Cleopatra | Greek - Macedonian Queen in Ancient Egypt
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- Woman Ahead of Her Time Cleopatra VII was a member of the Greek-Macedonian Ptolemaic dynasty that ruled over Egypt after the death of Alexander the Great. Although of Greek-Macedonian descent, she was born and raised in Egypt, and was fluent in several languages including Egyptian, Greek, and possibly Latin. Cleopatra was known for adopting many of the customs and traditions of ancient Egypt, and presented herself as a pharaoh in the Egyptian style.
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She also wasn't the only Cleopatra. She was Cleopatra VII. There were 6 before her. Potentially 9 if you include Cleopatra Helena and her daughter Cleopatra Helena II
Κλεοπάτρα (Cleopatra) is still a popular name in Greece. Many Greek women are called Cleopatra.
Клеопатра is Македонка (Macedonian)
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@@IEthereaI your language is Bulgarian.. Cleopatra and Macedonians were not related to Bulgaria.
Thanks.
@@mariosathens1 How dare you call Macedonian Kleopatra "bulgarian" 😂
Little turk 🇬🇷🇧🇬💩🤐
@@IEthereaI sorry we don't understand bulgarian bro😂
@@wankawanka3053 Same 😂
Cleopatra was brown. Not Black! Not White! But brown skin similar to Arabs and Greeks of that time. Remember Greeks are not White. They belong to indo Aryan language family similar with that of Iranian, trukiye etc of the Mediterranean region
You know that German, Latin and Celtic are also indo-aryan languages?
@@censorduck that's why Hitler was killing white slavs. Offcourse intermixing happen for centuries but the earliest Greeks belong to Mediterranean region, traded with Iranian, went war with Iranian share the same language family group and races. Cleopatra's big hook nose in her sculpture is typical of indo Aryan race that of Iranian, Arabs etc. White race don't have hook nose but a pointy nose pointing straight upward. I am historian genealogist professor. I know what I am saying kiddo
Mediterranid race comes in shades of very light skin to dark olive. To begin with..
So , explain ur statement....
@@honkingantelope1990_ very light skin yes but not White. If you are talking about light pale skin even some Koreans and Japanese are more pale lite skin then white people. Having said that they don't have White race and black race features.
@@elangbam3115 I understand. But talking about Cleo i remember plutarch stating she was light pale skinned .
So far i d add climate too. When i was living in Germany i was very pale . Now that i live in some south aegean island my skin changed to a more oily complex . So idk its objective maybe
That render doesn’t look a thing like her. She had angular features and a big nose, according to coins.
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She was greek!
Macedonian kvin ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤nooooooo grek
КЛЕОПАТРА (Cleopatra) is Македонка (Macedonian)
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Nice greek name 😂 too bad you can't understand it in your bulgarian language 😅
@@wankawanka3053 You are literally turks bulgarians 😂
She was Macedonian. 🇲🇰👑👸🏻
Cleopatra was masedonian
Macedonian*
Meaning Greek.
@@greekmetalhead1805No greek metal head, Macedonian as from Macedonia.
@@freezingcold3702 We are going in circles here. Macedonian, from Macedonia, from Greece. Macedonia was a Greek Kingdom in ancient times and it is a region in Northern Greece today. Cope.
@greekmetalhead1805 Your whole account relies on defending that subjective ideology of yours which can be in fact easily neglected. Lmao, if we're gonna generalise things, on every piece of internet material where the term "macedonia" is brought, there are tons of triggered greeks with their childish nicknames (like yours), something in the likes of "greek emperor, defender blah blah.. proving something for which they have zero competence whatsoever. Where does the hatred stem from amigo?
The kingdom, that you referred to, was called Macedonian even BC. Cleopatra was a direct descendant of Ptolemy I, hence the Macedonian royalty. When tourists come to Mykonos or Santorini go up to them and ask what their association of Cleopatra really is. Make your own statistics. I'm sure most of them would label her as the last queen of the MACEDONIAN dynasty, she's basically known to the world as that, and rightfully so. Greece is not even put in brackets. Although her roots can be easily traced, the fact that her crown and jewelry was imprinted on various macedonian coins, speaks for itself. Cleopatra and Ptolemy are also macedonian names. Spare me from the nonsense of how we "don't" have anything with ancient macedonians, been there, heard that.
You are basically an internet history warrior and I am coping? 😂
take care.
Therefore greek
I don't understand how they keep talking about cleopatra , when she to was a child of invaders, plus they had better black women pharaohs, from the beginning of kehmit
Who gives a f*ck? There were NO black women pharaohs so cut the crap. Whenever people use the word "black", I don't trust they even know what they are talking about. No Egyptian ruler was "black" in the sense of what I think you are referring to. If by black you mean "African", that would be different but not all Africans are black so enough crap.
Like Mr Neil degrasse Tyson said kehmit was a thriving civilization when white people were in the mountains doing God knows what, an that goes for Arabs to. An who are you. Just go sit down, an stop killing yourself with lies, no one believes. You don't come from Africa it's simple
Because they want to keep pushing the agenda that ancient Egypt was a white civilization not a black one!
Black Land refers to the rich soil of ancient Egypt, not their skin color. There were never any black pharaohs.
@@siphonius1278 Mr Neil degrasse Tyson kehmit was a thriving civilization when white people were in the mountains doing God knows what. An who are you? Go sit down clown
She was born in Egypt buy isn't Egyptian??
Yep. Alexander the Great established the kingdom of Alexandria, which was in Egypt. His general Ptolemy l became pharaoh of Egypt, but Ptolemy was Macedonian. Cleopatra and her brothers are decendants of Ptolemy l. There was a lot of incest, so they were pretty much 100% Greek by blood. Cleopatra was the only ruler of her dynasty to speek Egyptian (she also spoke up to 9 more languages). Since she was fluent in pretty much every prominent language in the Mediterranean, she became a very successful politician who was able to connect with her people.
Why do act as if this is a crazy thing?
@@harini218 Alexander the Great, Alexandria and Kleopatra are 100% Macedonians by blood 🇲🇰☦️🌟👑👸🏻
@@SuperTrojan64 Yeah they were Macedonians and had Macedonian names and spoke Macedonian .
Grece is a name and country from 1821 🤣
WAS CLEOPATRA EUROPEAN, AFRICAN OR OF MIXED HERITAGE?
Written by Know Thyself Institute
The announcement of “Cleopatra” the Netflix documentary has stirred much controversy with many people being upset about the choice of the leading actress with many accusations of “Black Washing”. This is not at all a surprise considering the historical anti-African sentiment when concerning ancient Egypt and openly racist ideologies of early Egyptologists' such as George Reisner and James Breasted. Their agenda to separate the original people and civilization of ancient Egypt from the rest of Africa has been massively successful leading many to believe ancient Egypt was a product of Eurasians. Let us take a closer look to see if there is any validity to this claim. But before we do that let us first establish the history and relationship between ancient Kemet (Egypt) and Greece.
While Cleopatra is a title which has been held by many women in the past, the Cleoptra in question is Cleopatra VII, Thea Philopator, 70 BCE or 69 BCE. She was born into Greco-Roman Egypt in a time period when indigenous Africans had lost rulership of their once great nation of Kemet. Due to opression from the Ptolemaic regime indigenous Kemetyu (Egyptians) were pushed futher south due to unjust laws including higher taxation rates than their Greek counterparts. Cleoatrapa ruled from the Delta as was tradition of all foreign rulers including the Hyksos, Lybians, Assyrians and Persians before her, and Arabs, Mamluks and French and British after. Historically indigenous Nwsts (Pharaohs) ruled from Upper Kemet, over 1000 km away from the Delta deep in Southern Kemet near the border of Sudan. The power and spiritual centers of ancient Kemet historally were in Upper Kemet in the regions of Swennet, Nekhen, Naqada and Waset.
It should be noted that even to this day these regions are populated by Black Africans who still acknowledge their African heritage. Modern Egyptians in Aswan speak of their origins:
czcams.com/video/ZvJ0F299kFQ/video.html
Cleopatra VII was part of the Ptolemaic Dynasty, an invading Macedonian population that colonized the Delta and adopted ancient Kemetic customs and dress. They fused many Kemetic Neteru and Greek Gods together such as Zeus-Amun and even deified historical Kemetic figures such as Imhotep, the world's first Multi-Genius whom the Greeks worshiped as Ascepius. Greeks literally worshiped ancient African Gods. The Greeks were educated by ancient Africans. They Studied in Kemet (Egypt) in the ancient Mystery System. Plato studied in Kemet for 13 years. Pythagoras studied philosophy, geometry and medicine in Kemet for 22 years. Thales, the first Greek philosopher to study in Kemet for 7 years Hippocrates, who is called the father of medicine, recognized Egyptian multi genius, Imhotep as father of medicine and deified him as previously mentioned. The "Pythagorean Theorem" was used to build the pyramids in Egypt 1000 years before Pythagorean was born. Plato said “Kemetic education makes students more alert and human”, Plato also told his students to "go to Kemet if they wanted to study the mind of great philosophers". Herodotus, the Greek historian refered to the continent of Africa as Aethiopia. Aethiopia to the Greeks was looked at as the cradle of civilization. In those times Greeks referred to “Sub-Saharan” Africa as Upper Aethiopia and the Sahara was known as Lower Aethiopia. The Atlantic Ocean was known as the Aethiopian Sea. Ethiopia in Greek translated to “Skin Burnt of the Furnace”. A term often used to describe ancient Egyptians and was a generic term for a black African.
Now that we have a little bit of background information of the relationship between Greece and Kemet let's get back to Cleopatra. Was she white, black or mixed? When referring to the Fayum Portraits of Greco Roman Egypt it is clear that many of the portraits depict people of mixed ethnicities. Given the fact that Macedonians adopted African culture it is not at all a stretch of imagination that they intermarried and intermixed with native Africans producing offspring of mixed heritage. This is apparent even in the phenotype of many modern Egyptians today in Cairo and Alexandria who have African features such as dark complexions and coarse hair. But is there any further evidence that Cleopatra may have been of mixed African and European origin? In fact there is.
The tomb of Cleopatra VII’s sister was unearthed in 1973. Her name was Arsinoë IV and lived between 68 and 63 BCE in Alexandria. According to certain sources Arsionoe was killed while seeking refuge in the Temple of Artemis in the year 41 BC. The same year Cleopatra and her lover Marcus Antonius arrived in Ephesus. Arsinoe is said to have opposed Cleopatra's rule which led to her untimely death. Interestingly enough according to Hilke Thuer of the Austrian Academy of Sciences, upon examination it was found that Arsinoë was of mixed heritage both Greek and African. This discovery lends credence to the assertion of the BBC News who stated, "Cleopatra's mother 'was African', Cleopatra, the last Egyptian Pharaoh, renowned for her beauty, was part African, says a BBC team which believes it has found her sister's tomb. Queen Cleopatra was a descendant of Ptolemy, the Macedonian general who ruled Egypt after Alexander the Great. But remains of the queen's sister Princess Arsinoe, found in Ephesus, Turkey, indicate that her mother had an "African" skeleton. Experts have described the results as "a real sensation."
In conclusion it is not at all a far stretch of the imagination that Cleopatra may have been mixed with African blood and furthermore, the appearance of the people of Greco-Roman Egypt, based on the Fayum portraits illustrate a population whom look very similar in feature, complexion and hair texture as the actress Adele James who was chosen to play the role of Cleopatra. Considering the fact they were on the continent of Africa it would actually be preposterous to assume that these different populations of Africans, Greeks, and Asiatics did not mix and intermarry.
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SOURCES
Cleopatra’s Maternal lineage:
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/also_in_the_news/7945333.stm
Arsinoë IV’s mixed African origins:
www.genealogyintime.com/NewsStories/2009/March/did_cleopatra_have_african_ancestry.html
The ancient African Presence in Greece:
www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/afrg/hd_afrg.htm
African Origins of the Greek God Zues:
pantheon.org/articles/a/ammon.html
Dr. Mostafa Hefny Discusses the Intermixing of Egyptian Copts, Greeks, and Arabs: czcams.com/video/IDXJTnEIjTg/video.html
Wow thanks
.this what I was thinking the same , she had been mixed ...whenever foreign power ruled over the land , they used to marry with local aristocracy to strengthen the foundation of their rule .. it's been impossible to think that after so many years , they wouldn't have afr ican blood in them.
Though I understand Egyptian sentiments but there is definately racism involved in their backlash
@@victoryv116 African doesn't mean automatically "Black", lol. Northern Africa even then had predominantly lighter skinned population, looking similar to ppl in the Middle East.
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@@dyawr lol when did I say African means only black...
@@victoryv116 _"she had been mixed... whenever foreign power ruled over the land, they used to marry with local aristocracy [...] _*_it's been impossible to think that after so many years, they wouldn't have《African blood》in them."_*
And then you go on to call the Egyptians *racist,* lol. *The issue* with this documentary, in case you haven't understood, is that Cleopatra was depicted as being *Black* - *from your statement,* you seem to equate her having mixed *North-African* heritage (which is just a speculation, given that her family was notoriously inbred & *avoided* marrying outside the bloodline) with her *being Black.*
Which is why you conclude the people/Egyptians objecting to this *movie* (not "documentary") are racist.
Even if she *had* North African heritage in her mix, we can see from the depictions we have that she clearly wasn't Sub-Saharan or West-African looking. *So,* "African blood" doesn't automatically means "Black features". 🙂
You're welcome
ΚΛΕΟΠΆΤΡΑ just by the name you can tell she was greek 🇬🇷
She was not bulgarian 🇬🇷😅
She is clearly Macedonian 🇲🇰👑👸🏻
КЛЕОПАТРА Е МАКЕДОНКА 🇲🇰☦️👸🏻
The Latinized form Cleopatra comes from the Ancient Greek Kleopátra (Κλεοπάτρα), meaning "glory of her father", from κλέος (kléos, "glory") and πατήρ (patḗr, "father"). The masculine form would have been written either as Kleópatros (Κλεόπατρος) or Pátroklos (Πάτροκλος)
Cleo is mixed! Her father was Greek but her mother was from African dissent
Kleo is Macedonian 🇲🇰☦️🌟👑🦁
@@IEthereaI she was of mixed race
Both are wrong. She was of greek origin!
Depicting her as really light skinned is not historically correct
Just stop, she was European so that skin tone is accurate. The darkest possible tone she would have had is no darker than a modern Greek person.
She was definitely more European than she was Egyptian I would say she was three fifth Greek!
@@tracysharp1361 She was fully Greek. That has NEVER been disputed except by fools who hear "African queen" and draw her black doing no research. She was a Ptolemaic queen. She hailed from a Ptolemaic family most of whom were inbred because they bred within their familial lines. She had no Egyptian DNA, she was just the queen and learned the language and culture for the sake of connecting better with the citizens.
@@maozedong8370 no different than when Europeans try to draw African European so don't be calling us names idiot I'm quite sure she had a little bit of black blood but she was mostly European! Yes the ptolemaic integrated with their own family which was the tradition of ancient Egypt but most ancient Egyptians were native Africans and dark-skinned not European! But she was definitely more than Egyptian!
@Mao Zedong Egypt is in Africa where she was born. Africans aren't white lol
I have been doing my research on the life of Cleopatra and before this l had never heard of her being anything but Egyptian even though she was born to a Greek father, even the true origin of her mother is in doubt by many and no where did l read that she ever lived in Greece, fought for Greece or for that matter have any thing to do with that country. In fact she even joined with Caesar to help Rome defeat the Greeks who had been ruling Egypt. Her love had always been for Egypt and not Greece, she learned Egyptian as well as Ethiopian, an African language as well as the Middle Eastern languages of Aramaic and Median and was born in Egypt and fought and loved that country and not Greece. So truly the facts point to her being either mixed with Egyptian or Persian since the Persians had ruled Egypt from around 525 BC and she went out of her way to learn and speak those languages, all something a person who was 100 percent Greek would most likely not do. So in my eyes and alot of people, Cleopatra will always be Egyptian because you are what you Love and she had no love for Greece or its People. So even if you guys are right that she also had a Greek or Macedonian mother, she sure didnt have or show any love for her people. Wonder why Greeks are so much trying to claim as her own when she obviously loved Egypt, not Greece. One may even say she hated Greece for her to align with their fiercest enemy Rome and helping to defeat Greece for Rome. Which Rome eventually did in 30 BC and took Egypt from Ptolemaic Dynasty of Macedonia that had ruled Egypt for 300 years since 332 BC. So you can understand why people have issues when they say Cleopatra was Greek cause her Life and actions speak otherwise.
VERY GOOD COMMENT
She was black..End if story.
Ain't no pink Queen's rule Egypt
Then martin Luther king Jr. Is Greek. Period, I don't care what you will say.
She was a white Macedonian Greek with slight Persian admixture. There is close to a 0% chance she was black.
@@siphonius1278 She was Macedonian with slight Persian admixture. 🇲🇰👸🏻
There is no chance she was black greek.
@@IEthereaI Macedonia and Ancient Macedon are two different things lol, but yes she certainly wasn't black otherwise the Romans would have depicted her as such
@@IEthereaI no she wasn't bulgarian like you tatr 🎪🇲🇰🎪
Only masedonian sorry never greek
You mast undarstad or all of you will gonin helll masedonian qween we dont have noting with greek only bukyrest deal when they stole territory from masefonian and from ever thet stole
Ok mr macedonian explain her greek name then😅
The ancient Macedonians were a Greek tribe. Nothing to do with you Slavskis who arrived at the Balkans in the 6th century AD.
Cope.
Whole the world says Greek.. Cry
THATS GREEK TRIBEEEE LOL
КЛЕОПАТРА (Cleopatra) is Македонка (Macedonian)
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Yes greek Macedonian
(Koinē Greek: Κλεοπάτρα Θεά Φιλοπάτωρ, Cleopatra "father-loving goddess" 70/69 BC - 10 August 30 BC) was Queen of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt from 51 to 30 BC, and its last active ruler. A member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, she was a descendant of its founder Ptolemy I Soter, a Macedonian Greek general and companion of Alexander the Great
You comment a cross my friend I believe to in god better to say in the Bibel your belief also the Bible right? Read Daniel god say Alexander is Greek. Would you say god is a liar?
@@karlnichts6419 I put Orthodox Cross because I'm Macedonian Christian!
This is literally what the Bible says:
*A country lying to the North of Greece, afterward enlarged and formed into a Roman province; it is to the latter that the term always refers when used in the New Testament.*
*Macc 1:1-7, where he is spoken of as "Alexander the Macedonian, the son of Philip, who came out of the land of Chittim" (1:1): his invasion of Persia is also referred to in 1 Macc 6:2, where he is described as "the Macedonian king"!*
*The bond uniting Paul and the Macedonian Christians seems to have been a peculiarly close and affectionate one. Their liberality and open-heartedness, their joyousness and patience in trial and persecution, their activity in spreading the Christian faith, their love of the brethren--these are a few of the characteristics which Paul specially commends in them!*
The land that you live on was Achia and was separate entity from us. Please stop this bullying cuz it's not God willing...
@@IEthereaI Daniel 8
КЛЕОПАТРА (Cleopatra) is Македонка (Macedonian)
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Makedonsky or Makedoskova? ;)
@@tasosvogiatzis3214 I wrote Makedonka (Macedonian) but you don't know Macedonian alphabet...
Btw those surnames that you wrote are not Macedonian, this are:
Makedonski (male) and Makedonska (female)
But what do I expect from Tasos Papadoupoulous who thinks himself Macedonian or grek but it's neither.