the top wrap thing because I heard about it, I bend a lot, and heck Gibbons, Bonamassa, Wylde... they do it. They are for sure better guitar players than I am, so how could they be wrong. Honestly though, I've tried and tried and I feel ZERO difference. Now I file it under the "other's may feel something, but I sure as hell can't so fuck it" heading.

    • @Charlie6969
      @Charlie6969 Před 2 lety

      Just like 99% of all the other bullshit people think make a difference, remember the whole "special tubes" nonsense? People listen with their eyes.

  • @Joe-mz6dc
    @Joe-mz6dc Před 4 lety

    that one looks nice.

  • @pratikbhosle3792
    @pratikbhosle3792 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you for the lesson.
    Please advise what could be done if there is fret buzz after the 12 fret?

  • @CrazyCarl432
    @CrazyCarl432 Před 4 lety

    nipex you can get'em at napa auto parts lol we have em not sponsored just used to work them

  • @billyporterfield7755
    @billyporterfield7755 Před 4 lety

    Lol. The shirt is back!