The Problem With “It’s All Been Done Before” In Fashion [RANT?]
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sorry the audio is a bit too crispy today! anyway what are your thoughts? is modern fashion boring or should it just be viewed in a different way than historical fashions? 👀
I honestly like it. Mostly cuz I always liked to dress past-like, so it's much better that people will not look at me weird for liking something like that anymore
✨ c r i s p y ✨
Different but I feel everyone has a take on an outfit or trend even if it's highly similar!!
It is difficult to view something objectively while experiencing it. So comparing modern to historical fashion may not be practical. That being said, no I don't care for modern fashion. It is not environmentally friendly.
I hope modern fashion becomes more environment-friendly. And yes, I lovee vintage. It's automatically visually feminine IMO
Karolina would know since she's been around for at least a thousand years.
When the world started, there was only Karolina and John Maclean
And also Queen Elizabeth
@@Hana_H The 3 witches that created life as we know it
Well, she looks good for 1021 years old!
Yet manages to look 26
"Then you're getting naked, and that's not fashion, that's just nature" - Meme Mom 2021
Its been done before, Adam and Eve did it first 😆
Iconic
@@barnes-md7mf While she was ranting, I was thinking, 'fig leaf'.
I was looking for this comment
@@lord_xylozdoomsday959 That was Cain
In other words, "It's all been done before" has already been done before.
Time truly is a circle
And that's my senior qoute now
So true
- The Book of Ecclesiastes (traditionally ascribed to Solomon) 970-931 BC
All the Teenagers saying they are wearing clothes from the late 90/early 2000 and I'm "nope! That's from the 70s!" Had the same outfits when I was 15 and at that time my mother complained that there is nothing new in fashion and she wore the same stuff when she was young ..... 🤷😩
The title should have been: *Immortal unsatisfied time traveler rants about modern fashion*
underrated comment!
That's it, time to bust out the metallic fabrics and psychedelic styles from the Zenon and Back to the Future movies! lol
That’s it. You’ve broken this channel down to its most basic fundaments
there is no modern fashion, she is speaking from ignorance
look at any runway show, it's 100% vintage stuff
vintage IS the fashion now
@@seabreeze4559 therefore she is correct, it's a good thing we all agree 😊
Mens fashion is definitely boring these days.
What men's fashion? It's not just boring, it's non-existent. It's truly bizarre how men's fashion has literally normalized Casual Slob into the only acceptable look. They used to say that men's suits were a perpetual style, but the suit is almost dead. Men's fashion is so dead that even tucking in a shirt looks like overstuffed foppery (to use the old-fashioned word).
Men who do dress fashionably are labelled "feminine" which I will never understand
I was gonna say "What men's fashion?" but others beat me to it. I've never understood why if artists can create so many unique and amazing clothing for men to wear when drawing fiction/fantasy, why they don't fashion designers get together with them to bring interesting men's fashion to life.
As a ftm I definitely prefer menswear to women's fashion(which is inherently oppressive)
My boyfriend tried to get into sewing, because he wanted to learn to sew his own clothes, but there are almost no patterns for men, and he just kind of....gave up
"You can't go more minimalistic than a tanktop, because then you're just getting naked and that's not fashion, that's just nature." - Karolina Zebrowska.
Even with a tank, the undergarment can change the silhouette, be it braless, bullet bra, standard padded rounded bra, lifted bustier, hidden or showing contrast straps, etc. The undergarment can put a date stamp to some extent.
There is fashion in Karolina's nature. 😉
What we're wearing now in the 2020s is almost identical to what we wore in the 1970s: jeans, a t shirt and sneakers. Fashion barely changing in 50 years is basically unheard of in western fashion history. Like you said, the only thing that's changed is hair, makeup, accessories and very slight changes in silhouette. But it's essentially the exact same at it's core idea
I kind of agree with you, but then again the core idea of women's fashion was a long dress, for centuries. Even how much fabric the skirt had was dependent on how rich the wearer was for centuries, only the positioning of the skirt volume chapnged. So to me, those "very slight changes in silhouette" are the important part. They do happen a lot faster and much more subtle than in previous centuries, and repeat more often like meme mom pointed out, but they are still the most important part about how we (or, well, at least how I personally) perceive the current fashion
Arguably it's the most practical/comfortable western clothing to date, so no wonder people still wear it without much change
@@floralcat7328 idk, sometimes I look at pictures of people from the 70s and think they could literally teleport to the modern day and nobody would bat an eyelid and think they look out of place at all, compare that to any other 50 year time gap in western fashion history and it's just impossible. Yes women just wore dresses, but the style is soooo vastly different. Like comparing 1810s and 1860s fashion, they're worlds apart
there's been no new fashion for about a decade, no new style
only vintage, if we look at runways
I want her to review runway shows
@@hi-ve1cw marilyn dressed modern too, fashion hasn't had any new styles for about a decade
I mostly feel like everyone is too focused on originality on the whole. Like....have a lot of things been done? Yes. But have they all been done by YOU? Fuck no. It doesn't matter that it's been done before, because ideas aren't one-use, they're recyclable. We can go back in time and pick apart every modern trend and track it backwards until we see than nothing is original, but someone tell me exactly why WE in the 21st century cannot enjoy them now. It really doesn't matter If a piece of art isn't 100% completely original, as long as it isnt a complete carbon copy, references and interpretation and just....doing it because YOU want to, and you enjoy it is completely valid. Especially now almost every different person has their own style instead of a single dominant style, it just comes down to our own aesthetic and taste. You do you, even if someone has already done it, because yo haven't.
Isn't it odd, how fashion used to be all about fitting in and wearing 'the newest fashion/styles', whereas now (when this is actually achievable for more people than ever), we yearn for individuality and 'expressing our personality' through our clothes?
People just always want, what they can't have. Or what only a few can have, anyways. Wearing the current trends used to be a sign of wealth and status. Now that 'fast fashion' has made trendy clothes available to the masses...people who want to 'stand out' have to wear either the absolute newest trends for only a very short time or somehow deviate from current trends altogether and go minimalist or wear vintage or whatever.
Edit: in case, that somehow sounds like a critic of what you wrote - it's not. I wholeheartedly agree with what you said. These were just some random thoughts, that came into my mind.
@@raraavis7782 oh, no, I totally agree with you, and there's definitely a certain "the grass is always greener" mentality when it comes to....basically everything, but especially fashion and the way we present ourselves. At the end if the day, it should really all be about personal expression and taste. I for one have extremely outlandish and.....kinda terrible taste. But I wear strange shit I pick up from craft shops and charity sales because it makes me feel like a million quid. The only standards I look to reach are "do I feel fabulous in this" and I just kinda go for it. Bot everyone wants to stand out, and of the people who do, fewer still want to stand out for their fashion, so I sincerely believe there will always be a way for almost anyone to stand out, because what matters is that they wear exactly what they want to Express themselves just right. Anyway, this Is a whole waffle over nothing....tldr, standards and trends are stupid, do your own thing, and if your own thing happens to be exactly the same as someone else....who cares.
This. Yes. I like it.
I really like your way of thinking about this!! It's refreshing. I suddenly feel inspired to go out and wear some wacky stuff just cause :)
@@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141
I feel you with the love for weird and possibly 'ugly' pieces of clothing.
I got a couple of those, too.
Sometimes it's weird 'granny' stuff, sometimes it's t-shirts from the girl's department, with 'My Little Pony' motives on them. I don't care. If I love it, it's going home with me. Even, if I have to cut off the arms, to fit into it 😄
The thing I love about vintage fashion and generally the fashion of older decades is that the clothing used to be SO INTERESTING! Patterns, quirky silhouette details, fabrics, effort was put into designs. Now it has all mixed up and the main point is not really to make your clothing unique (unless you can afford to pay hundreds/thousands of dollars for something outstanding), but to sell as much of the clothing as possible and that's just sad.
I mean, as with everything else, complicated clothing costs more money, so the majority just can't afford it in the modern economy. Contemporary architecture is much more simplistic for the same exact reason.
Nothing changed.
Interesting clothes were once sewn by the best designers for the rich. Now we have haute couture shows... for the rich.
And the factory in those days simply did not exist, so people spent time sewing and gowns couldn't be the same.
there is no modern fashion and hasn't been for about a decade
there is no new style
it's all 100% vintage
look at runway shows in the past decade and especially past few years
@@mishynaofficial i dunno the hermes show is really boring and looked charity shop
@@seabreeze4559 so what? You can't judge modern fashion by 1 brand. There used to be boring outfits too. And it's all a matter of taste, tbh.
Not gonna lie as an art student , especially after taking art history and etc you realize how just about everything has been done and finding something actually original is extremely difficult
Yeaaz i thought the same thing, it's just recycling all over the year
The only way i see that fashion designers could come up with new concepts would be only if you literally wore abstract shapes of clothes that change drastically the way your body looks but most people are not willing to wear something that might be very wild or uncomfortable/incovenient
@@stavroulathebest i have some dusty memories of pictures from bauhaus parties in the 1920s that looked pretty much like that and i think it's also been done in the theater styles of brecht. the concepts people came up with for theatre and ballet costumes in the 1920s were incredible, lots of geometrical shapes (not like nowadays were i feel like half the time the costumes are normal contemporary, simplistic period pieces or people being naked, but maybe that's just the theatere culture around here)
And as a graphic designer who has only worked for 1 year, I have been fully resigned to the void of recycling ideas. Anything to meet the deadline.
As a graphic design student...yes, same 💔
Very interesting point about how couture designs will never progress past being just “ideas” in modern fashion unless the trend cycle of fast fashion slows down! Thanks for sharing
Cause the dominant aim of modern clothing is to be casual and comfortable, you can't do that with most couture pieces
I demand she reviews runway shows. just change the music.
@@mrmr4622 True.
@@mrmr4622 Nothing is a comfortable as clothing that is made to your body measurements. When you have tried that you realise how little modern clothing is actually about being comfortable. It is a lie we are being sold.
@@kattkatt744 traditional ethnic clothing from all over the world are based on simple shapes cut to the right size for your own proportions. These inherently have loose drapes that allow for weight changes, free movement and comfort.
Modern minimalist style is based on standard proportions (that vary between garments, let alone brands) and ease of production. This benefits the manufacturers, not the wearers.
You're right. Highly tailored clothes are very comfortable when properly fitted.
“Art is never finished, only abandoned.” - Leonardo
Which Leonardo? Because, without a last name or description, I’m picturing a giant teen turtle saying this as he fights a dude over NYC as he fights to save some piece of art from the guy trying to steal it. And ninjas. Lots of ninjas helping steal it.
- Also Sayori from Doki-Doki Literature Club (before she fucking hangs herself).
Are the silhouettes discussed in the video examples of archetypes in Western culture that are “never finished, only abandoned?”
Da Vinci, children. Leonardo Da Vinci. He never finished his art lol. His own students said he didn't.
Apart from being expensive and exhausting, today's fast fashion is also EXTREMELY bad for the environment and has a HUGE carbon footprint. While the planet is burning, people are still worried about being fashionable. It's so decadent.
My hope is that someday there are no "fashion trends" and that we all just wear whatever we want, regardless of the era.
Yes!
i feel like it will never happen, unfortunately (unless we get bored of everything)
@@meiysko I mean it could be possible trend cycles are getting shorter and shorter there would have to be a point where people would just give up and do whatever they want
that's now, there's no youth culture anymore thanks to internet copcats and subcultures
@@seabreeze4559 exactly, everything is a subculture nowadays. What’s ironic is that wearing (or even just mimicking) a subculture’s style is extremely trendy. Anyone can wear whatever they want as long as they’re bold enough to wear it.
Everything’s been done before unless it’s made of a material or method that brings something to the table that did not exist before.
Like transparent plastic, which did not exist before the invention of plastic. Or a dress that can catch fire and change color after it does. Or a coat that, when you put it on, can make me forget all the stress of my daily life and what an unaccomplished sod I truly am. Yes…. Invent a material that can make me truly smile again. That’s DEFINITELY never been done before.
Edit: my plastic example better explained, hopefully
Transparent or color changing- do you mean the 2000s?
@@queentroller2865
No, plastic was already done in the…. Sixties??? But I mean, plastic was not done in the 1800’s. It was not done before the INVENTION of plastic
@@queentroller2865
Modified, my comment to hopefully better explain what I meant by mentioning plastic.
I'd suggest to look for Iris van Herpen.
I call that my bathrobe... 😜
i wasn't expecting literal butts when you said, "but". 😭
glad to have you back, Filemon, we missed you! oh and you too, Meme Mother.
Lol that emoji looks kinda like jk cause it’s blurry
I was. it's almost a meme already in some CZcams cyrcles.
Fashion today has zero to do with being fashionable, but everything to do with revenue. It would indeed be good if people would start jumping off the bandwagon and start taking it slow again. Not only for fashion’s sake, but also for our own sake and well-being. And what about the environment?
Its also about being comfortable, as good as everyone looked in the 20s for example, I'd much rather wear some jeans, a t-shirt and sneakers than a full on suit, shoes and a hat.
I think people should dress for either comfort, longevity, what matches well with their body, and especially what makes them happy and feel true to themselves, I think people shouldn’t buy clothes just because everyone is wearing it but because they genuinely like it and can see themselves wearing it in the future or goes with the rest of their wardrobe
manufacturing matches consumption patterns, that's why men's fashion is slow to change
meanwhile, women buy new dresses or new fabric to make them (Still consumption!) or new 'hauls' of old clothes - all "fast" CONSUMPTION PATTERNS....
@@seabreeze4559 While menswear is slow to change, something tells me that it's about to go through the same evolution that womenswear went through in the last 100 years, but in the timespan of 20 years.
@@mrmr4622 id say it was way more comfortable back then than now because they were used to it and also used better/natural materials
The fashion trend loop be like:
Fashionista 1: "Ugh! That shirt went out of style last week!"
Fashionista 2: "Oh, but now it's back! It's retro!"
Excuse me but your make up looks particularly marvelous today.
And your cat looks done with life
That's how most cats look 😅
Ah yes priorities 😂
"constantly worrying about fashion is exhausting"
*me, looking at my wardrobe that hasn't been updated for 10 years* :i guess im not stressing about it too much.
Technically, true original idea are extremely rare, if not impossible. When trying to make a new "idea" our brain literally just splices together a lot of pieces of things we already saw before and mixes it together to make something "new".
a good example of recycling old fashion styles is the 80's/90's goth movement, specifically the romantic or victorian goth scene. to this day I still really enjoy seeing historical elements put into clothing because thats where the interest lies for me. the shapes and the fabrics and the patterns were much more intriguing to me than what I see in modern/trendy fashion.
Regarding your points on fast fashion, one of the reasons why I dont engage with fashion tiktok as much as i want to is cause it is chalk full of people who belittle others who arent "trendy" anymore, when really the people they are making fun of just arent contributing to fast fashion on the same level as they are.
Thank you!
I usually try to avoid the trends on purpose because I don’t find them equal to my tastes. I had always hated trends and loathe TikTok for all of the silly nonsensical trends it is putting out there.
tiktok from an outsiders perspective seems to make fashion garments into, basically, memes. it goes viral and everyone wants it for a week and then all of a sudden its not fashionable anymore so if you bought like 5 or 6 of the thing in all the colors (bc you're on tiktok and shopping at shein, i've seen those hauls) you can't even wear any of them anymore without being told it's out of style now and you have to get rid of it. prob why i'm seeing a huge increase of shein brand stuff at the thrift and resale stores lately ... but just like the collection of lularoe, i will not touch it lmaooo
@@petrichorbones wow actually "meme" is the perfect word to describe fashion trends on tiktok. like they're so specific you can actually reference exact garments. and you can create multiple versions of it (a similar garment from different brands or styled differently or in different colors etc.) just like variations on a meme. weird
i get so annoyed at those fashion reality shows where they say something isnt "a new innovation" or that "ive seen this before". I sit there and yell at my screen like DUDE theres only so much we can do on the human form unless we start growing more heads or arms or something...
A lot of brands are bringing classic styles of the brand. Chanel usually sticks to their brand's vision but now it's becoming common to repeatedly see couture brands stick within their own box.
Which plays on exactly what you talked about, pulling from historical fashion on one form or another.
Thanks for this video!
the need to remain 'current' at odds with the need to bring in younger customers
I feel like a lot of people here aren’t considering something that’s relatively new to fashion: Sneakers. It’s true to that sneakers have their own trends and revivals, but I have seen some sneakers that don’t look like anything from the past, stylistically and technologically as well.
true some of those things look like sci fi spaceships and cost like 600$ lol
what if we made fashion to match outlandish spacey sneakers maybe that would be interesting
"You can't go more minimalistic with a tank top, because then you're just naked and that's not fashion, that's just naked"
People: why are people today wearing outfits from the 70's and 80's and 90's??? Why is Y2K making a comeback??
Me: thriftshops are hugely popular among poor young adults and are mainly filled with fashion from those decades. Fast fashion Brands are trying to emulate that because young adults in their early 20's are their main target audience.
Also, nostalgia media now widely available on streaming services made by adults who grew up in those decades and who are now leading forces in the entertainment industry, eg Stranger Things (or media from that time now available on streaming services eg Friends) have a huge cultural impact and culture always impacts fashion.
"thriftshops are hugely popular among poor young adults and are mainly filled with fashion from those decades" - That's definitely not it. Anything actually vintage i.e. from the 90s or earlier will be among the expensive stuff at the thrift store. Contemporary fashion is widely available and much cheaper there. People aren't too to poor to buy modern clothes, they just want to look like the people in Stranger Things, like you suggested.
@@HankaAAR I don't know where you live but where I live (Europe) there is no price difference per era. It's just stuff on racks and it all costs about the same per shop. There is only a cost difference in wether its pants or a top or a dress ect. I shop almost exclusively in thriftshops, Think Twice, Episode, Melting Pot Kilo ect. Big thriftshop chains in Europe that import from specifically the era's I mentioned from scandanavian country's and Asia, (mainly japan).
I'm speaking from my own experience as a young adult and a poor student with no job. I saw and lived through the popularity rise of thriftshops among students in city's.
@@HankaAAR that highly depends on where you shop. I Shop in charity shops and Most of the stuff they have is y2k. Then 90s. With 80s there have popped Up specialised Vintage Shops, but you still find that stuff in charity shops as Part of donations. While it's Not specifically Sold as Vintage, i think the OP makes a good Point that lots of poor Young adults, especially the ones in Student cities with a good education but No Money, tend to Go for charity shops and instagran can easily Turn that into aspirational, especially with climate Change in the equation. Fast Fashion wanting to jump onto the Bandwagon makes sense. But also people wanting to look the Part but still having easy access to clothes
But tik tok kids aren't young adults
@@rubenaalexander5007 I'm not sure what you mean with this? I'm not on tiktok so I don't know how they dress or what they're into. However there are several statistics out there on the ages of tiktok's users but roughly they say the same thing. About 40% of TikTok users are aged between 16 and 24. If that is accurate then a lot of them are indeed young adults. 18 to 24 is also the target audience for fast fashion brands.
I would love to see a larger portion of the population start making their own clothing. Even if everyone is using the same patterns, the fabric and construction choices would make every place unique.
Ooooh... And tbf this has sort-of started happening thanks to Etsy, that we're buying clothes from individuals not companies selling millions of copies...
I think the biggest reason for the 'seen it' feeling is that we see a lot on the internet, on purpose or not.
LET’S ALL START WEARING CAPES AGAIN!!!
I am so here for capes.
I expect more and more celebrities to speak about the history of the garment they wear, as in how it was made and how sustainable it is. The sustainability trend has already entered the fashion world and it’s here to stay until it becomes a given and is no longer something unique.
„Getting new clothes is exhausting“
YES!!!
There are only so many shapes a sleeve can have, really...you just try to combine it with different things.
Yup, you can give one sleeve 10 different names but in the end it will still be the same shape.
You sure about that? My pattern drafting book with a dozen pages of sleeves says differently lol
i really liked the point about how minimalistic modern fashion is, and how by necessity it will inevitable recycle- but mostly recycle what is also minimalistic and fitting our modern tastes (so taking 90s jeans again but not 50s petticoats). that's why i'm purposely sewing historical- screw modern taste! go wild, add trimmings, flounces here and there.
I'm still wearing the same clothes i bought 5years ago i was surprised to see how my sisters style changed so much during that span while the only clothes i bought since then were the result of my impulsive brain on cottagecore sites at 3am
Haven't finished the video but still saying this😅
I've noticed that a lot of the "trendy" clothes worn nowadays are, if not completely, inspired and taken from older styles and I haven't honestly seen much new stuff that hasn't already existed in the past, except for maybe crocs.
I love your profile picture 😂
Imma going to Ruin crocs for you. (cant believe I said that) are you familiar with Traditional wooden shoes from netherlands? Called clogs? 🙈
I am! But there is a big difference between crocs and clogs, no?
@@hannalowenherz4839 for some reason that first part made me laugh ))))))
Pahaha here we all are moaning that there's nothing new and sophisticated - and crocs of all things are like, ahem?
That tired jump off of the trend train is exactly what got me to find my own style and I think that's also why I went towards vintage. I was tired of not being able to keep up with trends and I was tired of having clothes that I'd feel uncomfortable wearing after the few months in which they were "cool"
True! I chose men's and women's overalls and coveralls as my menopause outfit/uniform 12 years ago. I wore them almost exclusively in the early 80's and loved them. Now I'm looking in the direction of making full Mexican skirts and tops a la Frida as one of my older age looks. Maybe with a bit of Iris Apfel with lots of bracelets and necklace statement pieces. I decide. I pick and choose. That's how you develop style. Also by not giving too many phucs what other people are wearing or what they think of your choices.
I’m an artist and have recently started drawing self portraits, of myself being inserted into different historical eras. You are a great inspiration to me
That sounds really cool!
Mind if I steal that idea? 👀
@@YedidahMVO Yeah of course!
I'm thinking about average life expectancy in relation to these fashion cycles. Back when people didn't live nearly as long, fashion cycles were MUCH longer. Now that people live much longer, fashion cycles spin in the blink of an eye. Weird
So, as I'm understanding it, the moment we all stop chasing fashion and decide to pick a style and run with it on our own is when we can start seeing like a real, honest attempt at fashion again.
I studied with a fashion forecaster who once said that the groundbreaking thing we're about to see in the future years is the tecnological aspects of the fabrics and we should not demand groundbreaking silhouettes because fashion has always been a carrousel going back and forth.
i think modern fashion is cool, because we’ve entered this era of a partial elimination of mainstream fashion as it has become much more socially acceptable to have your own look,,, but historical fashion STAYS winning and (i think) is a lot more interesting. current fashions are just a combination of old fashion and trying to be sexy, though i do think new fashions will evolve. maybe the fact that we’re living while modern fashion is mainstream makes it seem less important to us?? idk!!
(p.s., great video!! i really like your rants which tend to be thoughtful and very respectful lmao)
Honestly humans want to be innovativ, but at the end of the day we're like the people of 5000 years ago but with Wi-Fi.
A brief moment of peace from my work as it figuratively catches fire due to a party of people wanting 21 large hotdogs
I personally enjoy seeing new takes on fashions. I was a teenager in the 90s and now I'm 42 and my clothes are back just in time for my midlife crisis. I still have and wear clothes from high school, so I'm the pinnacle of 90s vintage fashion rn! 😂😜But seriously, even if it is all recycled, it comes with new fabrics(for good or bad) new color palettes, fun with hair and makeup, and more choices of things to wear for everyone. If one eschews being spot on trend and simply focuses on their own comfort and fashion sense, then all these recycled short cycles give everyone so many more choices. I jumped out of the fashion boat in the 90s and stayed there. I liked it, my pants covered my ass, my tops weren't spaghetti straps and my black shirts with ironic sayings never really died, or band t-shirts. Work attire is where I have had less changes. Due to classic, classy pieces that are practical and presentable are always in style. Tailored slacks and crisp white shirts, sheath dresses with cardigans, black pumps, the all important great watch, no matter the Era that inspired those, they are ever present. Unlike weird fast fashion takes on runway looks that are only appropriate for tiktok... That's just my experience living in the southwest of Arizona in the USA where we are not exactly fashion plates. We still have super nice to look at cowboys/girls/hands who haven't changed their practical fashion for---well, ever. As usual, some of these fashions are mainly for the upper echelons to parade around in since they've really nothing else to do. Poor things. No matter what though, I have to view them different, because to me, they are. I can't use a modern lens on history, and I can't use my 90s brain on fashion now. I have to view it in context and look at what was/is going on at the times.
Hey, the same I. I am the same aged as you and have similar expearience. I wear my 'old' clothes (which still look better as bad tailored and made from worse fabris new ones) from my late twenties and early thirties. Cotton or linen shirts, linen trousers, wide jeans (I hate that modern skinny legs style) and classic dresses. I combine it of course with some new clothes but I try to buy natural fabrics and patters which suit to me no matter what style is fancy at the time.
@@zuzka9680 yes! I sew most of my own clothes now for fit and fabric. Where I live it's so hot all year round that linen is my absolute favorite and cotton flannel is the warmest I need for winter.
*“Thats not fashion that’s just nature.”*
- Karolina Żebrowska 2021
*When you live for more than 500 years and all you see is a bunch of wars, pandemics, and fashion repeating itself:* THIS IS OURAGEOUS THIS IS UNFAIR
*1000
"that's not fashion, that's just nature" is the best way i've ever heard to describe nudity
The New Look by Dior resembles early 1900s European fashion, because that's when Dior was a child and he spent his childhood surrounded by upper class women whose style he adored and wanted to return to when he was older. At least that's what I read in a book.
Researching and making a historical costume is actually a part of my fashion education. It learns us reference and take little nuances to incorporate into our collection. And honestly history is full of amazing styles
Also, your background is amazing, I love the cozy feeling, as if I had a lovely older sister that talks to me about fashion history ❤️
YESSS
YESSS
I agree, the background is fine. It is out-of-focus just the right amount, and there is nothing distracting or jarring that is visible. It's just the inside of your house. It's a fine background.
I 100% agree... and I actually have that lovely older sister
UNDERRATED COMMENT!! Karolina's bedroom gives me such a cozy vintage feeling it's perfect!
Season 2 episode 20
Can we get a review of the wife swap episode of the family who live their lives as if it’s the “Middle Ages”? How the dad is a member of a historian group but the outfits they’re wear aren’t historically accurate?
Anyone know which episode it is?
I want to see this!
I don't know the episode, but I totally support this idea and I would love to see her take on it!
You talked about this but honestly even within some of the bigger companies and more specific fashion designers, the issue personally is that none of them push forward for some of the details of fashion. It's often still plain patterns or just one colour and it's usually just the same fabric but like in waves or just in big folds which is a bit better but I think what we all love about more historical fashion is those tiny details, the sleeves, the shape, the little patterns or frills that are added. Even say, a simple black Edwardian dress, there's usually just some details of it that make it so interesting to study because there's always added elements of pintucks or slight frills or a specific sleeve shape. Of course later on for the 20th century, it's definitely more so the specifics of silhouette, makeup and hair that really engage the difference but that's still in details. But in a way, our current fashion sort of allows for people to chose their style?? As in, we lack really stable trends and don't value it ad much today so in a way it does let some go for more diverse styles (although you'll probably still get stared at).
I am living for your rant videos. Meme mom never disappoints
"No matter how innovative and cool an idea is, It´s an empty idea if it cannot be directly translated to mainstream fashion" - Karolina Zebrowska . That´s the key idea of the video
In college i started discovering my own style and i think its also important so i dont just get dragged by fast changing trends. I used to think i HAVE to have a pair of jeans, but turns out i like skirts and other materials better. I think my style is either office lady on a day off or a girly flowery lady or just gothic lolita
Meme mom back with onion rings in her ears. Cool
It also makes us feel REALLY old as my childhood clothes (bowl style haircuts, jeans everything, neon colors, 1997 in general) returned to fashion. Kids are literally wearing same parachute fabric lounge clothes that i dumped while cleaning my attic 🤦♀️
What I think is also quite interesting in the images you showed is the models themselves. Body types and figures have fluctuated in an interesting way. For example, the two body con dresses had a thinner model in the 90s and a more hourglass model now. It’s nice that we embrace so many body types now in advertising. But that’s another video topic! :)
as someone who's kinda interested in fashion but is also lazy (when it comes to finding clothes) and poor, i've all but given up. finding jeans that fit / flatter me is hard enough without worrying about which styles are in / out.
The first time I found your channel was the Victorian Time Traveler. I am a fan of Steampunk and have some Victorian as well as Old West cloths too. I like you channels historical perspective please do more.
Thank you for making this channel. As a man sometimes I don't feel comfortable admitting I watch this channel, or that I'm into fashion but girl don't stop this is so interesting! I was in the Marines...deployed to Iraq. Seriously, honestly you're one of my guilty pleasures
Thank you for your service. My father is a retired Marine.
There should be no shame in you being interested in fashion. At its core it is history and art expressed through fabric. You don't have to be a specific gender to appreciate those things.
At this point it seems that most people have turned to just bringing back fashion from the last 40 to 50 years. Especially since buying vintage or second hand materials and clothing is now considered "cool." Even hairstyles have come back but cut or colored more neatly/skillfully. Let's not forget that a lot of fashion designers and fast fashion companies crank out designs and ideas either appropriated from or inspired by different cultures, countries, and traditions. I like that people are taking the best parts of different fashion eras and putting it together.
yeah but there's also rich kids refusing to do anything new and just 'slumming it' so they aren't publicly marked as rich and attacked when the economy is bad
classism isn't fashion
charity shops have been gentrified to the point the poor can't afford them
I love that fashion from the 1800 or 40s or any is coming to style agian and I wish that 1800s, early 1900s and 40s/ 50s hairstyles will come to style agian because i will not to scared to be judged if I go outside wearing them
The sentence from 9:45 was the most interesting and striking of the whole video.
But whatever might people say, we're still getting truly new styles every few years or decades, mostly thanks to technology. They are just not widely spread due to high cost or other reasons.
I'm curious about how trends work in alternative fashion, as opposite to mainstream fashion. In particularly, I was researching the history of lolita fashion in Japan (as a branch of otome fashion, which itself came from Romantic revival and Gunne Sax) and contemporary lolita fashion is MORE inspired by historical fashion and silhouetes than proto and old school lolita from the 90s and early 2000s.
*makes entire video about fashion* “that being said I discovered a really cool donut shop in my city” 🤣🤣 iconic
I mean, I saw an oversized Tweety Bird shirt in the store yesterday so we are definitely just in 1990s and it's all just starting back over. 😂
History is a cicle. Things come and go all the time. It's like rewatching your favorite teen show after years since its end. It's like feeling that nice emotion, rediscovering a nice thing again and again.
You have a great makeup!!!! 🖤
Is it me, or wearing vintage/pre vintage clothing feels so much better? Maybe it's the silhouettes, but I feel and look more put together and confident by matching clothing, instead of modern ones 😅🤣
You know, after watching Next in Fashion I do think we can still make new things- looking at for example Minju Kims Stuff there are a LOT of clothes I've never seen quite like that before. It's a shame Designer clothes are so expensive T_T
honestly you see a lot of interesting out-there design concepts from fashion students' graduate collections, especially from Asian fashion colleges.
as for designer clothes... clothes have always historically been expensive. i would gather designer clothes nowadays are not any more unreachable to working-class people than jacquard silk was three centuries ago.
I think it’s fascinating how all fashion takes inspiration from the decades before it. like how a dress from nowadays could take inspiration from a 90s dress and that dress style could’ve originally taken inspiration from a 60s dress and on and on until it can be traced to its origin.
I was wondering if anything from the 1100's, 1200's had ever been recycled in more current fashion.... and then I remembered bell sleeves from the '70's and hanging in my closet now... 😆
So here's a question! With the fatigue that many are starting to have with fast fashion, do you think that people will start to develop individual styles that don't nessicairly reflect what is deemed "fashionable" and instead stresses individuality? I know there were trends as such in the 60s, 70s, and 80s as well as the early 90s (late 90s was all about uniformity, thanks Gap!) but those still largely co-oped by the mainstream rather then niche styles, such as punk from the late 70s and 80s was it's own thing, but you continue to see its influence on and off in mainstream clothing.
I ask this in part because, like many others, I decided to fall into a long running on and off interest in EGL, or Lolita Fashion which pulls heavily from Victorian and Rococo aesthetics, while still remaining different enough. I'm curious if more fashion substyles will emerge in similar ways, taking a specific aesthetic and repurposing it in a way that starts to feel separate from the source. (Like I'm not saying Marie Antoinette wouldn't wear a dress with pastel pink bunnies on it, but... didn't seem like an option for her at the time, you know?)
Given the sheperdess thing, I bet she'd go for a little pink lamb dress.
kibbe body types is already doing this, people are diverging
@@seabreeze4559 the Kibble system was developed in the 80s and updates recommendations based on "safe" mainstream trends. It mostly tells people what to look for when they go shopping because not everyone understands why one garment is flatter while another isn't, and sometimes it's like, the cut is the same but the textile pattern is different? At least according to some parts of the system. It's not really suited to help someone find their own style, just what one guy who happens to have a lot of experience dressing women thinks will make you look best. It only works for fashions that work with ones natural body shape, rather then one that changed via undergarments like historical/vintage fashions. And Lolita as it were.
people who are interested in fashion for the sake of art or individualistic self-expression have always developed personal styles that don't reflect what is deemed fashionable, but the general masses (and especially teens and young adults) just want to buy clothes that (1) make their bodies look good according to modern aesthetics, (2) make themselves not stand out, or (3) are comfortable to wear, so it's likely most people will still follow trends to a certain degree.
as far as fashion substyles go, it's pretty much already happening with the popularity of certain "aesthetics" like cottagecore and dark academia, though clearly fast fashion companies are catering to these now as well.
It's hard to imagine fashion becoming more interesting without a huge cultural shift in the way/amount we work. Americans work way too many hours and therefore don't have time to wear/be interested in complicated fashion garments. Maybe even more influential is the American cultural push towards a comfort/casual lifestyles. Our regular clothes are leggings/jeans and t-shirts is a big reflection of comfort & conformity over fashion/being interesting.
Doughnut fan, live less than a 1/2 mile from a doughnut shop. Surprised I have not gained more weight during the pandemic due to the close proximity. Regarding your original topic, I agree with the lack uniqueness in fashion due to fast fashion. Not all couture creations make mainstream impact. Vintage style has a timelessness that makes it perennially fashionable.
Honestly as time goes on i feel like a lot of people have stopped caring about fashion trends and microtrends and instead have begun looking towards creating and honing their own style. this is helpful cause it makes it so u dont overspend on clothing and don't throw out clothing. u really do this over time too, swapping out stuff over years instead of throwing ur clothes away every month. Its kind of refreshing to see :)
I am loving these rants, you can tell how much work has been put into them!
my favorite line is "that's not fashion it's just nature" because it makes me think about the current fashion trends that revolve around the unclothed body's shape. I'm hoping i live long enough to see our current "slim thicc" body trend recreated in fashion in the future, using padding to achieve the stylish shape. nothing would make me happier than padding normalized in the mainstream again
YES, TELL THEM!
I'm amazed that you could get me interested in something I normally could care less about. Maybe it's your clever editing and presentation, or that I'm interested in history, or that you are simultaneously intelligent, enthusiastic, well reasoned and funny while discussing this; or more likely all of the above that keeps my attention. Excellent work and fun! Thanks.
Holy shit that Schiaparelli veil at 7:35 is jaw-dropping. I love your takes on things. Thank you for introducing me to so much new art
me whenever i try to diet:
*"today is not the day!"*
diets don't work anyways
Diets are stupid and ineffective anyway!
CZcams CC is really stepping up its game. Much appreciated!
I loved when you told the fly off!
The main styles I like are 50s inspired, Steampunk and cottagecore, so I'm clearly a big fan of borrowing from the past.
Actually, I'm so happy that old fashion trends come back to life! I'm glad to wear 80's fashion cause I freaking like it but I wasn't born yet to enjoy it! And we can wear corset or silk dress or big puffy sleeves or all at once, and isn't it amazing? We can now mash up whatever we want to create our own style, and it's not even *that* weird.
I recently ordered a pair of Regency short stays which I fully intend to wear this summer (in Australia) over floaty linen dresses. Can't be bothered strictly adhering to the trends anymore. Life is short! Where what you want ✌😎😂
I adore antiques and historical fashion, and now I find myself completely and utterly unsatisfied or dissatisfied with modern fashion. There is just something about it that offends me. Granted, I only wear modern fashion because that’s all I’ve presently come to acquire, yet I typically attempt to stray from what is the current trend.
I cannot say it enough. Modern fashion SUCKS - in my humble opinion. I just despise it. It’s always some skimpy garment made of uncomfortable synthetic materials that makes one think the world is on a [natural] fabric shortage. I remember being in a shop on the east coast, and trying on a tube top. I felt naked and the whole thing was so uncomfortable and as restrictive as a badly-made corset.
I also find that modern fashion is just so tiring to look at. It gives me a legitimate headache to go shopping because I see so many unsatisfying things around me that do not fit my very specific personal tastes.
Additionally, while many feel that they are seeing the same thing over again, I do not get that feeling. All I feel is this sense of disapproval at the new trends. I think they are unreasonable, insensible, impractical and frivolous. I have always been a person who believes in modesty - perhaps because I cannot walk around in some short shorts because I feel naked and like I’m being watched - and I think that many make as many attempts to show as much skin as possible - but all for what?
Is it a seductive move? What does showing the body off do? I wouldn’t know, and I try to stay as modest as possible while staying within the bounds of my personal style. I just think that this world is becoming EXTREMELY progressive in fashion and it just gets tiring. The trends seems to change daily and get more and more frivolous as the days pass. I suppose I just don’t understand it.
I’m sorry if any of my opinions seem offensive, that was not my intention if so. I’m simply stating how I feel on this topic.
Thank you
ugh this is such a QUALITY video. 5 stars bestie this is amazing
Great video! I didn’t think about the simplicity factor- I wonder if that’s why colour seems to cycle so much... each season there’s a new colour palette
waiting for the time galaxy leggings will be fashionable again 😩
The oldest kids of generation alpha will be teenagers in three years so that's when I think they're coming back. With the speed we've gone from y2k revival to mid 00s emo revival it might not even be that long.
noooo i hope they never come back in fashion so i can have ALL OF THEM
This is why you just buy well-made pieces that look amazing on you, maybe with a bit of tailoring. Tailoring is surprisingly cheap, with most hem/cuff shortening running $8-10 in my city. Steering away from polyester (which looks like the plastic that it is after a few washes) and other synthetic fabrics is going to make you pay more money. However, your linen shirt that costs $60 is going to last you for 30 years because linen is durable, breathable, and comfortable. Polyester tends to tap out (literally frays apart and dry rots) within 10 years. Paying $2 a year to own quality is worth it.
That's assuming you own that one shirt and only that one shirt which most people don't do. You need something casual and something formal and most people want more than one shirt so they can wear something else sometimes. All this to say that it is MUCH more expensive than $2 a year for good clothes, that's not even factoring in pants and shoes. Sure, a $60 shirt made of good material is more likely to last long but be real, who realistically has $60 to burn on clothes?
And the sad thing I learned after mold attacked my room is that the mold will eat my linen and cotton stuff. I really only have linen if it's thrift store or hand me down
@amandaria
I sooo agree with you. As a student I haven`t much money so I used to buy my clothes in second hand shops. Then I graduate, went to job had money to buy in the ordinary way. Nowdays I just don`t enjoy to buy new clothes. Because they are so fast that they are gone bad after washing twice. And the synthethic fabrics don`t feel good on my skin (with some small exceptions like hoodies or sportswear leggings or bras / T-shirts on the other side I prefer cotton again). I tend to wear my 'old' clothes from my late twenties und early thirties because they feel better, are better tailored and don't waste so quickly as the new fashion. I like to buy second hand clothes again to replace some pieces which finaly gone bad and to have some new things in my wardrobe
@@NamiNuitsuki Yep. $60 isn't cheap when you don't have $60.
Like, I'm working on buying well-made pieces that fit me well and can be worn several different ways, but it's a very slow process to build an entire wardrobe out of those pieces. It's not the end of the world if you buy cheap stuff, especially if it's just to tide you over until you can get stuff that will last, as long as you take care of what you have.
@@mazayashah213 There are many, many ways to destroy clothing. Mold is just one of them. I've seen polyester get eaten by mold. Which is weird, considering it's literally plastic.
Though quite how to define exactly where the thought fits in the theme of the rant, there are only so many things which can be done with clothes and still produce something it is comfortable and practical to live and function in.
(as for me with my health the mess it is, comfort comes first with practicality & at least looking like I care how I look tied for second)
i've reached that point that you mention, where the trends are so fast that it became exhausting, so i just go for the best colors for me, the best shapes for my body type and sometimes casually i buy something unplanned and in general try to look pretty in my own eyes... Reg. the trend recycling, i remember my mother in the 70's saying "i used to have this" or my mother (grandmother) had this! while watching a fashion show with her and me saying uffff! it is not the same!, but i think that the definition of the "it" girl of the particular time and the manufactured attitude in combination with new fabric technologies makes a big difference in the trend recycling theme. thank you Karolina again for another wonderful video!
I barely understand how fashion functions in our cultures, but I sure love hearing you talk about it!
What we’re doing is not sustainable. I can’t wait for us to slow down and let fashion truly flourish! love your attitude
I have been thinking of another reason why fashion has become less recognizable as one particular era, but it's a positive one: Our fashion landscape has become way more individualistic, so there's no longer one particular style or silhouette that's "in". A lot of people develop their own style and theres distinct subcultures and style categories that may be popular during a particular time period. My hope is that once more people find their personal style that they want to stick to, that is also going to help fashion slow down.
I really enjoyed the pace and delivery of this video, and your words about not needing to constantly refresh our wardrobes. Thank you for making this!