Could A Russian Naval Force Strike The US East Coast? (WarGames 107) | DCS
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- We use DCS World to simulate a Russian naval attack on the East coast of USA with long range cruise missile. US QRA fighters scrabmle from within 400 miles of the target area, but can they stop the strike?
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I'd like to see half MIG-29K's and half SU-33's on The Carrier👍
17:22 now imagine if you had The F110-129 General Electric Engines in The F-15EX ;)
Its most likely the underground bunker in Framingham Ma, that would prob be the only worth while target past Boston itself, that and the air base on Cape Cod
To answer some of your questions, the ANG flies just about every platform the USAF does. F-15,F-16,F-22 and F-35s provide most of the Fighters for CONUS Air Defense. Tankers and Transport assets are also assigned to Air Guard Units. Air Guard Units often times have more experienced Pilots and Airmen. Also they are funded by the States and typically will have served in a particular Unit for a long time. This was true of the US Navy and Marine Reserve Squadrons as well before Base Closing and Realignment Commission 2005 BRAC 2005 retired over 500 F-16,F-15 and A-10s in addition to other platforms. Some Guard Units solely train for Air Defense while others like the 177th Fighter Wing are General Purpose Units. Langley AFB also hosts Detachment Units for Air Sovereignty Alert Duty on a Rotational basis. When the Pope visited Philadelphia, the Air Guard was supported by F-15Es and F-22s from the Active Duty Air Force and various Tanker and AWACS assets. This is common during special events in Philadelphia,Baltimore, DC, New York etc.
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I think the real question is could a Russian fleet reach the us east coast under its own power?
I doubt it because they don't even have replenishment underway they would have to go back and get more food and fuel
Isn't the kuznetsov always accompanied by a couple of tug-boats. So hypothetically...
Dont think so. They need to pass the Atlantic with full of US and British Submarines waiting there, staying undetected. No chance. As soon as they leave All NATO countries especially the US going to track them and they will also send to intercept them with their own CSGs. When they get there, there will be full readiness with multiple Carrier Strike Groups already ready to defend + remember that Submarines. They are eveywhere in the Atlantic, undetected. There is no way the Atlantic Ocean does not have at least 3 submarines already patrolling that area even now, they are there now. How I know? I have a strong feeling there are many submarines right now. At least 3 patrolling mainly because of the Nuclear Deterrence. If you google Nuclear Deterrence you will find out that there is already 1 patrolling somewhere(Probably in the Atlantic Ocean) full readiness 24/7 every day + it could be more not just one. Remember Britain have its own Nuclear Deterrence, France and the US also have. What are the chances there is already 1 or maybe 2 in the Atlantic? There is a chance. So lets say there is already 2 + if ever Russia going to leave their coasts with their CSG US going to track them down. That means if they go to the Atlantic it will be full with US, British, France submarines. Trust me.
I was just heading down here to say basically the same thing, only I was going to say that the smoke emanating from the stacks of the fleet of tug boats would be visible from space.
And without an air craft carrier....big bodies of water all surround the US making it pretty tough for them to sail this way and would be destroyed by the Americans subs and Airforce....they would be picked off left and right on the approach.
I just couldn't help myself saying that Target was the target. The exact store I picked, was selected because it has the target logo...a bullseye...on the roof! And hearing everyone laugh when Cap told them all was the biggest payoff to the joke I could have wanted.
Frickin legend.
I used to go by that store on a daily basis!
That totally was awesome!!!!
Lol good one @Combatineffective 😂
Peak GR and I'm here for it. Well done sir
I have to admit, as soon as I saw the name "Kusnetsov" I started to giggle hysterically... Then when I heard that the target was Target, I lost it.
Probably the only thing the Admiral Krapanov can successfully attack, and that's being generous (seriously, it's a piece of shyit).
Going to attack Target as they’re declaring war on high prices.
As I watch this wargame, there are three aerial refuelers airborne about 60nm southeast of New York City. A KC-135 and two KC-46. This is almost all day every day that tankers are up off the east coast. Just FYI.
Also an air refueling wing in Bangor, Maine.
@@rapdfire-9175 Pease too.
thx
Theres no information about US air defense on the coast because we generally don’t have SAM sites in our cities outside of DC afaik. The reason for this Being that the US had such good natural barriers that we’d detect anything and have plenty of time to react to any major threat.
God bless our 2 big ass ponds.
Russians deciding to skip any military targets, and choosing just to bomb a civilian store is peak real world accuracy at the moment lol.
🤣 *dead*
@@RunicGamingYT There are a few Active Duty Posts/Bases in Boston and Kittery Naval Base - Portsmouth NH - Nuc Sub refit base
Must have watched Red Dawn before planning the mission. They're trying to starve the home grown resistance from the start.
nothing has change from ruskies there. 84 years different and still lying.
dropping ''breadbasket'' to allegly hungry finnish people. so we named drink which goes with that rusky bread, molotov cocktail.
@@antcommander1367 You do realize that Ukraine was part of the soviet Union right? It wasn't just "the Russians", hell even Poland was part of the Warsaw pact. Pretending like the current Russian Federation is anything like the USSR and Warsaw pact was is just plainly wrong.
Just a quick thank you from a 65 yr old addicted war gamer who flew the micro prose flight sim on
his amiga too many years ago to count. I can not express how much i enjoy your videos, often the highlight of my day. thanks again to all grump, simba, violet,matrix, cap, and the rest. Bona Fortuna!!....
How do you NOT detect TU-95s? Those things probably set off earthquake sensors on the WEST coast.
There's litteraly no way they'd make it to the coast.
My thoughts would have been the Russians telling us that they will be flying south to Cuba for a goodwill tour with their Central and South American Allies.
@robk1602 they don't need to hide that they are flying them over here. Just what their intentions are. In fact if they reported to the press that they were doing a tour of them to their allies in Cuba and Venezuela or simply started doing regular long distance sorties over the mid-atlantic on a regular basis, they might very easily be able to turn and do this. Especially since the key aircraft is 1 TU-160 in this scenario.
@robk1602 you are right they would. But both of those would alter the response.
@@92HazelMocha there’s no way they’d make it out of Russia without being detected
Hey Cap although you might not see this I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you put into these videos. The mods the scenario's and I'm sure there's tons of other stuff that we don't get to see. Also thank you to the boys and girls within GR for providing their time with the awesome flying.
I've been struggling terribly with my mental health of late and the daily upload is such a lovely escape from what are the stresses of daily life. Thank you Cap and the rest of the GR boys and girls, you're essentially doing God's work 🙏
dont tell cap but his BMW videos on GR2 are strangely mesmerising
Hope you can overcome your mental health problems, I found GR while I was in hospital and these videos really helped me as well. They still do.
Stay up brother. I really got into these during a similar time, excellent way to escape personal reality for a couple hours
I was in your situation myself, brother, long ago. Computer gaming helped, along with the therapy I got. I got my mojo working for you.
Thanks Darryl, messages like this is why I refuse to quit!
The Russian Federation spending $1.1B+ in a failed attempt to take out a single Target location is exactly what I would expect out of a GR video.
To be fair US lost more money through this attack and almost all of the damage was done via only 24 MiG-29s compared to almost 100 American planes from every direction. I'd say Russia won the battle with how they did more damage compared to how much they used to make the attack happen.
@@charlienash1050 This is true. Maybe Putin really did have some stock in Walmart after all...
It's also about what I expect from the current Russian military leadership.
@@vincemicron This is true.
I am from Maryland and it's so fun hearing how other people say its name. Love the attack on Target 🤣. Love your guys vids keep up the great work!
I have been to that Target lol.
It's MER-lan', right?
@@effsixteenblock50 it’s more like
mare-uh-land
@@effsixteenblock50 Mare like a horse right we got Pamlico than add an uh then say land so Mare-uh-land and just say it quick 🤣
Last week, the Air Force confirmed that the F-15EX Eagle II fighter completed tests out over the Gulf of Mexico, demonstrating that it can carry up to 12 air-to-air missiles under its wings at one time.
Ward Carroll’s channel recently had a guest on that knew the EX fairly well. Fly in, launch all hell then boogie out at Mach 2.49. 29,000lb of thrust per engine, and it’s a responsive 29k.
There was a huge fight with the public, here in Vermont to host the new F-35's. I'm glad the government and the Base pulled "security" card in the end, and we got our planes!
@@flashgordon6670 "too loud" or "louder than the F16s they replaced". The Airport is not a pure Air Force base but rather a small International Airport right in the middle of Vermont's most populated area. Most Vermonters supported the F35s. There was a very loud vocal minority that didn't want them.
@timkirchoff3869 yes sir, this was the exact reason. I was in favor of having one of the best airframe on the planet, right here!!
I'd like to hear from the people that complained "IF" we ever "NEEDED" them like for real. See if they still complaining then
@@flashgordon6670 NIMBY.
Bernie Sanders fought the F35 until they were being based, so he got rid of the turbofan A-10s for the F35 jets…
If you really want to simulate this attack you would attack Norfolk Virginia which houses the world's largest naval base along with Langley AFB and Fort Eustis.
There is so much in that area .NewPort News shipyard is where they build supercarriers .VA,Beach NAS.
Norfolk would have been even harder and less likely to attack. I looked at it before deciding Boston. There would be additional aircraft joining if Norfolk was picked, including the Naval Air Station nearby. I quite literally picked the closest location on the east coast they could possibly reach that would be a Doolittle raid style attack. More for the psychological effect.
Let's not forget over 200 f18 supers camped out on NAS Oceana
With the amount of the military industrial complex in Massachusetts and New Hampshire, trust me there was PLENTY of targets.
No one mentions ever Connecticut 😞Electric Boat, Pratt & Whitney, Sikorsky. We can be military targets too.
Yea, there’s a Target nearly everywhere now. Not many are Super Targets though, not enough at least, when I need groceries.
Yes but this Target has a Starbucks in it, and Putin likes his mocha Frappuccino
@@92HazelMocha If he likes his Frap, he shouldn’t blow it up🤷🏻
Ikr even the cape cod joint base would be better
To be faaaaaaaair...
If Ukraine is any indicator, Russian targeting WOULD choose a chain store over something like the Norfolk naval yards.
@Cap Naval Station New York has guided missile cruisers and in Norfolk Va you have the home fleet too. Meaning as soon as the Russians started moving to the east coast they would all be in a picket. That is the only thing you missed on this but it is a big one.
not to mention every sub in the Atlantic going after the Russian fleet like pike vs ducklings.
@@MarkoDash as soon as they move out of murmansk the european subs are going to follow them, especially in this political situation.
@@dominik1993sagner also, even tho we wouldn't need them, like at all, article 5 too. That's the end for Vlady
The National Guard is a part-time force that trains one weekend per month, and one or two weeks per year. They have both air and ground forces. They can be, and were deployed to Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
It's worth noting that while the NG on the ground has a reputation for incompetence, the air national guard is generally very well trained.
@@92HazelMocha There's margin for error in the army - you can screw up marching around without making national headlines. There's a lot less of that in the air.
“One weekend a month one week a year” doesn’t apply to fighter guys in the same way it does to other guard jobs, but generally yeah they’re part time. That said, they go to the same training as active duty, and in fact are mixed into the same classes at UPT as the active duty guys; the only difference is they already know what their assignment will be on graduation. Air Guard pilots are generally considered to be on par with active duty, especially as they tend to actually fly more and have less BS administrative duties.
Cap TU95 can be hunted like Red October due to a frequency generated by the counter rotating supersonic roto blades. This soundwave resonates in the North Atlantic Ocean and can be detected in New York City . Tom Clancy was actually supersized by this and not likely molded in-game .
Thanks
i used to live in virginia near the NAS Oceana navy base and i would love to see some type of war games involving that base. By looking online there seems so be about 250 F/A-18 super hornets and i was lucky enough to get a tour of the base and hangers from my friend an F-18 pilot. Also with the navy ships stationed in that area and the Langley air force have with 5th gen, it would be cool to see THE BLOB of F/A-18s all scrambled.
Kind of funny this scenario and what you're describing reminds of the novel "Hunt for Red October" which had huge chunks of the Soviet navy moving full speed to the east coast and the US military scrambled to get fighters and even flattops and ships to get in range. But yes the Soviets couldn't make it to the American shoreline without the US noticing.
As a side note I've known many pilots who were full time Air Force who move to National Guard to keep doing some flying.
Russian fleet steaming towards US shores? only an american fiction writer would be as dumb as thinking that would ever happen. Russia is playing chess, US/west are playing checkers/Hungry Hippo
@@JK-dv3qe Was this supposed to be some kind of "putin is soooo smart" schpiel when I mentioned this was a bloody novel from the get go?
@@lorencasuto1249 i was just pointing out that the premise of the novel seems far-fetched but it is fiction-novel after all. lots of novels have been written about USA winning Vietnam too
The most unrealistic thing about this scenario is thinking the Kuznetsov can even run
It's being refitted with new technologies like other US carriers. And yes big ships will catch fire when restoring the same thing happened in US a few months ago a ship under maintenance caught fire. And a British sub on its way to participate in war games caught fire last year and was forced to surface. People are just being dumb about the capabilities of the Russians. If pentagon tells you the Russians are ahead in rocket technology they are. pentagon has even admitted that the Chinese has out pace US in ai technology and programing. US marines use Chinese compact drone's on missions. I mean at this point people start looking really uneducated with these statements.
@@marshalljulie3676 uneducated about Russian capabilities? Have you not looked at what’s happening in Ukraine? Even if the ship was properly maintained over the last 3 decades and in good working order (which it isn’t) the Russian navy wouldn’t have the necessary skills, personnel, or technological prowess to launch Al carrier operations period let alone in hostile waters off the U.S. coast while being bombarded by the most capable navy in the world. “Russian Capabilities” i laugh
@@Vulcanus3231 The same way people laugh on "Have you not looked at what’s happening in Ukraine?"
You can't answer this question before "What sould have happened in Ukraine?" question. And we have nothing to compare it against, the amount of military aid for Ukraine makes this conflict absolutely unique.
@@dm1i Iraq was one of the largest militaries in the world in 1991/2003. Trained by the soviets and even french in some cases. In Desert Storm the US rolled over them and retook Kuwait in a matter of days. In '03 we were doing thunder runs through Baghdad in a month.
The Russians have been overestimated, and thats putting it generously.
@@huntermurphy2148
> Iraq was one of the largest militaries in the world
So does Ukraine, which uses modern NATO and late USSR equipment, on average the same generation as Russian. Iraq military tech was very outdated.
> Trained by the soviets and even french in some cases.
Ukrainian forces are trained by NATO 8 years in a row directly for this exact conflict, as NATO officials say.
> In Desert Storm the US rolled over them
It was not only US, it was a coalition of 7 nations. And Iraq was on it's own, left by allies.
In Ukraine situation is directly opposite. Russia is doing everything on its own and Ukraine is regulary supplied by all NATO members with a modern tech. It never runs out of equipment.
And the most powerful thing in Ukrainian side is outside intelligence. Every Ukrainian move is coordinated by NATO based on their satellites and AWACS planes data, which cannot be shot down, because Russia is not in direct war with NATO yet.
I'd love to see a followup with the US Atlantic fleet chasing the Russian Carrier Group. It would make a interesting battle with the strong air defenses of the Russians but with now only 4 MiG-29s. You could even throw in some B-1s or B-52s for even more anti-ship missiles.
They'd never make it back to Russia. They'd be tracked by satellites and drones and sunk by bomber launched antiship missiles or naval assets
We’d see a battle that’d dwarf the Jutland!
@@williamfoote2888 LOL it would last 3-5 minutes. Our fast attack subs would launch a few spreads of our mark 48's from about 5 miles out - the Virginia and Seawolf classes hold 50-65 torps/missiles EACH. A single torp will take out almost anything because they are "back breakers" they come up under the ship and explode and even if you need 3 for each ship they are so quiet that a ship moving at speed wont hear them let alone the subs. The Russian subs we trailed and recorded during my time in were horribly loud, since they have shit maintenance the only dangerous ones were the new boats and the diesel electrics at least during my time in. Russians did have the better offensive weapons tho.
Remember back in the original COD MW2 that Russia actually managed to sneak past the entirety of Europe and launched an assault on the east coast?
Supposedly they came from far North..
And it appears only America have a Satellite detection system
So when it's hacked, nobody can detect anything anymore.
😂😂
First off, I LOVED THIS SIM!!! I live in Norfolk Virginia. Home to the largest navy base in the world, but also about 20 minutes from Langley AFB which is involved in this simulation! One thing to note, almost 24/7 F/A-18 super bugs can be heard and seen flying out over the Atlantic for practice/training. I think the main disclaimer is the EXTREME unreliability of the Russian carrier group. I honestly don’t think it could make it over here without breaking down, much less without being noticed and intercepted…
Without a model for the tugboat that is towing the Kuznetsov this is highly unrealistic. LOL
IDEA :
For future naval simulations, to account for submarines (which are not properly modelled in DCS) could you mod the absolute hell out of a surface ship so that it behaves and is interacted with, similar to how a submarine would? E.g mess with detection and engagement ranges, speed, weapons etc so that in terms of numbers it would be similar to a submarine, though obviously the visual model would still be a ship but still... Ygm?
Oh, I forgot about the Virginia's. They'd probably sink that fleet real fast if war came. Of course, then you'd also have to simulate the alpha's defending the fleet.
The Russian aircraft carrier would have caught fire halfway across the Atlantic Ocean before even making it to the US coastline
It wouldn’t be going anywhere fast anyways because it’d like be under tow by a tug boat.
They had a fire-fighting vessel following it??
I lol'd. Thank you, good sir.
@@grimreapersthen , idk , if they have tugboats why not that too ,
Also , cap , USA is sending Abrams , I heard so
You know what to do
@@BrownSofaGamer this is not a game kids, if push come to shove most of your major cities would be levelled by Russian nuclear subs in less than 10 mins, all the adults over the age of 40 know this to be fact.
"It's a STORE" That response was gold lmao 🤣
Langley is mostly a Research Center . Over the years with residential encroachment jets have to take off as vertical as possible .
"We're attacking singing called Target" 😅😂😅
As far as an attractive Target that they would actually go after near Boston that would be the Pave Paws installation at Otis Air National Guard base down on Cape Cod Massachusetts. Basically the little arm that stretches out into the ocean off of Massachusetts.
I can all but guarantee that that installation is on a first strike package for any kind of an attack whether it be nuclear or conventional due to its capabilities for early warning.
I live right next to it and use to work out there lol.
Pave Paws would see the ships and aircraft when the task force got into the open Atlantic.
Nahh, they would probably attack Walhburgers. Much more important strategic landmark.
WOLVERINES!
Oh, wait...
Yeah, what the hell, it works 😁
OMG. The 'Target' that was being targeted, and everyone's reaction to Cap's take on it (both in the video and the comment section) is pure GR gold!
Biggest problem with this scenario is it's awfully optimistic to assume the Kuznetsov can make it across the Atlantic without a major power-plant breakdown.
Just have multiple tugboats to escort it 😂
@@X.Y.Z.07 they already do lmao I remember cruising near her when I was in the Navy - HUGE cloud of smoke like a smoke screen around her on a calm day with at least 2 tugs right up against her. I said Christ that is what we are scared of, and my CO said it aint the ships we worry about, it is their subs and icbm's that we worry about.
@@OG_Mac79 it seems since Soviet era, the Russian subs are much of bigger threats, compared to their surface fleet..
They're harder to detect, able to stay underwater for months, and carries ICBMs..
Excellent communication Reapers!!! Lots of stuff in the air, and that communication and vectoring everyone to proper targets was spot on!!! Nice flying as always Grim Reapers!!!
This was so good! Thank you for putting all the time and effort into these that you do!
The target is Target!!
Hahaha 🤣
Love it! Setting up scenarios like this and letting the guys figure out how to handle it are my favorite videos! Keep up the great work Cap and GR team!
Also, I do not think any target store is worth this many missiles so maybe we let Russia bomb those and save the missiles for real targets like the Alamo or H-E-B!
A Tu-160 mothershipping a ton of R-77s like the B1R could help in this scenario.... Idea for a retry, question mark
Even better with R-37Ms
I like your question mark.
maybe good scenario after R-77s get more realistic model. Now it can do 90 degree on a dime at full speed
There are F15's on Cape Cod from time to time. as well as the PAVE PAWS for the entire eastern seaboard as far as good targets. it can see from greenland to argentina so good luck getting that close
@@flashgordon6670 that's why I was saying it would be a good target i guess
The National Guard are reserve branches of the US military, under the nominal command of state governors. They are not a "Home Guard". During peacetime, they train to maintain proficiency. During overseas military ops, NG units are activated and deployed as part of the regular armed forces.
They're basically what the Second Amendment means by "well-regulated militia" - the descendants of the state militias, from back when political thinkers were worried about having a federal military.
This was so GR.
I doubt they exist, but water dye mods might be the cherry on top for things like this; dye the land green, and the magical Iron Curtain Teleport zone Red.
i mean the aircraft carrier is still being repaired but it went on fire again some weeks ago so no way will they be able to get it working and operational lol
Only the greatest of ships can randomly spontaneously set on fire and the crew just considers it normal.....
Hey Cap, just an FYI, Canadian fighters can be forward deployed to other Canadian bases. So the fighters at Bagotville (pronounced bear got ville) could be forward deployed to either CFB Trenton in Ontario or CFB Greenwood in Nova Scotia which would bring the fighters much closer to Boston.
2:08: You forgot Dover AFB in Delaware. I actually got intercepted by a flight of two F-16s out of there on an interception training exercise. And Warfield ANG base with the 175TFS flying A-10s (which might be able to launch an attack on the Kutznetsov.)
5:24: The US actually uses a type of blimp over the US NE to fill the AWACS roll. JLENSS (Joint Land attack cruise missile Elevated Netted Sensor System) is basically a tethered blimp with a high power radar on it a couple thousand feet up.
Nope, we didn't miss either. Dover is home to Air Force Air Lift command and no fighters. The JLENS program was discontinued in 2017.
@@flashgordon6670 If you look at the continental shelf for that area, it might be tough for a submarine to get close enough. Plus there are Sub bases and surface fleet ports not too far away. Also it wouldn't be as exciting.
Perhaps the target is America's most popular (former) governor, Charlie Baker. Also, Raytheon's about 35 miles north-northwest from Boston, so there's that.
Been watching these videos for a while now and a huge fan, and awesome to see Canada in a battle! That made me happy lol keep up the entertainment guys! And shout out to cap for the amount of thought and effort you put into setting up these scenarios!! ❤️
Canadian Super Bogs use high octane maple syrup as a fuel.
It's a high energy fuel.
"Burlington Air National Guard"... I had to look in on this just to be sure but not even on the Vermont Air National Guard web page is it called the Burlington Air National Guard. Also that was my Dad's last unit before leaving the military as a LtCol in '91. He transferred from the F4 to the F16A with them. He liked the F16A except the part where the control board would short out sometimes when you wanted to use your missiles. He once told me "You can use your control panel, or your missiles but you can't use both". Still have his flight bag with helmet from his days as an F16 pilot. The bag and helmet visor cover even still have the unit patch on them.
Also apparently he dropped a meatloaf on Bernie Sanders (then mayor of Burlington, VT) during a unit party while he was there. None of that last sentence is a euphemism, he literally dropped a meatloaf on him at a party.
Bangor Maine is a NORAD base and should have been included, just FYI
Look up 9/11 response and you will see fighters scrambled from there on 9/11
Bangor Maine is where the king of the road is heading, not the KH-65s.
Banger. Kind of funny since England has sausages called Bangers.
Hardly know ‘er
I live in New Hampshire so this was very interesting!
Good lord, the sub pens, that's not a smart move.
The F-15 was always used as an interceptor in US NORAD units, replacing the F-106A/B in the late 70's to mid 80's. I served in the 318th FIS at McChord AFB in Tacoma WA which was part of the NORAD 25th Air Division and Northwest Air Defense Sector and worked on F-15A/B in 1988-1990. As the fastest tactical fighter, it was the obvious interceptor not just because of its speed but its long range, whereas the F-16 had a range of 150-250 miles at most.
Really good one guys, thank you!
Cap wins with the closest pronunciation of Bagotville. I was born there! Lol keep up the great work guys. Love the videos!
That's as far as their English lessons got. Must've just typed "target" into their Garmin's
There are KC135 tankers at ANG bases in New Jersey and Bangor, Maine.
There’s also Otis/joint base cape cod which is an air force base
Green Mountain Boys!!! No Air refuelers out or Pease Air Force Base (Portsmouth, New Hampshire)?
I get Vermont F-35 flyovers often here in New Hampshire. Often they are headed in the general direction of the coast or returning, but sometimes they are maneuvering in my area. When skies are clear and I can see them, they almost always are traveling from point A to point B. When it is overcast and they can't be seen, is when they are occasionally seeming to be dogfighting above the clouds. Once you learn what that sounds like, you won't ever mistake it for an airliner ascending or descending, nor a big private jet taking off or landing at our airport (which has no commercial flights, but some private jets, including a couple of big ones) a couple of miles away. The duration and variability of the sound while maneuvering is a big clue to run outside and confirm that it's cloudy.
They never seem to transmit ADS-B, unlike several other types of military aircraft that often pass over my area, where a decent fraction of the time, at least one of a group will show up at least briefly on adsbexchange.
"Russia sends Kuznetsov to the east coast" is one of the shortest jokes I've ever heard. This thing can't move a meter without breaking down or catching fire, or both.
Fire generates smoke. Smoke equals stealth. Hence a stealth attack ;)
As Napoleon said, “Une armée de l’air voyage sur son réservoir decarburant.”
Oui l avion Blanc de Napoléon
About 50 miles north of Boston in Portsmouth, NH, is Pease ANG base, home of the 157th Air Refueling Wing flying KC-46 Pegasus tankers.
Great vid Cap and crew! I really wish the Canadians would have stuck around a little longer. Im sure Burlington would have enjoyed to share some Vermont maple syrup with their northern neighbors!
cap, Westfield AFB is more of a logistic base due to the small size, this base is mostly known for cargo transport. but yes it does have a hand full of f-15. I know this because I sometimes hear and see them flying over my home 10 minutes away from the base. fun fact, this base is not located in Westfield, its located in Chicopee mass.
I believe you mean Westover ARB that hosts the 439th Airlift Wing. Westfield is only home to F-15s of the 131st FS
National Guard units can and do rotate into war zones at times; as do reserve units. There are many active duty veterans in these units as well.
The New Hampshire National Guard has the KC 135 and now the KC 46 refueling aircraft. Not that it would be super helpful in this scenario it is definitely a incredible resource and only about 50 miles from Boston
OMG your bombing tescos. 🤣🤣🤣
Dam you Putin!
You did a good job of illustrating my home state of New Jersey, CAP. How many tugboats did it take to get the Admiral Kuznetsov across the ocean?
Usually one or two but atm irl that ship can’t leave port ever.
the submarines/torpedoes. torpedoes (not the 'pedoes' like in US government)
@@ScribeHolder I was trying a little humor.
Is their stuff really in that much disrepair?
@@ShootBlueHelmets as far as that ship, yes. A US oil powered aircraft carrier on its last cruise before being retired was in better condition than that ship was when it was brand new.
Air National Guard pilots are usually active duty pilots who have retired. Whereas the average pilot in the USAF is a Captain (O-3), the average pilot in the Air National Guard is a Major (O-4). The Air National Guard is governed by the state whereas the USAF is governed by the federal government; however, each Air National Guard Base can be federally activated in times of need. I was and F-111 and F-16 Avionics Systems Specialist in the USAF stationed at Cannon AFB, NM (522nd FS). Later, I joined the California Air National Guard in Fresno, CA (194th FS) as an F-16 Avionics Systems specialist and we were federally activated after the September 11th attacks. I remained federally activated for a year.
That f-15 fighter wing used to be stationed at Otis Air Base on Cape cod, that's where they scrambled some of the fighters for 9/11. Much better location but they pretty much abandon that base nowadays.
A better more realistic target would have been the power plant in Plymouth Massachusetts btw.
There is a ANG base on Long Island, NY in the hamptons called Grabesky (spellcheck) that would house F15s for this scenario
I haven't seen this yet but I do have a little knowledge of what early warning systems the US has on the East Coast. This should be interesting.
Attacking target and commentary from the team was gold
I feel sorry for Boston when Washington DC would be a much more beneficial target at this time.
There is a Airbase in OSHKOSH WI.
4:18 that's freakin hilarious!😂🤣 I love British humor!👍👍
5:40 They'd most likely have NASAMS 2 air defense systems as well
I’m sorry but target being the target is hilarious😂
It would be interesting to incorporate the mass amount of tankers on the east coast into these sims if possible
“They don’t throw ships and missiles at each other anymore”
Cap, my brother in Christ, where have you been for the last year?
Hiding.
Never thought i would see Barnes ANG Base featured in one of these videos lol. They hold a killer Air-Show. Those F-15's are loud.
How about a Scandinavian scenario (including Finland)
Should be an interesting mix of assets to do a scenario with ;)
Love that you included Canada 🇨🇦
I think they would probably have been sent out to escort more AWACs to ensure a second fleet wasn't coming in further north.
everything from trenton and cold lake would probably be ripping across the country as well
I saw that NORAD included the Canadians for theater defense and noticed their base was far but close enough to be able to possibly assist. If I was adding the F-22s from Langley, I had to add our friends from the North.
@@CombatIneffective yeah, theyd probably need a top up on the way lol
@@sharpy3453 I am just amazed that they made it. And if their fuel had held out they arrived almost in the nick of time!
Great enjoyable video.
What a great way to spend a Thursday night. Beers, snacks and Red planes getting smashed. Thanks GR! 🇨🇦 Veteran
When I was young, I saw f-16s parked at the Westhampton Air National Guard base. I don't know if they deactivated the base or something, but I have definitely seen them there!
In MA? Westover?
@@williamfoote2888 no, Westhampton. On long island. I had no idea that they were f-16s at the time, but I remember EXACTLY what they looked like, and now I know exactly what they were!
I can't find any evidence of permanent basing, but apparently it's definitely been the case in the past 🤷♂️
Never sure if Kusnetsov is steaming along nicely or seriously on fire, especially when burning mazut fuel, you can see it coming over the horizon from the other side of Iceland from the top of a sandcastle on Ascension Island. Aircraft have no trouble finding their ship but can't see to land through the smog ☹️
As a Connecticunt I feel slighted when you simulate an East Coast attack and don't even think of bombing Groton, CT "Submarine Capital of the World!"
Quite fun video. Another interesting idea would be 2020's USN carrier group vs 5 Visbys and 10 CB90s. My testing is...... interesting.
In the book The Hunt for Red October (not the movie) A-10s from guard units on shore mock-attacked a Soviet destroyer that got too close.
The question is, if Russia decided to use the Kh-47 Kinzhal missle, would they have successfully targeted the target, Target??
Cap, wouldn’t the USA have a carrier battle group, or 4 Arleigh Burkes & 2 Ticos, shadowing the Kuznetsove and its battle group?!?
They only use Ticos as air defence command ships for carrier battlegroups now, but a load of Burkes more than likely.
I laughed 😅 so much when you said you found a "Target " in Boston, so we will attack that. Outstanding CAP! Enjoy the videos sir...
Only Grim reapers would attack a Target superstore in Boston.
One, thank yall for existing. Two, is it bad that I almost want this to happen? I like my chances living in southern MD between a major city & our capital. Pretty heavily shielded space. I'd love to watch Vlad try to spin the collapse of his navy.
There are some naval basas along the way that will likely have something with antiship missiles on board. Likely at least one carrier group parked in Norfolk at any given time.
I think for mission range it would be extended in this scenario, by civ flights being rerouted and grounded and civ run ways being used for landing as an emergency action as more reinforcements were moving end. They wouldn't be able to rearm or fuel but this would only be to buy time for the defense force to get on their footing.