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One thing I would add to this deck guide is that Isshin can double triggers when opponents creatures attack with cards like [[Curse of Opulence]] or [[Revenge of Ravens]].
Also, mangara and cunning rhetoric and similar things
Also ghostly prison and sphere of safety
@@legomanwanter Not quite. Those are both static effects, rather than triggered abilities, so they won't be doubled by Isshin
@@legomanwanter lolno
This is the main difference (besides color) between Isshin and Wulfgar, the latter only doubling triggers caused by YOUR attacking creatures.
This guy is the single card that got me the most hyped for commander this set.
I'm literally planning like, 3 decks for this commander.
Damn, I was just hyped about the cyborf fire rabbit with haste xD
I feel the same way about Hinata. Should be some great commanders!
@@enoclopez1378 This card will go very good with Kaalia of the Vast 😂🤣 this will make my deck really busted 😂🤣
As someone who made a tribal samurai/warriors deck with him... I tell you that it's still super fun to play!
@@npsantagadaI want to build the same... is it good?😊
“No one expects a counter spell in Mardu” died 😂
"and now we have a commander that copies attack triggers!"
Wulfgar: Am I a joke to you ?
Wulfgar doesn't have white, which gives by far the beefiest boosts to attack triggers.
@@Foxpawed Wulfgar also only triggers when you attack with creatures you control, Isshin triggers whenever anyone attacks, so if I understand it right he would also double things like shiny impetus or hissing miasma.
@@Foxpawed wulfgar has green. Best attack triggers in the game.
Always great to see some more EDH content from the Prof!
Even more so than the vigilance enchantments, Reconnaissance lets you attack freely without fear of blockers and gives vigilance in a roundabout way. And it costs only W.
Reconnaissance is one of my all time favorites. Over preforms every time I manage to get it out in any sort of combat focused deck. It's some of the best value in the game. Only issue I ever have with it is having to explain why I can untap my creatures after they have already done damage. Some people get salty about that.
woah..this must be mvp! insane value, great suggestion, thx
@@83erMagnum it makes all the small, value-oriented attack triggers much easier to play with. :)
Also just between us, Winota is a great add to this, especially since a lot of the tokens are coveniently non-humans.
Yeah…I learned about Reconnaissance when I first built Alesha, Who Smiles at Death a couple years ago…the card drives people nuts and I love it!
Kazuul, Tryant of the Cliffs and Breena having double triggers could easily make you arch enemy of the table.
Prof: "Remember combat? It often takes a back seat to combo."
Me: *laughs in Najeela*
Winota:
Jeska/Ishai:
Godo:
Yuriko:
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Wanderwine prophets!
Najeela: Porque no los dos? Lets see how many things we can cram into one deck to take infinite combats. (Mine is 'only' sitting at around seven because some like Derevi aren't warriors, and I need enough density to get the combos going. Akki Battle Squad might still get in by virtue of already having Godo, Aurelia and Combat Celebrant + Helm of the Host)
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Thank you professor!!! I was looking forward to make a commander deck the moment I saw the card in the previous and now you made a deck guide for him! Cheers!!!
A guide from my heart to yours for covering this commander.
Also, Delina + Harmonic Prodigy + Lithoform Engine = 4 rolls? Or do you stack the trigger to go off of harmonic, which doubles delina, which doubles from Isshin, then add a 5th?
I think you get 4 without lithoform. Delina attacking triggers her ability, so it triggers twice thanks to isshin. Delina attacking triggers harmonic prodigy so it also triggers twice. Because isshin says: If a creature attacking triggers an ability of a permanent of your to trigger it happens twice. Delina attacking triggers Harmonic so she copies Delina ability twice too.
@@daanverschaeren7197 It is a replacement effect and as such there are only three triggers and a lithiform copy.
Original
Isshin (2 instead of 1)
Harmonic (3 instead of 2)
Lithiform copies a single one of these triggers.
You should think of Isshin the same way as something like +1/+1 all star Hardened Scales which just places an extra counter on a creature. Much the same way, the trigger gets added to the stack from the creature with the additional triggers so you creature just creates three triggers. There is no trigger from Harmonic or Isshin as their effect is static and always there.
Ohhh chef love your content
Fun interaction: A friend stole one of my creatures with Gilded Drake, then I used Delina to copy the GIlded Drake twice and exile the tokens on my enemy's boards after :-D
Isshin and Harmonic are replacement effects and never trigger. They are like hardened scales and could just as easily read "When triggere ability, create that plus an additional one instead". So scenario goes like this, your Delina triggers and you have Isshin and Harmonic on the field, Delina puts three triggers on the stack thanks to Isshin and Harmonic and then lithiform copies one of the triggers creating a fourth trigger that is a copy of a single one of the original three triggers created by Delina.
I didn't get a notification for this post today! :( I'm glad I'm always on the lookout for new content from you anyhow, Prof. Love your wit, and breakdowns!
I love when you do deck techs, you always seem to find recommendations that nobody else is talking about!
Really cool video, Prof! Always enjoy your deck techs.
YES MORE OF THIS!!!! Love the deck tech content prof!
One of my Professors is actually building this as Samurai tribal, and I can’t wait to see how it turns out.
@juter4397 I dont think so, since its only when yit blocks or is blocked
@juter4397 no unfortunately Bushido triggers on block
@Brackish it does, and it’s meant as a flavorful deck since he already owns most of the old samurai.
All the new samurai have attack trigger abilities
Just Voltron up one samurai, swing with that one, and reap the benefits
Samurai attack triggers allow discard/draw (akki ronin), discount on next spell (peerless samurai), boost to solo attacking samurai (eiganjo exemplar), casting enchantments and artifacts from the graveyard (norika and heiko yamazaki, respectively), and extra combats (raiyuu, storms edge), probably some more I'm missing.
@juter4397 Bushido actually triggers twice, Isshin activates when a creature attacks, so, If you block with a Bushido creature or they block you, that trigger activates too
So, Yeah, you can make Bushido really menacing with him
Wow Prof,I'm liking that Isshin and the ideas of putting some of my Eldrazi on with him seems perfect !! Thanks and have an amazing weekend everyone !!Get your Kamigawa on tonight at a pre-release !!
Professor, the fact that you have the Saviors novel in the tab is so incredible. Bless you
Awesome thanks Professor! 🤘🏼👏🏼
I love your EDH deck techs prof, hope to see more soon!
I really love Isshin, and there's several very different ways to build him:
1. Exalted, with Neo Samurai tribal sub-theme. This is the way I'll be building him, with a few of the spells and equipment that give a creature Changeling so I can also utilize a few cards from #2 without losing out on Samurai triggers, and a few from #3 to fill out the utility.
2. Wide, swinging with as many attack trigger creatures as possible. Especially with extra combat creatures.
3. Pillow-fort / Political, with a bunch of effects like Kazuul and Marchesa's Decree to deter attacks against you, and Curses and other incentives like Breena for your opponents to attack each other.
And remember, Isshin copies all triggers of only _your_ permanents, but he copies them whenever _any player_ attacks.
Also remember, Isshin only copies _on attack_ triggers. He will _not_ copy "whenever ~ attacks and isn't blocked" (that's a block step trigger) nor "whenever ~ deals combat damage" (damage step trigger)
Cool older card for #3 is Caltrops. It's an Artifact that does 1 damage to each creature that attacks, with Isshin that becomes 2 damage which might not sound like much but when you are leaving back Samurai blockers it makes combat math go more in your favor than you might think. Yeah, it tags your creatures too, but your solo attacker is likely big enough to weather it easier than your opponent's.
@@johncreekpaum4998 Yea, Caltrops is a good one, and so are Powerstone Minefield and Lightmine Field.
Moraug, Fury of Akoum wpuld be a nice addition to this deck, if he gets sword of the animist or sword of hearth and home equipped he potentially gets you a lot of lands and combats due to that landfall trigger.
Moraug only triggers if land comes in during your main phase. Sword of the animist put lands in play during combat. So sadly wouldnt work.
Sweet, he's one of the two commanders I want to eventually build from this set. Thanks for the guide/video, Brian.
I love this deck tech! I've been wanting to throw together some kind of tokens list with him (Cavalcade Aggro was one of my favourite standard decks), but I've been really struggling! This video has given me an amazing starting point, and introduced me to a bunch of options I'd never even considered before! Thank you for this!! Ankle Shanker in specific seems like amazing protection!
Love it! Thanks Prof
That was the commander tech i was looking for im a sucker for samurais, thx a lot prof
Shame it doesn't double bushido activations. Oh, on that note, where is the bushido?
@@cylonsteve2511 was left in original Kamigawa for not being liked enough
@@FelipeASaito yeah, well I did. Bushido is a simple ability WOTC could have easily brought back anyway for theme. It doesn't have to be a super powerful ability to be liked. Samurai without it are like dragons without flying, thematically wrong.
Good day to you Professor!
I know you said on Command Zone deck techs aren't the most popular for views, but I love the combo ideas that show up in these videos.
Thanks Prof!
Great video, Prof!
I was planning a Samurai tribal deck already, with Winota in the deck as well. Thanks for giving me a good way to start building up the deck.
I really like these, prof. My Tovolar deck uses your build/ deck tech as a skeleton, and it will probably be the same for Isshin. 10/10 would love your thoughts on Hinata.
Great deck tech. Looks like a lot of fun. I’m gonna get this deck immediately!
Prof this was super good. Can't wait to see more men I enjoyed that it was concise to the point and under 10 minutes
Thanks for the video, this also gives some ideas for a historic brawl deck
There is that three drop that makes a 1/1 for every opponent as well, such a good card
One card that definitely should go in this deck is Adriana, Captain of the Guard. She gives all your creatures Melee. Melee gives your creatures +1/+1 for each opponent that you’ve attacked with a creature this turn. With Isshin, most of the time it’ll be +6/+6
Another great brew from the professor. I'm looking forward to put my double trigger of angelic exaltation on my krenko tin street kingpin and overrun the bord
Time to see what i have to buy before it spikes
Big fan of Miyamoto Musashi's book. Super excited to play this commander who is obviously inspired by him.
As someone who practiced Niten Ichi Ryu a while back, I MUST build him
Great to see this video as I was just wondering what to do with Isshin since I got it as my prerelease promo
This deck tech made my day! I have been working on trying to put together a list for this commander since it was spoiled. I think there were a couple hidden gems I hadn't considered yet in here! Also, they NEVER expect a counterspell in mardu!! Lapse of Certainty is also not bad. :)
I wanted to build this deck from the moment I saw Isshin can't say how excited I am to see a vid from the prof about it
I also like adding stuff like Rhox Veteran, which serves double duty as both a Battle Cry source to pump all those tokens and a tapper to help clear the way. While trying to brew it, I see a bunch of optional subthemes to lean into, which often lean into each other; go harder into equipments for stuff like Wyleth, Captain's Claws supporting go-wide tokens, even Delver's Torch if you like the Venture cards that benefit from attack doubling like Triumphant Adventurer and Nadaar (who also then supports going wide)
Love this. Love Isshin. Thanks professor.
I can't wait to build for this
love the video!
I pulled one of these in my prerelease packs and immediately said I wanted to build a commander deck around him. Then I saw this video in my sub box! Good stuff prof!
He’s a pretty rad commander, but in my case I’m excited to add him into my Queen Marchesa humans in the 99. When I have options like Alesha, Adeline, Bruse, Winota, etc. at my disposal he makes them so much stronger
He is pretty rad, he is going in the 99 of my Najeela
I like this. Though my brain went a different direction, probably because I love voltroning up my commander. So I liked the idea of using exalted. Since a creature attacking will trigger their till end of turn buff, you can make a creature pretty big. There's only one red exalted effect, but there's a pretty decent number in both black and in white. Even if you're not buffing up your commander, using Aurelia in this case you can buff her up attacking alone twice from every exalted creature, then on your second and third combat steps when she attacks alone again, she gains additional +2/+2 until end of turn from every one of those exalted triggers, letting her start to easily pick opponents off. Add in a Sun Titan, and you can also start to rebuild quickly if those creatures die in a wrath as many have low CMC
Doubling tokens from Adeline, Resplendent Cathar would also be really powerful in a deck like this.
I'm surprised Etali didn't get a mention, but you've difinitely given me some thoughts to get start with :)
Woot Woot was gonna build this deck and using parts from my Wulfgar Deck
Yes finally edh deck tech from my favorite CZcamsr
Not enough comments are talking about your suit, looking great prof!
Hi Prof! After all the words you had with JLK about deck techs being really hard to time correctly, i think you did a very good job here. It's appreciated, hope you have a nice weekend :)
I’d love to see a video on Tatsunari Toad Rider, seems like a cool new commander from NEO
he's definitely going in my attack triggers saskia deck. wulfgar is already a powerhouse there and i cant wait to have both out
Love this!
Another great part about Isshin is that it doubles triggers of ANY creature attacking, even opponents. This doubles things like revenge of ravens or search the premises, providing further disincentive for opponents to attack you. Of course, my favorite way to build him would probably be some insane Hellrider go-wide OTK
I'm going for a defensive kinda deck with him, just don't attack me and it won't hurt you kinda vibe 😂
I would also like to mention a third option for enabling your creatures being available for the extra combats: Reconnaissance. Arguably better, even, than just giving Vigilance, as the ability can save your creatures from unfavorable blocks as well.
Love the end card!
Helm of the host is also immensely good in this deck, always worth it
How about Blade of Selves?
@@LadyLunarSatine I have the blade of selves in the deck as well. Had to take out the helm for how good it was 😅
The great proffessor in a new class for the channel
Isshin ended up being my prerelease box promo, can't wait to build him as a commander!
I have this commander, and there are some old-school tech cards that were not mentioned in this video.
First up, Campaign of Vengeance, which can, if coupled with Alhammerat's Archive, actually drain opponents while you gain twice as much life.
Second, Márton Stromgald. For 2/R/R, every turn Márton attacks, your creatures will get +1/+1 for each other attacking creature. AND, on the crackback, you can get +1/+1 for each other blocking creature other than Márton -- and both the attacking bonus and the blocking bonus apply to each other creature!
Next up: Adriana, Captain of the Guard. Her Melee ability will trigger twice, since she gives Melee to your whole board.
Next up: Commander Liara Portyr. Do you want to cast expensive spells for low cost? Liara does just that! Whenever you attack, you reveal X cards where X is the number of players being attacked. Until end of turn, your spells cost X less to cast, AND you can cast spells from the exiled cards. And with Isshin, this happens twice, meaning that you exile the top 6 (presuming you have 3 opponents), and until end of turn, your spells cost 6 less to cast.
Next up: Alesha, Who Smiles At Death. If you're playing a 3 mana value Isshin deck, you can always include this legendary Warrior. Because when she attacks, you can pay hybrid W/B W/B to bring back an a creature tapped and attacking. Pair her with Break Through The Line, and each creature becomes unblockable.
Next up: Raiyuu, Storm's Edge. Similar to Aurelia, you can only attack with one creature that is a Samurai or Warrior. Luckily, you can attack with Isshin or Raiyuu, and get multiple attack steps via multiple attack phases. Pair Reconnaissance with this guy, and while you may waste one combat phase, you'll get 2 more after.
Next up: Crackling Doom as removal. This card, for R/W/B, deals 2 damage to each opponent, and causes each opponent to sacrifice their highest-power creature.
Next up: Behind the Scenes. Should you have trouble getting through because your opponents have bigger creatures, this may be the enchantment for you! At 2/B, this enchantment gives your creatures Skulk, which means creatures bigger than yours can't block.
Next up: Exterminatus. This 5/W/B sorcery is extremely powerful. First appearing in Warhammer 40K, this sorcery takes away indestructible from your opponents' permanents, and destroys all non-land permanents in play. If you have the mana, play Boros Charm and you have eliminated all your opponents' permanents, even the ones Ruinous Ultimatum couldn't kill, while keeping your permanents alive.
Next up: Reveille Squad. This old-school 2/W/W Human Rebel says that when you're attacked, untap each creature you control. Another creature you can use that people may not expect is Masako, the Humorless, a card from original Kamigawa block. As far as I know, Masako's actual effect has only been printed on her, which is that your tapped creatures can block as though they were untapped. She also has Flash, and only costs 2/W.
Honorable Mentions: Brimaz and Chieftain en-Dal. Brimaz, like other creatures like Champion of Bladehold and Grave Titan, makes Cat Knights that are 2/2 and have vigilance on the attack. Chieftain en-Dal is similar to Ankle Shanker, except he does not grant deathtouch. However, he also only costs 1/W/W, where Ankle Shanker costs 2/R/W/B.
Hoping to see an Artifact focused deck using some of the new cards optimized here 👍
Deck Tech Idea: Go-Shintai of Life’s Origin. Thanks for considering Prof!
Kind of surprised Etali, Primal Storm didn't make the list, but always solid content from the Prof.
Let's not forget that Wulfgar of Icewind Dale did this first, but both Wulfgar and Isshin have completely separate dynamics and approaches. Wulfgar can get some obscenely massive swings out with stuff like pathbreaker ibex; isshin seems to benefit from a more swarm-based and drain-based strategy with cards like Brutal Hordechief.
Thank you.
I'd love to see your take on Shorkai, Genesis Engine. It seems like such a fun commander that can go in different directions
Prof's deck techs are my favorite
Oh man, a professor deck tech of the new jetmir cat demon would be amazing!
0:47 is my favourite thing I've seen all week.
I have a fun aristocrats subtheme with darkest hour and teysa, orzhov scion. Thanks for that tech, prof.
this is absolutely the deck i’m getting
Dang it Prof, I have bills to pay! This is dangerous stuff you're putting out!
Awesome vid as always.
I think the art from Sera's blessing was very pretty.
I'm excited about this commander
When I saw the title you had my curiosity.
When I saw the inclusion of Eldrazi you had my attention!
that intro sent me into a fit of giggles, great job
Yaaaasss! Finally got a mardu commander I need to build
I'd love to see a deck for a less popular commander from the set like Greasefang
I can't wait to put Isshin in my Awaken the Blood Avatar deck 😍
Would love to see a tech on [[Kodama of the West Tree]]. Seems like enough of an open-ended card to work for a variety of styles of decks, so I always love seeing what routes other people decide on for this thing.
Thank you for leaving in the blooper :D
Thanks for this.
Professor, I pulled this yesterday out of a prerelease! I immediately decided to build a deck with this Legendary Creature. Thank you so much for this video and all your other videos good sir!
Mm, now that is a nice idea for a combat after combat deck. Like it!
I hope to one day graduate Magic University! All hail the Professor
Hi Prof! I know it's been a while, but it is nice to see the long hair back, I personally think it suits you quite well.
Also another way to take this deck is with exalted or exalted like effects! Because he doubles all attack triggers, most samurai from the new set are essentially exalted triggers. So a way you can go is Isshin Voltron, using equipment and reconfigure, as well as exalted to get huge
Thank you for adding in vigilance enchantments.
This is a surprisingly decent Curse deck. A good chunk of them trigger on a creature attacking.
Why does no one remember Wulfgar of Incewind Dale as the first commander to double attack triggers??? It was printed last year!
I own a Wulfgar deck and nobody seems to remember that Adventure in the forgotten realms came out in 2021...
I'm working on Etrata and Kroxa. I'd like to see your take on either...or both. This video has changed my stance on Isshin. Ty! (I know they're older but still)
With all this token generation, Anointed Procession may be a good include. If you want to double up on an effect, Mirage Mirror may also help accomplish some goals.
Myriad may also be a keyword worth looking into for this deck.
Saw you on a podcast with Rick Glassman. I'd love to see you review Yu-Gi-Oh cards or do a how to play for Yugi oh it'd be interesting to see a MTG fan learn about the many summoning conditions of Yu-Gi-Oh
If I didn’t have a Wulfgar deck built already, I definitely would build Isshin. One of my buddies in my playgroup is building Isshin instead and it will be interesting to see how the decks differ and the pros and cons of running either of them.
I'm already adapting my Wulfgar deck to Mardu for this. Eldrazi tribal is a helluva drug
I’ve recently been watching some of your “How to start magic the gathering videos” and I don’t have any local game stores. How do I find cards? I know about the app and I think it’ll be great to learn the game and play. But I want to get physical cards too, where can I find them?
What about Wulfgar? I feel like he did not get the attention he deserved in a card