Aeroplane Heaven de Havilland Canada DHC-1 T10 Chipmunk Review Duxford - Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
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The Chipmunk is one of the most loved little aeroplanes out there and it is great to see a developer bringing it to Microsoft Flight Simulator.
We take the Chippy for a first flight out of Duxford and see how she behaves in the sim.
*Just to confirm the lagging/stuttering was not caused by the aircraft. Made another test flight next day and no issues. Just one of those sim things lol! *
The Duxford scenery used in this video is the excellent Duxford Complete by ChicoMick. Link down below.
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Thanks for doing the review. Visually it is an impressive model, though I have some reservations about other aspects of the package. I have about 100 hours on Chipmunks and Tiger Moths and that engine, heard from the cockpit, does not sound at all like a Gipsy Major to me. That whole whirring sound is wrong, they are quite guttural. It's not so bad from the external views. Also, the whole relationship between engine RPM, power and airspeed looks wrong, the whole thing is revving far too high a lot of the time. I notice that at 22:28 it was giving you 3000 RPM at full throttle at 140 knots, which is grossly excessive - way beyond redline which is 2675 rpm with the throttle at least one-third open. It is not great to be going over 2550 RPM in a Chippie if you value your £25K Vintec engine. At low level a Chipmunk cruises at 2000 rpm at 90 KIAS. Try climbing at 70 KIAS at low level, by the way. 65 above about 6,000 feet. Carb heat: the RAF had its Chipmunks permanently wired in warm air - the Chipmunk does not really have a hot air system in the Lycoming sense - because they had long runways and didn't care about the fuel burn. Though it does not reduce the power by more than about 5-10 bhp, unlike on a Lycoming. Cold air is definitely preferred for aerobatics if the weather is half-way decent.
Harry thanks so much for that information. It’s great to get some input from someone who has been lucky enough to fly the real thing! Thanks also for the explanation on the hot air!
I’ve noticed the RPM issue as well, from a couple of short flights. I’d reckon on a 90kt cruise at 2100rpm. They’ve also gone for a 1960s vintage instrument fit (oil pressure and turn and slip) - I don’t think many aircraft today have the wartime style instruments.
That temp was high all through the flight but I expect that’s a consequence of the high RPM.
And a 100kt approach is “bold.” :-) Flap limiting is 93kts for first stage, 71 for second. I’d go for 65kts approach and 55 over the hedge.
Great video, thanks :-)
I am so glad that other people are finally catching on to the gross inaccuracy of the internal engine sound. I was blasted in the MS forum for pointing this out. I hope AH pays attention and fixes these issues.
@@grahamkehily5503 Absolutely agree on the approach speeds. If you were needing 2100 rpm for 90 knots low down then I suspect the one you were flying had a Hoffman prop, they are a bit finer-pitched. The original Fairey-Reed props are getting really hard to find in serviceable condition now.
@@harryspeakup8452 Having done some circuits and bumps this morning I can confirm that flying an approach and correct speeds is a far more comfortable and rewarding experience than coming in over the fence like you are in a Spit. But then you chaps knew that anyway ;) Many thanks for the tips.
This is proper flying, what a beautiful rendition of a beautiful aircraft. I love this in the SIM, thanks for the review.
@@philgreen815 many thanks!
Great to see that someone has brought back the Chippie. I did all my private licence and all my instructors rating on chippies. Never did see one that could be steered on the ground. The way it was, you set half brake with the lever, and with the rudder central, there was no brake. However if you were to apply somewhere near full rudder (and this depends upon how far you pulled the brake lever) you would get braking on that wheel. So for taxying, you would mostly have half brake selected. The sound is not too good from inside, but outside was much more like the gypsy major engine sound I had come to know and love. From memory, and this is from 1962 era, I thought the flap lever moved the wrong way, but I stand corrected if you can get your hands on a real one. Our maximum RPM was 2100 for climb and 2050 for cruise, but I guess it depends on what prop is installed. Track IR may well be fabulous, but it's not too good for a demo video, darting all over the place makes it hard to follow the point you are making. Anyway, it may sound like I am being critical of your work - far from it. Very appreciative that you would take the time and effort to produce something like this. Thanks again, best regards, Phil
Many thanks. That have apparently released an update and one of the amends relates to RPM. Apologies about the TrackIR. I know it’s not great for some to watch. Unfortunately I can’t fly without it now but I will try and keep my head movements to a minimum in future 😀
i flew in these many times at the AEF at Marshalls, its the best flying ive ever had :)
Ah wonderful!
@@Dreamsofwings oh it was DoW and i felt safe as houses sitting in a flying tin can hahaha
closest thing you could get now is a Short Tucano :)
My kind of aircraft (and panel!), my kind of review. Did my first solo in a Tiger Moth on Friday 13th June 1947 (University Air Squadron). Never flew a Chipmunk, but did go on to Harvards, Meteors and Vampires.
New subscriber here. Many thanks for a nice relaxed review.
Thanks so much and what iconic aircraft you have flown sir! The Harvard is another favourite of mine.
@@Dreamsofwings I got my wings on Harvards. They used to say it had everything in it to prepare you for any aircraft. They were wrong, it didn't prepare you for the Meteor 8!
@@gordonwilkinson675 I can’t even begin to imagine! The Harvard must have felt quite uncomplicated in comparison.
@@Dreamsofwings What you might call a steep learning curve (for our instructors too). Early days of jets meant no GPS, no autopilot, inexperienced instructors - oh, and no ejector seats. Too many deaths during training.
@@gordonwilkinson675 yes I guess it’s hard to appreciate now just how much of a step change it was moving into the jet age, new skills and the additional risks. The ejector seat was certainly a marvellous innovation.
Another cracking flight sir and Duxford was indeed looking resplendent! The Chipmunk is one of my favourites, so it's nice to finally have it in the sim. I'm "glad" you found the same bugs as well - always good to know it wasn't just me haha.
Cheers and all the best! : )
Thanks very much! Yes it always helps when you know you aren’t the only with strange goings on! Hope all is good with you. Love your reviews!
Excellent review 👍 subscribed
Hey thanks so much!
An excellent choice sir! ; )
Brilliant great flight and presentation.cheers Charlie
Absolutely stunning - thank you for this Vid. Chears from Germany 🇩🇪
Many thanks! 🍻
I completely enjoyed this review video. Excellent work! I will definitely have to get myself one of these airplanes. 😎😀
Many thanks Glenn, much appreciated!
Nice review, see what you mean about the thin synthetic engine noise in-cockpit. Visually very nice though and handles well. An iconic vintage trainer! The stuttering will be when all the fantastic high detail Duxford scenery comes into view.
Thanks Al. Yes that was my point really with the stuttering. It isn’t something I normally see and I spend most of my sim time here. I did go up for another flight the next day, same conditions etc, and no stuttering so possibly something just going on in the background in my PC in this session.
Hello, I flew with an instructor when I was in the ATC Happy Days best regards Charlie in EMA
Ah wonderful, must have been great!
Yes pretty amazing, once at Luton flying club I flew in an Auster in the back “ bucket seat” blimey was I frightened at my numerous visits to Duxford took a few flights treating my nephews in the Dragon Rapide great experience, on one occasion the A/ C was in process of C of A renewal as flown for hire and reward, any time our folks from USA or Australia come to UK Duxford a must not so far for me being in EAST midlands. I did 12 hours-in a Cherokee 180;when I was withBritannia at Luton, subsidised flying club rates, went solo then got divorced flying ended! Luckily got a second chance married cabin services manager at Britannia more than 40;years ago sorry to ramble on , must be my age 70 in January 23. Thanks for your video presentations always entertaining and informative. Cheers Charlie
@@CMACJAZZ wonderful, you’ve had great experiences and thanks for sharing! 💪🏻
same here charlie, ex ATC, AEF at Marshalls, happy days :)
and i can proudly say that i have flown in a De Havilland aircraft 🥰
What a great video review + initial flight of the AH chippy. She’s now in my virtual hangar so looking forward to trying the aircraft out soon over the wonderful ‘chicomick’ Duxford 👍 - Hope I might one day have the chance to fly the real aircraft. #lifegoals #taildragger ☺️🤞
Thanks! It’s a wonderful little aeroplane. I would love to fly one too!
@@Dreamsofwings If I get the chance to qualify as PIC on type let’s do a trip!? In the mean time looking forward to some sim hours in the AH chippy. Cheers for the great video intro review mate. Great job!
@@AJL_UK that would be amazing! 🍻
Thanks, nice film and Duxford. I agree with other comments regarding the engine noise. Honestly I think the Khamsin Chipmunk is better.
czcams.com/video/Pl_HsbkHr_0/video.html. Check the Khamsin version - especially the engine noise.
Many thanks!
Decent review of a nice model. Just a few things I've noticed. In the real Chippy the flap lever works the other way around. Flaps down the lever should be fully back. The slip and turn should be needle and ball similar to the one in the bubble canopy version and the oil pressure gauge should be a round dial. A lot of the gauges seem to be from a slightly earlier period as in the spitfire for example. All this can be confirmed in the provided flight manual.
Thanks! Yes I have a feeling, also based on some feedback from some other ‘real world’ pilots that the RAF Chippy is probably modelled on an early version. I quite like the vintage feel of it.
So, I've made a discovery, you DON'T need a battery keybind if you don't wish. Put the flight/ground power switch in ground, set up to start and pull the starter ring, she'll pop right off, no battery, then flip the switch back to flight and off you go. I'm not sure, but I'm not convinced the RAF chippy actually had a battery, think they always started off ground power, if you look at the RCAF versions there is a retrofitted battery switch ontop of the glare shield as though the battery was a later addition.
Ah interesting, I couldn’t get it to start without the keybind battery on. I’ll have to take another look.
@@Dreamsofwings Hmmm, that's strange, I found as long as I was set to ground power it was fine, it did seem there were no indications of power until the engine started, I just had to pull and hope for the best.
I'm probably ocd about sound but those looping engine sounds drive me up the wall. Completely ruins immersion for me (1st world problems, I know).
It's a shame because AH usually do a good job otherwise.
Great review - always love your work.
Many thanks Roland! Much appreciated. I thought the looping sounds in this were better than the Spit and P-51 though. I’ve not tried the new sound pack for the Spit that has just been released so maybe that is improved.
Fantastic review
Thank you!
Great video. Have the plane too an also noticed the left wing fuel gauge reading Empty what could not be correct and I also could only set parking brake with my mapped key in my Honeycomb but not in VR with my mouse. First plane from AH that is flyable with engine sounds, all other are just awful including their newest v1.6 spit. This plane is the only one that's flyable because of ok engine sound but the loopy engine grind needs to be removed because that drives me bunkers at longer flights so still room for improvement engine sounds but it's a step in the wright direction for AH and I hope they change their attitude also when I complained about their terrible engines sound on my other bought planes from them I never ever fly again because of their terrible engine sounds that makes them unflyable. It misses base, real sound and lots more volume and still hope they replace it with new flyable ones especially for their Mustang P-51 that looks super but engine sounds is too bad to fly it. Thanks for showing it with your pro comments.
Thank you sir and I agree with you!
Nice video bud 👍
Cheers mate!
Suddenly thought, I could illustrate my point re the Khamsin Chippy - it’s on XP so no scenery competition! However, the panel is authentic and the sound is way better - stick with it til the canopy opens at the end to see what I mean.
czcams.com/video/Pl_HsbkHr_0/video.html
I'd like to buy this but for me I'd like a more accurate simulation. The engine just can't perform like that. Out of curiosity though, what sort of climb performance do you get if you set 2400rpm and climb at 70kts because it might not be too far off the mark.
On a more minor note, the flap lever is wrong in the simulation, it's forward when the flaps are retracted and pulled to extend flap.
This Chippie has been updated since making the video thankfully. RPM has been adjusted and flap lever now works the right way. Just did a quick test and at 2400rpm and 70kts IAS I am seeing 550-600 fpm climb rate. Here's a more recent video featuring the Chippie since the update czcams.com/video/Sd2kR37KUO4/video.html