Why I Left Christianity
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
- I have been a dedicated Christian since memories began about thirty years ago. I was a Jesus Freak kid, received a Bible degree from Moody Bible Institute, a pastor for six years, and obsessed with Christian apologetics. After a period radical spiritual anxiety and existential crisis, I am no longer a Christian. I am now in the best part of my spiritual life. This video will share everything that happened for me to go from confident Christian to having my faith completely collapse.
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00:00 - This video was NEVER expected.
00:51 - Brief context on my faith.
03:30 - The two simultaneous tracks that derailed my faith.
04:00 - FIRST: Faith begins to soften with a hypothetical Catholic lady.
06:46 - Extreme grace and infinite love.
09:04 - Entertaining universal reconciliation.
11:12 - SECOND: a new kind of spiritual understanding.
13:06 - A psychedelic experience…
14:45 - Crisis in Costa Rica.
17:12 - The quest for the truth of the universe begins.
19:17 - The book that reveals what happens after death.
23:01 - The bittersweet faith release.
24:34 - The Dark Night of MY Soul.
26:58 - Going to the Source for truth.
27:37 - Period of passionate stillness.
29:11 - Spiritual decision to trust myself.
30:17 - But… am I going to Hell?
31:34 - THIS removed all fear forever.
33:39 - Where I’m at now.
35:11 - TWO WAYS to discover the truth of the universe…
Hello Everyone! It's getting harder to respond to all of the comments, but I do want to just share... I did/do know that having a relationship with Jesus is *NOT* because of things you do. I understand, from the Christian perspective, that a relationship with Jesus means accepting the free gift of His sacrificial death as the absolute payment for one's own sin, and trusting in the miraculous resurrection as the power of forgiveness. Simply in trusting in Christ's death and resurrection is the restoration of a person's relationship with God from the moment of acceptance into eternity. I never considered any of my works as means for salvation, it was always solely on the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. The reason I shared that I was a Bible school student, youth pastor, and passionate about apologetics was to communicate that I was serious about my faith. I was never the type of Christian that just showed up on some Sundays and didn't care about my faith -- my faith permeated throughout my entire life. I hope this helps to clarify. Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts. Please remember, even though there may be disagreements, to share in love and kindness! ❤
Please watch Dr james white before you leave the faith. As atheism offer far higher anxiety.
You can leave Christianity and still be a follower of Christ like Swami Yogananda who wrote the Autobiography of a Yogi..
Your stupid body art gives you away. You're a culture whore. Christianity is to be IN JESUS, and he IN YOU. You love the praise of men, and so you have received your reward. "Faithful are the wounds of a friend."
But don't judge a matter before its conclusion. You have to go prodigal for a while.
But, I'd feel better if you we're so interested in living out loud. A seeker seeks when no one's watching.
I've been a Christian for over 50 years. I once thought that anyone who loves Jesus would never reject Him. Since CZcams has been around and I watch videos like yours I have been shown that I was wrong on this notion. I don't know if I will ever reject Jesus. So far my desire is to wash and kiss the feet of Jesus when I get to heaven.
Not me.
That is disgusting wash and kiss the feet of Jesus what the hell are you on.
I've had to learn this lesson too. I think it's taught sometimes almost on the same level as Christian theology because so many people are afraid of giving any legitimacy to anyone who has legitimate reasons for leaving or critiques against the religion. I don't really know how to make peace with it other than to just do my best to follow truth, and understand that most everyone else that truly thinks about it is doing their best to. We just sometimes land in different places. If I want people to assume I'm seeking truth in good faith, then I need to do the same for others.
You talk as though this is something that happens TO you over which you have no control. You will never reject Jesus if you decide not to.
@@whome9936 ,that goes for any God.
When the demons you've opened yourself up to start showing their true colors, you'll be back. Could take years, but you'll come back - to JESUS (not "Christianity").
If there are years left. With the way the world is going, I wouldn't ride on hoping to get saved down the line.
Amen 🙏
Like literally bro was such a devout christian but.... willingly opens himself to demons? His whole story is honestly one of literally being an idiot. And this is harsh to say, but like... come on bro if you're proclaiming yourself an apologist this is biblical narrative 101 😂
You think you know the teachings of Jesus. You don’t
@@hellooutsiders6865John 3:16, Romans 10:9, 1 John 1:9
There are so so many people who have the opposite journey of escaping the emptiness and endless striving within the New Age movement, spirit guides, energy, occultism, etc. and found rest and comfort in Jesus. While I didn't get into the "deeper" things, I myself would sit and meditate and find temporary peace and have hallucinogenic experiences that I felt connected me with the universe - but there was always a hovering existential fear in back of it. This went away completely in Christ.
I want you to consider that you did not have a relationship with Christ while you were in the “new age”. John, has had a relationship and developed discernment and wisdom from a life in the church. He is going into these explorations with his eyes wide open. Christ is still with him. He has left the religion, not Christ.
@@sterlingwalters Like him, I was Christian prior to this. Baptized at about 13, prayed, went to youth group, etc. I had a relationship with Jesus, who was calling me out of my rebellion.
@@sterlingwaltersThat's incorrect. Christ is no longer with him. There can't be multiple truths. Either you're with Christ or you're of the world, can't have it both ways.
There is neither truth in the Christian religion nor in any cults. There are no supreme saviors, not god, not king, not hero.
100%
The greatest triumph of the devil is to persuade the world that he doesn’t exist.
The idea of “ha satan” evolved and was influenced by the Zoroastrian figure of the Ahriman, this was a concept that cannot even be found in the book of Job, which is an entirely different “ha satan” this is what we learned in Hebrew Bible course and this is also why Judaism doesn’t have that concept of the “Devil” in Christianity, there’s lots of academic papers written on this topic. Peace.
Yet there's more people that believe that he exists than not.
@@bhavinmehta1490 Yeah, but the New Testament was written by Jews except the texts Luke wrote. So we know from just reading the greatest academic paper namely the Holy Bible, that the concept of Satan, a fallen cherub is mentioned in the Old and New Testament.
@@N0nPluzUltra you can actually see the idea of Satan evolve, what fallen cherub are you referring to here?
@@bhavinmehta1490 There is no such thing as evolution in the Bible. It is de-evolution. You see a continuous de-evolution from satan in the Bible. Starting as the "anointed cherub" that covers, to satan who fell from heaven, to satan bound for 1000 years, to satan ending in the lake burning with fire and brimstone.
Jesus, a Jew himself - more knowledgeable in the Old Testament than all scribes at this time said: "I saw satan fall from heaven as lightning"...
In Job it is obviously the same satan and the same fallen angels (sons of GOD) appearing before the LORD.
One time satan himself quoted from the OT to Jesus Christ and the LORD rebuked him.
When I speak to Jews they acknowledge that satan is mentioned in the OT as a real being.
I don't know, where you've got your information from, but it was definitely not from the Bible.
Your story is the same as mine, I was brought up in traditional Christianity and felt like something was not right about Christianity so I left it and I went into New Age/New Thought self love oneness ideals. It felt really amazing at first, like I was reaching a new spiritual enlightenment. I started communicating with at the time higher beings feeding me spiritual knowledge as well. I then had a event where I had went to a spiritual psychedelic ceremony where I felt like I died and went to a place of "oneness" where I felt like i connected to billions of souls there, it was all love and wisdom...then it turned into confusion. Everyone there thought they were God, I felt like i was stuck in that state of confusion of who is God forever and I was there for all eternity. After that I had external demonic attacks. They even went after my wife. We prayed and asked Jesus to help...they never came back. I also had a miracle happen to me when I got food poison and tried all that new age/new thought teachings to try to heal myself, i went to prayer and surrendered to Jesus for help and I was instantly healed and felt like I was shot with 5 red bulls & full state of joy. After that day I realized I fell for the greatest deception of light, I was in so much pride thinking I could be enlightened...at even one point saying I am part of God and I am God. I am now a born again Christian and never felt more at peace before. In my earlier days I was to focused on doing the right things and totally missed understanding the Grace of God through Jesus Christ. Also God being a Just and Loving God. These spirit guides are demons acting as light beings, I speak from experience. They are lying to you about past lives, they tried to do the same thing to me. The bible is right the devil comes both in the form of dark and light. I know there will be people that read this will say this is all fear stuff as it will conflict with their ideals, but it is not. Look at all the New Age to Christianity testimonies on youtube of people similar experiences as me. It is all about you being your own God (truth) by your feelings alone. There is no root in that without the word of God. That is not God, that is you being God...The first sin committed by humans. Eat this fruit and you can be like God, that is Satan in the light form. He wants you to feel ok with sin and totally take out the Grace of Jesus Christ.
New Age destroyed my sister's brain. She tried communicating with space aliens according to books she read and she ended up literally going bonkers with psychotic episodes and can't go without anti psychotic medications. She quit bathing and hasn't showered since her mental collapse in 1995. STAY AWAY FROM NEW AGE.
You were never born again to begin with. Being "raised" Christian does not mean you had a genuine relationship with God
Powerful testimonies! Thank you for sharing!!
so you tapped out when it got tough
@@planes3333 How did you draw that conclusion?
I was a Christian for over 2 decades. After diving into the bible deeply, included the banned books, I fully deconstruct and living the best life I ever lived. So many great things has been happening because I'm no longer living in fear and depression.
What banned books are you referring too?
@@Bebopeep // banned and made illegal with a little help from Emperor Constantine and the Roman military. Books they deemed "not worthy " which is crazy.
I want to read banned books
@zachdyer // You can actually Google them. I think at one point, they compiled them and have them on Amazon.
@@BebopeepEnoch, Jubilee, Jasher, etc...
Hi John,.....very similar journey! - I've read Newton's books and some of the other authors you mentioned, was raised LDS, then born again christian, but was always a universalist mystic at heart, so now am more of a spiritualist, meta-theist, theosophist...because TRUTH is universal anyways, and consciousness is the fundamental reality, - that pure awareness at the heart of all is 'God', being all--pervading and all-inclusive. - subscribed! - look forward to engaging more in discussions and networking.
When you’re telling your story, I feel like you are describing exactly what I went through so I don’t believe it was a coincidence that I came across the video that you just posted because I found myself doubting 🫘 my self and confused and guilty the last few weeks for questions the Bible and this really helped me so thank you Thank you.
Sorry, just wanted to share this last thing.
Proverbs 14:12 ❤
"There is a way that seems right to a man,
but its end is the way to death."
Death? No problem! ETERNAL TORTURE For not believing the right thing? That is EVIL. I'm so glad that your god is fictional.
Motivation by fear. The exact psychological tool used by the Holy Roman Empire to control the poor serfs and keep them submissive (and working!) when they INVENTED the guilt and ritual-based religion that JESUS (Yeshua) DID NOT START. Jesus was a devout Jew and end-time apocalypticist who said that people needed to start treating others well and loving others BECAUSE "The Son of Man" was imminently coming to judge people on their ACTIONS!
"Some of you standing here will not taste death before you see The Son of Man coming upon the clouds in judgment."
Paul took the thoroughly Jewish end-times judgment message of Jesus and instead invented a religion ABOUT JESUS. JESUS WAS NOT STARTING A RELIGION!!!
If you are a follower of the TEACHINGS of Christ, you should now apologize to this nice man for threatening him with death just because he doesn't BELIEVE what you CHOOSE to BELIEVE.
How many books have you read to learn about the origins of the Bible and who wrote it? None?
Then you blindly believe just as I did due to my childhood programming for 20 years.
"Treat others how you'd like to be treated".
Thats the problem with Christianity , its a subjective religion invented 3500 years ago, with subjective truth and clkaims to be the one and only objective way. A "one and only " god Yahweh was in 295,000 years of human existance NEVER mentioned in any of the millions of human religious testimonies. The reason appears to be that he was invented 5000-3500 years ago.
@@user-vm5yk2js6w …I have evidence that there’s absolutely no problem with Christianity my friend. The only problem is US & OUR SIN CONDITION. If you humble yourself right now, and cry our to Jesus Christ for forgiveness, you shall have you evidence too. Don’t be a fool like the Bible states and simply say “There is no God”. All the best!
@@freedom4life312 Well show me any human religious testimony of your "one and only god Yahweh" or of "adam and Eve" from 300,000 -6000 years ago. There are millions of religious testimonies out of that long period but NONE of your "one and only" god.
He is an invention of 5000-3500 years ago.
Of course once the fellow bible writers believed their story thet wrote anything to reinterpret the past in favour of their god and called everybody a fool that doesnt follow their invention. Just like you do.
So present your testimonies of your god of 300,000-6000 years ago.
My dearest best friend of 52 years, can only quote scripture when we talk, and its gotten worse over our seniors years. I do not express my spirituality by using quoted scriptures. When I express the scriptures in my own way of having life experiences that related, she will correct me by restating the scripture. It’s a bit frustrating at times, but I can see how she is literally in a trance and is locked into a hive mindedness. I love her and just observe and being judgmental is not my way. Thanks John
Thanks for sharing and I think you're doing a good thing, in patience to just observe and reserve judgement. ❤️
@@JohnRaineyChannel listen to Dr Gabor Mate videos and books he authored. You will gain a deeper knowledge to the extent of what it means to take personal responsibility for your emotions and your history that once we tend to our individual healing, it will change the world.
you are actually being judgmental. Its unavoidable when you are deciding on truth. "but I can see how she is literally in a trance and is locked into a hive mindedness." Thats a judgement.
Your doing exactly what Ecclesiates says. The heart despises wisdom.
What a great friend you have. She probably keeps quoting scripture because there’s a good chance that you are in bondage and only the truth can make you free. She loves you.
Love your honesty! There’s a lot of us in the same boat right now and it’s comforting to hear other peoples journeys. Thank you ❤
You are so welcome! ❤️
@@JohnRaineyChannel CONGRATS on leaving orthodox Christianity is igorance they follow YEHWEH WHOM IS ACTUALLY BAD AKA EVIL LOOK IT UP so there for explore and expand bro for real !
@@JohnRaineyChanneldude why do you have so many tattoos when you were a Christian
And why do you have a snake tattooed
Something is shady about you
Go watch the testimonies of people who die and go to hell
This is the description of what pursuing divinity or transcendence or meaning, or spirituality, or relationship with God looks like when we do it on our own terms, by our own wisdom, and in our own power. It always ends the same way in every case. We will either be humble, or be humbled. Seeing this same story play out is so sad. Love you and praying for you John!
John, I think there is a core belief at the center of following Jesus versus the path you are taking, and that is how we believe and understand ourselves to be. Your path now seems to be more about trusting yourself and your experiences. My personal testimony is that I can't do that. The reason I am convinced now more than ever that I need Jesus, is because as I look at myself, I can't deny my brokenness. For all I try to do well and good, there is so much more I find that is not good in me. If I'm honest with myself, I am quick to judge people harshly, I hate, I get impatient , I am selfish, I look to my own comfort and am agnostic over the suffering of others, I crave glory and attention, I get envious of other people... The list goes on. I have found no other answer that gives me hope that somehow things can be different in my life and in the world other than trusting in the goodness and perfect love of Jesus Christ. And that he has offered that all who trust in him will find healing and redemption, starting now and being completed in the new earth.
The story of how much you love your son, Miles, really struck me at the end. It is true, God loves you much more than you even love your son. Imagine Miles saying that he loves you, but then he just looks to other people and things for the love that you want to give him. Imagine him not listening to you or believing what you say. It would break your heart and grieve you. I think in the same way we grieve God when we look to our own whims for truth and a relationship with him, instead of listening to him and understanding who he has already revealed himself to be through his son, Jesus.
And yet, I can't imagine that John would ever condemn his son to eternal damnation - even if his son rejected him. No loving or just parent could torture their child for eternity - no matter WHAT that child did for the brief time they were on Earth. Is God less loving than the average human parent? Every child makes mistakes, most rebel at some point, to some degree. Many kids entertain strange beliefs, etc. Does a loving parent cut that child off forever, or does the parent teach them to do better?
Why was it necessary for God to kill his most perfect child, who was also himself(?), in order to forgive his other children for being the way He made them? I don't have to kill someone to forgive someone else, so the whole idea makes no sense to me. If God wanted us to all believe the same thing, why weren't we born with the knowledge of who God is and what he wants? Why is it that even Christians don't agree on the basic tenents of salvation (ie. faith/works)?
I believe in a Creator - but Christianity makes no sense to me.
@firstinthedance Hi, recent christian convert here. I can't really debate deeply since I'm really new , I've only read First four books of the new testiment and few old ones but, You know in old testament they used to sacrifice animals. They did that for forgiveness of their sins. Something innocent had to take our sins and die. So later God gave Jesus who was sinless and innocent and became the ultimate sacrifice for all our sins and all we have to do for salvation, to go to heaven is to repent our sins and trust Jesus.
God does love all and doesn't cut off anyone. We are the ones who are cutting him off. He also gave us free will because of his love.
God actually wants all to go to heaven (Hell exists for Satan) but because of Sin since adam, we can't. (Because of Sin, we basically condemned ourselves to Hell) Thats why he came in flesh and showed us the way.
(Everything happened because of the Sin since Adam. Sin is really serious and leads to death and destruction. We can see even around us. To clean us from Sin, Before Jesus and after too, he sent The Holy Spirit through which God cleanse us from our Sins and shows his love. )
@@petestone6327What you should really take note of is how Christians believe that atheists will suffer immensely for eternity, and that they DESERVE IT. You will not meet one single atheist who believes that Christians DESERVE to suffer immensely for eternity. NOT ONE.
@@petestone6327 What you should really take note of is how Christians believe that atheists DESERVE to suffer immensely for eternity. You will not find one atheist who believes that Christians DESRVE to suffer immensely for eternity. NOT ONE.
@firstinthedance
As a follower of Christ, I appreciate your questions and understand how Christianity's teachings can be challenging to grasp. The central belief behind Jesus' sacrifice is rooted in the concept of atonement and redemption. Christians believe that Jesus, as the Son of God, offered himself as a perfect sacrifice to reconcile humanity with God, bridging the gap caused by sin. This act demonstrates God's profound love and mercy, offering forgiveness and the opportunity for eternal life to all who accept it.
Regarding the diversity of beliefs within Christianity, it's important to recognize that Christianity is a diverse religion with various interpretations of its teachings. While core beliefs such as the divinity of Christ and the concept of salvation through faith are widely held, differences in interpretation can lead to varying views on specific doctrines like faith versus works.
As for why we aren't born with innate knowledge of God, Christians believe that faith and understanding of God are personal journeys that require free will and the ability to choose to believe. This allows for a deeper relationship with God based on personal choice rather than instinctual knowledge.
Ultimately, Christianity emphasizes love, forgiveness, and the pursuit of understanding, and I encourage you to continue seeking answers and engaging with these questions in a way that resonates with you.
Thanks for your story. Intense.
Do you remember how you became a Christian when you were around 5? And what made you a Christian (what was your understanding of what a Christian was versus your understanding now, of what a Christian is)?
I can relate to everything you said. Thank you for sharing and being vulnerable. One thing I struggle with is being fully open with my family and people from the past about leaving religion. Do you have any experience with this, or any advice on how to show up in the world as yourself, without fear of judgment from others for leaving Christianity?
Thank you for sharing. Being honest with oneself is always going to take us to existential crisis. And that’s okay. That’s necessary. Congrats and I hope you keep growing. God loves you. 🫶
I almost cannot believe I’m hearing this from a stranger on this topic. Technically you’re not a stranger cos I know you’re the one behind all Jenna’s videos and the voice behind the lens 😅 But I did not expect this topic to show up. I just assumed you enjoyed books that I seem to gravitate to lately. You have no idea how grateful I am to hear this. I’m not trying to rally believers who have fallen out. I literally asked my therapist 2 weeks ago if my transformation/growth is making me unable to identify as Christian. I still know I love God and I absolutely believe in faith. Not THE faith. I don’t know what I’m saying tbf. I just know I’m in a strange place now
Thanks for sharing. I hear you. It is strange to reconcile all of these things -- of God, life, observations, intuition -- it's hard to reconcile that with a Christian faith that has such strict boundaries. And if you question, oftentimes you're told to not doubt or just dig your nose into Scripture, etc. I hope all the good things for you and that you find clarity and peace of God. ❤️❤️
I think I'm very good channel to watch is mind shift with Brandon. He lays out just how absurd the Bible is and how absurd God is in the Bible according to the Bible and it is just irreconcilable he was a very devout Christian also and the more he read the more absurd it was and made no sense and made God so inconsistent
You started understanding eden on my birthday back in 2020. That was a turning point that I needed back then. But then you deleted your channel. This August I’ve been channeling and now all of a sudden you’re back online at the same time that I need to make sense of what’s going on. Somehow you and Jenna have been spirit guides and thank you for that. The Gemini ♊️ air signs forces the rest of us towards hard lessons and enlightenment
You're so welcome. I hope that you continue trusting your intuition and if that means listening to the Rainey's, well, we're here! ❤️
Wow, wow, wow. Subscribed. You're speaking to my heart, John.
I've been struggling for a decade with crippling depression, spiritual turmoil, and a sense of dread arising from being surrounded by people who won't stop expressing their hatreds. It has all been leading me ever closer to suicide.
A few weeks ago, a friend offered me a psychedelic drug called DMT, because he heard it helps some people with depression. That drug, one I would have treated like poison through most of my life, has suddenly exposed me to a sense of love and awe and connection I never imagined could be real. It was the most overwhelmingly spiritual experience I've ever enjoyed: a few minutes of mildly pleasant visions of interesting lights, then thirty minutes of the most profound sense of love. I sensed that love at first emanating from my friend who was helping me through the experience, and then love from all of creation, expressed to me in the plainest, most unmistakable language, speaking directly into the depth of my soul.
Seeing your pile of books on the table, now I realize why the creator has been trying to guide me to the writing of Alan Watts and Eckart Tolle. As soon as I quit typing, I'll begin my own quest for the truth of the universe.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and your love with us!
As a Christian, believing I had the power of a prophet, had the sheer audacity to curse everybody who wasn't Christian to "worship or die". If this happened to be true, many would have died. This was the cruelest curse in human history. Down with the Bible that advocates behavior such as my own! Do not encroach on people's spiritual freedom. I was no better than the witch hunter of medieval history. I am eternally sorry to the people I have hurt with such a curse, as I evilly tried to twist your free will to get you to worship the maniacal god, Jehovah who I now openly blaspheme! I wish worldly people well but Christians you are ferociously scared little girls who worship fear mongering and the threats of hell. I know because I was one and had I not been punished I'd still be walking the Earth devouring your free will and trying to persuade you to this horrendous orthodoxy. I blaspheme the holy spirit! Please stay out of churches! Do not be entrapped by this heinous religion! 😊
Is truth just a feeling or experience. One thing I’ve learned is that it’s hard to trust myself and loving oneself is the path to self destruction.
The pleasures of this world are only for a season. They aren't going to be with you in hell, remember that. Turn to Jesus and repent before that great and dreadful day of the Lord comes.
@@caleburias5596 May you find peace and contentment in Jesus, my friend!
Don't use a drug to cure ur depression; love Jesus and thats how.
Hi John,
I myself went in the opposite direction. I come from a Jewish background and was really interested in Jewish mysticism, spirit guides (which introduce themselves very often as extraterrestrial beings), reincarnation etc. until I met Yeshua HaMashiah. I must say that although I can really understand what you're talking about, I completely disagree about the benefits of such practices that I was involved in before I came to faith. I don't know how much you know about the subconscious mind, but the subconscious mind is a very deceptive part of our brain. And the reason is that the subconscious mind is formed during the early stages of our childhood. It's very tempting to think that memories of children claiming of past lives are actually their memories and not some other memories, which were implanted in those children's subconscious minds by some evil spirits. Spirit guides/grey aliens/Anunnaki are demons, masquerading as angels of light that try to deceive humanity by making it think that by following them and not God, the humankind will reach enlightenment using Chakras/ Sphirot (in Jewish mysticism) and other methods. Their tactics are the same since the days of Noah as portrayed in the book of Enoch. These are the spirits of the Nefilim and the offspring of the Fallen Angels which Jesus, Jude and James spoke about. You probably know what I'm talking about. Although these spirits may offer some "positive" energy, the source is impure and demonic. One can feel tranquility and a certain level of peace when being affected by some kind of vibration/energy level, but it's not the peace of God. It's often heard that even children of Christian parents experienced sleep paralysis because of the attack of these inter-dimensional beings/spirits. The children didn't believe in Christ in the time and as soon as they did, these phenomena stopped completely. And this is very interesting, indeed! It's better to rely on Scripture rather than on experiences. God bless you!
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Absolute gibberish. Christian’s use “demons” for everything.
Agreed ... If they are not for the lord they are not for me :)
Can verify. I’ve had hundreds of outer body experiences because of my condition. The things that I experienced and seen on that other side. There’s definitely a spiritual realm around us.
fr, demons have access to much more than us and if you open yourself up to their deception they always try to make it seem like you can be 'enlightened' or basically your own savior.
I'm sorry but a lot of what is said here doesn't make much logical sense. I took away a couple things listening to the video. 1. The 'Christianity' being described was purely based on, "love others, and spread love", etc. 2. A clear misunderstanding of the capability of demons. Full transparency, I'm Christian, I fail everyday, and I'm no scholar. I've been in the "Dark night of my soul".
Christianity, specifically in the west (primarily the U.S.) has been so perverted that most people in my experience forget that it's not just about "love". God it Love, absolutely, but what is love? Love is not unconditional acceptance, love is not 'being nice', etc. Sometimes love hurts, and especially if we don't want to hear it. But more than this, YHWH is HOLY! We forget this fact, and I don't know why, probably because of the perversion of the western mindset of faith. When Yeshua returns, he's not returning as a meek teacher, in love, no, he's returning as a King bearing the sword on a white horse! I could keep going but I think that gets the point across. Second, all the past life/historical facts that were brought up in hypnosis...do we really believe that demons wouldn't know facts like that? Demons have been around for millennia at a minimum, are vastly superior in intelligence, know every language on Earth, both dead and alive...and we don't think that a demon could speak through someone in hypnosis, giving facts out? That's not logical, especially if you understand the spiritual realm, and the Bible clearly explains their capabilities. New Age beliefs are essentially old beliefs, repackaged for the modern era to deceive people.
Great points all! I'm sorry, but I just can't listen to these deconstructionists spouting their "wisdom" as I know the real source of this "wisdom." You're God or you can be God sounded much better when the serpent said it, but it was false then & it's false now. I'm just waiting for one of these people to say they're horrible human beings but they know God isn't real. Instead, they all say they're good people so why would God send them to hell? Well, the Devil wants you to think that - he wants you to think you don't need God. Any philosophy/religion based on human goodness is WRONG and FALSE. We're sinners who deserve Hell - we need a savior.
You didn't adress some serious points that he has talked about. You know why? Because you cannot adress them. If you really think about reallity of hell and endless suffering and you know most of people are not Christians and will not be, but you actually do not care about the others. Next time you go for a shopping in a mall look at people faces, remember them, and imagine them in endless suffering. If you would believe in reality of this you should fell on the knees and start preaching gospel through the mall. Same for dear and wonderfull people you trully love and are not Christians. If Christians trully think and believe in reallity of hell then streets should be full of preachers. I say you are indoctrinated. I will sumarize what you believe in: "God created humans because of his glory and because of his love. He gave them free will. But if you do not love him back you will be tortured in hell or destroyed" Nice free will, nice good news - at the end satan will win because of majority of humans will be in hell. Where is Gods glory in that? And look at he NDE's accounts, 70% of them are postitive regarding unconditional love and unity - but then Christians say this is demonic, demons can look like angel of light. But on the other hand they fully ok to embrace 30% of them which are hellish experience. Why aren't hellish experiences also demonic?
Hey John, thank you for sharing your story. I went through a similar process in finding the truth. The truth led me to Jesus Christ. In my mid 20s I starting getting involved with New Age and different forms of meditation as you mentioned in your video. One day I was meditating and decided to meditate in a holy place instead of a bedroom. I went to a Catholic Church that was two minutes away from my apartment. I went into an adoration chapel and sat in front of a monstrance that contained the Holy Eucharist. This was the beginning of my conversion back into the Catholic Church. I experienced peace, revelation, and healing like never before. At first I sat in stillness, then I started praying and noticed Jesus was receptive to my prayers. About a month later, I went on a retreat and someone taught me the Rosary. I prayed three Rosaries in a row, then I had an experience that was so beautiful, child-like, innocent, and so pure. This was my home and I knew this was where I belonged. At this moment, I knew Mary was the mother of all the children in the world. Once I went Catholic and started abandoning Hinduism and Buddhism, I started experiencing attacks. I would pray the Rosary and these demonic spirits would be defeated. Jesus has narrowed it down for me. I experience the fullness of the Lord when I am in front of the Holy Eucharist praying, worshipping, or receiving Holy Communion. There is a lot to share, but you can message me if you want to know more about why I believe what I believe.
The Catholic Church is demonic and you are still being deceived. Bead counting saves no-one. You just need Jesus.
Hi John, I actually went from visiting psychic medium religiously, not a Christian, to becoming a Christian which is the last thing I would have thought would ever happen.
I had left my very weak Christian upbringing faith freshman year of highschool and my life got nothing but better so I never thought I would ever become a Christian again, it would have to be a miracle.
Years later when I was not a Christian a friend invited me to visit a psychic medium and I had no clue what it was but she was so lovely so I preceded with a tarot card reading. For the next year and a half I went to her for tarot card readings and just to hangout several times throughout a week. To allow myself to do this I believed the Bible was either a form of control or manipulated to be a form of control all I knew is Christianity didn't work for me so I was really open to this.
Over that time some rather extreme manifestations started happening. I would pray at times to my spirit guide but many times I would find myself praying to a God I didn't believe in for protection. But no way was I ever going to go back to becoming a Christian! One time I was scared so hard I concluded that I couldn't be my Uncle when things rattled around the room and she said the spirits think its funny you are scared of them... This is over a year into this many experiences at this point.
You see I had been taught that light and darkness coexist, she didn't say it at first but then she finally told me she worked with both. (More on this later)
I got to this point in life where life events started to change and I realized I was not in control as much as I thought I was. For the first time in my life I wanted God and his will as I figured if he truly had a good plan for me I actually want it. I prayed God if you are real can you show me who you are and what all this psychic stuff is? A day later I meet a pastor at random in a coffee shop and very rapidly God in the most incredible ways started pulling Christians into my life not in normal ways at all... I even had a random stranger come up to me and tell me to obey God and trust in Christ. there was a testimony of a former psychic medium God used where I had recognized specific witchcraft and this really helped clear this up as well. I was just blown away at all God has done leaving me with not an inch of doubt. (There's so much more).
I had came across 1 John 1:5 and it said God is light and in him there is no darkness at all..... literally left me speechless.
When I was going to a medium I didn't
Know who God was, his purpose for this world, his will for my life. When I became a Christian I knew God is good, man has fallen, and in love his will is redemption for mankind. Plenty of places throughout the Bible it says my will is mercy rather than sacrifice, even Jesus said it. So here is my question for you, do you know who God is? Do you know his will for your life? Do you know his purpose with this world? Because I had an unbelievably cloudy picture of God full of question marks when I was going to a psychic medium and it appears you have the same dilemma as you stated towards the end you just go off your instincts. Absolutely none of this is an attack, I genuinely would love to kindly and respectfully converse more.
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As a Christian, believing I had the power of a prophet, had the sheer audacity to curse everybody who wasn't Christian to "worship or die". If this happened to be true, many would have died. This was the cruelest curse in human history. Down with the Bible that advocates behavior such as my own! Do not encroach on people's spiritual freedom. I was no better than the witch hunter of medieval history. I am eternally sorry to the people I have hurt with such a curse, as I evilly tried to twist your free will to get you to worship the maniacal god, Jehovah who I now openly blaspheme! I wish worldly people well but Christians you are ferociously scared little girls who worship fear mongering and the threats of hell. I know because I was one and had I not been punished I'd still be walking the Earth devouring your free will and trying to persuade you to this horrendous orthodoxy. I blaspheme the holy spirit! Please stay out of churches! Do not be entrapped by this heinous religion! 😊
@@fatpigsflybears So you don't want people to become more like Jesus Christ? Is Kim Jong Un spiritually free and would I be encroach on his spiritual freedom to tell him God will one day judge the world in righteousness and he'll have to give an account? You can burn sage, palo, you can read tarot all you want, if you don't know the Lord Jesus Christ you are not free and you can not help others become free either because the freedom and hope is found in Jesus Christ. The love he had for us on the cross i ought to seek to show the world! Who can set me free? Nothing but the blood of Jesus! I speak from experience, when i was doing tarot card readings twice i got told I would have unplanned children and divorces...... that's the devil and praise the lord his plans are so much greater for my life than that!!!
Last point, you said you blaspheme Jehovah and the Holy Spirit, I don't go around blaspheming Buddha, Allah, Krishna ect. because they are not who i have to contend with upon my death, they are still buried exactly where they were originally. So you know who the Lord is and you know he can save you but you still decided to fight against the Holy spirit who only wants good for you? My friend i pray for you that God will do a supernatural work in your life to show you where you stand, his love for you, and the plan he has to redeem you for his glory!
@@cj6814 did you read my comment at all? I used to be Christian but renounced all faith so I know every argument you will make. I am very free thank you without jesus. It's Christians who are in bondage by fear, you have never been free a day in your life.
@@fatpigsflybears What freedom do you have I don't? I don't live in fear, this world is wicked to the core, transgender children, pedophilia, people with power and money getting away with murder wanting to be their own god untouchable by the law.....but thank God they have a fierce judgement and accounting to do one day. I simply found out the truth and had not an inch of doubt, it was Jesus Christ the mediator on my behalf to be redeemed, to be set free, to be forgiven, to be made acceptable for Heaven where I have a mansion I'm so unworthy of. If the requirements of Heaven is Jesus not only is that a really good requirement so Heaven isn't corrupt but I fall really short of that. Only Jesus could make it so I could be there and that's because of his love for me, he died for me and the sins I committed in this life, that's insane love. I've put weights on peoples shoulders they could not bear, I've put people down instead of helped people out, I have cared more about me and less about those in need, I cared about how others would think of me and tried to live up to their expectations never realizing not only there's a God but he has so much good work he wants to do in my life while I'm here. Your version of freedom is not freedom. People often times try to stand up for themselves and in a sinful manner, in an unbearable manner they become intolerable, ever meet someone oblivious to how much pain they cause someone else, maybe indifferent even? It's so hard to admit but we all are, we are not good, so freedom to do what again? It's only your perspective I live unfree in my head but I know just because I'm not living for myself and how I see fit like the rest of the world doesn't mean I'm free, I'm more free because I'm forced on the Lord and his plan for me on this earth... embrace that over everything else and it's no religion or practice, it's actual freedom.
Isn't that witchcraft, harm none, unless they seek to harm you? My witch was very nice but held judgement of what was right and wrong in her eyes and she knew a little more than the average. Here's freedom, Jesus said love your enemies pray for those who persecute you and bless those who curse you. The world wouldn't look at that as freedom because they are not in control but by walking in this extreme love and forgiveness and compassion for others I am in control because no matter what anyone does for me I have the love of the Father, I have Jesus Christ, I have a hope in Heaven and all my hope is not in this dying world. My freedom is not found in the situation but my focus is on the cross and how the other person needs the same hope, the great majority of people have resentment or unforgiveness to someone in their life, not that I don't struggle, and certainly not that I've always had good people and good situations, but because of God's work in my life I forgive all.... that's freedom.
I know Christians at times have came off as hypocrites, unloving, unfaithful to others and even the God they claim to serve, but I'm here to tell you freedom is found in Jesus Christ, no reason following an idols that God could destroy. I look back at my childhood and think back where are all the genuine Christians looking to make a stand, to stand up for me? But I know now as a follower of Jesus Christ I can stand up for those who hurt the very best i can and I can walk in freedom so I don't hurt others but help them be free.
Let me ask you this, you don't seem to care about the truth, you are not telling me you found the truth, you are simply saying you chose to walk away from Christianity and now you subjectively see yourself as free, if Christianity was true would you become a Christian?
Hi thank you for sharing, my testimony is the reverse of yours! I was into past lifes, spiritual practices like reiki, and i followed Alan watts and eckert tolle and other consciousness and meditative thinkers. I came to know The Lord through seeking The Truth about 4-5 years ago, and since then have had no desire for those things. God's Spirit and Word fills me up to do works for God's Will. I think its important to remember that leaning on our own understanding can lead us into us making God into our image instead of God restoring us back into His image, as we were created to Be with Him.
Personally I struggle also with the idea of "good" people going to hell for not believing. But when I think more about how there's nothing to lose by making God God, instead of making ourselves God(like satanic teachings teach). Paradoxically we have everything to gain by putting the One True God on the throne in our lives.
I think God is sovereign and all loving and He gives everyone the opportunity to accept Him even on their death bed, when hearing and accepting Christ in their hearts is the only thing they can do to receive peace and remission of sins, at their hour of death. I also used to believe in reincarnation, and I think the Bible may support a reincarnation or sorts(like when John came as in The Spirit of Elijah) , that is not the same as the common belief of Buddhist or Tibetan reincarnation. If we believe God is Spirit and Love and is Just with how he decides to judge souls or redeem them (if they so choose to be redeemed also), then when happens after we die is for God to know alone. And it is up to us to Love and worship God in Spirit and Truth. The Fear of God is the only good fear that leads to Wisdom and Eternal Infinite Love the rids us of all fear.(Proverbs 1,4,9 and 1 John 4:18) His Loving and Just Judgment is The Truth of How The Will and Laws of Creation point towards a Relationship with Him. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by believe in Him.
I'm praying that you'll find humility and The Lord's compassionate and patient Love, return to Him and lead others to The Way, The Truth, and The Life and True Light of The world. You can shine a Light(knowledge of Truth) on many in darkness(ignorance) but we can't do it alone. We have consciousness, but we are not consciousness we are much more... consciousness is a gift, We are not our own. We have free will, given in Love, Created for Love by God, who is Love. Let us choose Truth in Love, rather than love the self.
Wow.. not on board 💯 with everything but who is ever?? Haha . Absolutely, love your story. Im feeling compelled to share my story too. Very similar, but different. More people need to realize this is more normal than talked about. Im a deconstructed Christian too. The father son analogy is great.. i feel that way too. A man changed against his will, is if his opinion still. Good book recommendations too. Ive read some of those, but not "the journey of souls".. ill check that out. Glad youre finding your truth and sharing the journey. Much love and luck to u!!!
Very interesting and I look forward to hearing more. I had a very negative experience in the churches as a child. I am not knocking them, it was just me and my experience. I've also met a lady,very recently, that is "spiritual" as she put it, and not that I wasn't open to it, but I had a hard time understanding it. I think you might of given a better rendering of what she was trying to communicate with me. Like I said, looking forward to hearing more. Also, where does one find a Spiritual guide? I use to live in SD, Ca., but i am no longer there. Phoenix Az. area. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing and I am sorry to hear that you had a negative experience with church as a child. Ya, follow along with my channel and I will be coming out with videos explaining what I believe it. For spirit guides, in short, I believe that we all have guides who watch over us, communicate to us through thought form, inspirational ideas, dreams, other people, etc. That are guiding us on our path to spiritual ascension. Whether we realize it or not, they are guiding us. But if we are in-tune with them, listen, communicate with them, etc. They will show up. They do for me! To be clear, this happens often when I am writing in my journal, I sense my pen being hi-jacked. Also, when i specifically express gratitude for them, share that my heart and ears are open, and I speak on the most important topic that comes to mind, it seems as if my vocal chords are hi-jacked and they speak the truth that I need. I know that sounds funky, haha, but it's a cultivated practice for me.
Hi.your spiritual guide is The Holy Spirit.He will guide you in all truth and show you the way.its not about a church or Pastor bt your relationship with God.Proverbs 3vs5-6.
John you and I have incredibly similar stories. I went from Bible College Grad to Youth music ministry, to a megachurch worship leader. I asked all the same questions, and received the same answers and ended up where you are today. I have a closer relationship with the creator than I ever had in fear based religion. Today I am a free soul that wants nothing more than to love and connect with God and love other people and do as much good in the world as possible! You are exactly where you are supposed to be and your son is lucky to have you as a father! I have a wife and daughter who are my whole world as well and I'm thankful for the truth that I have been shown. Sending you and your family Love and Light! Keep up the great work my friend!
So it's all love & no justice? Well, that must be comforting to all your victims (and all of us have victims because all of us are sinners). Ugh, to think so highly of yourself must be comforting, but it's obviously false.
I loveddd this vid. That is coming from a senior student of psychology at Azusa Pacific University, (a chrisitian college)
looking forward to hearing from you. lets get our information shared and get a conversation going
I've never felt freedom as much as I have since I left religion. The thought of going back to any religion feels like a prison sentence. I lived with so much fear as a Christian. My story started when so many people from my church kept trying to break up my husband and me because we are interracial... in the 2000s, like what? 😂 This was the beginning, but I started considering how I might have treated non-Christians. If I'm a part of such a judgmental and controlling group, what's the likelihood that I'm not doing the same to others somehow? I never want to make someone feel the things I felt. That was enough to challenge the way I saw people. I went to two private schools, was in church leadership, etc., and I am so glad that I went through all that pain because if I didn't, I wouldn't have likely been challenged enough to look at it all as an "outsider."
I'm confused. Where in the bible or anywhere within God's teachings does he speak against interracial relationships or marriages? It's easy to use the flaws of man to serve as a justification to leave the faith. The folk that crucified Jesus were religious, church going fools, so what does that tell you?
So you left Christ because of stupid Christ followers? Does that make sense to you, truly?
Psilocybin or mushrooms changed my life from one of being a total loser to one of accomplishment. I had smoked marijuana in college and dropped out with no direction in life. One night I was in my best friend’s dorm room and we decided to try psilocybin. During the experience I saw how at one point in my life I wanted to be an important man like my father who was a physician, but how I began to fear failure. So, I decided if I didn’t try, I couldn’t be said to have actually failed. Dumb, right? But while tripping I saw if I didn’t try I would always fail. But if I tried real hard, even a dummy like me might succeed. So, I immediately, the next day, re-enrolled in college, got great grades and graduated. I became a Probation Officer and discovered I enjoyed going to Court and had a penchant for it. So I entered law school graduating cum laude, on the honor society. I got a job as a Prosecutor and developed procedures for successfully prosecuting child abuse cases and within six years of graduating law school was made a Judge. All because of that trip on psilocybin fifteen years earlier.
This was so incredible to listen to my story is so very similar. I dont know anyone personally thags experienced someyhing like this and it was great to hear someone articulate so well almost all the things i experienced over the last year. So crazy. I just got to where this didnt feel like a bad thing in the last few months and this video actually brought me some more peace about how everything went.
Oh I'm so glad you found this video and it gave you (what seems like) a sense of solidarity and peace! This video was made for people in situations similar to you. Blessings to you on your journey!
@@JohnRaineyChannel you definitely did me a real solid thanks so much for sharing your story! New sub 😊
Dude, I respect your transparency here. Just going for it. That's awesome.
Great timing.
I am also embarking on my spiritual (and watercolor) journey lol.. been a christian all my life and i had the same questions as u stated.
One great thing happened when a team wanted to pray for my son, he’s been sick and they said they were lead by the spirit to visit us.. they had an acoustic guitar and a beat box w them, and just started humming, singing “Adonai elohim” repeatedly.. in the most beautiful way you could ever imagine. I felt so weak, i tried to kept my eyes open, awake and sober but the spirit was just too powerful… i kept on massaging my legs bc they felt so weak that i ended up kneeling! it was the most powerful, beautiful experience that i ever had. It lasted for 30mins and they ended it by saying how much God loves me, its like they saw and interpreted what I felt. It was crazy.
I’ve also tried psilocybin, etc. in my younger years but this is by far the MOST powerful thing ever. No hallucinations, no paranoia, just pure, intense power.
I’ve been so hungry to experience God.. and Christianity and church was just not doing it for me recently. I also struggle with condemnation but all I could say is that He still remains true, His love is incomparable and most of all, He never fails to meet us where we are. :)
PS. I hope you could do a video the bible and its role in this journey.
Huge thanks to Jenna for sharing your channel! 🎨🪷🧘♀️
Thanks for sharing! Embarking on spiritual and watercolor journeys, hah, the Rainey's are here for you!!! ❤️
Jesus IS the truth. I really hope you find the only way through Christ. Ask Him for guidance, and trust in Him. God bless you.
Condemnation is not from God or Jesus. Condemnation, guilt and fear are the psychological tools that were used when the Roman Empire created a fear-based religion to control the poor serfs.
@@sanderdragsund7373 How do you know?
@@joshuaneal7552 If you truly seek Him, you will know with 100% certainty
Just curious if you’ve heard of Emotion Code. Would you consider it? I’m reading it now. I was led to this book randomly
I have not heard of it, but I'll check it out!
@@JohnRaineyChannelhey I really like your story! One thing that bothered me was that Jesus healed people a blindness and of real things but so far we just have faith healers either lying or having people say oh like my arthritis feels better but then there's deaf and blind in those churches with a sign language interpreter and those people are never ever getting healed ever! So you're saying nowhere in history a Christian has ever been able to heal an actual blind person it's always people that have a medical problem that can be handled with medicine and sometimes they get healed without praying at all and then sometimes they don't get healed when they do pray and it's just all random. But seriously why would no blind or deaf ever be healed? Why are Miracles always debatable and similar to coincidences but we just don't notice when the coincidences don't take place so when they do it seems miraculous
This really spoke to me, thank you for sharing, helps a lot to hear so many of my spiritual experiences and sufferings articulated better than I can express
Just subscribed. Im officially your 1000th subscriber. Congrats and God Bless ya!!!
I’ve been deconstructing for a few weeks. I must encourage everybody to try a 7 chakra meditation. You have to be patient with it. You may not be ready for all your chakras to align. My heart would be beat fast when I got up to the heart chakra. I wasnt quite ready for the awakening. But once you go all the way up to your crown chakra, you feel apart of the earth and universe. I can feel a crown spinning on my head while I’m in that state. You will feel divine. The hindus and Buddhist are on to something. Give it a try.
Edit: look up 7 chakra meditation. They are usually about 20 minutes. Then queue a healing meditation to play after. What this will do is get you to the crown chakra first. STAY in that state and keep going through the next video that plays. Do this for 30 minutes, and you will know there’s a God. I can’t confirm everybody will have the same experience, but if you’re in a state where your seeking God , I’m sure you’ll have a positive experience. Go unlock your crown.
Thanks for the recommendation! I will try this for my nightly meditation tonight!
Heck ya, thanks so much for sharing your story! I deconstructed about two years ago and the whole "what if I'm wrong/am I going to hell" stage was the worst. Watching decon channels, reflecting/processing my years at Christian college, therapy, and believe it or not studying Christianity even more, are what helped me overcome it. Now I get to just live and enjoy it ☺️. I'm glad that you've been on this journey for yourself and can't wait for more content!
Haha, that stage IS THE WORST! Absolutely terrifying! Glad to hear that you're enjoying your journey and life! ❤️❤️
@monica23maldonado, watching channels that focus solely on deconstruction is placing yourself in an echo chamber like the ones atheist claim about Christians. Be careful about your own unconscious bias and go where the evidence leads. I personally believe one can believe in Jesus or believe in chaos those are the options. By chaos I mean hope is gone, you don’t know where you or any of your family go when they die or if you’ll ever see them again. Love, hope, evil, none of it makes sense in a world guided by random mutations and natural selection which is chaos. Christianity has a lot of explanatory power.
You have delight in your antichristian narrative and new age agenda. I think you were either a poser or you never were a christian and this is all a lie. DO you have any proof you went to biola?Do you have any proof of your claims. @@JohnRaineyChannel
you tapped out when it got tough
Please don't join islam it's more than christiany now
Thank you for sharing your story John. I know from personal experience how difficult and uncomfortable it can be to be so sure of your beliefs and then find yourself adrift, not knowing what to believe, and then coming out the other side. For context, I'm a 64-year-old mom/grandmother who claimed Christianity in a Baptist church in 1967, when I was 7 years old. Back then we had little sheets of paper in the pew that asked if we wanted to proclaim our belief in Jesus. I filled in that paper and taped it to my bedroom door. It's too long a story to tell but like you, I was a Sunday School teacher, Homeschooling mom, sang in the choir, and worship group. And beyond that, I truly hungered for wisdom through Bible studies and personal devotions. But, in my 40s, through a series of events, I studied deeply into the history of my faith and the church (which of course means the Catholic Church) and found myself questioning everything and my church/pastor couldn't explain it. There's much more but this is getting long! So, nearly 20 years later, I feel mostly at ease in my new beliefs and a sense of freedom. However, the first decade or so, I felt a feeling of looking over my shoulder sometimes as if a bolt of lightning might "get" me. Having spent so many years in the church it took such a long time to feel the calm I have now. Many people have helped on my path, Timber Hawkeye who wrote "Faithfully Religionless" (boy, do I relate to that!), and Byron Katie author of "The Work" through her several books such as "I Need Your Love, I That True?". And finally, when I lost my Sister a few years ago, I started looking deeply into NDEs (near-death experiences).
Thanks, John for your thoughts here and book recommendations. I haven't seen too much more from you, and I hope you will continue. If you haven't checked into the YT channel "MythVision" it might be of interest.
Love God and love your neighbour as yourself, this is the greatest commandment. The possible existence of reincarnation and existence of the spirit world, the existence of different dogmas around christianity, doesn't stop one from trying to keep this commandment. The christian walk is complicated but keeping one's mind on this commandment i find is helpful.
Your illustration regarding love between your child and you is so powerful.
When i thought about something similar if my child were to be banished to hell, i would plead to go to hell for them as a substitute, that is when my belief in hell began to erode. It was a scene in The Shack. Prior to that i had read Blue Like Jazz by Donald Miller, and began sifting through Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsch. These began supporting the right to question my religious upbringing.
The Journey of Souls brought me round full circle. I can relate to the entire description of lives between lives. It so resonates with me. I heard same description of souls after life on earth before somewhere, and thought omg thats it!!
Then with further studying of biblical history and digging into history of religion going back to Mesopotamia and the Sumerians, up to modern day, i no longer believe the Bible is the inerrant, inspired Word of God, but rather that it is man's inspired word about God. Coming to that understanding and knowledge, what could a Christian stand on? For some it is belief alone, and that is good enough for them. It was not for me.
What i dont understand is why ppl are taught there is a hell? Why are religions so fear based? All my family are Christian Evangelical (basically) going back generations. Since i no longer call myself a Christian, they think im off my rocker. Hell is a significant focal point in how they speak about Jesus saving and about their faith. Nothing they have to say can impact me. I have heard it all. The belief in hell creates such division and judgement - unfortunately it is a Hallmark for most Christians. Their entire belief system seems to hinge on who is and isn't going to hell rather than living a life of radical love.
I just wonder what our souls have to say about the experience related to religion once they transition from this human life experience.
You capture my journey and world view perfectly.
I am in complete awe of your dedication to find your own truth and I really admire your journey and dedication to it. I believe as humans it’s our birthright to discover our own connection to God, Source, Universe in whatever path we connect with. I wasn’t raised with any sort of religious influence but always felt there was something greater than me - Universe, spirit, energy. And though I can’t relate to your Christian background, I so relate to your discovery and spirituality. I loved your story telling and I cannot wait to hear more from you!
Thank you so much for your kindness and support!! I'm glad there were bits you resonated with. I agree -- we do have this life to live and it's our right to discover truth wherever that may lead us. It's a wild journey, but I'm here for it! Thanks again and have a lovely day!! ❤️
So sorry to learn that you missed out on so much of Kingdom of God while doing apologetics and Bible schools..the sad reality of shallowness of cerebral/rational Christianity. It seems like you had ignored your inner life totally.
So despite the experiences and the feelings, wht do you do with the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ? Why did Jesus have to die on the cross?
You clearly say many times "belief in Christianity" and other phrases that show how wrong about Jesus Christ you have been since the beginning.. explore what Jesus has to say about these spiritual experiences and what He has to offer. You'll be blown away!
Wow man loved your story and what you went through. Thankyou so much for sharing your wisdom, it cleared a lot of things and opened my eye for clear picture. 💗
I can relate to your experience a lot. Like wow. Hearing your progression gives me a lot of peace
Just subscribed 🎉
Was in a Christian worldview for 47 years 😅 April this year after truly reading the Bible for the 2nd year running gave me so much to question 🙋♀️
Started reading 😊
‘Goodbye Jesus’
‘The God Delusion’
‘God is not great’
‘Godless’
I’m truly OUT now.
Reality has come and I’m finally free but it’s a journey. No guilt, no shame, no heaven, no hell.
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for sharing and for following along!! Peace and blessings!
Did you find yourself questioning truth after reading scripture? I had never read scripture through until 2018 and started questioning everything since…
@@Bebopeep yes it was in reading the Bible in the way my church had guided believing it to be the inerrant word. The shocking things God’s people did on God’s behalf and the way they were treated by God as well is appalling and immoral. Justifying this whilst worshipping a living God creates such cognitive dissonance that I had to know how the Bible was formed and who decided what went in it and why so much left out. Such manipulation throughout the centuries!
@@eyeswideopenaprilthanks for responding. I’m in the same place and seeking out truth hard right now.
@@Bebopeep your so welcome, this side looking back I’m actually astounded about what I believed
The persecution now , of believers now.. demonstrates to you … the battle is real
Bless your faith. Ric
Same exact story. Fear of the devil part especially. A course of miracles very helpful for me
I grew up in a Christian Baptist household, I got baptized at nine but as I got older I left the Religion and became a deist until I started thinking about the after life and I went on a quest for "God" now I'm a practitioner of vodoun and it has made my life better in so many ways, Blessed Be.
I too left Christianity thanks for sharing your story all the best to you and family love peace and lots of happiness
That is crazy, how can someone who seemed to be making all the theological Christian right moves, fall from grace and faith in Jesus. The answer being guided by religious authorities but not Jesus and the Holy Spirit. We can walk in a different direction and try to get to the same place in our spiritual walk. But the truth is even though there are many things we can do and places we can get to to spiritually grow in our Christian walk, only by experience and practical belief can we get to the place of Jesus. What i am saying is theology is a basis for truth but only severe practice leads one to a higher place and destination in the Christian walk, coupled with pure intentions.
Hey, thank you for your thoughts. I was fully aware of spirits, demons, "satan masquerading in light," and all of these things. I just became open minded to the idea that, ya know, these ideas may be here for a purpose. It's quite hard to communicate to a Christian because, and I mean no offense whatsoever, most things are so black/white to the Christian, there's always this clear explanation to things. I opened my tightly clenched fist on Christian theology and opened my mind, heart, and eyes to the idea that maybe I didn't have it 100% worked out correctly...
@@JohnRaineyChannel It depends on the information you had in your tightly clenched fist. Christianity is growth but that growth depends on personal ability and the willingness to explore and develop the Christian mindset. It seems that demons succeeded in their task to bring discouragement to you. They work to stay in the background and cause people to blame everything on God. Its genius, because a person will hate God and stopping believing in Jesus effortlessly, but the demons have freedom to attack and bring major doubt to you without you acknowledging and fighting against their bad influence.
And they got him
Hey John. Your story resonates so much with my own. I left my Christian faith on a mission trip to Peru, up in the Andes mountains. I found my spiritual footing after using psychedelics as well. I have a son whom I adore and who is the best argument against Yahweh I've yet encountered. My path led me to something similar to yogic Kashmir Shaivism in the Sanatana Dharma (Hindu) tradition. At the end of the day, the path doesn't matter. They all lead back to the One Living God... a consuming fire that burns up all dogmas and creeds and theologies in Its ineffable Brilliance.
I salute your journey, thank you for sharing it with us.
Thank you for sharing! Sounds like quite the journey you're on as well! Peace and blessings!
so stupid Jesus said there is only one way
@@johnpinckney7269 Really appreciated your witness to the gospel of Jesus when you called my beliefs stupid. Can't say I'm surprised, though I'm often disappointed.
@@hawktalk639 leave me out, what did jesus say? i am not important.
@@johnpinckney7269 Your opinion is certainly not important. Or helpful.
What you said about your son hypothetically saying ‘I love you but I’m not sure if I’m doing this right...’ really resonates with me.
I appreciate you for being so brave to come on here despite what people may feel. For the past couple of years I have been trying to deconstruct & I continue to be paralyzed by the fear that I am the “very elect who’s been deceived” I go through a dark knight of my soul every other week it feels & I’m so tired of being afraid to live. Thank you for your courage. I pray I get to this point soon.
I hear you and this video is made for you. I was hoping to provide peace and solidarity to those going through similar experiences. I have gotten a range of comments, that was expected, but this is the type of comment that shows me the video is worth it. Just to let you know you're not alone. This life is wild. There are so many different beliefs out there and it is crippling to "find" the right one with the limited time that we have. I have found peace by looking deep within, I believe you can too. Nothing but love!
Maybe just avoid the paganism?
@@JohnRaineyChannelBlind faith in invisible people you blindly trust with your life and spirit is not peaceful. You're walking off a cliff and taking others with you.
@nursekyra759 I relate to your comment on so many levels
I'm with you John. I'm a former preacher's daughter. I say former because my dad passed away years ago, but even before his death...things never sit right with me, (especially the HELL doctrine) so as I grew older, I did my own research..after reading a lot of material and digging deep...I mean deep which included, but not JUST the "Epic Tale of Gilgamesh, " (which was the first book EVER written) only to find that the Bible was taken from many different books written BEFORE the Bible was put together. "The Epic Tale of Gilgamesh," which I said was written wayyy BEFORE the Bible has stricking similarities to the Bible. Yes, the flood story, etc., was ONE thing among many others that led me to leave religion. Not only because of the Epic Tale of Gilgamesh, but LOTS of research. I still believe in a creator, but I no longer put myself in a religious "box" full of man's dogma. Peace and Love to you John. ❤❤❤
I felt the need to come back and add: you probably already know this, but many will leave comments telling you you're wrong and act as if deconstructing our faith was easy because it was so embedded in our brains. They also think we've somehow "missed" something in the Bible.. Stay the course John and keep bringing us these wonderful videos.
I do not do what to me is organized religion….I just can’t….I’m like u i believe in a creator….strongly….but I cannot mesh with religion…I tried real hard at one time in my life….but I finally realized it wasn’t right for me…near death experiences also taught me alot
The Bible is full of wisdom that will tell us to leave these harlot houses people mistakenly refer to as a church. These places are idols temples and we are instructed to come OUT of them. Those places are the synagogues of Satan. Thousands of divided denominations and sects that oppose each other and follow men of reprobate minds. The scriptures are all you need to feel very comfortable with leaving these temples made with hands.
Pastors daughter here too 🤗
Sorry for the loss of your father.
Learning about The Epic Tale of Gilgamesh made you leave Jesus? I'm confused why? If anything, that should have strengthened your faith in the veracity of the Bible! The authors of the Bible had supreme knowledge of events spanning back thousands of years prior, which are verified by documents like the one you mentioned. Hallelujah!
@ArtKrishnamurti // read my comment again. I didn't say I didn't believe in a creator, but one I firmly believe is that MAN wrote the Bible. With the re-translating over and over and then the Church throwing books completely out that didn't fit their agenda, let alone the contradictions...I can't trust it. Let me know if you understand my point because I didn't say what you said I said. Until then, have a great day.
This was so interesting. It sounds like you were just seeking the truth and the truth set you free! Kudos to you!
Critical thinking is most important! The thought you came to "if this is true, I don't know what is going on" pretty much sums up the quest for truth. It also starts the deconstruction of one's indoctrination ...........well done
Love hearing your journey, ive been on a similar one, your non-christianity is more closer to the essence of following christ than a lot of brands of christianity imho 😊
Thanks for sharing, glad you enjoyed! Ya I don't want to throw any shade or judgment at Christians or the system altogether, but I do think people get stuck in the minutia of doctrines and to-do's etc. and forget the essence of just loving God and loving others no matter what. That has remained completely unchanged for me.
One who is not a Born Again is in darkness and is dead in his sins and is not more like anything but an eternally condemned person.
Never compare a Born Again believer in Jesus Christ with an unbeliever, they are a universe apart, absolutely no comparison.
There are false teachings and actions and the New Testament Epistles specifically addressing the Body of Christ under grace not law is in clear language and plain context for the child of God. One is not to decide whether one is a "Christian" or not based on how one "feels", or determine doctrine based on human behavior, that would be incompetence.
You forget the words of Christ buddy, "Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
If John (the OP) is doing this in actuality he is fulfilling the law and the prophets, just because he doesn't use the same language as you, it does not mean that he is lost. Be cautious of how quickly and harshly you judge the intentions of other peoples hearts, so many of Christ's teaching and parabables warn of the exact thing you are doing here.@@Rightlydividing-wx1xb
Brother keep the Church and religion aside try Jesus as a personal one
I come from from Hindu religion and Tasted Jesus Love
I tried and tested Jesus and he is the life Giver...Keep Jesus as centre not church and religion
👍 Jesus is a living God, a living person. All sins are forgiven. But people are spiritually dead. This death was lost in Adam.
Interesting! A "personal relationship" with a god who is all about "worship me or face eternal punishment"? Taste that LOVE! Nothing says love like eternal torture. But your butt will be safe in the arms of the monster who says he won't hurt you, so that's what matters.
I studied eastern religions for years,until I heard a voice said: Saint John 3:16 in my sleep and the voice woke me up and I checked the Bible.
If anyone wants to know God , they should seek Him himself/herself, believe in second hand knowledge, someone else book , someone else saying could be a big mistake.
Walking with God is difficult, we need to plan our daily activities, I have been walking with God for over 14 years, very difficult but there’s no better option ❤
@rboland2173 Who are you to call God a monster your just a normal human who will face God on Judgment day you made the choice not to follow God not him We were not created to go to hell nor is it God's will for us to go there it's your choice God won't force you to choose him. You have to choices in life you can choose God as your Father or Saton the one you choose is the one you choose to spend eternity with at the end of the day its all about choices and God will not force you to choose him.
Great video John! Thank you for sharing your journey! I have a non-hypothetical Catholic lady in my family, and we love each other very much even though I'm an atheist. She might be a heretic according to other Catholics, even though she gave the Church a ridiculous amount of her own time and money.
I promise you'll eventually come back. You emit the same vibe like millions of new age people and frankly I can't believe how much you dabbled in these things while you were Christian. It's pointless to argue considering your state. You want the secrets of universe. Oh really? Try eating from the tree then. Cos why not. "Open minded" expression is meaningless. Rebellion of your wife got you on board too. God bless you both and welcome back from this lost way, rather sooner than later. I'm on my vacation, and i intensively listened to a bunch of religious podcasts and just stumbled upon your testimony. I'm shocked. So many red flags and so many points show just how naive you were to go down this way. But don't despair. God will grow you through this experience and use it for good at the end. Good bless you and your family. Can't help but to think that all of these ridiculous ideas was brought by your wife into the family. I don't know why, but the whole of your testimony seem to be strongly influenced by your wife dabbling in these things too. So many eastern practices, occult stuff, mind altering states, ... bizarre that you two didn't see what is going on. Good luck.
Have a great vacation! ❤️
@@JohnRaineyChannel Thanks!
Yup, happens to people brought up in a church their whole lives. Once things hit the fan they will come back. He’s lived a happy life with God, he’s going to experience life and life can be harsh.
YES! I was a new ager for years. It is so obvious it is vile lies when Jesus leads you out but when you are in the thick of it, living and breathing it, teaching it all feels amazing and positive. Such lies of the demonic realm to keep you away from the one true Saviour, Jesus. SO RELIEVED I am walking with the Lord not going my own dumb way.
I also deconstructed my faith much like you and never foresaw myself ever returning to God, but then He drew me back to Him. It started with small deceptions that lead to large deceptions leading up to the point where I thought I was better than the Christian God. However, it was my own pride and selfishness that lead me to this thinking. And I'm going to tell you I can see a lot of myself in the things you are talking about. I know you think that you're going to help people by telling them this story, but actually you are going to lead a lot of good well meaning people astray and strengthen those who wish to lead us astray in this way.
If you deconstructed your "faith", then you didn't do a very good job and I guess it was more of a temper tantrum as you returned.
A human has never existed that was as evil as the God of Abraham, that evil wrath has never been matched which is proof we were not created in his image. Satan kills not one person in the Bible. Jesus tells us in John that we are not to become Christians or he will not know us. Sol of Tarsus was a lying and Jesus warned the apostles not to believe him. Jesus proves your religion is wrong. “Only the Father”
I think that those who are led astray probably never really knew or belonged to Jesus in the first place
@@lyndaranson1728 You're the typical narcissistic tool that keeps perpetuating fairy tales! No one can argue with you're own bubble of protection you create.
@@lyndaranson1728 I definitely feel that too myself. I know I accepted Jesus as my savior as a child, but it was as though the seed had been sown among the rocky soil and the thorns when I look at it in hindsight.
If you liked that book, check out many lives many masters. My awakening really started with similar questions and then that book… ❤
thank you for this video. I am a preacher's daughter that left the church. Unfortunately, I left due to many years of emotional/ psychological abuse from my parents and other members of the church and indoctrinated community. Although I know that this specific group of Christians were not representative of the religion as a whole, and that what they were doing was not of god, I still had a lot of trauma around religion. In many ways, I am still recovering from that trauma. I began to do my own research on Christianity, even from a young age, I felt like something was missing. I was that kid in Sunday school that would ask questions, and I would get punished often for my inquiries. for a very long time, I felt guilty for leaving Christianity, and even fearful that I made the wrong decision for my eternity, even though the spiritual path I am on now sounds very similar to what you have shared in your video. I even became a hypnotherapist and I do past life regressions, and in my personal regressions it has brought me so much healing, and when I work with someone else, I also experience healing.
My critique/response:
1. Catholic woman: Catholics DO believe in salvation through trust in the historical Jesus. I don’t think the Bible (or Protestant theology) excludes devout Catholics from being saved because of theological differences, as long as at the core of it all they are still trusting in Christ.
2. Mormons do NOT believe in the historical Jesus. They believe in a fictitious character created by Joseph Smith. They are millions of miles apart from the theology commonly shared by Protestants and Catholics.
3. I’m equally as disturbed by the numbers of people that myself as a Christian have to logically assume are going to hell based off of biblical teaching and the few number of people who are Christians. My response however is not to leave the faith, but to step deeper into faith in Christ and go out to use my life for preaching the gospel. I’ve found my faith growing through this practice of acting on my convictions. I’m still baffled by hell though!
4. I’m surprised you never had any substantial teaching on hell throughout the majority of your life as a Christian. I think this is symbolic of the shallowness of many church’s teaching and pastoral responsibility to teach all of scripture.
5. Consulting mediums is called witchcraft in scripture. I think it’s very possible have “positive” experiences in witchcraft while still being led astray from truth and true life. “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death” - Prov 14:12. How would the way seem “right” if there was no positive subjective experience? But in end it leads to death.
6. Your search for “truth”. Where do we get our source of truth? God must exist for their to be any objective truth. How do we identify who God is and what his nature is… how we can relate to him… etc? Historical truth, scientific truth, moral truth, prophetic truth etc. The Bible fulfills these criteria of truth far more accurately than new age spiritualism… doctrine of hell aside.
7. There is no objective evidence of reincarnation. Fascinating experience to listen to nonetheless.
8. Loving your son story: beautiful! I love to hear how strong you experience that love and can relate that to God. However, back to the source of truth- how do we know truth about God? We need evidence (fulfilled prophecy, historical accuracy, scientific support, etc). Comparing God to an earthly father only goes so far. The God of the Bible is - Holy. Holy, holy, holy. We cannot understand his judgement aside from this. He is purer than pure. More innocent than innocence itself. Sin separates from him. And yes he does forgive and desire for all to know him! But there is real sin and evil in this world- he will judge murderers, rapists, extortioners, etc. Although we might be seemingly “good” people, we still have sin!
Lastly!! I appreciate this video because I can relate to the hell piece… and I’m happy that you feel in a peaceful place. However I just think there’s so much space for all of these conversations and struggles while remaining a disciple of Christ.
The search for truth IS the search for Christ. He is the Bread of Life. The Light of the World. Eternally conscious, eternally aware, eternally loving- Father, Son, and Spirit.
Respect bro!
Lastly lastly, you are living in a serious lala land 😮
1. it wasnt the hypothetical catholic... it was the idea that there are so many different theologies. Hes also not making an argument, it was just something that started a thought process. This is a huge thing that really separates christians from non-believers. non-believers can wrestle with an idea and follow where the idea takes them openly instead of thinking that it must conform with their god-belief.
2. who cares what mormons think. In the end, christianity and mormonism arnt great descriptions of history, biology, truth etc... they are just separated by some 100s of years.
3. Hell is not a real place. there isnt much biblical evidence for it and certainly isnt any real evidence for it. Plus, if it existed then god is a sadist.
4. meh. fallacy.
5. literally everything leads to death. do drugs!
6. Maybe "A God" must exist (theres arguments that one doesnt need to exist) but it probably isnt the christian god. shrug.
7. There is no objective evidence of a lot of christian miracles too!
8. youtube is a great place to watch videos on each and every prophecy being debunked. they dont even take much scrutiny. theres also a lot of contradictions in the "perfect" bible.
@@jamesSwhite what do you mean by that?
@@chottstuffwhat’s the best contradiction
@@chottstuff
Hey, there’s plenty of biblical evidence for the existence of hell. Here’s on very clear verse, a quotation of Jesus himself.
Matthew 10:28
And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
It is impossible to really know Christ and then abandon Him. It is very possible to fill your mind with theology and your time with religious activity, only to walk away from that. Hebrews warns quite strongly about that very possibility.
You just have to take me at my word since no one can know anyone else's heart other than their own... I was extremely genuine in my relationship with Jesus, both in public and private life and devotion. I expected the response that I was never a Christian to begin with, but, if you knew me personally and could peek into my heart, I think you'd feel different. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Have a lovely day.
@@JohnRaineyChannel perhaps I may direct you to John 6, where a large number of Christ's disciples left off following Him after some very difficult teaching. Note the response of Peter - "Where will we go? In the process of departing from Christ, have you found the answer to life after death? The mystery of life itself, its origin and purpose? Concerning the universe, the order and evident design speaks for itself - if it wasn't the triune God of the Bible that put it all together, then what or Who did? Where did we come from and why are we, reasonable and logical creatures, here? When one walks away from the most reasonable, self-evident system of truth that transformed the world, it should be for something better, but usually it is not. Usually it is to be free from the moral bonds placed upon the person by their Creator (Psalm 2) that the conscience might be soothed while it departs to seek its own way. I hope you someday find your way back to the truth that is in Christ alone, for it is He you have rejected, not just a system of religion.
I just honestly do not see why an all-powerful, all-loving Creator God is only conceivable from within the Christian Biblical worldview alone. I am a theist, I believe in God who created all things. I have come to believe that the Bible is full of truths, but honestly believe the Biblical writers were likely mistaken in certain doctrinal areas. And, off my God-given intuition, I can look at the especially horrific passages like Numbers 31 or the doctrine of eternal Hell as completely morally unintelligible and cannot possibly be from an all-loving God. And I know here is usually where the Christian response is - yes, God is all-loving but also just. I believe in justice, yes! If that's a conversation you'd like to have... I believe in justice after death, in a karmic system that I believe to be way more fair than an eternal hell that damns a finite being into an infinite punishment.
Very weak. This "no true scotsman" argument is silly from the beginning. If you change your mind about the beliefs I hold, you must not have believed. So that's a nice closed circle and you don't really have to think anymore, pointing out how ridiculous it is.
@@Tom-fo5ce then you must explain the passages which claim God finishes the work He begins, (Philippians 1, Romans 8), men may have some enlightening by the Holy Spirit and then fall away (Hebrews), and that all that are in Christ cannot be removed John). Your argument has no bearing whatsoever unless it has its basis in Scripture, and Scripture says otherwise.
Done!!! That’s where I am! No more searching. I’m trusting god to show me.
Lemuria was a continent proposed in 1864 by zoologist Philip Sclater, theorized to have sunk beneath the Indian Ocean, later appropriated by occultists in supposed accounts of human origins. The theory was discredited with the discovery of plate tectonics and continental drift in the 20th century.
Just in case anyone thought it was a thing.
I find your story interesting and similar to mine. It’s not surprisingly how those so called “Christians” judge others and those that are searching and asking questions. Reading some of these comments on how a person is deceived by the Satan and the devil is probably the most unchristian thing to do. Throwing bible verses and believing that that calling you were never saved and never had a relationship is the most unChristlike thing that Jesus would oppose. Thank you for sharing your experience and wish the best on your spiritual path of discovery.
After reading scripture myself I started questioning if there are actually any true Christians out there?!! Bc everyone I knew, including myself seemed like a bunch of Pharisees! But if one is known by their works or deeds then I’m thinking there are a lot of atheists who are actually the ones acting like “Christians” according to scripture.
What if they are speaking truth in love and you just don't like what you hear? Many get angry when their way of living is not affirmed as it goes against God's will for humanity.
That thing you said about loving your son and how God is capable of loving us more, it really touched my heart. Thank you for sharing that ❤ I’ll always remember this story.
I'm currently studying Kabbalah, so I'm not hostile to esoteric interpretations and explanations for accounts of "reincarnation" experiences. But the idea that an individual soul has had another identity, is not the only explanation for a person's ability to "remember" events from the life of a person who has lived (and died) at some time in the past. All of our lives are ultimately linked in any case, even if no "soul" has ever actually "reincarnated". So, I don't find the ability to "recall" "past life" information particularly surprising or remarkable at all.
And none of that constitutes a refutation of any Christian doctrines like "bodily resurrection". I do intend, however, to purchase a copy of David Bentley Hart's book. Thank you for listing it.
JPB
I too left Christianity and embraced spirituality . Think I watched your apologetic CZcams channel when I was a Christian ! Wow here we are! 🎉
Demons are spiritual too. Only Jesus is the truth. You have made an error, repent and return before your life runs out. Don't be where I was into new age for years, totally deceived all because it felt good. When I left it all behind to have a relationship with Jesus all those helpful "angels" soon turned on me.
Loved this. I appreciate your journey as I’m on my own similar one. I totally agree about being open minded.
Faith is a gift, a given. It’s not something we will have only if we “try hard”. “For I am not ashamed of this Good News about Christ. It is the power of God at work, saving everyone who believes-the Jew first and also the Gentile. This Good News tells us how God makes us right in his sight. This is accomplished from start to finish by faith. As the Scriptures say, “It is through faith that a righteous person has life.” Romans 1:16-17 NLT
I never heard about the gospel until I was 19, thanks to missionaries like you once were. Today I’m 40, and my life completely changed because of the gift of faith in Christ’s salvation. I hope you’ll dig deeper into the scripture and I pray that you’ll find the true God and His way. ❤
Thanks for watching and sharing! ❤️
When you say, "Faith is a gift," you're not defining faith or given any information. "A banana is a gift."
"The sky is a gift."
"This comment is a gift."
It's a definition.
A definition of faith would be something like this: pretending to know something I cannot actually know.
So the scripture you quoted would read, "It is through _pretending to know things they cannot possibily know_ that a righterous person has life."
If you object to this definition, then tell me, if you have evidence and facts, say, like knowing the sun doesn't revolve around the earth (like the Bible teaches and the church murdered people over) do you use faith? Is it by faith you know you live in a heliocentric solar system or faith?
It's knowledge that leads to your ability to know things, not faith. Faith is a bad epistomology (you know this is true since you disagree with every faithful person on the planet except those you agree with due to the fact their faith alings with yours). If you're evangelical, you KNOW Mormons are wrong, just like Mormans know, via "faith" that you're wrong.
If you use faith as an epistomolgy, how do you say the Hindus, Mormons, and Muslims have it wrong? You cannot logically say, "Oh, when brown people use faith, they're wrong, but when white people in Kanas or Nebraska use faith, they get it right."
@@michaelsbeverly You responded to this person's comment and jumped to make it racial, assuming that she was a white person from "Kansas or Nebraska" and that her confidence in the Christian faith is due to her assumption of superiority. That's the implication of your comment. However it appears that the person you responded to is in fact Chinese. Perhaps Korean, idk, but its clear from her profile she is not a Nebraskan. Christianity is the Truth for all people, all over the world, for all time, to be reconciled to God and saved from our sins.
@@tuckerchisholm1005 Not, I wasn't assuming anything about the person, just pointing out that historically, Christianity was comprised of westerners.
That said, yes, Christians suppose they're superior to everyone else, I mean, just listen to them...lol
Jews are wrong.
Muslims are wrong.
Traditional Asians are wrong.
Traditional Africans are wrong.
Hindus are wrong.
Everyone is wrong but the Christians.
It is, by definition, bigotry.
I will never understand people leaving Christianity due to PEOPLE who misrepresent the values of it. Like, the Bible calls people sinful and fallen creatures for a reason.. It's so very easy to tell who's a real Christian and a lukewarm Christian. If you want the ideology of Christianity, read the Bible... Really sucks that people can get put off by others.
congratulations my brother i my self was a pastor but have come to have a relationship with natur n have inner peace with my ancestors true love for my self witch is apart of nature
Thank you for sharing your Journey.
Stepping out of Christianity can be hard if that is all you have known. But one thing I have learned from my journey, is that religion shapes the perspective we have of the Sovereign Source, and that is what we translate as belief.
I share the same views of the concept of hell, though slightly different. But thank you for sharing this.
I always tell people about my views... that I am happy to be wrong, and I am happy to get to the afterlife and find out
I have subscribed and I have a lot of great hope for your journey. The peace you have found, will not go away.
I’m almost in tears hearing someone else verbalize all the questions and realizations that I’ve come to over the last few years…but fear verbalizing myself because I don’t want to have my husband think I’m crazy. 😂 I’m excited to check out the recommended books. Hopefully Audible or Chirp have them because I’m too busy with art and jewelry to find time to read. So glad I followed Jenna’s link because its wonderful to feel like I have “permission” to explore more for myself. I’ll be finishing your video after work and tuning into your channel going forward. Your authenticity is a breath of fresh air.❤
Thanks for your thoughtful response! I appreciate you. Embarking on a new spiritual journey is especially difficult when marriage and parenting is involved... I am hoping all the best for you and yours!
I was also a Christian and Pastors wife. I've completely deconstructed my beliefs and found the truth. So much peace has come
Me too 🫶🏼
Thanks for sharing! I'm so glad you found peace.
Pastor’s daughter here 🙋♀️
That The Rulers of this world made up Sky Faries. YWH is one of those YWH 1 2 3. He is made up and OMNI EVIL.
The BABY, PREGNANT WOMAN, ANIMAL GENOCIDER
COMAMNDS SLAVERY of children, woman, men INNOCENT CHILDREN
That is but little
His Book of Plagiarism, Contradictions, False Promises
what more do you need. There IS much, more, much
find christendumb2 he can show you
and mindshift
what do any of you think about that YWH BARBIE QUES any Girl who daddy serves YWH and not INNOCENT What EVIL and yet woman Follow this PSYCHO.
YHWH IS IMMUTABLE so all this applies now.
I went through your story in reverse.
I was born Catholic but 'the people' turned me away from the church.
So went through many years of learning myself, spiritual research, and trying to live my best life.
Seeing all of the evil things going on in the world had me shaking my head. My life was in shambles but I had gotten used to it. I felt peace... but I was really just 'not dealing with my issues'.
I watched a video on all of the Biblical stuff associated with the eclipse I rolled my eyes. Then every other video was something that hit me in my gut.
I took a good hard look at my life and took all of my problems and left them at God's feet. My anxiety went away, I didn't even know I had it until it went away and peace came over me.
I confessed my sins to God out loud, asked to restore His Grace upon me, I asked for the Wisdom to discern His will, and the courage to stand firm in Faith against the schemes of the enemy.
I saw a video by Girls gone Bible and learned that I need to declare my healing.
Work and I started to fight about things... I prayed for a job where I was left alone to do my work, my car broke down so I wanted a company vehicle, but I didn't want to be a supervisor or manager, I just wanted to do my job and come home.
I got two job offers that filled those criteria the next day. One was a temp job, that paid $100 for 3.5 hours of sitting at a gate.
The second job, I have an interview Monday morning for a full time position. I have been praying almost every morning and trying to let God take care of everything.
God bless you brother... I hope everything works out for you better than it did for me.
I'm a 62 year old, life-long Christian. My shift started when my husband left me 15 years ago. I felt that God took my Life Tree and shook it and all the beliefs that were not genuine started falling off my tree. Fast forward a few years ... i did 2 Psylicibin journeys that changed my life forever. I have completely left the church, and have such an awareness that Love is everywhere, and is all that matters. I experience such love for people that i would previously have felt sorry for as they were going to hell, as they followed a different religion, or no religion. I am so grateful for where i am now! Thank you for sharing your story. My advice, listen to the voice inside yourself. Its not the devil or demons. It is the truth. Love y'all!
Hey Debbie, that's an interesting journey.
As a reader of your story, it seems you blamed God in some way for your marriage breakdown?
I don't understand why you would walk away from Jesus at that point?
My wife left me afterc25cyears of marriage and the opposite happened to me. What I lost in my relationship with her, I gained in my relationship with Jesus, being able to spend much longer in prayer and reading the Bible each day.
I have found an incredible peace through that and a strength, and even more certainty that Jesus is God. In fact I have just come back from a healing mission where we saw 2 people who were pretty much blind recover their sight, someone's hearing restored, people cured of chronic pain, people able to walk who couldn't before all through Jesus's healing, not my power or will.
My question Ms to you are
1) do you really believe that if you walk away from the Bible that you still have truth? The truth you walk in is not going to be the same truth for everyone so who is right?
2) As people walk away from Jesus they tend to become more selfish, more materialistic, and have less fear of God I.e having an affair or multiple sexual partners etc has no consequences. How does this demonstrate the love you claim people find when living without Jesus?
I am sorry your husband broke your heart Debbie 😢
When we read the book of Job we see God allowing Satan to test our endurance and fidelity. WILL we stand by God when everything around us falls apart ..... or will we leave. That is ..... throughout the Bible ..... described as THE TEST we are going through while here on earth ✝ I think everyone in the world agrees that it doesn't take long on this earth before we come to the conclusion that this is a fight ..... a trial ..... a test ✝
@@blindcuckoo6680 ...... ✝ THANK YOU for your strengthening Testimony 🙏
I was thinking if it woud be possible for you to create a username that glorifies God? Just a thought 🙏 And a prayer 🙏 God bless you 🙏✝
@@Vikingshop Right, because "SOS - NET" or "Vikingshop" are super Christian usernames.
People are out here trying to find answers because they're being put through hell, or on the way there, and you're here talking about usernames.
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Keep in mind your carnal love is not God's love. Your selfish ambitions and disobedience hatred towards God and you need to repent. Jesus says to those who heard the truth and turn away from it, their condemnation is worse. Repent sinner!
Thank you for sharing your story. So glad you have found peace and spirit. Much love
Thanks so much! ❤️❤️
This video is very inspiring. I’m currently at a peculiar point in my life. Having been a Christian my entire life, I was raised Catholic and then converted to Evangelical at 19. I grew within the church, eventually becoming a preacher and a leader for more than 10 years. Like you, I always struggled with the concept of hell and never supported attacking others for their beliefs, or lack thereof.
After three years of praying for clarity and witnessing behaviors from church leaders that didn’t align with Christian values, I decided to leave the church and "the faith". That was seven years ago, and since then, I have felt an immense sense of relief-no shame, guilt, or fear.
However, I am still searching for my truth and often battle with concerns about what others think of me for leaving the church after being a preacher. These thoughts are a constant struggle and I consider it a religious trauma, but despite this, I am happier than I have ever been. I continue to work on constructing my own truth in this religious world.
If there is any book or resource you recommend to ease this path, I would greatly appreciate it.
I've always struggled with the concept that no faith healers ever really heal anyone like the deaf and blind who are attendees at the church that that person is healing at supposedly and they never get healed there's never any actual documentation usually when you follow up on it it was fake or the person just had adrenaline and walked and then still has bad arthritis or ended up dying from the cancer that they thought they were healed from. Jesus was healing blind and it's not just symbolic blind he was healing actual blind and he said that we'd be able to do that kind of stuff and no one ever has ever ever it's just BS
The Bible
You seem like a very cool guy! As a former Catholic who left Christianity and became an atheist at the age of 35 (I'm 44 now), I really feel what you are saying.
However, I am not spiritual at all. Maybe I should try these mushrooms to discover something new? 😄Greetz from Poland and have a wonderful life!
It depends on how you define "spiritual". If we are talking about literal transcendent beings, then yeah, I wouldn't use that word for myself. But if defined differently, which I think can be done, it is fine.
Thank you for the courage to sharing your story and use your gifts to continue to help others along your life path. Let the haters fuel your passion for life and truth. 👍
11:12 How do you go from being a pastor or pastor's wife to channeling?? There is a big chunk of the story missing from right before the channeling part.
I don't know if I mentioned, but my wife had been privately experiencing doubt for a while, in terms of Christianity and whether or not the resurrection was a historical event. We had some conversations about it, they were difficult, but she was in her own journey and I gave her the space to do that. She is her own person, I'm not the lord over her. I know the scripture that says the man is to lead the household, yes, but we operate differently and I allow her space to figure things out as she needs to... that's maybe a little window into what led up to that.
@@JohnRaineyChannel Oops! I didn't expect to get the host's attention! I sort of figured I was speaking into the void. I haven't had a chance to finish the video so you might have mentioned her journey later in the video. I have to say this first - I've been in video and film for a lot of years and I was really drawn in from the first few seconds. You have a face/voice/manor that is very engaging. That's not flattery - I say it as a caveat. It's a gift. Be careful how you use it. That said, I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the video. I have too many thoughts to express right now but it always breaks my heart to hear a story like this. However, I know I need to hear you out. You always learn more from people you disagree with than from those who just parrot the ideas you already have.
Hey thanks for the compliments. I really appreciate it! 🙏🏻 I know my story is hard for people of faith to hear, especially if they're more empathetic and compassionate opposed to hard-lined and judgmental. So thanks for your kindness! Have a good one!
he had loooong left Jesus or he never really knew him, from God to essentially witchcraft without discerning this? So he goes on demonic trips on mushroom, his house was built on sand Matthew 7:24-26, the devil took his mind and basically molded to whatever he wanted, sad, he has no clue how real the devil is, this is the most basic playbook he uses to lead people astray, crazy a "pastor" would fall so easily, he must have never experienced the power of God to be blown away with little child's play demonic revelations (also, who do you think is telling these mediums about you?) - I pray you cry out to Christ and "reconcile" back to him- as a pastor how did you miss "2 Corinthians 11:14 ??? And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light" this is just not adding up
@@JohnRaineyChannel you are to lead your wife, your wife essentially was eve, gave you the fruit to eat and was led astray
I think we all go through time when our faith is tested. But in the end there’s only one way to God . I can see what the problem is! You think to much. Do not lean on your own understanding. Wish you well Tee 🙏🏿❤️
I have felt like you for a long time. And I have had a lot of the same experiences in my life.
John, I really appreciated this genuine video. I grew up in church, and similar to you, have my earliest memories rooted in Jesus. I went to a Bible college in Missouri and was a defender of the faith lol When I turned 24, I had an encounter with God I will never forget. It was definitely supernatural. In the years following, I had dreams, visions, healings, and have known things about others that I could never have known. This was all still in the context of following Jesus. The problem arose when the churches I went to didn’t believe or accept the spiritual side. At this point in my journey, I am getting down to the roots of what Jesus taught. What did he really say without all the “traditions” added onto it? What did he really mean?
I appreciated this video because it does feel scary when the world view we have held onto since childhood comes crumbling down. I could definitely relate! For me, the fear came when I realized that “church” as we know it maybe wasn’t what Jesus intended or meant at all.
On the other hand, it’s been amazing to see that Jesus refuses to be put in our little boxes of which I think mine was the tiniest! How could we do that or even think we could do that to the Creator of the Universe?
Some of the books that are are impacting me now are Copernicus and the Jews by Daniel Gruber and the Anguish of the Jews by Edward Flannery. It is definitely helping me see how much “religion” is tied up in everything!
Praying for you! And pray for me!! I know God will show us the way!❤❤
Thanks for sharing, I am glad that my video and story has resonated with you! The spiritual journey is a crazy one with ups and downs, but I always remain grounded knowing God loves me and I just do my best to love others the very best I can. ❤️
I left the church but would still consider myself Christian.
Don't forget: "Wherever there are two or three gathered in my name, I am amongst them." nobody needs a church.
@@MrSeedi76As a Christian, believing I had the power of a prophet, had the sheer audacity to curse everybody who wasn't Christian to "worship or die". If this happened to be true, many would have died. This was the cruelest curse in human history. Down with the Bible that advocates behavior such as my own! Do not encroach on people's spiritual freedom. I was no better than the witch hunter of medieval history. I am eternally sorry to the people I have hurt with such a curse, as I evilly tried to twist your free will to get you to worship the maniacal god, Jehovah who I now openly blaspheme! I wish worldly people well but Christians you are ferociously scared little girls who worship fear mongering and the threats of hell. I know because I was one and had I not been punished I'd still be walking the Earth devouring your free will and trying to persuade you to this horrendous orthodoxy. I blaspheme the holy spirit! Please stay out of churches! Do not be entrapped by this heinous religion!
Was brought up in church
Many things happened but i know that God is alive and am not going anywhere till i meet Jesus again
Beautiful story. Thanks for sharing!
You mentioned you were into apologetics yet I couldn't find the segment about it. Did you mention the resurrection, prophecies, life of Jesus etc I'd like to hear your thoughts on those parts
He knows what the Bible says about Jesus but had no actual personal relationship with Him.
@@freezn6287yep. He lacks an imaginary friend.
@@petemccutchen3266 I have seen Him with my own eyes on a couple of occasions. Most of His glory was veiled from me but He is very much real.
Leaving what is taught today as Christianity vs losing faith in God are really two different things. No one talks about that.
Thank you for sharing your journey.
Hi John, thanks for sharing your story. I am a believer in Jesus and I am sad to hear where you are in your spiritual jouney. I would like to recommend that you and anyone else that has deconstructed their faith listen to a podcast called Blurry Creatures. It's not a Christian podcast but the co-hosts are. They talk about aliens, strange creatures, giants, demonic activity, spirit guides, etc. I think there is a problem with the modern Christian faith that doesn't explain some of the things that you went through. So when you do, your Christian paradigm can't handle it and you end up leaving. This podcast tackles many of those issues. I think you might find it helpful.
The issue at hand is sin and God’s nature of being just. Sin brings suffering (the pleasure is short term, and the suffering is long term-on earth and in hell forever). God brings Righteousness (may have short term suffering followed by long term pleasure- on earth and in Heaven).
If you love yourself repent of your sins (lying, hatred, unforgiveness, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, stealing, dishonouring your parents etc) & believe in Jesus for forgiveness of sins. (Jesus died on the Cross as a sacrifice and defeated death by rising from the dead)
Hi John, Thanks for sharing your journey. Of course, I come here through watching your amazing wife. Watched out of curiosity and now feeling it was divine intervention that has led me here. I have a similar story. Raised in conservative Christian home and schools, even went to bible college. About 10 years ago got out of the bubble and really started questioning all those answers for everything that I had been fed all my life. It created an existential crisis for me. It has been a long road of going through that crisis, rejecting all spirituality to forging my own beliefs and now feeling more connected to God than ever before. I still miss the community of church and so to stumble upon someone who has also gone through this is a joy. I look forward to your future content. Maybe a book club might be a good idea? I would love to have a group of people to read and explore new ideas on spirituality with.
Whoa, thanks for sharing! I am glad that you clicked and came on over! As far as the book club goes, I don't know if you saw, but I am kind of doing that on Instagram -- @johnreadingthings check it out! ❤️
I’ve been on a existential crisis! Feeling anxiety and confused for weeks this video is so healing and comforting to know I’m not the only one who struggled with all that you said ! The fear is slowing going away the more I intuitively connect to God and oneness
Thank you! Thank you so much 🎉❤
So glad to hear the fear is going away. it is so hard to wrestle with, but there is NO fear in true love. Take care!
@@JohnRaineyChannel amazingly said ❤️ love is the highest frequency thank you !
Well…the Christian Bible says a lot of things…. It’s true we’re most definitely are not GOD
But the “I exclusively have the answer to God” because of one verse “I am the way, I am the truth…NO ONE comes to…blah blah”. Would mean most people through history would not get there. 1500 years of corrupt Catholicism and NO Protestants of reformation. The worshipping of saints the paying priests for the absolving of sins for centuries and centuries and the millions killed in the name of El Savador Jésus Cristos- El Salvador also being the first human slave port in the history of mankind all in the name of Jesus El Salvador… 😢
I would say to you. DO NOT WORRY
Just pray to “whoever”
And call it “HEAVEN” or “wherever my dead loved one are” or “Whoever created me- THANK YOU. I’m confused…please help me be calm and happy”
let’s just follow christians their belief not mine. There words.
Just take the Kings James Christian Bible or any Christian Bible. The New Testament is diametrically opposed to the Old Testament. Not the Hebrew words. The Christian account of the Hebrew Bible.
Let’s read the Jesus Christ Bible which refutes any such thing as “follow the words of Jesus and be a Christian according to any church denomination of which there are thousands”
I’m just going to quote JESUS and the words of any CHRISTIAN BIBLE.
Not my opinion. It’s YOUR OPINION
YOUR BELIEF AND WORDS as Christians.
Not mine. I’m no new age, we are all gods and I’m no “I AM SAVED and everything else is Satan…devil stuff”.
You know you could just read Mark 16:16-18 and realize that the New Testament is laughable (and definitely changed / interpolated)
where Jesus says “believers in ME (Jesus) can pick up snakes and drink deadly poison and NO HARM will come to said Christians 😂 “
PLEASE UPLOAD A VIDEO NOW CHRISTIANS TO PROVE YOU FOLLOW JESUS AND DRINK THAT DEADLY POISON HEAL THE SICK SPEAK MANY LANGUAGES AND PICK UP SNAKES. FOLLOW JESUS. You say you believe.
Upload the video and prove to the world your faith and PLEASE get as many Christians as possible to join you.
Or you could of read Romans 13:1 “God placed ALL authorities (like the Roman senate 😂) to make the laws and if you disobey them, GOD uses those authorities to carry out GOD’S wrath 😂😂”. What did people forget about God’s wrath on Sodom, God’s wrath on the Pharaoh, the whole of mankind in Noah’s time!!! Did God suddenly say, “I will let all the socialist psychopaths crazy communists and repugnant Royalty like the Roman Empire make the rules and brutalize every human if they real the AUTHORITIES rules so I can have tea and eat cake 😂” Paul ‘the obvious Roman government agent’ Apostate might as well wrote “SOCIALISM OR DEATH” like Fidel Castro. He might as well have written “Caesar is the Savior of the Roman land and then the whole world” like Stalin.
You could of saved yourself a lot of pain by reading Deuteronomy 4:35.
or Ezekiel 18:20. (No one can die and pay for anyone else’s sins)
Perhaps JESUS’ parable of the Prodigal Son. Where the Father (an allegory for God and the Nature of God’s love) forgives the Son because he realizes his error and returns with a contrite heart. The father rejoices…The father doesn’t ask the servants to erect a WOODEN CROSS in the yard immediately and then NAIL the good obedient son who remained with him to the CROSS saying “HE MUST DIE. I NEED BLOOD before I can look at my wayward son who has now returned”
COME ON 😂
Isaiah 11 - enemies will becomes friends - the wolf and the lamb together. The MESSIAH will FEAR GOD. Not the messiah IS GOD.
Nothing prophesied happened during Jesus’ time in Isaiah 2 or 11 in the Christian Bible. enemies didn’t not become friends, quite the opposite wars increased and then increased some more once Christianity was adopted by any country in Europe.
The Greek New Testament. Why written in Greek if everything happened in Roman Judea. Surely the people around Jesus and the San Hedrin speaking to the Jews spoke Hebrew. Jesus spoke the sister language of Hebrew.
Why Greek. The language of the Elite in Rome. Jesus didn’t go to Rome.
The gospel isn’t based around Rome.
Greek was the language of the educated and the favoured Romans.
The Roman people didn’t speak or read Greek. That’s like the London Government writing all the countries laws in LATIN.
Who would be able to understand the Gospel that should be evangelized to the WORLD 😂 when only a tiny percentile of the population would have been able to read it. 😂
What were the most common temples in Greece. The temple of Apollo.
APOLLO. Lets look him up and see what the Greek people called APOLLO shall we….
The beautiful SON OF GOD (Zeus and Goddess Leto)
The healer
The patron of shepherds (the good shepherd)
The Truth
The light of the world
Offerings given to APOLLO on the SUNDAY.
Born in a remote place. Humble beginnings.
His sacred day - Winter solstice celebrated on the 25th of December.
He killed the PYTHON (the snake)
He brought the laws for the world
Jesus did all these things
And he wore a crown of thorny like Laurel.
At the time of Jesus he was the most influential of all the Etruscans mythology and Roman mythology he had temples and statues holding a sheep or killing a Snake which were later renamed as Iesous but were once Apollo.
Whoops. Any coincidences. 😂
Literally the whole of it is identical.
So if you believe in Jesus and you worship Jesus you are worshipping like the Greeks.
Personally I wouldn’t worry. Because WHO is to say that the Greek sages and philosophers who have so much wisdom to the ancient world and it is still relevant today weren’t worshipping the 12 Olympians (who later became 11 disciples and Jesus) but they had different names for the same Angels sent by Zeus who maybe just another manifestation of Yahweh or Jehovah or Allah or El or even Horus and Osiris.
God is everywhere. Why would GOD of all humans just appear through Jesus two thousand years ago, why not 500 years before that and 500 years before that and 1000 years before that and since the beginning of time.
Horus (God the Father) and Osiris (the Son the King who resurrects again and again). The Egyptians fell away and then it landed to the Israelites. Then the Israelites fell away and it landed to Persians. Then the Persians fell away and it landed to the Greeks. So on and So on.
The flood story is in all cultures.
Why couldn’t GOD send angels (for pagans human gods or lesser gods as poets and healers and warriors)
Maybe the story of a savior sent from heaven is like the myth of Sisyphus - doomed to repeat the same message the same task of showing a culture and appearing in peoples dreams and myths and legends over and over again.
So that every tribe hears a similar legend in their culture.
God…ooooh He is smart.
GOD has a way for EVERY culture that has ever existed to BOW down before Him.
He doesn’t go by just ONE name.
GOD is TOO smart for that.
Christians think it’s ALL about them….
and God doesn’t ‘find a way’ to reach indigenous people for thousands of years. 😂😂 that’s laughable and blasphemy.
I would strongly recommend "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future" by Fr. Seraphim Rose. I'll leave it at that, that's my shameless plug lol. The Western world has made it difficult to feel secure and grounded, even for someone that has fully embraced their beliefs, so I sympathize with you.
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Thanks for sharing. I would recommend you research and meet people that have experienced NDE’s.
point of interest here... I just recently worked with a 16 year old student who came from some supposedly strong religious family. He was anti drinking, and believed that beer was evil (I guess then a can of beer has a mind and soul). Even when I asked him about his take on Jonah and the Whale, I was shocked by his lack of really being able to read what was actually written, and his faith was really based on bias and assumption. He when speaking to him, his mind was elsewhere, he refused tasks given to him, etc. We had also working with us a 22 year old who swore a lot, and occasionally drank. The younger man believed in his own lack of humility, that he was going to convert others. The older one was hands down a better person to work with, more respectful, and always went out of his way to help out. When I here people say "I have a personal relationship with Jesus", can mean a multitude of things. Our 16 year old student had a list of rules that he believed made him better than others, yet I would never consider him that loving. You could really tell that the 16 year old, in his cult like homeschool, was bias in his education, and had view points of the world that was very skewed, and in error.
Beautifully said ❤ thank you for sharing so openly, authentically, and respectfully. I've never been a believer myself but also have a great deal of respect for others' beliefs and journeys. I'm very much looking forward to your future videos 😊 🙏
Thanks so much! ❤️❤️
There is nothing beautiful about rejecting Christ.
I prayed for you.❤
I chocked the chicken for you too
@koki84ji7 the lord rebukes you