Andy Wallace Mix Buss Compression
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0:00 - Intro
0:21 - Setup
1:23 - Compressor Settings
2:08 - Audio Examples
4:11 - Conclusion
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Please keep doing the Andy Wallace tutorials! He is IMO the best audio mixer.
Andy's god like! Great as always!🤘
Great technique. Thank you for posting :)
Nice work. Love your short little tutorials
thanx Green Light
Thank you! 🙌
You're welcome!
Hi mate! Thanx for the info/video.
You didn't started with the Threshold on minimum, but says Andy leaves his untouched. Can you elaborate on that? UAD SSL starting point is null...
Thanks!!!
thx!
In Pro Tools the master fader is before the plugins on the master buss, so it functions in this way automatically. I use several other DAW's and don't know any set up like this.
In Cubase, you can put the compressor in a pre-fader slot or a post-fader slot. If you use pre-fader you could also automate the gain in the pre section to hit the compressor and the back down the level with the master fader. This way, you could control the input and output gain using only one fader.
So if I'm understanding this correctly, the point is not the amount of pump of the compressor itself, it's the input going into it for simple reasons like not having headroom and even tonality purposes?
Why route it as if it were analog? The make up gain won’t be noisy if you turn Analog off
Does this work with GarageBand compressor ? Or do I need the download a limiter first ? Thx
Is this the same as having two gain instances pre and post ssl compressor? That’s what I do I just find it faster to setup that way.
Yes, that's basically the same thing.
How about add this SSL compressor in the submix channel with MixTool for volume adjustment before it?
That would work.
@@GreenLightSound Thank you sir!
Would you agree that this technique on applies when using analogue hardware compressor? While using plugin it doesn't make any difference Vs using threshold? Am I right?
Probably, though some might like having a fader control the compression if you've got a hardware controller.
The makeup gain in the plugin should be noiseless it's digital gain. Only an issue in hardware.
Okay, so -You're NOT putting in on your master buss/ fader then? Wouuuuuldn't we get the same results if we just slapped one on the master fader??
Maybe. I'm just showing you how he does it.
I've been setting up my mix buses very similarly. But I do front bus and rear bus faders blended into my all mix bus where I do my SSL compresser... then I use my final Master bus slots for additional processing post mix, such as EQ and limiter. This gives me the ability to turn off the master bus processing if I want to send to a separate mastering engineer.
@@viol8rmusic Hmm... Interesting! Which DAW are you using??
@@GreenLightSound Just curious -How do you know this is how he does it? Have been enjoying and appreciating your videos, by the way. Thank you!!
I got this one from an old print interview.
Andy Wallace uses attack at 1ms.
Could you elaborate? Why would he do that…? I more often than not do the dr dre.. attck .30 and rls .1 ms and 4 ratio
@@antonjensen nothing to elaborate, that's what he does.
There's many ways to skin a cat.
A lot of engineers also use it at 1.
Incorrect. He used 10ms, auto rel and 4 ratio. This is stated in the Mix With the Masters videos. In the videos he says 1ms, but the hardware is faded out and he just reads it incorrectly. If you look at the unit, it's set to 10ms.
@@bradylasserre9320 thanks for the insight!
1ms is the correct attack time. See the original vídeo closely. 1ms attack time
why not just change the threshold? seems like more unnecessary steps to achieve nothing to me?
I'm going to hypothesize that he does it this way because the behavior is much more variable on an analog device. He's probably used to feeding the transformers and circuitry a certain way. You know get them warm and working in their best designed way and then push into it. In a digital world that wouldn't matter.
I’m quite sure that’s it’s simply so that the compressor always stays in that setting, at that threshold, and the recall settings all get saved into the board. He looks back every once in a while to see where the needle is, but he’s not always reaching for a threshold knob, building the mix levels in a way that doesn’t creep up.
@@stevedoesnt that makes sense for recall
I wonder -Do all producers use master buss processing?? I've found it to be convoluting, overall... Kinda brings my mixes down in energy. Ha! Wish I knew how all these pimps pull it off!
The trick is to mix through it from the beginning. Don't add it at the end or it kills the mix.
@@GreenLightSound That's what they keep telling me... Ha! But, apparently I'm still doing something wrong... -Even when I apply a simple ssl style comp at -1 or 2 db max (mixing THROUGH it), it just seems to flatten my mix in an unflattering way. Looses all the energy -although I can see how it pulls/ gels things together... I needa give it another shot...
Its a thing you can do but imho dont have to
@@panipu Right! I have elected to use no masterbus processing on my mixes, recently.
@@boobo3763 I never understood mixing with a compressor on the master bus either. Now I will do a brick wall limiter so that the level is brought up but it's very transparent.
The bus comp on instrument busses though? Cool.
There are emulations that level better, there are emulations that are cleaner, there are ones with more mojo, but never heard another plugin get the snap quite as right as the Waves... still wish it was closer to the hardware. Somebody needs to do a new, up to date emulation of the SSL G comp with the technology that's available today, Pulsar, Arturia, or someone...
Check out TimP’s SSL bus comp library for Acustica Nebula. 🤯
@@ilikemyrealname is it that good? Will have to get acqainted
@JoeyOfBananas: that is exctly true. Even the SSL native Bus Compressor does not „snap“ as the Waves does.
@@JoeyFTL Nebula and especially TimP libs are worth looking into. Although to comment on your initial point, I agree that there is something unique about the snap of the Waves SSL comp.
@@JoeyFTL it is that good!!
Your snare is choked before the SSL.
These are bad settings
Try this instead. Try doing less 2 to 4 db
30 ms attack
.1 release
No analog button
Recommend glue compressor as it has a ho filter side chain
(FYI Andy probably did this in the analog domain )
These are his exact settings on analog hardware.
@@GreenLightSound then he uses analog insert side chain detection Way too fast attack and auto is too slow for a masterbuss but sure