[REVEALED] Slicer Secret HOLY GRAIL Strategy "No Losses"
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A football betting strategy that will ALWAYS win? Is the Dr Slicer Secret Betting Strategy a myth or is it actually true?
In 2008, a member of the Betfair forum called "Dr Slicer" posted to reveal that he had found a way to take advantage of a market inefficiency on Betfair. This would allow him to ALWAYS win and NEVER take a loss.
Basically, every time he placed bets using this strategy he would make a 9-12% return.
This sort of thing is what every trader dreams about and after Slicer revealed some hints as to what the strategy was it then led to many people trying to figure it out for themselves.
Some claimed to have cracked the code, others couldn't get their head around it.
But today in this video you will see what we believe was the secret strategy demonstrated on the Betfair Exchange.
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Actualy i did some adaptations. and only lost 1 due not beeing focused.
But this is what i found ,
Dutch the correct score up to 3 goal markets . 3.5 goal market. at 2.7 or better
Back the over 3.5 / lay the under 3.5 . ( your choice )
You wont make huge amounts with one game but you wil make a profit .and dont lose a cent.
Love these vids Ben. Everytime at the beginning u say "Grab yourself a hot drink" I find myself putting the kettle on đ€Łđ
Haha always worth having a beverage, especially if its gonna be a more than 20 minutes video!
Looking at applying this to the Watford/QPR game last night, which I think was a qualifying match.
Worked out well with the half time lay going down, I tried most of the possible angles for the second bet. If you follow what he says literally, I think the 0-0 full time bet is the only one that it can be. All the other bet types can be dismissed for one reason or another. As you stated, due to the price synchronisation these days this bet probably wouldn't work now.
That leaves the two big questions, what could the third bet possibly be. I think the adjustment on the second bet might be the cashing out, this would then be used for the mystery third bet. He guarantees that the system wins every time, so what third bet could possibly guarantee this. Also the profit of 9-12% on every match doesn't seem a workable end result for what can be a two part bet.
As one of the traders that studied "Slicer strategy" i have to say you might be totaly correct. IÂŽm also pretty sure it was the ineficiency of the markets that would getter the returns. That ineficiency it still exists today on another market. Its a not so public strategy i shared with some traders in a meeting in S. Paulo, Brasil. Good job Ben.
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Hey! Long time follower of you Ben. I love your insights. I tried this today but with a little twist. I waited until 10-15 minutes into the first half when the price for FHG was shorter, around 2, but the price on U 0,5 still was at 12-13. It had not shortened much at all. This generated a profit. Small, but still a profit. Cashed out at HT. Thx for your hard work!
I like this idea actually. Since sometimes we see some markets stall whilst others continue as normal and there is possibly opportunities when this happens. The markets can lose their synchronicity at times in-play before quickly catching up.
This could be automated.
You'd need a formula for FHG+0.5 and FT0-0 hitting required odds.
Program would then ID all top level games that qualify pre-KO.
Auto-create shortlist. (No bets at this stage)
As FH goals go in OR either FHG / CS odds change outside qualifying criteria short-listed matches fall away.
Alert ID's games where both odds fall into line for a guaranteed win.
Possibly a tight time window?
Scale up as per liquidity per qualifying game.
Obviously wouldn't be every game but when they come along, you're in.
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Great stuff, interesting looking into the research even if I don't win anything.
Hi Ben. Is it possible that the third bet was the "time of the first goal" and cover for the early 2H potential early goal?
Yeah the simple greening up doesnt follow the third bet and stake adjustment hints, perhaps it was the HT/FT market, the only way you can beat any efficient market is with staking strategies which Slicer hints at and also suggests the strategy would be over at 45 mins
Hi, need to make a different. This strategy could be work when there is no favourite. For the celtic match, you have to invert the strategy, lay 0-0 and back under 0,50ht. When there is a big favorite people think that the Gol arrive and 0-0 odd will be high when 1st half finish without goal.
Would be interesting to try!
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Once again a great video. Well done Ben.
Thanks mate, always a pleasure!
That's so weird. I only tried this strategy for the first time last night. Lost money because I didn't know what i was doing so back to the drawing board but there's definitely something to it. Thanks for the demo Ben.
I think for Correct Score 0 - 0 to cover the Lay of Half Time 0- 0, it needs to be a match where a first half goal is expected. If it doesn't arrive, then the first half needs to be 'cold', i.e. few shots on and off target, few corners and dangerous attacks, making the Full Time 0 - 0 more likely and therefore lower odds at half time, allowing a green-up of the Correct Score market to cover the Half Time 0 - 0 loss.
I think you are right but only when the markets were less efficient. These days the correct score and half time markets are very in sync and the price on 0-0 at half time is already factored in. A cold first half wonât affect the price that much in higher liquidity matches but it can still happen which was maybe why it worked in Bundesliga 2.
My conclusion is that while it can work it just isnât reliable.
Hi Ben, please can you show us a time consuming strategy or something related to time?
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Well done Ben I've been pondering this for years, the solution ended up being simpler than I imagined.
Cheers Paul. Sometimes the most simple answer is the correct one, I would love if someone else has a better theory!
This will be very great nice one
I lay the draws on obvious matches, in play at the end of the game, as well as back the winner and lay the loser and back correct score.
if it's an obvious draw... I back the draw and lay both losers and back correct score.
Hi Ben, what about strategy in tight games, lay 0-0, back 1-1? I don't know is better back in ft or 1ht
Does laying btts works with this strategy?
Cashing out after first goal scored.
Thanks Ben for interesting video & good luck everyone.
Is it not the case that the Celtic one failed because they were such a clear favourite? Even at half-time, the market is expecting goals at any minute. This probably needs to be done with teams closer in ability (odds) or when the game is plodding along with little action.
There could be something laying draw /draw market or backing it or backing 0/0 full time and laying draw ht with an additional bet , very complicated and those betfair markets are all linked in to the match odds, whatever you try you come out break even at best.
Great video Ben. Another thing that would affect the 0-0 full time price would be a red card in the first half
Very good observation. So maybe there could be some sort of angle to be had hoping a red card could shake the market up a bit. The 0-0 tends to drift on red cards so not sure if it would help this particular strategy but it is worth a thought.
At HT with the score 0-0
The FT 0-0 price will be lower (than the average) if the first half produced lots of chances or was an open, fast paced game.
The FT 0-0 price will be higher (than the average) if the first half produced few chances and was a tight, slow paced game.
Therefore, perhaps, the Braunschweig v Fortuna Dusseldorf game was not a question of market inefficiency (like perhaps, it was back in the day) but price adapting to current match conditions. In this case it produced a healthy green but in the Celtic game, the FT 0-0 price was probably slightly higher than the average, due to perhaps, a slow, uneventful first half?
Just a thought. If you can identify a match-up where plenty of shots (more than the average) will be had during the 1st half, if it remains 0-0 by HT the price of the FT 0-0 could be low enough for a green. Perhaps this is why Dr. Slicer chose a game with a well fancied home favourite? Great video though!
Since you only have to bet on HT nil-nil , it's possible to bet it on a traditional bookmaker?
"may need to adjust bet 2"... could suggest sometimes needed... not always, you're always adjusting the second bet by cashing out lol. gonna spend my week on this, could get messy. are there any markets that don't exist anymore?
Try testing with your half ball method :P
I honestly don't know how you managed to take profit in the first game. I've been doing a trial on a spreadsheet, and I am yet to come across a game, 0-0 at half time, that allows the cash out to achieve profit. I've tried all different kinds of games and every one of them would have me at a loss!! I don't understand why the odds were so low at half time? Does anyone know?
The simple answer is that the market in the match was inefficient, perhaps the pace was much slower than anyone expected? That is the problem with the method is this sort of thing isn't guaranteed.
Finally I got the 3rd bet..it has two scenarios..but i confused in stakes
Is this strategy make every trade profit without risk sir
Actually there is a way to predict (more or less) where the 0-0 FT will go at HT. There is a specific market (Prematch) that advice you how much you will earn from 0-0 FT drop. If 0-0 HT odd is less than that predicted loss you will know everything before. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. Spreds are your friends.. Have a nice day
Hi Briesanji, could you tell us which market you are talking about?
What about back U0.5 half time goals and lay the half time 0-0 as insurance then lay 0-0 for 2nd half obviously there is a risk but more goals are scored in the second half
those strategies are like miracle. you check them internet. ok. you try them. ok. three days later you are again checking new strategy. who ever put here some working thing is or crazy genius or idk is there any other option? when i see some people ( will not mention names here in tube but very much established figures) and they make videos where i spot mistakes. sometimes i have to doubt everything what i see here. i spot some discrepancies in markets too but question is this : how can i use them to create money regularly or spot them. there is tons of things that can happened one after another and then suddenly stops work for no obvious reason. another thing is where i can gather so many data and stack them together to see realistic picture of what is going on? i do not say there is no possibility to do that but it is mammoth task
Hi Ben. Great video, I used to play with this before lockdown.
What I used to do though (and I think you'll like this) is use the half time bet at kick off to just cover my liability on correct score. However, I would then drip feed into the half time lay, increasing my profit for less liability.
In the event of no goal, I have more profit on the CS.
In the event of an early goal I will break even, but a goal from 15 mins would give me a profit.
I'm going to get stuck back into this today!
I do like the sound of this mate, might play around with that!
Hi mate when you say drip feed into the half time lay what do you mean.i get the break even bit.but don't you need to put more money into correct score market to have more profit on correct score just a bit confused lol.
So lay 0-0 half time to cover liability on 0-0 full time.then drip lay 0-0 half time or full time 0-0 that's the bit I'm confused on lol.cheers for your help by the way
@@nomoretax so example I back over 0.5 first half goals which is the same as lay 0-0 halftime.so say ÂŁ100 at 1.25 so i will win ÂŁ25 if there is a goal in first half so that covers my 0-0 full time liability if my liability is ÂŁ25 pound.i understand all that but if I drip feed in first half I'm gonna need to put more money into 0-0 full-time because if no goal in first half I've lost all my drip feed bets on first half.sorry for all the questions lol
@@nomoretax ok I just wondered what happened if no goal was scored in first half would I then had more money on correct score lines thanks for your help.
What does green up on the correct score market actually mean?
As I see it this is about ensuring that things are properly balanced. Which basically means you have to make a choice between a cold beer and a hot chocolate.
Not at all, have both... Live dangerously đ
Hmm interesting wording of the riddle . Double meanings and a bets that are countere of eachother.
A great brain tease for the summer months
Is this also possible in a different way.with normal betting..so no lay bet and back bet or something..just normal bets
Much more unlikely, an edge that way would vanish quickly. Taking advantage of the in-play inefficiency would be the best direction to look.
As with all statistical theories this makes fascinating reading to me and it will keep me occupied for quite a while testing out some other options, with very small stakes. Many thanks for sharing
You are welcome. It has kept many others occupied for a decade now đ
Financial or sporting, the day someone works out a way to drain the market.....the market will cease to exist. No one who had found that would 'take just what they need', they would empty it. A punt with zero risk doesn't exist unless it's bent. Shaking someone else out of a position is how the markets work and what keeps them turning.
Yes that is true, and much less likely to share it unless the opportunities were financially limited like I expect they were here.
So if a goal flies in Minute 45-55 before it hits your GET OUT odds for a profit, you lose .. how much.. ?
What happens if a team scores in the dying minutes( which quite often happens) nobody is going match a lay bet. So you lose both bets.
In the dying minutes of what time of the match? Can you be a bit more specific?
@@SportsTradingLife if a team scores the first goal of the game in the last two minutes of extra time.
There is another version where you back 0v1 and 1v0 full time score at kick off and accept a lower profit on the first half market. You can then dutch some scores in the second half to try and recover a half time 0v0 as you already have the 0v1 and 1v0 .This can work ok until a black swan game bites you on the arse big time! Plus you really need to know what you are doing. Ultimately as bob says it's bollocks :)
I tried this on Stoke v Watford but Watford the away team were favourite at 2.50 i layed the HT 0-0 at 2.60 backed FT 0-0 at 8.80 now for this to work you would need the FT 0-0 odds to be a third less at HT in this case 2.93 or round up to 2.94 this is what happened as it was 0-0 at HT i put a lay up of 3.0 but wasnt matched but some 3.05 was but then the price moved out to big money in the hundreds to 3.15 to back 3.20 to lay so taking the 3.20 a loss would be incurred so i put a lay bet up of 3.10 which would show a small profit which eventually taken but a very small profit for a lot of grief.I had a look at the Qpr v Derby game but the same FT 0-0 price 9.0 and HT 0-0 lay price 2.80 and the HT 0-0 price ended up at 3.25 so wouldnt of worked.Also it seems the higher the FT 0-0 price the less likely this is going to work
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this year u must to tRADE UNDER 3,5 4,5 5,5 GOALS IT BETTER
It was a load of bollocks then and even more so now. Cashing out is the 3rd bet tho...seriously lay off that hot chocolate đ
I will stick to the beer in future mate!
since when was Stockport ever a "CLEAR" favourite home or away vs West Ham?
Beer and hot chocolate?! I see you too like to live dangerously
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Thanks for the video. A question - In which cases betfair suspends entire games? (yesterday they did it several times).
Then you should have a back up exchange to switch to .
Exactly, another element of risk to the "risk free" bet.
@@carlscruton4723 Thanks for your reply. My question was - why are games being suspended for the entire time? What would cause it?
As for a backup exchange - I can only access 2 exchanges : OrbitX (which should be a 'Betfair replica') and Matchbook. All other exchanges are restricted in my country (including the original Betfair). Is Matchbook reliable in your opinion?
@@SportsTradingLife The feed is a 3rd party so if they go down ,betfair cant do anything ,simple thing like just pressing a button sometime , but i do 2 simple strategy in 2nd half ,but have another exchange just incase
@@zvikaso Matchbook is reliable. I used it for years for my matchbetting without any issues. However there are less matches to select from as well as less markets.
Help me pick teams pls,I lost ÂŁ110 on Sydney today vs Perth trying to lock in some profitđ©đ©
Under 0.5 goals is a sexy play if the stars align at 0:0 ht
Away to try this out on the Man City and Bayern games tonight
Best of luck mate!
Tried something new and worked great on the Brentford game. ÂŁ20 loss on the City game though
I MESSED UP LAST NIGHT GAME BUT LOST ÂŁ2 ONLY BUT MADE 40 ON LOW MONEY DOWN - I HAVE DONE THIS WITH 7 and won 7! 100% - Back 1-1 and Lay Draw FT on the game - I only cash out if it is close and at 2-1 either way,
If you lay HT 0.0 and back FT 0.0 can't you then just back over 0.5 2nd half goals at HT if your HT bet loses?
Thats actually worth a look. Did you trial this and track any results?
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Ben, I find it just a little incomprehensible why you are showing a strategy that you are unsure if it works! A wee bit crazy if you ask me!
I would just use the Lay the 00 at half time and back the 00 at full time. You would then cash out if the home team favourite and away team showed dominance and they were if fact balanced. This strategy is basically saying the the teams in the day played worst than expected in the case of the home team favourit and the away team played better. Thus the market miss priced the pre-match outcome.
In football, a highly variable match with players and teams being off it is expected, but for this miss pricing to occure for the entire 90min you will have to a very good game reader and be on the edge of your seet biting your toenails..... litterally.
This chap was a chancer bet fair would not allow a winner to advertise a stragety . My theory he helped boost betfair and there plan worked
Do one about VDW. Another very controversial method.
Under 0.5 goal market has higher odds than 0-0 correct market
Well, let's see. Albirex Nigata-Mito was 1.7 before kick off. So, lay HT Over 0.5 5 USD@3.4 (12 USD liability) and back 0-0 CS 4 USD@14. HT was 0-0, so -12 USD for laying HT Over 0.5 and laying 0-0 CS 12.44 USD@4.4 for "8.02 USD green up" . The loss is -4 USD....
Hi Ben, I would assume the 10 - 12% profit margin would be based upon the total amount staked across the different markets. So ÂŁ100 staked (Risked) in total would yeild ÂŁ10 - ÂŁ12, but i feel this win goes against the odds as 75% of football matches there is a goal scored in the first half, only 8% of matches result in 0-0, this contradicts the over 2.5 goals market strategy so it must all be down to game selection...
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My opinion is: Pre-match Lay 0-0 halftime and back 0-0 full time (with stakes who make you even if gol goes in in first half) if halftime finish 0-0 back over 0.5 for second half if not don't place 3rd and you are clear but you will have opportunity for free bet for 0-0 full time
Similar to the video then but doing it over 2 markets?
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Laying 0-0 is dumb just back over 0.5????
Oke found that slicer actualy works , but not in the way people expect.
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I have a football system i have been using and as fantastic results , way better than this .
Took some time to get my head round it but have got to grips with it now .
If people where paying for this then my system must be worth a small fortune .
and if the goal is in the first half? we are losing a lot
No. We are making a profit.
@@SportsTradingLife hm,yes. but I didnât understand what odds were needed for 0: 0 of the whole match. here is the leipzig union match of berlin. lost 0: 0 in the first half @ 3.65. And back 0: 0 before the match 15.5. to the break 0: 0. And now the coefficient is 4.6. And we have a loss?
@@elisovalexMd Yes that is the problem, it is hard to find the consistent win on the 0-0 half time
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Bet 1 lay 0-0 HT result.
Bet 2 can only be bet for 0-0 HT result
Bet 3, lay against a draw, because most games end in a winner
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I know the exactly what "Slicer's Bet" is: IT DOES NOT EXIST BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. "Dr Slicer" was/is just simply a troll.
The amount of people that must of wasted hours on this .at least this time it was only 32 minutes to prove it dont work now .
I know what you mean Carl, that same time could have been used by many learning to trade and improving discipline. Much better use of time! Hope you are good!
@@SportsTradingLife Think we was all guilty at the start ,but it then clicks once you blown a few banks ,all is good thanks.
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I have two questions for you
1. you have a document with the way you tested the strategy on several bets?
2. I honestly didn't understand what you do at Celtic's match, do you cash out and accept the loss?
Thanks!
In the Celtic match, the profit on the CS market was not enough to cover the loss from the half-time 0-0 so yes we would have to accept a loss, since if a goal is scored after this we lose on BOTH markets now.
about 5 years ago i was drinking with slicer and he got well pissed,anyway i got him to tell me the secret,needless to say i got well pissed myself and forgot the exact instructions,ive asked him since to tell me again and he just laughed and said you had your chance,he still buys me a good few beers though so i cant moan.
I could never get to grips or make any money with f/ball trading which is why I'm sticking with financial trading and my two passive income programmes.
Then why are you watching this video about football trading KJ?
Cool story KJ
@@deangray6994 Why not? It's free, informative & there maybe something I'm interested in. Don't dismiss the future because of the past.
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could it not still work with match selection on lower leagues where where both teams are like 2.8 and the draw is 3.0? therefore the 0-0 plummits by HT
Cheers
You would be surprised to find that the market is still not as efficient as you think it is. Especially if you focus on less prominent matches
I've tried this in the last 24hours and I've had all winners. The only thing that may screw this from my POV is a Betfair system glitch or an error on your part
EDIT: I feel that timing of your entries and odds selection could be a critical aspect to make this work. I've been noticing patterns while simulating without using real cash. I dont have nay real theories yet.....but I'm convinced there could yet be a viable avenue here.
Glad to hear it, I think you are right about the less prominent matches for sure!
I think I know how it works but Im not willing to post it on here for all to see. If you want my thoughts Ben then flick me an email.
Hey Paul only Ben can ask you?
Can you send it to atfrantz@gmail.com
why not
We are mates.dont be like that
I bet you can turn water to wine too Paul.
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