could you talk about how people with colorblind problems can find a way to do their own art and how can it be intresting. Or if you think that is a big issue, of course for realism but also for other styles of paintings
I am an online student of Cornelia, Amazing would be an understatement to describe her. Talking with her is like talking to your psychotherapist, except your talking about art. She will analyze your work as if she can read your mind while your painting your image. she is also beautiful inside and out.
The reason painting and drawing realistically remains valid even though there are cameras, printers, and Photoshop, is because it's INTERESTING. It's interesting both to do, and it's interesting to watch someone else do, and it's interesting to see the finished picture and knowing that it was done solely by hand, hard work, and skill. Of course someone can pick up a camera and press a button, and out pops a perfectly realistic image. Anyone can do that. Which is not to say photography is not a completely valid form of art. Photography is definitely an artform. It's like a younger sibling of the ancient art of drawing and painting. Photography has it's own completely distinct discipline, mainly focused on the equipment side of things. But it's a very specific and involved body of knowledge. And photography shares all the major elements with painting. Namely, subject matter and most importantly composition. Here in fact many photographers actually exceed a lot of painters because of the fact that the problem of rendering and actually creating the image is so simplified and effortless, and they are able to spend vast more amounts of time focusing on subject matter and composition than on the problem of rendering the image which painters sweat for years over. Adding to that the absolute limitless possibilities of things like Photoshop, and they can match any level of imagination which used to be solely in the capacities of paintings. But with all that said, painting and drawing still remain because it's deeply ingrained in humans to be fascinated with Hand Made Images. Ever since the stone age when people drew animals and characters on cave walls with burnt pieces of wood, people have been fascinated with the idea of a person being able to pick up a simple object that can make marks on a surface and bringing it to life with the illusions of living things in space. So of course someone can take a photograph easily and make a realistic picture, but a hand made drawing and painting is a primal thing that will always be interesting.
@@nipin790 Photography itself is an art, so a painting that is done with enough skill to look just like a photo is basically a handmade photograph and is definitely a form of art. It's basically more of a photo than a painting though, but it's still art. So someone could argue that it's not really a painting and that's it's more of a photo, a hand made photograph, but it couldn't be said that it's not art. Again, photography is an art and it involves creativity mostly in the form of subject matter, composition, emotions, atmosphere, etc.
Cornelia is a great painter. When it comes to any type of art I always feel that painters have a particular authority when it comes to seeking insight on creative processes :)
What an amazing interview to learn from. Proko, thanks so much for all you do for the art community. You are an excellent artist in many ways impossible to describe in a few words. I wish you all the success you deserve! Blessings and take care.
I find it sort of funny how people wonder why you would paint realistically when you can take a picture as if just being able to take a picture makes painting realistically inherently redundant.
During Da Vincis time, the upper class and royal subjects didn't have cameras or ways to capture their image. With paintings, Da Vinci could do that. Painting was a way for him express his thoughts, capture the human body, and have people collect "photos" of themselves. We have cameras, so painting to capture moments isn't needed, but regardless, painting is a nice way of expressing yourself.
Alan Walkman Not to mention the intense amount of skill it takes to paint realistically in the amount of patience that goes into it, while taking a photo is just so simple and easy, click a button, but there is craftsmanship in painting realistically, it takes hours to paint a subject, with a camera takes seconds. That dedication that goes into painting is definitely something to be admired. 😍
@@EllieMandyArt definitely, no doubt painters are intelligent, creative people. Regardless, that doesn't mean photography should be devalued as an artform or that painting is irrelevant. I get with software and computers drawing and painting is more convenient to do, but I prefer the traditional styles since I'm more old-school like that.
@@p_dusty5451 No one is saying you need to draw every exact detail. Studying real life is recommended because its part of the foundation of what makes great art believable and improves your creativity. That's why bird wings and humans are used as a basis for drawing angels and lizards for dragons. The issue is that beginner artists think they have to draw hyper realistically i.e. literally drawing every details in the human face when really you can still focus on the important details and still get a realistic piece. Will it photorealistic? No, but regardless, its believable.
@@p_dusty5451I get that argument about photorealism but there is creativity in realistic paintings that aren't identical and have their own interpretation you know the brush stroke and texture can make a big difference.
Well, I'm a fashion and beauty photographer and for sure it's different mediums. Each one with it's own character even when portrait the very same thing. Asking (with contempt) where's the difference is nothing but a statement of ignorance; it's in the liking ask what's the difference between casting and sculpture. Different techniques whose capabilities of expression vary from the very beginning. Regards from Brazil! Love both the channel and the interview. Stay safe.
She is very beautiful. A real woman who didn't lose herself in her outlooks and achieved more in life more than posting half naked pictures on Instagram. This is how they get respect from real men. Not with slutwalks on streets. (How did i get here? Idk)
Watching so many of your Draftsman series, I would always be drawn to the painting behind you of the girl with the ribbon in her hair. Now, I know why. Great interview!
Brava, Ms Hernes! Your work is marvellous. Salvador Dalì once said that a painting is a photograph of a dream. As you know, a painting is the result of collusion between observed nature (empiricism) and conceptualised form. What could be more conceptualised than a figure by Bouguereau, or a painting by Leighton? - M. John Angel, the studio director of the Angel Academy of Art, Florence.
Great interview! Regarding The camera vs painting, I would use the analogy of getting a take out or home cooking. Thou the take out is convenient a tasty home cooking speaks for itself... imho. As an artist and a cook. 🙏🏼
I'm sure it's gonna be an amazing video as always! I did want to ask you though, any change of you making a video on he Reilly method? I'd love to have see your take on it.
Stan, you and your team are awesome! You guys inspired my to start my own channel interviewing professional artists. Feel free to have a look. I would like to interview you once I get the channel a bit more established. Thanks for all you do!
i understand doing realistic from life as well as in traditional medium, but i don’t understand whats the point when ppl do digital realism, esp from photo ref, its just a replica of the photo!
I think its more about the talent .... people can shoot a picture and manipulate it by a computer ... but by painting you are appreciating the human part of it ... thats also why original painting is more expensive that a digital copy no matter how real or texture real it is ... i travel abroad just to see the real thing
actually i think majority of people overhype photorealism and they think is the best thing since slice bread , plus there is cunfusion using the term realism and photorealism . Realism is not copying a photo , it is using knowledge of space , light , shadow , perspective to recreate the nature it could be from nature or from photography , the end result (hopefuly) has a distinctive style/caligraphy that reflects the personality of the artist, photorealism lacks personality and character , although i respect the skill involved in it i dont feel any emotional attraction to photorealism
Did you purposely chose this shirt to be colourfully pleasing against complimentary yellow frames? ) I mean the whole shot is so visually harmonious I can't imagine otherwise )
2:00 i didn't exactly hear an answer to that question... We can consider the many potential differences in results which different tools can achieve, but what reasons might an artist have to use the less efficient medium in the cases when the goal is for it to appear indistinguishable from the more efficient medium ? reasons I can think of are: it's an exercise for building skills; or it's for the ARTIST'S personal satisfaction in the experience, if you feel compelled to indulge that OCD in a rewarding way; Or because the value of the resulting image is impressing people with the surprise that someone actually painted that by hand ! it seems to enhance the prestige of the work when people can view it in awe of the painstaking labor they struggle to imagine must have gone into it. "WOW I could Never do that! HOW?!?..." VS "oh that's a pretty photo. I should buy I nicer camera too."
I agree with her 100% , a camera can't portray the human vision of interpretation . Not to say a camera isn't a tool that can portray creativity in a composition , it just does it in a different way. I am partial to the age old romantic image of the painting.
Proko my BIGGEST problem is getting the likeness and inclinations right away,and I get confused with the facial structure that I make with the loomis method.
Excuse me, they just plucked me out of 1790 and I was wondering why you guys bothered painting portraits when you have cameras, I ask because its not like I was born in this time and would instinctively understand the merits of a portrait painting.
I am trying to make someone face but it does not match to it instead it becomes someone's else so please make a video to make me learn draw a perfect face
Hello! Very interesting material! I hope I won't be discouraged by "girlish subjects"on paintings.. As a male You're bombarded with only strong subjects with bright colours, so when You see woman's dress on picture it' a total blocker... About gold leaving - can You point me out to some good examples? I want to understand how light reflection can interfere with interior design. Of course showing wealth of owner and warming up is a well known topic.. I tried poor man version with 3M reflective material and it is fun but light source must be close to eyes. #stay safe and fruitfull
i dont think her artwork are like photographs, i disagree with that. i would say that she is a figurative painter who paints realisticly but not like a photograph
True, but why did you have to bring it to my attention! Seriously, I think it fades out for me, but with some individuals it's hard to ignore. I try to stay mindful of it myself.
People who suck their teeth are worse. I suck my teeth and say uhh 😑. Anyway you are an asshole for pointing it out. She speaks as good as next person better actually), and sounds like English may be a second language for her. How well do you do with English period?
@@Clint52279 lol i couldnt help it. i've spent a lot of time in skillshare classes and those people have this habit REALLY BAD. so im just way past my limit
@@xObscureMars Actually I'm not an asshole for pointing it out. If something is bothering me i have the right to say something about it. Most people who have this habit arent aware of it and arent aware that it bothers some people like me A LOT. So every time I come across someone who does this I inform them. usually i'm nice about it but this morning i was very annoyed. so deal with it.
I didn’t notice it - she is a very eloquent and intelligent speaker, and it’s not rehearsed, so having to pause to think is only natural! It’s unusual for artists to be great speakers, especially when the studio is not the most social place, and painting is a non-verbal language. Hope I changed your mind, and that you don’t think that this wonderful woman is a ‘NIGHTMARE’, which she is without a doubt not.
Erm... probably a lot more people than you might think, actually. So no it's not dumb at all and it gives Cornelia a good chance to express her view about it.
Check out Cornelia’s masterpiece demo on portrait painting - proko.com/hernes
could you talk about how people with colorblind problems can find a way to do their own art and how can it be intresting. Or if you think that is a big issue, of course for realism but also for other styles of paintings
I am an online student of Cornelia, Amazing would be an understatement to describe her. Talking with her is like talking to your psychotherapist, except your talking about art. She will analyze your work as if she can read your mind while your painting your image. she is also beautiful inside and out.
Her real-life-elegance seeps into everything she paints 😍💜
She's exactly what I imagine someone named "Cornelia" to look like.
She look like she fell out of an Agatha Christie novel.
Absolutely!
The reason painting and drawing realistically remains valid even though there are cameras, printers, and Photoshop, is because it's INTERESTING. It's interesting both to do, and it's interesting to watch someone else do, and it's interesting to see the finished picture and knowing that it was done solely by hand, hard work, and skill.
Of course someone can pick up a camera and press a button, and out pops a perfectly realistic image. Anyone can do that. Which is not to say photography is not a completely valid form of art. Photography is definitely an artform. It's like a younger sibling of the ancient art of drawing and painting. Photography has it's own completely distinct discipline, mainly focused on the equipment side of things. But it's a very specific and involved body of knowledge.
And photography shares all the major elements with painting. Namely, subject matter and most importantly composition. Here in fact many photographers actually exceed a lot of painters because of the fact that the problem of rendering and actually creating the image is so simplified and effortless, and they are able to spend vast more amounts of time focusing on subject matter and composition than on the problem of rendering the image which painters sweat for years over. Adding to that the absolute limitless possibilities of things like Photoshop, and they can match any level of imagination which used to be solely in the capacities of paintings.
But with all that said, painting and drawing still remain because it's deeply ingrained in humans to be fascinated with Hand Made Images. Ever since the stone age when people drew animals and characters on cave walls with burnt pieces of wood, people have been fascinated with the idea of a person being able to pick up a simple object that can make marks on a surface and bringing it to life with the illusions of living things in space. So of course someone can take a photograph easily and make a realistic picture, but a hand made drawing and painting is a primal thing that will always be interesting.
Photo realism is not art, it's more of a craft. Don't get me wrong, realism ain't easy.
@@ryy1704 Anything that requires skill is an artform.
Every little thing requires some level of skill BTW...
There's no creativity in photorealism
@@nipin790 Photography itself is an art, so a painting that is done with enough skill to look just like a photo is basically a handmade photograph and is definitely a form of art. It's basically more of a photo than a painting though, but it's still art.
So someone could argue that it's not really a painting and that's it's more of a photo, a hand made photograph, but it couldn't be said that it's not art. Again, photography is an art and it involves creativity mostly in the form of subject matter, composition, emotions, atmosphere, etc.
@@ryy1704 there is a difference with realism and photo realism though
Stan conversing with Marshall is a completely different person than the Stan speaking to someone else.
yeah, but you can see some of his Stan-Marshall dynamic "attitude" pop up in parts of his other conversations tho
Great Demo of live model-she is talented, knowledgeable, brilliant in her descriptions and explanations, a really good teacher.
Cornelia is a great painter. When it comes to any type of art I always feel that painters have a particular authority when it comes to seeking insight on creative processes :)
What a lovely lady and a wonderful interview. Thanks for that. 🎨 👍🏼 💗
She is amazing but I really admire Proko your drawings! They are so well balanced and under your control ! Superb
What an amazing interview to learn from. Proko, thanks so much for all you do for the art community. You are an excellent artist in many ways impossible to describe in a few words. I wish you all the success you deserve! Blessings and take care.
I find it sort of funny how people wonder why you would paint realistically when you can take a picture as if just being able to take a picture makes painting realistically inherently redundant.
During Da Vincis time, the upper class and royal subjects didn't have cameras or ways to capture their image. With paintings, Da Vinci could do that. Painting was a way for him express his thoughts, capture the human body, and have people collect "photos" of themselves. We have cameras, so painting to capture moments isn't needed, but regardless, painting is a nice way of expressing yourself.
Alan Walkman Not to mention the intense amount of skill it takes to paint realistically in the amount of patience that goes into it, while taking a photo is just so simple and easy, click a button, but there is craftsmanship in painting realistically, it takes hours to paint a subject, with a camera takes seconds. That dedication that goes into painting is definitely something to be admired. 😍
@@EllieMandyArt definitely, no doubt painters are intelligent, creative people. Regardless, that doesn't mean photography should be devalued as an artform or that painting is irrelevant. I get with software and computers drawing and painting is more convenient to do, but I prefer the traditional styles since I'm more old-school like that.
@@p_dusty5451 No one is saying you need to draw every exact detail. Studying real life is recommended because its part of the foundation of what makes great art believable and improves your creativity. That's why bird wings and humans are used as a basis for drawing angels and lizards for dragons. The issue is that beginner artists think they have to draw hyper realistically i.e. literally drawing every details in the human face when really you can still focus on the important details and still get a realistic piece. Will it photorealistic? No, but regardless, its believable.
@@p_dusty5451I get that argument about photorealism but there is creativity in realistic paintings that aren't identical and have their own interpretation you know the brush stroke and texture can make a big difference.
Well, I'm a fashion and beauty photographer and for sure it's different mediums. Each one with it's own character even when portrait the very same thing. Asking (with contempt) where's the difference is nothing but a statement of ignorance; it's in the liking ask what's the difference between casting and sculpture. Different techniques whose capabilities of expression vary from the very beginning.
Regards from Brazil! Love both the channel and the interview. Stay safe.
This is like the most serious version of Proko yet!
She is good painter, i like her painting ! Very unique portrait art...!! 🤩💞👍
the lighting make her skin look like a painting
I actually think she's a moving painting.
She is very beautiful. A real woman who didn't lose herself in her outlooks and achieved more in life more than posting half naked pictures on Instagram. This is how they get respect from real men. Not with slutwalks on streets. (How did i get here? Idk)
Watching so many of your Draftsman series, I would always be drawn to the painting behind you of the girl with the ribbon in her hair. Now, I know why. Great interview!
Cornelia is a great painter
The lighting setup in the video is really great.
Gorgeous artwork and a gorgeous artist. She’s very well spoken. Could listen to her for hours.
Would love to have her as an instructor/mentor.
Brava, Ms Hernes! Your work is marvellous. Salvador Dalì once said that a painting is a photograph of a dream. As you know, a painting is the result of collusion between observed nature (empiricism) and conceptualised form. What could be more conceptualised than a figure by Bouguereau, or a painting by Leighton? - M. John Angel, the studio director of the Angel Academy of Art, Florence.
When are yall gonna get miles johnston on?
Great interview! Regarding The camera vs painting, I would use the analogy of getting a take out or home cooking. Thou the take out is convenient a tasty home cooking speaks for itself... imho. As an artist and a cook. 🙏🏼
I'm sure it's gonna be an amazing video as always! I did want to ask you though, any change of you making a video on he Reilly method? I'd love to have see your take on it.
Stan, you and your team are awesome! You guys inspired my to start my own channel interviewing professional artists. Feel free to have a look. I would like to interview you once I get the channel a bit more established. Thanks for all you do!
Nice. Helpful for me.. Thanks Proko
#Adra by dipta
Thank you this was very useful to me to improve my skills thanks 👌👍
i understand doing realistic from life as well as in traditional medium, but i don’t understand whats the point when ppl do digital realism, esp from photo ref, its just a replica of the photo!
❤️❤️❤️I don’t have or have not found my niche but this video gives me hope
I think its more about the talent .... people can shoot a picture and manipulate it by a computer ... but by painting you are appreciating the human part of it ... thats also why original painting is more expensive that a digital copy no matter how real or texture real it is ... i travel abroad just to see the real thing
Proko doesn't sleep!
He is a super hero , doesn’t need to :)
actually i think majority of people overhype photorealism and they think is the best thing since slice bread , plus there is cunfusion using the term realism and photorealism . Realism is not copying a photo , it is using knowledge of space , light , shadow , perspective to recreate the nature it could be from nature or from photography , the end result (hopefuly) has a distinctive style/caligraphy that reflects the personality of the artist, photorealism lacks personality and character , although i respect the skill involved in it i dont feel any emotional attraction to photorealism
very interesting!
She’s so smart and interesting 💕
Thanks for sharing. That nice information. Huge like here
Did you purposely chose this shirt to be colourfully pleasing against complimentary yellow frames? ) I mean the whole shot is so visually harmonious I can't imagine otherwise )
I loved this
2:00 i didn't exactly hear an answer to that question...
We can consider the many potential differences in results which different tools can achieve, but what reasons might an artist have to use the less efficient medium in the cases when the goal is for it to appear indistinguishable from the more efficient medium ?
reasons I can think of are: it's an exercise for building skills;
or it's for the ARTIST'S personal satisfaction in the experience, if you feel compelled to indulge that OCD in a rewarding way;
Or because the value of the resulting image is impressing people with the surprise that someone actually painted that by hand ! it seems to enhance the prestige of the work when people can view it in awe of the painstaking labor they struggle to imagine must have gone into it.
"WOW I could Never do that! HOW?!?..." VS "oh that's a pretty photo. I should buy I nicer camera too."
I agree with her 100% , a camera can't portray the human vision of interpretation . Not to say a camera isn't a tool that can portray creativity in a composition , it just does it in a different way. I am partial to the age old romantic image of the painting.
Stan video
Hey, Stan can you do a video or series about landmarks of the human head and face?
NICE
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Proko my BIGGEST problem is getting the likeness and inclinations right away,and I get confused with the facial structure that I make with the loomis method.
She has some elegance I very much like it.
amazing woman
Please doo an interview with Casey baugh
Hi proko, what's the type of painting called as in which you paint/sketch only a recognisable part of a face with only a few strokes
Hey Proko? How can I make my shading smoother??
The painting in the the thumbnail looks like singer Laetitia Sadier(Stereolab)
Looks like female benedict cumberbatch
Hi I am a big fan pls reply
is there a way that i can have Cornelia Hernes photo to practice oil painting with my students ?
She's so interesting to look at...
yayyyy female voice, awesome 😆
Excuse me, they just plucked me out of 1790 and I was wondering why you guys bothered painting portraits when you have cameras, I ask because its not like I was born in this time and would instinctively understand the merits of a portrait painting.
Proko i really wanna know what that woman on the painting is looking for in your hair.
The Highlight on his forehead.
You are so amazing 😻❤️
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What if I don't have a teacher, what is the advice in that case?
haha I was like "oh her work is beautiful, let's follow in insta" only to find out I already do.
Artistic Karen
Sinto falta das aulas de desenho q tu trazia no canal...
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Corona corona. Last video bois :'(
Yo proko, I love your videos and all, but you seem to always pull your words at the end of your phrases.
Smash like now
I am trying to make someone face but it does not match to it instead it becomes someone's else so please make a video to make me learn draw a perfect face
Damn I'm the second viewer
Hello! Very interesting material!
I hope I won't be discouraged by "girlish subjects"on paintings.. As a male You're bombarded with only strong subjects with bright colours, so when You see woman's dress on picture it' a total blocker...
About gold leaving - can You point me out to some good examples? I want to understand how light reflection can interfere with interior design. Of course showing wealth of owner and warming up is a well known topic..
I tried poor man version with 3M reflective material and it is fun but light source must be close to eyes.
#stay safe and fruitfull
Great for those who have thousands to spend on tuition and accommodation.
i dont think her artwork are like photographs, i disagree with that.
i would say that she is a figurative painter who paints realisticly but not like a photograph
Hello sir
Will have home delivery to my home or have to download this book
Please tell the process🙏🙏🙏
Looks like Proko losing focus
Die Frau ist heiß
ppl criticizing realism are normally crappy artists who could never achieved realism
Takes Prince's advice and go purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka
Why is a female Benedict cumberbatch in the thumbnail?
Angry Chonker I sure hope he does
"Don't lie who's been a fan of Proko for more than a day"
(He just commented on my newest video omg)
Just forget it Proko, she wont fall for you. :D
People who say "uhhhhhhhh" after every freaking clause are a NIGHTMARE.
True, but why did you have to bring it to my attention! Seriously, I think it fades out for me, but with some individuals it's hard to ignore. I try to stay mindful of it myself.
People who suck their teeth are worse. I suck my teeth and say uhh 😑. Anyway you are an asshole for pointing it out. She speaks as good as next person better actually), and sounds like English may be a second language for her. How well do you do with English period?
@@Clint52279 lol i couldnt help it. i've spent a lot of time in skillshare classes and those people have this habit REALLY BAD. so im just way past my limit
@@xObscureMars Actually I'm not an asshole for pointing it out. If something is bothering me i have the right to say something about it. Most people who have this habit arent aware of it and arent aware that it bothers some people like me A LOT. So every time I come across someone who does this I inform them. usually i'm nice about it but this morning i was very annoyed. so deal with it.
I didn’t notice it - she is a very eloquent and intelligent speaker, and it’s not rehearsed, so having to pause to think is only natural! It’s unusual for artists to be great speakers, especially when the studio is not the most social place, and painting is a non-verbal language. Hope I changed your mind, and that you don’t think that this wonderful woman is a ‘NIGHTMARE’, which she is without a doubt not.
Wow you killed the interview with that first dumb question, who's even comparing an oil painting or portrait to a photo, who could be that cynical.
Erm... probably a lot more people than you might think, actually. So no it's not dumb at all and it gives Cornelia a good chance to express her view about it.
This portrait looks like Female version of Benedict Cumberbatch