Computer Specs For Music Production In 2024 | RAM, Storage, & CPU
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- How much RAM do you need to record music? Which processor do you need and how much storage capacity? In this video, Jim Slick is sharing the recommended computer specifications for recording and mixing music.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:13 - CPU / Processor
01:35 - RAM
03:04 - Storage
07:14 - Laptop vs Desktop
08:27 - I/O
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Wow. This guy cuts right through it. Very clear and concise. This is going to help a lot of people. Cheers.
No joke… real
Deal info right there
Not at all. This guy leaves out so much necessary information he might as well just not say anything at all.
If you're a beginner, and your looking on eBay for a used PC, and you find an dell with an i7 and 16gb of ram, it might look good... But not if it's a 4770 with ddr3 1600 that is a decade old.
You need _way more information_ than what this guy is spewing. If you only listened to him, you can still make very bad decisions. So much so that I wouldn't even watch this video as it's going to be misleading.
This is the single most inspiring, professionally put together channel for audiophiles out there.
Glad to hear that, Neo! Thanks.
@@AudioUniversity absolutely agree, love you guys, thank you for everything amd lately of all the vids this has helped me the most as its the next part of my journey . Kind regards AU
I’ve been looking for two years on a video that hit all of these topics on specs to music production and especially laptop vs desktop. You guys couldn’t of hit it better.. thank you 🙏🏾
This.Is.Amazing. No bs and straight to the point. Loved it!
This was EXTREMELY helpful for me. Thanks!!
This vid probably got you a lot of subscribers. This gentleman has knowledge. GREAT interview.
God bless and love this man for just getting to the point. You earned my subscription
This is the second video I've seen from this channel. So far I've seen nothing but practical, useable advice. Super, super helpful.
Subscribed. Thanks.
I was looking for this! Thanks for doing this.
I have researched this to no end and not once have I found anything close to this video explaining quickly and concisely what I needed to know. Fantastic job! Saving this.
Great video. I hope you continue to produce more of these videos. I use both mac and pc (powerful pc I have build) and both do their job excellent. My main DAW is Pro Tools and use Logic most for field tracking. Btw, I hit the subscribed button after watching this video.
remembered subscribing 2 years ago when I just started audio school and you had a few thousand subscribers, great to see you gaining subscribers so quickly!.
As usual, very useful videos. Thanx x sharing. 👍🏼
I found this video incredibly helpful. I'm in dire need to upgrade my current laptop since over time the latency has gotten unacceptable. This video gave me some great tips.
Straight forward ...I love it , thanks for this video
Thank you for this review, very concise and to the point.... Could you please recommend few laptops for Beginner, Intermediate & Professional levels of both music recording & Mixing? Thank you.
This is a legit video, thank you!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH! WHEW! There are soooo many options and ideas and options on the market.
There are a lot of options, Mark. It can be overwhelming. That's why I called Slick Audio and had them design the PC for me specifically for how I'd use it. Having a powerful computer has made a huge difference in my workflow! It just does what I ask...
Best explanation on this topic! Cheers!
Excellent information, thank you.😊
Thanks so much for this video. I'm in the market for a new laptop/PC.
Very helpful, consulting videos for an upcoming upgrade. Hopefully i can find other videos with this kind of clear information
Great video. Very helpful. Thank you
This has helped me in leaps n bounds I've seen every youtube video on how to fix clicks n pops on fl studio,omnispere2,arcade, on how to run them all together without the dreaded clicks n pops i had enough ram to run them but i kept running into the click a pop thing i was told it maybe my processor i have a i5 ive had my pc since 2016 its works perfectly but not for music production considering now i see i have to purchase a new pc with either an i7-i9 processor which is fine aslong as i dont get anymore clicks n pops thanks again for this imformative info
Thank you, super helpful
Awesome! Thanks for this great video.
Very helpful video. Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful, Mr. A! Thanks!
There are ways to optimize your system's limits. For example, if you have an audio track that you have a lot of effects on you You can bounce that audio with the effects and you won't have to worry about running the VST's while you're playing the track saving computer processing speed.
@@yot330 once the file becomes a .wav, its just playing audio from the file and the VSTs are turned off. Saves massive space but it can get annoying
Or in Ableton 12 freeze and flatten which turns the Midi into an audio file
I am setting mine up with a separate drive (SSD) for plugins and I am running Ubuntu Studio
Great info, thanks!
This was SO HELPFUL! I thought more codes would help but it looks like I need more Ram and and SSD!
Thank you for this helpful video and sharing tips and recommendations that really make a difference. I am a VST instrumentalist/e-drummer and latency has always been my biggest challenge and concern, especiallly when playing live or in real time with other bandmates. I have gone back to using an older PC (16GB RAM) with an i5-7600 processor and 4-cores running at 3.8GHz because it has given me best results with having the lowest latency. The downside is that it can't be upgraded to Windows 11. My newer and Windows 11 upgraded PC (32GB RAM) with an i7-9700 processor and 8-cores running at almost 2.1GHz doesn't perform as well when it comes to latency, but I do use it for mixing and some mastering.
May I ask what PC is that older one?
@@jorgecisneros1801 , It's basically a repurposed and upgraded Dell OptiPlex 7050 MT. It's not great for gaming but comes in handy when I need to record VST instrument parts with only a couple of tracks at a time and no other plug-ins.
If you don't have a lot of money consider this.
I've got an Intel i5, 8 GB of RAM, C: and D: (SSD), but I use an exterior 1TB disk to store all my music projects. With proper PC care the i5 is quite capable of running up to 400 tracks, up to 150 VST without crashing on my 2020 HP laptop. So if you don't have the budget for an i7 or i9, don't get dicouraged by that. Exterior disks are still way cheaper than upgrading to 32 GB in a lot of places on planet earth.
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Did you just say 400 tracks at the same time??????? that is more than enough!
@@jacotay2827It's also b/s.
Great advices and recommandations
Excellent Video, thanks for all that.
Glad it was helpful!
wow cool thanks for the info!
Hi, hope you are doing well, I am about to build a computer . my question is should I install my DAW in the M.2 NVMe SSD like my windows to get the best result? and if so, what about the audio samples I am going to call in my daw, should I store them in a 2.5 SSD or I will be good to go with a HDD for them? and a general question. can I skip having 2.5 ssd and only get a decend capacity of M.2 NVMe SSD.
I cant help but think that just about anything modern will out perform the 15 year old refurbished maxed out Dell i had before i took an 8 year hiatus from recording to work on live instrumentation and singing. Id still have 30+ tracks going but of course i play all live instrumentation one by one and vocal tracks. I had nuendo and waves diamond bundle running pretty smooth on there. Looking forward to seeing what a modern set up is like though! Finally getting it going again!
Very Great Video Bro
always good stuff here.
Thanks, Shane!
Great info, thank you.
I was running an i3 with a 250 gb HDD 6 gb of ram for my recording computer. I made it work! Two weeks ago I upgraded to an i9 with a 2tb ssd, 2tb hdd, 32 gb ram. I'm absolutely blown away.
Exactly what brand and model ..???
Could you tell that...?...
The former and latest...?
Thanx in advance...
Which i9 do you have?
right on cue! thank you
I love most Audio University videos but I'm not a fan of this one. I understand you wanted to keep the video simple and short, and you _do_ admit that there's no one-size-fits-all solution, but one set of recommendations for "music production" is just too vague to be helpful to the varying use cases of real people. The components recommended in this video are good for professional, highly-produced multitrack records with dozens to hundreds of audio streams, sample-based virtual instruments and effects plugins. And while that's the most glossy kind of music production, I'm willing to bet it's also relevant for the smallest subset of your audience. 7 minutes into the video you mention that a laptop is okay for a 24-track simultaneous recording session - honestly, how many bedroom producers watching this channel will exceed that?
I agree that it's good to keep single-core performance in mind. Ryzen CPUs went unmentioned though. The claim that 16 GB of RAM is "probably enough for small, beginner recordings" and 32 GB is an "extremely important" update is quite wild. I recorded and mixed a ~100 track project on an 8 GB computer (granted, it was at its very limits). And storage requirements are dependent on the kind of music you produce. The drive containing the OS, the DAW and plugins doesn't have to be a terabyte. My two-year-old installation of Windows 10 is 25 GB, and DAWs are
I very much appreciate this critique, @Saku. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts so constructively. I’ll definitely consider this feedback for future videos.
Thanks for sharing ~
He had some amazing insights. The core stuff & M.2 vs SSD are gems. Thanks a lot Kyle! I'll use this video a lot for first semester students.
Thanks, Juan Carlos!
Did he say it's better to use a 2.5 ssd for the operating system, because the nvme would bottleneck when the bandwidth is too high?
@@Rivanni 4:48
Thnkew brother 💛
Thanks for this overview. - But I would argue a few things. - First, the RAM-speed isn't discussed at all, which is quite important. Not that it should be the fastest, but it should be fast enough, cause it could make or break the system's responsiveness, both in how it responds in an immediate sense, but also in terms of loading and unloading stuff. - It's literally your working-memory, so you don't want it to be cheap and sluggish memory, for which you need to look at the clock-speeds as well as the timings.
On top of that, you can definitely use external drivers, it just depends on what kind of interface you use. Sure, some average USB-connectivity isn't going to help, but if you get the fastest USB or any of those production-grade I/O-solutions, those are blazing fast. - Those and external drives exist for production-work as well. You shouldn't just get your average consumer "take your MP3s and JPEGs with you" kind of drives.
Brilliant video
This is for FL STUDIO or any DAW
Might be a dumb question but do you use the fastest NVME (Fire Cuda 530 1TB, up to 7000Gbps) for the OS or do you use the fast one for storage? and is it possible to install omnisphere on the main OS drive and the Library on a storage drive or install omnisphere on a storage drive along with the library separate from the OS? Or how is your setup I'm curious to know, any suggestions are welcomed and what is the most optimal way to install plugins. Thanks in advance.
So I have a
SAMSUNG SSD 850 EVO 500GB
SAMSUNG SSD 860 EVO 500GB
SAMSUNG SSD 970 EVO 1TB (NVME)
SAMSUNG SSD 960 EVO 256GB (NVME)
FIRE CUDA 530 1TB (NVME) new
if you had these which would you use for OS and which for plugins or do you just use all plugins in the OS drive?
Sorry for being all over the place in how I ask my questions. Thank you
I have an HP Elitedesk 800 G1 (2015) with a few changes.
i7 4790k 4 Cores @ 4.0Ghz
32 Gb Ram
1Tb Samsung SSD(Primary)
2 Tb Samsung SSD (Secondary)
Everything runs good with no problems or crashes.
What motherboard it uses?
Man that generation of cpus is still fantastic, despite being 8+ years old they really aged well.
@@wanmeireles7182 I'm using the stock motherboard.
@@dirg3music Yes is a great CPU, I can't overclok because I'm using the stock motherboard but it's fine, I'll be upgrading in the future but for now I can't complain.
Cheers!
Thanks, guys!
Thanks for watching!
Bro just went straight to the point that's what we want😊
what is the best i7- 12700k board for audio production? Most connectivity as possible ? Does every z690 have wi fi ?as I understand, all z690 boards have ThunderboltEX4 connectivity.
Good basic info.
I'm a re-recording mixer in post production using Reaper as the primary platform, so it's mostly playback with the ocaasional virtual instrument action. 2000-20000 files usually. Dialogue tracks are the heaviest, and I run 40-200 usually.
Projects sit on an M2 SSD, video from a separate SATA SSD, backups to spinning drives. I'm on an AMD platform where the CPUs clock very high if few cores are utilized. AMD CPUs do better with RAM of 3600 MHz. Latency is king but I've found my 64 GB of 3600/16-18-18-38 Crucial 2x32GB kit to be reliable and sufficiently fast.
System Spec: Ryzen 9 5950X Cpu, 2x32 GB Crucial 3600 (BL2K32G36C16U4B), Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master v1.2(has TB option), Noctua NH-D15 cpu cooler(68C max temp at full CPU usage), Phanteks P500A D-RGB case(excellent airflow and quiet with fan curve adjusted), a quiet GTX1070 GPU, Corsair RMi 750Watt power supply, Samsung 860EVO 500GB&2TB, Samsung 970Plus 1TB M.2, 12 TB spinning disk(and various other external USB drives for backups). I mix at 256 samples latency. Recording at 64 is no problem usually.
The audio interface plays a major part in low latency production as well. If you can afford it, I do recommend RME for their top-tier drivers. Good drivers trump almost everything else, so pick this item carefully. My Fireface UC has served me well for 12 years, as have the Babyface, other Fireface units and so many more for fellow mixers. The UADs are great for tracking but for mixing they are not necessary. Most decent interfaces are great for recording a few sources. Audient comes to mind. No matter what is recommended, check reports on driver performance. RME is amongst the best here but things have gotten a lot better everywhere in the last few years.
Dope setup! I've seen a few benchmarks showing noticeable improvements using a 4 stick ram configuration over 2 sticks, if u ever get 2 more let us know if it scales in real world audio use!
@@RandomRelapse I chose doubled sided Ram sticks for that reason, and a mainboard that offers very good memory compatibility. Hope I got that terminology right. It‘s been over half a year since I did all the research. :)
I've heard of some compatibility issues between AMD and Reaper. How was your experience?
@@redxxfour So far there have been no problems. Not done tests that border on the edge of what's possible though. I tried to pick all recommended hardware, such as 3600 DD4 RAM, running with an FSB of 1800 MHz(1/2 of RAM speed).
@Airon You are definitely right about the RME products. I currently have the HDSPe AIO and I will not ever use another brand other than RME. I've used several audio interfaces in the past 20 years and they were no where near as good as RME's equipment and drivers. The RME interface has not messed up once in the past 5 years. There's something to be said for uninterrupted workflow and creativity.
in terms of Ram .. Which Clockrate should be used and what about the CAS Latency ? now with new DDR 5 the Clockrate is extremly high but also the CAS Latency is much more higher as still with DDR4 . can you tell something about the Specs of Ram for Audio Workstations ? Would be a DDR4 3200 Mhz ram with a CAS Latency of 16 a good choice ?
Fantastic. And apologies if this is off topic, but as someone sitting on the fence between Mac and Windows right now, it would be great to see the same harsh glare of truth cast on the Mac M1 machines.
I have an intel i5 and 8 gbs of ram (2 x 4 gb)
I guess i should upgrade to 32 gb? (working a lot with outboard fx from strymon)
Can I then buy one 32 gb and pair it with the second 4 gb?
CPU heat can be negated by sufficient cooling. I have a 18 core / 36 thread i9 CPU with noctua cooler that I installed a second fan. This is in a 4U rackmount case so a smaller height cooler and fans were needed in order to physically fit.
I haven't bothered with overclocking on this machine as I would rather longevity & reliability over performance however I did go with a top end motherboard that supports overclocking so I have a choice should it become an issue in the future. I would only ever overclock a machine if it becomes necessary and the only alternative is to purchase faster machine/components.
Every fan in this machine is variable speed Noctua controlled by the mainboard and ramps up only when needed. This keeps it reasonably quiet under load.
I have other requirements for the machine where I have virtualization of multiple hosts in virtual networks so it has 128G of RAM (50% capacity) and is also why I went with 18 core / 36 threads.
I went with two 64Gig packs with the same timing/stepping as 128G packs were sold out before my order could be processed and it turned out cheaper to by 2 x 64G packs than 1 x 128G pack.
I went with 2TB nVme Drives for the Operating System Drive and two Primary Data Drives. (Primary in the sense that current projects being worked on are stored there).
The motherboard is "workstation" grade so it comes with 2 x nVme pcie drive slots and 1 x u.2 pcie connector.
I used Icy Dock ToughArmour Removable U.2 M.2 SSD Enclosures. These can be connected via ... to u.2 pcie connector which generally supports hot-swap.
I was forced to buy in the middle of the supply shortage so I had to compromise on the mainboard. The best I could get was one with two M.2 PCIe ad one u.2 PCIEe connectors.
I would have rather got a board with as many u.2 connectors as they support hot swap with a bit of bios configuration and drivers installed.
Each nVme PCIe drive in the drive bays connect to the mainboard using SilverStone CPS04 Mini SAS SFF-8643 to Mini SAS SFF-8643 cables to the u.2 connector and StarTech u.2 to M.2 adapter to connect to the two other nVme PCIe slots respectively.
I also have a spare 2TB nVme Drive as mirror image of the Operating System Drive.
When needed, it is inserted into the Icy Dock M.2 NVMe SSD to PCIe 3.0 x4 Removable SSD Mobile Rack for PCIe Expansion Slot card. This can be set in the BIOS to become the boot drive should disaster strike. As it is a contingency drive, it does not remain in the machine when not in use.
I had some 8TB WD Red Pro drives gathering dust on the shelf so I loaded them up as secondary storage for now. I had purchased a set of 5 x 20TB WD Red Pros but I decided to put them into a NAS instead.
I have some 4RU Rack Mount cases I have used for the last 10 years. The cases have two sets of 3 x 5.14" drive bays and three sets of 2.5" drive bays. I loaded them with two sets of the Icy Dock Black 5x3.5" in 3x5.25" Hot Swap SATA HDD Cages, The Icy Dock ToughArmor MB834M2K-B 2 Bay M.2 PCIe 3.0/4.0 NVMe SSD Mobile Rack for External 3.5” Drive Bay and Icy Dock Black Industrial Full Metal 2 x 2.5" SATA/SAS/SSD for 3.5" Front Device Bay.
So this machine has 2 removable NvMe 2TB drives and 2 hot-swap 2TB NvMe drives, 5 x 8TB WD Red Pro SATA Drives and is ready to accept another 5 x 3.5" SATA as well as 2 x 2.5" SATA drives. The Mainboard has 8 SATA ports and I installed a host bus adapter to cater to the shortfall.
I also built a custom NAS using 8 core intel xeon on an entry level Intel Server board, 64GB RAM with 10G Ethernet . It houses 5 x 20TB WD Red Pros.
The Operating System is TrueNAS Scale that serves network shares to the workstation and has a secured backup volume.
I do not use RAID, rather ZFS which does not rely on hard drive controller for the redundancy. So if the board/hard drive controller fails, the drives can simply be relocated to another machine. The operating system can be installed onto a system drive and a back-up of the configuration uploaded and we're back in business!
I use StorageCraft ShadowProtect SPX to perform incremental back-ups every 15 minutes. This can be periodically switched off if it interferes with very heavy a/v processing.
The TrueNAS runs a Virtual Machine that does the image management and when I have time I plan to install the workstation's back-up nVme Drive for the operating system and run StorageCraft's headstart restore. This will keep the installation on the back-up drive current up to a week just in case it takes time to notice an infection. So if the main system drive fails or there is corruption/infection, the back-up drive is ready to move across and not much time needed to restore the changes over the last week.
When selecting the Processor, Mainboard and SSD Drives note there is currently PCIe gen 3 and PCIe Gen 4. The later has double the throughput/performance capacity.
With SSD, there are different types of NAND chips that impact performance and longevity.
I have been a computer technician, network and systems administrator since the early 90's. Many of the companies I have worked for were the major manufacturers and have repaired countless computers of all sorts. I would only ever resort to a laptop or an all-in-one if I had no other choice. Desktops are more flexible, expandable and easier to maintain. I would rather have a travel case for a desktop and take it with me. That being said, I would not leave a heavy graphics card in the machine if it is going to be handled by couriers or baggage handlers who think they are football players.
If you spend $50 more on a product than you needed to, you have invested that $50 into future proofing. If you spend $50 less on a product you needed to, you have wasted all of your money on a product that cannot do the job or if you persist in using it will continue to cost you money in lost productivity.
Whatever the specification is for the software you aim to use, I would double it and then you will have a machine that is more likely to still be able to do the job efficiently in five years time. Always factor the cost of replacement in five years. Every year it lasts longer than that is a bonus. Good quality well maintained systems can last as long as 10 years but you will probably repurpose it to a less demanding role in 5.
Thank you!
I have a cheap walmart desktop HP with AMD Ryzen 3, 8GB Ram and it works fine for what I do. Just vocal recording over mp3 instrumental using plugins... no problem! I usually have no more than 15-20 tracks at most.. and I use BUS tracks for plugins instead of applying plugins to every track.
What’s a bus ?
So would you say Intel > AMD for music production then? Could you use a Ryzen chipset for a good music production build?
Great channel!
Thank you.
What a great video!!!
I had a Acser laptop I5 7 8 years ago but it broke 5 years ago. I recently got a used 3 year old HP laptop works fine most of the time.
Acer just as in general my nitro i7 acting up
what do you think of mac pro 2013 with 12core Xeon, 1tb SSD, 3g amd D500, 64gb ecc ram
in the aspect of CPU, what if I do the both live performances and mixing? and also some video editing stuffs.
Can you guys give some tips?
There were some exaggerations and strange strange info for 2022.
Most current gen i5 K skus are capable of sustaining their higher clocks at lower heat/noise than i7 and i9 variants. This is a big consideration for those building a home studio.
If this guys is saying that core counts don’t matter, but that i7 and i9 is where to ‘start looking’ or that i5 is budget is completely backwards. This is conflicting info and an increase in models 5 > 7 > 9 mean more cores in desktop skus - especially across all generations.
But, if you are buying a Mac, maybe that is a different conversation.
Example - in the real world of PC components, all recent i5 desktop CPUs can run circles around most DAWs, plugins, and sample libraries for professional use. Basically anyone building a music production computer could easily be going with a CPU like the current gen i5 13400. It’s got 10 cores and 16 threads and can sustain 4.5 across its 6 ‘P’ cores basically indefinitely with a good cooler.
Testing with my own Bitwig, Ableton, Reaper, Studio One stress test, utilization on par with my current mixing rig that has a 12600K locked at 5GHz across all ‘P’ cores - but the 13400 does it at half the power/heat.
However my 12600K actually outperforms my old i9 10850K from the previous gen by about 10% in terms of track count!!
Point is, giving people absolutes or an idea that isn’t correct just adds to the problem.
Otherwise, love the video topic.
Mr. Slick isn't trying to inform, he's trying to upsell. He sells "Music Production" PCs and "Audio Recording Computers" (visit his link). The simple fact he is trying to create a specialized market for "Audio Recording Computers" tells you all you need to know about Mr. Slick. He is "Slick" indeed.
Exactly! I7 and i9 they're going to run lot hotter and have more cores than an i5, but in reality it's highly doubtful that you really need more than an i5 , actually there are vsts these days that uses gpu's to complete some of its algorithms, in that case you'd be better off buying a less powerful CPU, and saving a bit of money to put towards a GPU.
so I'm currently shopping around for a new laptop.. I've been browsing the different options for the last 2 to 3 weeks.. decided to check out the slick audio's selection and you had to do some more investigation which brought me to these videos.. is it me or are their laptops priced waaay tooo cheap??
I don't know, maybe I'm missing something but they seem to be offering some really good specs at prices much lower than an equivalent spec'd laptop from any of the major name brands..
what's the catch?? LOL I haven't really been able to find one yet ..
thank you
How about horizontal scaling with Vienna ensemble pro? Is it worth the cost?
I love this channel
Is the current supply chain proving to be an issue getting a good system? I was going to start building a replacement for my aging system about 8 months ago, but I kept hearing about shortages and "new" graphics cards (I do mostly video) that were junk compared with prior releases (due to chip shortages).
Hi. I'm upgrading my old i5 ASUS P7H55D-M motherboard with an ASUS CS-B i7 4790 CPU after finding one cheap. These 10y/o CPUs are popular for budget gaming PCs so should be fine for audio. But do you think the integrated intel graphics will be enough for audio software (only), given that some plugins do have flashy GUIs? Thanks.
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The tradeoff of cores and speed is not that much of an issue. To handle the extra heat, you can plan to oversize your cooling. For instance, if you have a 125 watt CPU get a ~200+Watt cooler. it will move heat faster and spin slower (slower fan speed is less noise). Intel is very good and very stable, but AMD Ryzen is great too and the latest generations are very stable.
Regarding future building your build prioritize your spending based on what is easiest to change. Do NOT cheap out on your motherboard, but you don't need to latest greatest gaming board either. However, try to get the latest generation. Spend at least $200 on the MB. Next hardest thing to change is the CPU. Get as good as you can but if you got a great MB the CPU can have an upgrade path to extend the system life. Next is the boot drive. This is a hassle to replace so get an NVMe drive that's big enough, 1TB minimum. A 2TB boot drive is not cheap but will have extra longevity. Samsung is still the best of the best but the best Crucial drives are a very close second. Other name brands are also very good. Note that Samsung has the best, hands down, cloning software (flawless) except that it only clones Samsung to Samsung drives.
I'll add this. There is a lot to be learned from the gaming and creator community as to PC Build design. They are the ones pushing the envelope all the time. Their tastes for quality have evolved too. The first thing an audio engineer can ignore is all the RGB stuff of course but silent cases and operation have become a priority of gamers and air flow has always been important. Part of making cases pretty is also about good air flow. In fact, pretty case layout came from trying to improve air flow. RGB came from internal lighting so you can see what the hell you're doing when making changes/mods. One can think of the Gaming PC community as the NASCAR of the auto industry. A great audio PC is a subset with different priorities of the cutting Gaming/Streaming PC. And there are a lot more Gaming channels out there than audio engineers keeping up on PC technology.
@@L.Scott_Music i was looking for a comment like this. thank you very much for bringing this up.
But you're speaking for yourself, because I'm actually looking at compact PCs and so the tip of few cores for less heat and higher potential clocks is great.
Ryzen 5950x
64gb 3600mhz CL16 ram
RME HDPSe AIO soundcard/interface
Had 128 tracks recording in pro tools, 96khz sample rate, 64 buffer size, only hit 30% usage, all but 2 threads outta 32 being hit.
All of this, while HEAT is turned on...
Also tested 36 omnispheres instances open in FL, each with a different keyscape library, playing 16 notes each. 96khz SampleRate and 32 BufferSize. Only 40% usage, 55gb of Ram loaded.
Not to mention the speed of exporting sessions, renderings on RX are also blazing fast
Highly recommend the combo if anyone's serious about pushing native dps limits 🤓
I have the same audio card, but I need a better machine. Yours sounds exactly like what I want. Would you please send me your specs please? Let me know if you'd like my email or a FB link.
@@Jrel above mentioned specs (ram was ripjaw 4×16gb) plus
-X570 ASUS TUF Gaming MB
-1tb Aorus gen4 m.2 (OS)
-2tb Samsung evo plus m.2 (samples)
-Seasonic FOCUS GX-750 PSU
-Noctua NH-D15 + 5 more Noctua fans (2×140mm 1x80mm 2×120mm)
-The case choice is unique here
Cooler Master HAF XB EVO
(Front has 2 slots for swapping HDD's for massive amounts of kontakt and EWQL libraries)
-EVGA 3060 12gb vram (had to wait 11 hours at a best buy for this one)
-Front panel usb 3 gen 2 + usb c
-Blu-ray re/write (I like burning a copy of all the sessions/stems/files for a album/EP/tape I work on for someone)
@@RandomRelapse Thank you very much, I appreciate it!
@@Jrel also this might help u in your quest, I had made a extremely stripped down version of a windows 10 ISO, removing everything that wasn't essential for audio operation, I find this has a huge impact on STABILITY while operating heavy workloads under small buffer sizes. Only way to max out the massive potential of hardware
You'll need to have a separate OS on a SSD or partition for games or regular use, since a very stripped down windows 10 completely lacks windows defender or any form of protection, and has missing microsoft related graphic drivers 🙄
How hard is it to max out one core? Like lots of effects on one channel? Or do even those spread out over multiple cores?
Interesting. I just did some test one NVME and SSD with opening up Full Orchestra on Cinematic Studio Strings. With the 2.5"" SSD, it took 37 seconds to completely load. With NVME, it took 21 seconds to load. I will do more research after hearing your thoughts on NVME, but I was confident that was going to be faster for my VSTs.
Me, too. I put all my VST on a single NVME SX8200, and it loads so fast everytime I call my VST
Awesome content! I have a 2TB SSD on my MacBook (2017). Is it alright if I store my projects (and/or samples) on it as well for now? Because I'm just starting out and my applications do not really take up that much space and I feel it'll just be a waste having all that free space while having to get ANOTHER SSD
Yes. It’s ok to use only one drive. There are just some benefits to using separate drives.
@@AudioUniversity Thank you. I understand
Do you recommend intel i9 12900k or Ryzen 5950x?
So does that mean that 6 cores will be okay, and not too many to overheat?
Does processor speed matter? I see some people saying the lowest is 3.0ghz
You don't need to reformat to move anything to a bigger drive. There are several programs that can move the OS, programs and data to a new drive for you. Normally one is available with the new larger drive. You can drag and drop, copy and paste, etc. project data without anything other than formatting the new drive. Not sure why he said it like it's hard. Maybe it is to some, but it is a pretty simple thing to do if you know how.
Thanks man really appreciate the info 😇.
I'm glad you found it helpful, Ajin!
Been running the same desktop for 12 years to record my music. I use AudioBox interface, and Presonus Studio One. Looking to get a new desktop, does this sound like a good setup? Or could someone point me in the right direction. I also heavily use Photoshop, Lightroom and Sony Vegas.
SKU:
ST-ChronosW-0254-CC
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Turbo)
Case:
Skytech Chronos, White Edition w/ Front Mesh
CPU Cooler:
Wraith Stealth Cooler
Fans:
3x Skytech RGB 120mm Fans
Motherboard:
B550M
RAM:
16GB DDR4 Gaming Memory 3200 MHz
Graphics:
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 12GB
Primary Hard Drive:
1TB NVMe SSD
Power Supply:
650 Watt 80 Plus Gold Certified
Networking:
802.11 ac
Operating System:
Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
What do you do about a graphics card? I assume you dont need one of the fancy gaming ones? Ableton doesnt seem very graphics intensive.
The only thing I don't have is 2TB hard drive on my OS. I've installed my daw, plugins and samples on a second HDD (that does have 2TB storage) and my projects are stored in the cloud where the local directory is also in that same drive. The only problem with this is that when I install a new OS, the daw will stay on the computer, but doesn't work right because it is missing files from the OS.
Before I saw this vid I had been ready to buy a 16-core i7 processor. How many cores are ideal? At present I have a PC with a i5 4x3Ghz processor. Could it be enough for some DAWs? Please help me a bit! I am confused now. Thanx very much!
What about those cool gaming computers do they work good with music recording long as it has 16 of 32 gb ? I core 7 go 9? Processor?
Just bought a New iMac and it barely keeps up with my sessions in Logic even after adjusting the core preferences to bias playback and maxing the buffer size. I usually go ahead and print my drums down early on just to keep the overload nags at bay. THEN there's the issue of updated OS systems not playing nice with Slate products along with other 3rd parties. I'm paying for a subscription I cannot use, currently. The notion of not updating your system so things will work has become normal and it's totally absurd. I'm definitely looking into going with Slick for the next one. I'm only loyal to whatever system that serves my purpose.
It's like they say... Complicated DRM ends up hurting the legitimate customer more than the pirate.
Gotta say my i5 10400 is pretty great as things go for a budget option
I agree with you, i've got the same processor and its performance impresses me everyday, my only concern is that it heats up very fast, but it has never affected the performance of my pc
I have an i5 3rd gen. Can I upgrade that to another i5 8th Gen maybe?
@@BreeDxLeaD i510400 is very cheap, i don't know why you'd get an 8th gen considering how cheap and good the 10400 is
@@noahleach7690 8th Gen is all I can afford right now and it's kinda urgent. Will I need to consider the motherboard when getting a higher CPU or is that not a factor? Not so clued up with all this computer stuff, I just make music
@@BreeDxLeaD its best to check out gamers nexus on youtube and other related computer building youtube channels, it can be complex and I'm not an expert in any way
Since Intel CPUs gen 12th & 13th have issues with Windows, especially E-cores architecture, I'm planning to upgrade to 7950x3D or 7800x3D.
I'm looking at a laptop with and Ryzen 9 6900hx and 32 gigs of RAM. Would an i7 or Ryzen 7 with 64 gigs of RAM be better?
Are there any thoughts out there on cooling fans or how to deal with the noise factor of a desktop? I'm recording in the same room as my computer and trying to upgrade to a PC that has the specs mentioned in this great video. However I'm not sure if fan noise is something I can scope out ahead of time until I get the unit up and running.
I recently upgraded my pc to be tailored to music production. I’ll share with you the research I’ve done the past few months: The number one rule is that “Bigger is better” this means no 92mm fans. Also, you want PWM fans so you can controll the fan RPM and create a custom fan curve in your BIOS. 120mm is good but 140mm is even better. If you cant get 140mm, dont worry too much bc 120mm is still good. I have 120mm in my case. For CPU cooler, go air as opposed to water bc the pump noise can be loud. If you want a GPU, 3 fan variants are best bc they require less RPM to cool your GPU. For chassis fans, I went with Noctua and Arctic P12. I did hours of research about the fans and Noctua is the quietest but theyre pricey so I mixed it up with the budget friendly Arctic fans which are just as quiet but not as effective at cooling as Noctua. Also, the guy in the video is recommending no less than 16gb of ram, and an i7/i9. An i5 will do just fine. 8gb of ram will also do just fine. For DAWs, what matters is single core performance. There are some i5s with much better single core performance than i7s. I use an i5 with sometimes 9 vsts plus effects loaded and it operates just fine. Same with ram, he recommends no less than 16gb, but I’ve been using 8gb of DDR4 3200Mhz and it worked perfectly for 7 years before I decided to upgrade. No latency or crashing. The only thing that was somewhat of an annoyance were my loading and export times but nothing longer than 2 minutes for a project about 3gb in size. Take what this guy is saying with a grain of salt. Ive put my old pc through hours of intensive music production and recording and I havent had any issues for 7 years. Best of luck to you.
@@dvybby bigger fans don't always mean higher static pressure, but larger fans does mean it will be quieter. The kaotica eyeball will do a lot to help eliminate a vocal mic from capturing the sound from your fan. Another option would be to put the computer outside of the room, and buy long enough cables so you can keep the monitor and interface in the room
Great information in this video, excluding the M1 pro/max machine consideration
My old PC was a gen 1 or 2 i7 with 12gb of ram. I didn't really run in to any issues with just running FL studio and a bunch of instances of Serum for pretty much all my sounds. I'd only run in to issues with popping and cracking with patches with a lot of phase modulation.
I recently got a new rig, a 12th gen i5 and 16gb of ram. I don't play live so latency isn't an issue. Am I going to be roughly in the same spot or will my new rig be a little better?
It'll be wayy wayyyy better. Computers have come a long way since then.
This guy is awesome
multi cores alright but yup high constant core speed for that just running along grunt, high cache always good. plenty fast memory thats matches the sweet spot of cpu. drives fastest as possible apart from storage.
Thanks s is quite funny, cos I'm regularly recording & mixing 10-12 track projects on a laptop with only 4GB RAM.
Only once have I noticed latency, which i managed.