@@dexigaming3766 for real. It is extremely crazy how much 9mm went up from the last time I was in the market for them. 1k rounds used to be able to get around 120-150 bucks and now they want 500+ for 1k rounds.
Yes,.... The buyer has control in alot of cases, but doesn't know it. It's called Boycott. The "B" word and sellers hate it. Let that stuff gather dust on the dealer's shelves and prices will drop.
he's telling the truth about these gun stores the one here was caught buying it at walmart $6.27 for 100 pack taken it back to there gun store and selling it for $14.00 a 100 pack my wife works in sporting goods when she see them coming in ,she refuses to sell to them ,
Midway's web site has the Remington 525 box .22 golden bullets for $41.99. Walmart has it for less than $30.00. It's not just the local gun stores. It's the big online stores as well.
...and midway charges through the ass for S&H, I laways buy from my local if he is around that price.+ s&h - keep it local! At least you help keep your local gun shop around!
"retailers are taking advantage of us" wtf are you kidding..??/ all retailers that stay in business mark up their goods at least 100 per cent.. if you are slow at math that means if you pay a buck for it they paid 50 cents or probably less... I know retail business. the smaller the business the more the markup. has to be to keep the door open.. there is no fucking conspiracy..its got nothing to do with you even though your 'thing' is too small boy...they would cut each others fucking throat if they could... they really don't meet in the middle of the night with little hoods on and plan this shit.. they just have to watch the market. so go sit in on a class of wholesale/retail markets dumb ass. prices for goods rise over time never lower that's not rocket science sparsity drives up price that's basic economics in capitalism holy fuck sakes... you can't organize purchasers in this fucking cuntree.!
you are soo right. unfortunately i cant see enough people coming together to stop the price gouging. people will always buy it no matter the price. ughh )-:
And I noticed that quality has gone down in the Winchester Super X .22 LR. It used to be excellent and a good price. I quit buying it. I'm only interested in CCI or better.
This is why "Cash for Clunkers" was such horseshit. Perfectly good cars at discounted prices. Not only did it impact used car sales and further deplete jobs that way, but it also caused difficulty in people getting reasonably priced and reliable vehicles.
I totally agree! Cash for clunkers B.S also destroyed a lot parts that could have been remanufactured..And the jobs that go along with that. They called it "Green" but it was a complete waste!! It was not recycling, it was destruction of resourses that they falsely claimed was for our benefit.
And only buy the size of pickup you need. I see alot of people with F-150's and 250's (farmers, I farm as well) that hardly ever use them near their rated capacity. Then they buy a second one for a beater! Simply my opinion and I could definitely be wrong, but I hardly even see a need for a 150 beyond lawn care crews, construction companies, and the like. Either you can get it done with a Ranger, or you should use an F-250 or greater. I drive a '97 Ranger almost all of the time and use a 2000 F-250 with a 5.4 primarily to haul livestock in a 27' trailer (slow as a freight train :) ). Also for a round bale trailer, gooseneck flatbed, or full hayracks. You don't need a 3/4 ton pickup to check cows, scout fields, or even to pull alot of loads related to farming. I pull augers, empty gravity wagons, and hayracks with corn and soybean seed with the ranger, it's surprising what that 2.3l can do. I can haul around 1250-1300 lbs. of payload in the bed, 1350 and over is doable but not advisable. I bet I could pull a trailer weight of 5000 on dead level, dry pavement if the tongue weight was light enough. 2500-3000 isn't a problem unless you have ice/snow or live in the mountains, I can take a fair grade on gravel and be okay.
what type of pickup truck are you talking about? something like a fully loaded 550 Ford cummins turbo diesel with all the top features maybe... but i paid around 23 grand for my 2017 F150 stage 2 Roush edition... you must be talking about some trash like a Tundra or a Raptor.. actually raptors are nice trucks but Tundra/ Tacoma etc are shit.
he's right , I think the employees were getting it before it hit the shelves. I know that was the case at Walmart. they'd buy it with the employee discount and sell it elsewhere for a lot more.
Do right. I'm actually one of those Preppers who did go crazy and buy up all I can find along with other calibers. You made great points I'm glad I found your Channel
Today's prices for a box of 50 22lr rounds are reasonable, I guess. A 50-round box of CCI 22lr Standard Velocity ammo is less than $4.00; a box of 50-round Federal 22lr ammunition is only around $2.86, including taxes; a box of 50-round CCI Stinger is about twice the cost of a box of CCI Standard Velocity ammo, but I guess it's still reasonable considering that CCI Stingers are hollow-points.
Agreed wholeheartedly by the way. I feel this way about a great many different things. Idiots keep paying outrageous prices for things and it just feeds the idiocy. Prices are in OUR control not the seller. How do you think they set their prices?? On our buying habits!!!
You're largely wrong about how much ammo gun stores get. At least good, quality ammo such as CCI, Remington, etc. Manufacturers can't even restock their suppliers, and can't fulfill long standing orders, let along get a lot of ammo to bottom tier sellers such as gun stores. They're hundreds of millions of rounds behind on orders. There are hoarders out there, but the latest polls show this is not the cause of the shortage. People are actually shooting ten times as much .22lr as they did only a few years ago. This is a good thing. CCI and Remington have finally acknowledged this, and are in the process of boosting production tremendously. CCI is now making four million rounds per day, and will increase this by 22% over the next year. Remington, and other companies are following suit. Lack of production to meet demand is why there's a shortage, and why prices are so high. The only thing that will bring costs down is to make production meet demand, and that's what is finally happening. Not buying ammo is NOT a solution. That would only make things worse in the long run because it would make companies cut back on production. Keep buying, keep shooting, have fun, and the companies will meet demand. It just takes time. No one, especially the manufacturers, dreamed that people would start shooting ten times as much ammo, or that this would continue for years, so production never rose to meet demand. Now it is rising, so don't blow it by telling people to stop buy ammo. It simply is NOT about fearful preppers or crooked gun stores. It just isn't. Stop buying and letting them sit on it simply is not going to happen, and wouldn't help anything if it did. The solution is to make manufacturers produce enough that no shortage can exist, and that's what's happening right now. You're the one with the misconception. Stop blaming preppers and gun stores. Neither are to blame. That's been proven a myth over and over. The "blame" is simply that millions of shooters are going out and burning more .22lr that is being made. The solution is simply to make more. The more people shoot, the better, so don't stop a good thing on a complete misconception of what's actually happening.
I agree with this statement, the 22 has become america's favorite round to shoot. It's bringing in lots of new shooters, and look at all the gun models chambered for it!
Wow thanks Sarge, I thought that same thing for quite some time now. Haven't bought 22 ammo for over three years. Hope others do the same. Thanks for your video.
I will never forget that ridiculous price gouging that started in 2012. I have bought a box of something every 2 weeks since that time. Too much hype on that .22 ammo I shoot my .223 for almost the same price now LOL! Nice video thank you sir - I totally agree that most of us gun owners have done it to ourselves.
I buy 22lr for 7 cents a round. The cheapest bullets I can find for a .223 are 8 cents. Primers are about 3 cents each. Powder charger for a .223 round is going to be about 2 cents. So adding that all together comes to 13 cents and that does not include my time. Every three reloads brass should be checked and trimmed. That is time consuming. I shoot plenty of .223 but it is never going to be as cheap as a 7 cent 22lr round.
I agree!! When I watched the video on how .22Lr is made (at cci), there were tens of thousands of rounds coming off the assembly line every hour. They go through a semi load of lead EVERYDAY....S there is NO shortage.
This is the truth...I was already ahead of the curve...I haven't bought a single round in at least 3 maybe 4 years...and yes the prices have came down a bit since the big scare..so folks..quit feeding the frenzy.
Americans dumped weapons and ammo in the Caribbean, where there is not one gun factory. Jamaica is now under a state of emergency lockdown due to gun violence and *no gun factory.* The islands are saturated with mostly American weapons. The going rate of a bullet is about what Americans pay for a box. When an American tourist falls victim to gun violence the US Embassy dtaff go on strike or issue a crime warning. What big scare? The one thoroughly scaring the Caribbean they've been fast and furiously targetted?
IM 53 SO YEAS BACK WHEN DAISY BB GUNS WERE THE STUFF EVERYONE WANTED ONE I GREW UP IN THE WOODS PURE COUNTRY, STILL HAVE MY OLD WESTERNAUTO SINGLE SHOT .22 OLD SCHOOLYES SIR YOUR ABSOLUTLY ON TIME SUPPLY AND DEMAND DROVE PRICES THROUGH THE ROOF AND OLD AMMO IS NOT AS DEPENDABLE WE ALL KNOW THAT THANKS FOR THE WORD BACK
I purchased a couple bricks of 22 LR from a dealer and only when it is 15.00 to 20.00 a brick. Sit back and wait and eventually they have a sale of name brand ammo. It might be tomorrow or next year but it does come around.
Yes, if you can do without, wait for the sales and stock up then, that's the only time I buy it and I actively look for the super sales, they are out there. I won't be extorted by anyone.
The assholes who stockpiled 20, 50, 100,00 rounds of rimfire are to blame for the lack of availability and price increases. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!
Sergent I comment on one of you're videos I new to your channel and to have to agree with you on everything you have said from you current videos to you're older videos. 100% thank God for you someone who still thinks and uses common sense
A very rational opinion. It is a market driven as you say by rumor and paranoia. There hasn't been a gun bill introduced in Congress in 20 years and there won't be one for another 20 years. In the aftermath of Newtown our local gun dealer sold out all of his AR15's went up the hill to the big box store bought all they had for a grand a gun. Took back down to their store sold them all for $1800 per copy. Three months or so later when the fervor died down many if not all took them back to the gun dealer wanting the full purchase price refunded. They were offered $ 400 per copy..
The market is always based on supply and demand. Something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Hey everyone... do me a favor and stop buying Porsches. I need the price to come down!
and 3 years later, sarge was right. while the prices arent quite as low as the 22lr was before the scare, they have dropped quite a bit. my local walmart has the rem thunderbolts for $18 a brick of 500
We had a similar issue in the UK. We bought chips or what you'd call chunky fries. They cost 30 pence. Then a potato crisis hit! Chips were 60-75 pence a portion. When the crisis ended and potatoes were back to usual price. The chip shops maintained their price. So they knew the price we were prepared to pay was irrelevant to the cost of buying a product to re sell
+darth nader Adding to the fact that most people who used to shoot a lot of .22LR have left the market, the supply will come back in a flood and they won't be able to give it away then. I'm looking forward to the day when I can pull my .22 out of the locker and go shoot 500 rounds without blinking an eye again.
Down to my last box and a half so maybe 60-70 rounds. Remington’s from Western Auto Store (long gone). Price paid was $5.00 a brick of 500 rounds. Went into Cabelas recently and was floored. Don’t shoot a lot anymore well for a few years now. I’m getting old and I did buy a lot back when I was younger. In retrospect I should have bought a lot more.
I've seen boxes and boxes of the stuff on the shelves and it's even on sale. I think some of the big retailers are sitting on piles of the stuff and are now getting nervous.
Brian H same here. It's plentiful all around me, save for Walmart. I'm new to the world of .22 so the prices to me aren't insane coming from shooting 7.62x51, 30-06, and even 12ga shotgun shells.
I worked with an old Mormon guy back in the early 90's. Say what you want about Mormons, but by golly they're the original preppers. He'd buy a brick of .22 ammo every time he shopped at Wal-Mart, and he didn't even own a .22! At the time a brick was about $6. He said he did it to use as bartering if things went to hell. I'll bet old Don made a ton of money when prices skyrocketed. Pretty smart old dude.
Alright, i work for a major chain. I handle the ammo orders and i know how much we get, when we get it and the cost of said ammo including rimfire- 22, 22mag and 17 calibers. We DO NOT hold those shipments in the back, but rather doll it out on a daily basis until our next weekly order arrives. We will go a month without any "bricks: even though many customers accuse us of having them "in the back". WE DO NOT have them in the back. And its videos like this that perpetuate one or two stores that may be doing that. The FACT IS that many horders and those who buy at retail then scalp on the internet are one of the main problems. We see the same customers week after week buying 22 and no one could shoot that much. Couple that with another 30 million new gun owners who all got a 22 for cheap target shooting - yu can see why the "shortage" is still hee. Ammo manufacturers still make it at the rate they always have, and its an expensive round to make- but the fact that there are now more gun owners in the US that ever before is what spreads the supply so thin...
Fully agree, WE are the reason the prices have gone through the roof, as long as we show that we're willing to pay hand over fist, they'll keep jacking up the prices and taking advantage of us. i personally, haven't bought .22 ammo in about 6 years now, which is a shame because i bought a Ruger SR22 pistol right before Obama started his craziness. i've probably only put 100 rounds through that pistol since i've owned it. i refuse to spend $60+ for a box of 1,000 rounds when i used to buy the exact same box for less than $20 just a few years ago.
First I am @ 1:04 of the video and I can't prove this(but isn't that just the point ?) but if you recall the EPA shut down lead mining in the entire U.S. So this means that lead needs to be imported. So bullets are much more expensive. So someone in congress said..."if we can't get rid of the guns, then just take away the ammo." Simple. Now go ahead with your story. The 22 isn't the only ammo that went up drastically. I am not contending your idea. But take an honest look at what I said as well.
My 2nd comment to this video: I also wanted to point out something, Air Rifles. Steel Pellets. I used alot of air powered weaponry during the ammo shortage for target practicing in my own house. I set-up a place in the house to do it safely & since it's only my wife & me living in our home, I knew she wouldn't mind. I set that thing up & did alot of target shooting for fun & for real too. There are air rifles that are as powerful as .22LR & even more powerful than .223 rounds. The air rifle I was shooting cost me about $75 from Walmart & it shot the steel pellets at abit over 1,250 FPS. As far as I was concerned, that's pretty good for something that's relatively cheap & very useful for training, etc.
Here in N.E. PA. I can get all the 22 lr ammo you want... The only places that put amount limits on it are the big stores. I also do not see what the use of having so much 22 lr on hand. Sure its good to have a 1000 rounds on hand but for any SHTF Scenario you need bigger calibers.. 223, 308, 45 ,40 ,9mm and a good supply of shotgun ammo in various loads.. Thanks! Video makes allot of sense
Stop buying bulk ammo for $45 a brick. At today's prices I am not buying any ammo worse than CCI Standard Velocity. It has been over 20 years since you could buy CCI Standard Velocity for $8 a brick. I prepay for ammo when the LGS orders ammo. I get a great deal on 5,000 rounds or more. I am learning to love Aguila and SK ammo. I have no idea of how many rounds of Aguila Super Extra I have shot in the past 4 or 5 years. None of the cartridges have failed to go bang. Super Extra cycles well in all my pistols and rifles. I consider Super Extra to be comparable or better than CCI Mini mags. I would use Super Extra ammo if I had to use a 22Lr for SD. Lets hope that 22lr self defense, never, ever happens.
I know that this is an old clip, but as a 25 year FFL, I have to respond......during this past shortage, .22 rimfire was NOT available to us dealers, contrary to what this guy claimed. I would go onto my wholesalers sites trying to order rimfire, and except for the match grade stuff that was $10-15 a 50 rd box, there was nothing available to me for years. It wasn't til Trump was elected that the availability opened up again, and I'm convinced that some of that ammo that was suddenly available had been sitting around for a very long time somewhere. I was getting bricks of 22 that were so old that the glue on the boxes had dried out. So, lets not blame the dealers for the past shortage.
i would add too that in the last couple of years i have went from keeping very little to building a nice stockpile for all my firearms , nothing crazy , just nough to be prepared for shortages or whatever . it was expensive as i did it pretty much all at once but at least i have piece of mind now . the 5k rds of 22 and then i keep 1200 of 5.56 and 400 rds of .40 and 9mm as well as 500 rds of buckshot in 00 and 0000. and like the 22 i dont shoot anymore unless i buy the ammo just for that reason .
same thing happened in Ireland, bulk packs were 15Euro not they are 45-55 Euro per pack. some places higher. (that is for 550 rounds of federal ammo) it killing the ranges and the shooters and numbers of people doing it are getting smaller, EU is interfering as usual.
I only subscribed to this because when Heisenberg tells me to "Tread Lightly" , and stop buying this shit, YOU are damn right I'm gonna do what he says. I suggest you do the same.
+Angelo “Paisan” Bonsignore Andy And I have enjoyed telling my previous gun store that their new 22lr pricing is why I now only use them as my FFL for my firearms purchases. And honestly, I've spent an awful lot of time bidding on gunbroker and shopping at buds lately.
So retailers found a new channel through which to market their merchandise and adjusted their process in response to demand. how does that make them crooked?
After I retired I took up Bench Rest Shooting and built my own 50 yard range. I was shooting around 200-300 rounds a day. To do that I was buying 3-4 Bricks a week. My Grand-kids love target shooting when they come down from the city and I don't have run to town to buy ammo.
Buncha young'uns, y'all are! Haha! In 1971 I was walking in the woods and FOUND a bolt action .22 S,L, LR...I was buying .22's at western auto (on sale) for as low as 59c a box!!! And for the most part, all 3 sizes cost the same!
that is true, me and my dad went and bought a .22 for my little brother at gander mtn they had no .22 ammo on the shelves. then they asked "are you wanting to buy some ammo" then we said "y'all don't have any do you" then they said we do in the back, and not a single .22 box was on the shelves
Great advice & well said. I almost bought an AR platform rifle in October just in case. Glad I didn't and six months from now it'll be a buyer's market for weapons & ammo. People sitting on piles of ammo are certain to downsize their stash now that Hillary is toast.
I always bought my 22 @ walmart which keeps their prices in check, and NEVER at the gun stores which inflate the prices. I have a decent amount now and found out I just don't shoot it as much as other calibers so I should be good for the next ten years or so. The market will eventually crash for .22 and people will feel pretty stupid getting caught up in the faux frenzy
I have also bought my .22 ammo at Walmart. Gun shops have grossly gouged the bullet market. It has taken me a couple years now but I have at the very least 10,000 rounds of .22s which I continue to shoot whenever I want. It's your gun shop that is screwing you over.
I couldn't agree more, I never paid the ridicules prices for it just conserved what I had on hand. And did buy some a couple years ago no Black Friday sale 15 dollars for 325 pack good deal considering. But you are absolutely right no demand, supply goes up prices come down.
chrisrobins7 I wonder if buy American means anything now? does anyone remember the junk ripoff crap USA made? everything from cars to bikes. how bout all those junk cars in the 70s and 80s and just look at what they have US making now. using plastic oil pans carburetors lawnmower parts and charging you out the ass. that's what we really let happen in every aspect of our lives and money. Anyway UAW member here and even though they still make the dodge ram they shipped my job off to Mexico. So I think there is a way bigger picture here. GMO'S and the cost of living just to start. Look at everything you are buying and let's all drive the price down on everything for everyone. Can anyone look at any laws trade agreements policies ect. And say hmm there is sumpin not right here. Anyway Happy Thanksgiving but there'll be no Thanks given
chrisrobins7 it's not really China that is the problem it's places like WAL-MART and others jacking up the prices 1000% but that comes back to the fact that we let it happen stop buying from Wal-Mart and all the other Chinese sellers like home depot or Lowes target and read the tags if you care at all.
chrisrobins7 it's not really China that is the problem it's places like WAL-MART and others jacking up the prices 1000% but that comes back to the fact that we let it happen stop buying from Wal-Mart and all the other Chinese sellers like home depot or Lowes target and read the tags if you care at all.
chrisrobins7 would you pay 500 dollars on a car part made in USA when in china cost to make is 100 but later do not complaint for exaggerated prices just because is made in USA by lazy fat and sorry ass people, example is black friday with huge discount on products made in china
Sir, I mean, Howling Sarge, you're absolutely right. I know my comment is old now since you posted this video last winter in early 2016, but, I agree with you because you ARE RIGHT. You hit all the main points. It didn't just go for .22LR ammo either, it happened to pretty much all common calibers, even less shot calibers were missing on a daily basis. I admit to paying abit more for .22LR at FIRST, but I only did it twice & after that, I couldn't justify being ripped off anymore for a round that isn't even really powerful at all, if you compare it to .223/5.56x45, 7.62x39, etc. Oddly though, 7.62x39 steel rounds made by TulaAmmo were 1 of the very few calibers in stock on a weekly basis back when the idiots out here were jacking the prices up, etc.
When we were kids, a 50 round pack was 49 cents plus 2 cents tax. We always considered 22s a penny per shot. I was at an auction when you couldn’t find any in the stores and a box of 50 sold for $17.
“The days of the cheap ammo are done.” LMAO. Been to the store lately? Herd mentality. Patience and true conservatism have served me well. Never run with the herd.
i remember as a kid in the 70s and early 80s a box of 50 could be had at the local hardware store for 69 cents . even into the early 2ks it was still cheap. i keep a small stash of about 5k rounds that i wont shoot and just buy my shooting ammo whenever i go shooting. cabelas has plenty , the local wal marts do not because of the hoarders. i also bought a couple of bricks at crazy prices just to insure i had at least some with the way things were going , at least it stays good for decades. but yeah , the paranoia and crooked ass hoarders and ammo dealers are the biggest problem . you are right sir . great video .
I was getting Winchester X hollow points and CCI 100 round boxes for $3 and some change there was plenty on the Shelf I only bought 2 boxes of each and save some for everybody else I just need enough to sight in my scope and have some left over for squirrel season and maybe some for next year
Sir, you are absolutely right. This is a supply side based inflation. The manufactures of 22LR, and there are dozens now, are producing on regular basis. If everyone just stops buying 22lr for 3 or 4 months, there will be a huge back log of inventory. They retailers will be forced to dump huge back storeage to clear inventory.
good advice if you can get everyone on board. last .22 ammo i bought i gave about 11 dollars for a box of 550 rounds. that tells you about how long it has been.
Today is October 29, 2020, boy Sarge was spot on.
Just watched it today and it’s like holy cow this man was dead right all along
@@dexigaming3766 for real. It is extremely crazy how much 9mm went up from the last time I was in the market for them. 1k rounds used to be able to get around 120-150 bucks and now they want 500+ for 1k rounds.
Fear does cause poor judgement.
Good message sir.
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Yes,.... The buyer has control in alot of cases, but doesn't know it. It's called Boycott. The "B" word and sellers hate it. Let that stuff gather dust on the dealer's shelves and prices will drop.
he's telling the truth about these gun stores the one here was caught buying it at walmart $6.27 for 100 pack taken it back to there gun store and selling it for $14.00 a 100 pack my wife works in sporting goods when she see them coming in ,she refuses to sell to them ,
Can't hate the player hate the game.
MrDeathd Depending on the state you live in & gun laws it may be illegal to buy ammo from Wal-Mart and re-sell it in there store...
2redneck Call it what you want . You have to pay to play.
2redneck Then you must have payed to play.I play all day.
MrDeathd I have never (ever) seen .22 ammo in a Walmart store !
Midway's web site has the Remington 525 box .22 golden bullets for $41.99. Walmart has it for less than $30.00. It's not just the local gun stores. It's the big online stores as well.
...and midway charges through the ass for S&H, I laways buy from my local if he is around that price.+ s&h - keep it local! At least you help keep your local gun shop around!
my local sells at a cost too high to even consider but he concentrates on antique guns.
Louis King
"retailers are taking advantage of us" wtf are you kidding..??/ all retailers that stay in business mark up their goods at least 100 per cent.. if you are slow at math that means if you pay a buck for it they paid 50 cents or probably less... I know retail business. the smaller the business the more the markup. has to be to keep the door open.. there is no fucking conspiracy..its got nothing to do with you even though your 'thing' is too small boy...they would cut each others fucking throat if they could... they really don't meet in the middle of the night with little hoods on and plan this shit.. they just have to watch the market. so go sit in on a class of wholesale/retail markets dumb ass.
prices for goods rise over time never lower
that's not rocket science
sparsity drives up price
that's basic economics in capitalism
holy fuck sakes... you can't organize purchasers in this fucking cuntree.!
you are soo right. unfortunately i cant see enough people coming together to stop the price gouging. people will always buy it no matter the price. ughh )-:
Exactly right
And I noticed that quality has gone down in the Winchester Super X .22 LR. It used to be excellent and a good price. I quit buying it. I'm only interested in CCI or better.
I remember paying 99 cents.
I remember 59 cents per box, back when you could still buy new Studebakers.
same thing with pickup trucks.........40K for a truck and up, nutty folks keep buying them though!
People need to start buying used cars. My truck's a used 2009 f150 and I don't plan on getting rid of it anytime soon.
This is why "Cash for Clunkers" was such horseshit. Perfectly good cars at discounted prices. Not only did it impact used car sales and further deplete jobs that way, but it also caused difficulty in people getting reasonably priced and reliable vehicles.
I totally agree! Cash for clunkers B.S also destroyed a lot parts that could have been remanufactured..And the jobs that go along with that. They called it "Green" but it was a complete waste!! It was not recycling, it was destruction of resourses that they falsely claimed was for our benefit.
And only buy the size of pickup you need. I see alot of people with F-150's and 250's (farmers, I farm as well) that hardly ever use them near their rated capacity. Then they buy a second one for a beater! Simply my opinion and I could definitely be wrong, but I hardly even see a need for a 150 beyond lawn care crews, construction companies, and the like. Either you can get it done with a Ranger, or you should use an F-250 or greater. I drive a '97 Ranger almost all of the time and use a 2000 F-250 with a 5.4 primarily to haul livestock in a 27' trailer (slow as a freight train :) ). Also for a round bale trailer, gooseneck flatbed, or full hayracks. You don't need a 3/4 ton pickup to check cows, scout fields, or even to pull alot of loads related to farming. I pull augers, empty gravity wagons, and hayracks with corn and soybean seed with the ranger, it's surprising what that 2.3l can do. I can haul around 1250-1300 lbs. of payload in the bed, 1350 and over is doable but not advisable. I bet I could pull a trailer weight of 5000 on dead level, dry pavement if the tongue weight was light enough. 2500-3000 isn't a problem unless you have ice/snow or live in the mountains, I can take a fair grade on gravel and be okay.
what type of pickup truck are you talking about? something like a fully loaded 550 Ford cummins turbo diesel with all the top features maybe... but i paid around 23 grand for my 2017 F150 stage 2 Roush edition... you must be talking about some trash like a Tundra or a Raptor.. actually raptors are nice trucks but Tundra/ Tacoma etc are shit.
he's right , I think the employees were getting it before it hit the shelves. I know that was the case at Walmart. they'd buy it with the employee discount and sell it elsewhere for a lot more.
Do right. I'm actually one of those Preppers who did go crazy and buy up all I can find along with other calibers. You made great points I'm glad I found your Channel
It would be nice to get some 22lr for a decent price again. Sir you are right, they are raking us over the coals with those inflated prices!
Today's prices for a box of 50 22lr rounds are reasonable, I guess. A 50-round box of CCI 22lr Standard Velocity ammo is less than $4.00; a box of 50-round Federal 22lr ammunition is only around $2.86, including taxes; a box of 50-round CCI Stinger is about twice the cost of a box of CCI Standard Velocity ammo, but I guess it's still reasonable considering that CCI Stingers are hollow-points.
am i watching breaking bad?
lol. I thought the same.
Lmao
I thought the same thing.
It's Heisenberg.
new season
Agreed wholeheartedly by the way. I feel this way about a great many different things. Idiots keep paying outrageous prices for things and it just feeds the idiocy. Prices are in OUR control not the seller. How do you think they set their prices?? On our buying habits!!!
Michael Kirst stupid people,government,retailers,dealers
2021, here we are again.
I'm glad to hear someone say it. Thank you
This would stop if Walmart would let you order on line, and they would call you when "Your" order came in.
You're largely wrong about how much ammo gun stores get. At least good, quality ammo such as CCI, Remington, etc. Manufacturers can't even restock their suppliers, and can't fulfill long standing orders, let along get a lot of ammo to bottom tier sellers such as gun stores. They're hundreds of millions of rounds behind on orders. There are hoarders out there, but the latest polls show this is not the cause of the shortage. People are actually shooting ten times as much .22lr as they did only a few years ago. This is a good thing. CCI and Remington have finally acknowledged this, and are in the process of boosting production tremendously. CCI is now making four million rounds per day, and will increase this by 22% over the next year. Remington, and other companies are following suit. Lack of production to meet demand is why there's a shortage, and why prices are so high. The only thing that will bring costs down is to make production meet demand, and that's what is finally happening. Not buying ammo is NOT a solution. That would only make things worse in the long run because it would make companies cut back on production. Keep buying, keep shooting, have fun, and the companies will meet demand. It just takes time. No one, especially the manufacturers, dreamed that people would start shooting ten times as much ammo, or that this would continue for years, so production never rose to meet demand. Now it is rising, so don't blow it by telling people to stop buy ammo. It simply is NOT about fearful preppers or crooked gun stores. It just isn't. Stop buying and letting them sit on it simply is not going to happen, and wouldn't help anything if it did. The solution is to make manufacturers produce enough that no shortage can exist, and that's what's happening right now. You're the one with the misconception. Stop blaming preppers and gun stores. Neither are to blame. That's been proven a myth over and over. The "blame" is simply that millions of shooters are going out and burning more .22lr that is being made. The solution is simply to make more. The more people shoot, the better, so don't stop a good thing on a complete misconception of what's actually happening.
I agree with this statement, the 22 has become america's favorite round to shoot. It's bringing in lots of new shooters, and look at all the gun models chambered for it!
“ Black Ninja Army” is meant as sarcasm towards those who hoarded out of fear. Don’t be racist .
Black nigga army *jokeing no hate*
Wow thanks Sarge, I thought that same thing for quite some time now. Haven't bought 22 ammo for over three years. Hope others do the same. Thanks for your video.
I will never forget that ridiculous price gouging that started in 2012. I have bought a box of something every 2 weeks since that time. Too much hype on that .22 ammo I shoot my .223 for almost the same price now LOL! Nice video thank you sir - I totally agree that most of us gun owners have done it to ourselves.
FA! Just bought a .223 Rem for the exact same reason.
I buy 22lr for 7 cents a round. The cheapest bullets I can find for a .223 are 8 cents. Primers are about 3 cents each. Powder charger for a .223 round is going to be about 2 cents. So adding that all together comes to 13 cents and that does not include my time. Every three reloads brass should be checked and trimmed. That is time consuming. I shoot plenty of .223 but it is never going to be as cheap as a 7 cent 22lr round.
stupidasso77 Your math is spot on. .22 good, .223 nice! AVAILABILITY-priceless.
I agree i have not bought 22 in many years. No way i am paying 4 times what it should cost.
I agree!! When I watched the video on how .22Lr is made (at cci), there were tens of thousands of rounds coming off the assembly line every hour. They go through a semi load of lead EVERYDAY....S there is NO shortage.
This is the truth...I was already ahead of the curve...I haven't bought a single round in at least 3 maybe 4 years...and yes the prices have came down a bit since the big scare..so folks..quit feeding the frenzy.
Americans dumped weapons and ammo in the Caribbean, where there is not one gun factory. Jamaica is now under a state of emergency lockdown due to gun violence and *no gun factory.* The islands are saturated with mostly American weapons. The going rate of a bullet is about what Americans pay for a box. When an American tourist falls victim to gun violence the US Embassy dtaff go on strike or issue a crime warning. What big scare? The one thoroughly scaring the Caribbean they've been fast and furiously targetted?
DAISY BBS USED TO COST MORE THAN .22 SHELLS REMEMBER MILK CARTONS FULL FOR A COUPLE BUCKS
nick canale
Now that's been a minute
IM 53 SO YEAS BACK WHEN DAISY BB GUNS WERE THE STUFF EVERYONE WANTED ONE I GREW UP IN THE WOODS PURE COUNTRY, STILL HAVE MY OLD WESTERNAUTO SINGLE SHOT .22 OLD SCHOOLYES SIR YOUR ABSOLUTLY ON TIME SUPPLY AND DEMAND DROVE PRICES THROUGH THE ROOF AND OLD AMMO IS NOT AS DEPENDABLE WE ALL KNOW THAT THANKS FOR THE WORD BACK
I purchased a couple bricks of 22 LR from a dealer and only when it is 15.00 to 20.00 a brick. Sit back and wait and eventually they have a sale of name brand ammo. It might be tomorrow or next year but it does come around.
Chuck Littleton
Yes, if you can do without, wait for the sales and stock up then, that's the only time I buy it and I actively look for the super sales, they are out there. I won't be extorted by anyone.
Sarge, you really slobbered a mouthful with that topic. So so true!
The assholes who stockpiled 20, 50, 100,00 rounds of rimfire are to blame for the lack of availability and price increases. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!
The biggest problem is even if most listen there will always be enough that don’t to keep it moving at the price it’s at unfortunately
Good message sir, I couldn't agree more.
what’s your opinion on the 2020 extreme ammo shortage!
Amen Sarge!.... Sgt. Fury and the Howling Commandos, still have some of those comics from when I was little.
Sergent I comment on one of you're videos I new to your channel and to have to agree with you on everything you have said from you current videos to you're older videos. 100% thank God for you someone who still thinks and uses common sense
jimmie t
Thank you , appreciate ya
This can also be said for cable tv and mobile phones. Especially iphones. Thieves.
Best little speech on ammo I have heard. Thank you.
A very rational opinion. It is a market driven as you say by rumor and paranoia. There hasn't been a gun bill introduced in Congress in 20 years and there won't be one for another 20 years. In the aftermath of Newtown our local gun dealer sold out all of his AR15's went up the hill to the big box store bought all they had for a grand a gun. Took back down to their store sold them all for $1800 per copy. Three months or so later when the fervor died down many if not all took them back to the gun dealer wanting the full purchase price refunded. They were offered $ 400 per copy..
The market is always based on supply and demand. Something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
Hey everyone... do me a favor and stop buying Porsches. I need the price to come down!
and 3 years later, sarge was right. while the prices arent quite as low as the 22lr was before the scare, they have dropped quite a bit. my local walmart has the rem thunderbolts for $18 a brick of 500
Thanks for the timely brief, Sarge. I agree 100%.
We had a similar issue in the UK. We bought chips or what you'd call chunky fries. They cost 30 pence. Then a potato crisis hit! Chips were 60-75 pence a portion. When the crisis ended and potatoes were back to usual price. The chip shops maintained their price. So they knew the price we were prepared to pay was irrelevant to the cost of buying a product to re sell
I feel your pain but what comes around goes around. People have been hoarding ammo so lone it gonna be worthless soon.
+darth nader Adding to the fact that most people who used to shoot a lot of .22LR have left the market, the supply will come back in a flood and they won't be able to give it away then. I'm looking forward to the day when I can pull my .22 out of the locker and go shoot 500 rounds without blinking an eye again.
The last 22lr I got was in 2009, for less than 10 bucks a brick. I don't burn through bricks plinking anymore, but I have some for hunting.
True Dat. I overheard a phone call between a Walmart employee and his buddy on hard to get ammo.
Down to my last box and a half so maybe 60-70 rounds. Remington’s from Western Auto Store (long gone). Price paid was $5.00 a brick of 500 rounds. Went into Cabelas recently and was floored. Don’t shoot a lot anymore well for a few years now. I’m getting old and I did buy a lot back when I was younger. In retrospect I should have bought a lot more.
I've seen boxes and boxes of the stuff on the shelves and it's even on sale. I think some of the big retailers are sitting on piles of the stuff and are now getting nervous.
Brian H same here. It's plentiful all around me, save for Walmart. I'm new to the world of .22 so the prices to me aren't insane coming from shooting 7.62x51, 30-06, and even 12ga shotgun shells.
I worked with an old Mormon guy back in the early 90's. Say what you want about Mormons, but by golly they're the original preppers. He'd buy a brick of .22 ammo every time he shopped at Wal-Mart, and he didn't even own a .22! At the time a brick was about $6. He said he did it to use as bartering if things went to hell. I'll bet old Don made a ton of money when prices skyrocketed. Pretty smart old dude.
Alright, i work for a major chain. I handle the ammo orders and i know how much we get, when we get it and the cost of said ammo including rimfire- 22, 22mag and 17 calibers. We DO NOT hold those shipments in the back, but rather doll it out on a daily basis until our next weekly order arrives. We will go a month without any "bricks: even though many customers accuse us of having them "in the back". WE DO NOT have them in the back. And its videos like this that perpetuate one or two stores that may be doing that. The FACT IS that many horders and those who buy at retail then scalp on the internet are one of the main problems. We see the same customers week after week buying 22 and no one could shoot that much. Couple that with another 30 million new gun owners who all got a 22 for cheap target shooting - yu can see why the "shortage" is still hee. Ammo manufacturers still make it at the rate they always have, and its an expensive round to make- but the fact that there are now more gun owners in the US that ever before is what spreads the supply so thin...
Sir, you are so right. Thanks for the advise!
Fully agree, WE are the reason the prices have gone through the roof, as long as we show that we're willing to pay hand over fist, they'll keep jacking up the prices and taking advantage of us.
i personally, haven't bought .22 ammo in about 6 years now, which is a shame because i bought a Ruger SR22 pistol right before Obama started his craziness. i've probably only put 100 rounds through that pistol since i've owned it. i refuse to spend $60+ for a box of 1,000 rounds when i used to buy the exact same box for less than $20 just a few years ago.
First I am @ 1:04 of the video and I can't prove this(but isn't that just the point ?) but if you recall the EPA shut down lead mining in the entire U.S.
So this means that lead needs to be imported. So bullets are much more expensive. So someone in congress said..."if we can't get rid of the guns,
then just take away the ammo." Simple. Now go ahead with your story.
The 22 isn't the only ammo that went up drastically. I am not contending your idea. But take an honest look at what I said as well.
My 2nd comment to this video: I also wanted to point out something, Air Rifles. Steel Pellets. I used alot of air powered weaponry during the ammo shortage for target practicing in my own house. I set-up a place in the house to do it safely & since it's only my wife & me living in our home, I knew she wouldn't mind. I set that thing up & did alot of target shooting for fun & for real too. There are air rifles that are as powerful as .22LR & even more powerful than .223 rounds. The air rifle I was shooting cost me about $75 from Walmart & it shot the steel pellets at abit over 1,250 FPS. As far as I was concerned, that's pretty good for something that's relatively cheap & very useful for training, etc.
Here in N.E. PA. I can get all the 22 lr ammo you want... The only places that put amount limits on it are the big stores. I also do not see what the use of having so much 22 lr on hand. Sure its good to have a 1000 rounds on hand but for any SHTF Scenario you need bigger calibers.. 223, 308, 45 ,40 ,9mm and a good supply of shotgun ammo in various loads.. Thanks! Video makes allot of sense
on a related subject of supply vs demand raising prices! if everybody stopped buying gas for one day it would bring big oil to its knees!
Dirk Diggler no it would bring all the gas station and convenience stores to their knees. Big oil would be just fine
The refineries couldn't store it so production would have to stop, but it would take unity of a people to take action!
No it would not happen. Oil Market is an inflexible market. This is economy 101
he is right just hold off for 120 days.
Eric Schultz It can work if everyone works together.
your in America no body works together. All for one and one for one.
William Mills Sadly what you say is true. Businesses can and do make adjustments with their business practices when the money spigot is shut off.
William Mills amen I'll stand with ya.
It's also because Odummy shut down so many lead smelters that you can't find bullets for reloading.
So true! Thanks for making this video Sarge!
Stop buying bulk ammo for $45 a brick. At today's prices I am not buying any ammo worse than CCI Standard Velocity. It has been over 20 years since you could buy CCI Standard Velocity for $8 a brick. I prepay for ammo when the LGS orders ammo. I get a great deal on 5,000 rounds or more. I am learning to love Aguila and SK ammo. I have no idea of how many rounds of Aguila Super Extra I have shot in the past 4 or 5 years. None of the cartridges have failed to go bang. Super Extra cycles well in all my pistols and rifles. I consider Super Extra to be comparable or better than CCI Mini mags. I would use Super Extra ammo if I had to use a 22Lr for SD. Lets hope that 22lr self defense, never, ever happens.
Stop buying let it get over stocked until they have to drop price.he spoke truth.make them need us..
I know that this is an old clip, but as a 25 year FFL, I have to respond......during this past shortage, .22 rimfire was NOT available to us dealers, contrary to what this guy claimed. I would go onto my wholesalers sites trying to order rimfire, and except for the match grade stuff that was $10-15 a 50 rd box, there was nothing available to me for years. It wasn't til Trump was elected that the availability opened up again, and I'm convinced that some of that ammo that was suddenly available had been sitting around for a very long time somewhere. I was getting bricks of 22 that were so old that the glue on the boxes had dried out. So, lets not blame the dealers for the past shortage.
i would add too that in the last couple of years i have went from keeping very little to building a nice stockpile for all my firearms , nothing crazy , just nough to be prepared for shortages or whatever . it was expensive as i did it pretty much all at once but at least i have piece of mind now . the 5k rds of 22 and then i keep 1200 of 5.56 and 400 rds of .40 and 9mm as well as 500 rds of buckshot in 00 and 0000. and like the 22 i dont shoot anymore unless i buy the ammo just for that reason .
same thing happened in Ireland, bulk packs were 15Euro not they are 45-55 Euro per pack. some places higher. (that is for 550 rounds of federal ammo) it killing the ranges and the shooters and numbers of people doing it are getting smaller, EU is interfering as usual.
I only subscribed to this because when Heisenberg tells me to "Tread Lightly" , and stop buying this shit, YOU are damn right I'm gonna do what he says. I suggest you do the same.
Gun stores are allowed to make a good profit if they can. Just like it costs $50 to make a TV that resales for $950. But I hear what you're saying....
+Angelo “Paisan” Bonsignore Andy And I have enjoyed telling my previous gun store that their new 22lr pricing is why I now only use them as my FFL for my firearms purchases. And honestly, I've spent an awful lot of time bidding on gunbroker and shopping at buds lately.
yes I recently discovered targetsportsusa and purchase my ammo there..much more afortable
I just looked at targetsportsusa and they are out of all .22 ammo. Out of all but a couple of .223 as well.
keep on looking..put your email in for email notification ..They stock up all the time
So retailers found a new channel through which to market their merchandise and adjusted their process in response to demand. how does that make them crooked?
i totally agree Sarge . we need to stop buying ... everything...(within reason ) . drive as little as possible , etc . , hit em in the wallet .
I quit buying .22 ammo four years ago after I quit bench shooting and realized that I was sitting on over 20,000 rounds.
Holy crap...20,000-
After I retired I took up Bench Rest Shooting and built my own 50 yard range.
I was shooting around 200-300 rounds a day. To do that I was buying 3-4 Bricks a week.
My Grand-kids love target shooting when they come down from the city and I don't have run to town to buy ammo.
Hell I remember buying a box of 50 .22 lr for 99 cents + tax.
Buncha young'uns, y'all are! Haha! In 1971 I was walking in the woods and FOUND a bolt action .22 S,L, LR...I was buying .22's at western auto (on sale) for as low as 59c a box!!! And for the most part, all 3 sizes cost the same!
Good advice Sarge wish we could all do it. Price would drop really quick
that is true, me and my dad went and bought a .22 for my little brother at gander mtn they had no .22 ammo on the shelves. then they asked "are you wanting to buy some ammo" then we said "y'all don't have any do you" then they said we do in the back, and not a single .22 box was on the shelves
An intelligent and insightful commentary.
Very smart man,,pay attention,,
Great advice & well said. I almost bought an AR platform rifle in October just in case. Glad I didn't and six months from now it'll be a buyer's market for weapons & ammo. People sitting on piles of ammo are certain to downsize their stash now that Hillary is toast.
Good message Sir thank you Greentings from Argentina God Bless you!
I always bought my 22 @ walmart which keeps their prices in check, and NEVER at the gun stores which inflate the prices. I have a decent amount now and found out I just don't shoot it as much as other calibers so I should be good for the next ten years or so. The market will eventually crash for .22 and people will feel pretty stupid getting caught up in the faux frenzy
I have also bought my .22 ammo at Walmart. Gun shops have grossly gouged the bullet market. It has taken me a couple years now but I have at the very least 10,000 rounds of .22s which I continue to shoot whenever I want. It's your gun shop that is screwing you over.
Yes you are right. Gouging by gun stores.
He's right stop buying it! Especially if you are not using it they will have to drop their prices to stay in business.
I couldn't agree more, I never paid the ridicules prices for it just conserved what I had on hand. And did buy some a couple years ago no Black Friday sale 15 dollars for 325 pack good deal considering. But you are absolutely right no demand, supply goes up prices come down.
what do you think about stop buying from China? Purhaps quality will go up or perhsps manyfacturing in US will start coming back?
chrisrobins7
I we are so over regulated that we have no choice .
chrisrobins7 I wonder if buy American means anything now? does anyone remember the junk ripoff crap USA made? everything from cars to bikes. how bout all those junk cars in the 70s and 80s and just look at what they have US making now. using plastic oil pans carburetors lawnmower parts and charging you out the ass. that's what we really let happen in every aspect of our lives and money. Anyway UAW member here and even though they still make the dodge ram they shipped my job off to Mexico. So I think there is a way bigger picture here. GMO'S and the cost of living just to start. Look at everything you are buying and let's all drive the price down on everything for everyone. Can anyone look at any laws trade agreements policies ect. And say hmm there is sumpin not right here. Anyway Happy Thanksgiving but there'll be no Thanks given
chrisrobins7 it's not really China that is the problem it's places like WAL-MART and others jacking up the prices 1000% but that comes back to the fact that we let it happen stop buying from Wal-Mart and all the other Chinese sellers like home depot or Lowes target and read the tags if you care at all.
chrisrobins7 it's not really China that is the problem it's places like WAL-MART and others jacking up the prices 1000% but that comes back to the fact that we let it happen stop buying from Wal-Mart and all the other Chinese sellers like home depot or Lowes target and read the tags if you care at all.
chrisrobins7 would you pay 500 dollars on a car part made in USA when in china cost to make is 100 but later do not complaint for exaggerated prices just because is made in USA by lazy fat and sorry ass people, example is black friday with huge discount on products made in china
i know of a time the 50 count box could be got for .99 a box
I'm an old cover. I use to buy it for 50 cents & before sales tax was ever
As a kid I remember when a 50 bx went up to .50 but it was everywhere!
Walmart use to have tons of 22lr.The shelves are empty everytime i go there now.Hyper velocity ammo is almost impossible to get now...
Sir, I mean, Howling Sarge, you're absolutely right. I know my comment is old now since you posted this video last winter in early 2016, but, I agree with you because you ARE RIGHT. You hit all the main points. It didn't just go for .22LR ammo either, it happened to pretty much all common calibers, even less shot calibers were missing on a daily basis.
I admit to paying abit more for .22LR at FIRST, but I only did it twice & after that, I couldn't justify being ripped off anymore for a round that isn't even really powerful at all, if you compare it to .223/5.56x45, 7.62x39, etc. Oddly though, 7.62x39 steel rounds made by TulaAmmo were 1 of the very few calibers in stock on a weekly basis back when the idiots out here were jacking the prices up, etc.
if we would apply this to all, we could change a lot of things
The only time in your life where your vote matters is when you vote with your wallet.
I agree 110%
absolutely true. why do you think most sites are running black Friday and cyber Monday sales in which the sale prices are still high. ..
Absolutely correct, we keep paying it, the price will never go down
I switched over to other rounds. BTW its fun to shoot .22 pellets with nail gun loads.
You are speaking the truth!! Thank you for this video
Jeremy Whitley thank you
When we were kids, a 50 round pack was 49 cents plus 2 cents tax. We always considered 22s a penny per shot. I was at an auction when you couldn’t find any in the stores and a box of 50 sold for $17.
I use to haul ammo by the truck load,so your right!
Not completely true. I'm friends with a gun store owner and he has a hell of a time getting .22 as of 2016
but... but... i only have 20,000 rounds! What will i do!?!
fpstina,,,,,,,,,, have to admit i get nervous if i get under 5,000 rounds
fpstina Do not state how much ammo you may or may not have. the feds monitor these sites.
ghost magnet ..,oooo in that case i only have 1 and 1/2 bullet...
ghost magnet lol i believe you but it was more in jest, i have a lot less than that :)
I'm on there list anyway, trust me it don't matter
Great perspective. Excellent idea.
You are correct Sir, the only way to stop price gouging is to stop buying, then the price goes down, people used to know this.
“The days of the cheap ammo are done.”
LMAO.
Been to the store lately?
Herd mentality.
Patience and true conservatism have served me well.
Never run with the herd.
It's a 2 year old video.
you seem ok. i locked on all real men deserve a 12 valve cummins engine truck. holy crap
i remember as a kid in the 70s and early 80s a box of 50 could be had at the local hardware store for 69 cents . even into the early 2ks it was still cheap. i keep a small stash of about 5k rounds that i wont shoot and just buy my shooting ammo whenever i go shooting. cabelas has plenty , the local wal marts do not because of the hoarders. i also bought a couple of bricks at crazy prices just to insure i had at least some with the way things were going , at least it stays good for decades. but yeah , the paranoia and crooked ass hoarders and ammo dealers are the biggest problem . you are right sir . great video .
I was getting Winchester X hollow points and CCI 100 round boxes for $3 and some change there was plenty on the Shelf I only bought 2 boxes of each and save some for everybody else I just need enough to sight in my scope and have some left over for squirrel season and maybe some for next year
I have quit--President Trump will cause prices to DROP.
heidi Holiday
Definitely! Ruger and Smith &Wesson stocks are dropping like hot potatoes 🤗
Charles Martel your emoji is funny to me.
He's rather anti gun
I have to keep buying because I keep shooting it
Sir, you are absolutely right. This is a supply side based inflation. The manufactures of 22LR, and there are dozens now, are producing on regular basis. If everyone just stops buying 22lr for 3 or 4 months, there will be a huge back log of inventory. They retailers will be forced to dump huge back storeage to clear inventory.
good advice if you can get everyone on board. last .22 ammo i bought i gave about 11 dollars for a box of 550 rounds. that tells you about how long it has been.