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If you've ever heard of engineers using mix buss compression to "glue" their tracks together but have no idea what that means or how to do it - this video is for you.
But many people mis-use mix buss compression and it actually makes their mix WORSE with it on, not better.
Today I'll break down my exact settings for using mix buss compression the right way so you get a punchier, more exciting, but still natural sounding mix!
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Everyone mixing at home needs to watch this, several times... it's all about subtlety, retaining dynamics, natural sound... slow attack, minimal threshold... excellent job, we need more videos like this out there.
Yea. This helped me a lot.
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Dude this is the first video of yours I've seen and you are easily one of the best CZcams instructors on plugins because you don't rush your words. You explain everything concisely without making dumb jokes. You zoom in on the plugin so we can see what you are doing. The zoom in is very clear. At the same time you don't linger on the same point forever making your video a perfect speed to learn with. I'm checking out your videos for the next few hours and keep putting up more good context. Dude from New York City.
This is Graham
Graham's the man fam
those unprocessed tracks sound better than my completed mixes
Lol
🤣👍🏻
We worked hard on Em!
That's the key, the best mixes are made with amazing recordings.
😂😂😂😂bro who you telling
I own and use the SSL bus compressor quite regularly, Slower attacks & fast release is just one approach. True, It preserves the internal dynamics of the track. But the SSL also can grab transients with faster attacks too for that "glued" pop sound. I use .3 attack all the time and adjust the threshold so it only kisses the transients. Auto release is quite incredible too. As far as mixing into the SSL, yes slow attack fast release. But I seldom do that anymore because the SSL narrows the image so much sometimes that its difficult to differentiate a tonal imbalance in an instrument or an loudness imbalance. Things get squashed together nicely but normally small corrective moves have to be multiplied and exaggerated to hear them. It can get hairy. Bypassing it after mixing into it for a day can be downright scary.
So far, you talked about things that are hairy, kissing, and screwing up a mix- who's the scary one, the SSL compressor or you?
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Where can I get the SSL compressor
@@toreywilliams6760 Sweetwater. It's about 1k cheaper than when I bought it.
@@elonthebass6870 lol, I think you misunderstood my comment in saying that the person was trolling like an amateur. There haven't been any actual yuppies since the 80s, so you might wanna update your insults...
This is one of the simplest, clearest explanations of compression I’ve seen! Thanks man!
Drummer of 20 years & 10 years of Jazz piano but new to production and new to your channel. Finding some really great tips. Thank you!
Half way in and I've already learned some useful tips for this on my mix and it's sounding much better than when I was messing about blind not knowing anything about it! many thanks!
I like your videos. I've always been solid at mixing. And for the most part , I do all the same things you do. But your Master Buss EQ , & Compression tricks were really useful. I thank you for that. Subtle , and makes a big difference.
Another mixing save from Graham! I've been following your stuff for years and have learnt a ton, sir. Thank you!
Thanks for the video Graham, i have just tried this on my latest piece that , to be fair, was near completion, but i stripped it back and removed all the effect plugins, in other words, started from scratch using MIX BUSS COMPRESSION and OMG!!!! the result is fantastic, it might be subtle as you call it but it is anything but!!!!! My track has more width, more punch, more air and sounds great. I have added some EQ and Compression in parts to a few of the tracks (NOT ALL!) and the final result is i have managed to remix my track from scratch to completion and mastered in the space of about an hour!!! Personally, i think it is the best mix etc that i have done so far!!!!!! It also has help me sort some "go to" plugins now that i will use from now on!!!!!!!! Graham, THANK YOU!
Also one of my favourites, use it all the time..my defo go to bit of kit. Makes absolute sense to bring it in a the start of the mix. Hate to say it but never thought of that. I tend to use it at the end of the mix with similar settings, subtle like. Yep one of Graham's previous vids. Keep 'em coming Graham. Keep 'em coming..
The very first Best mixing lesson of 2019!! Thanks, Graham
Man! this is the best and I mean THE BEST explanation of how to use the SSL comp on CZcams.
Period
Big ups to you man!
Man, this has helped me calm my peaks so much. Thanks for the great content!
All solid advice here (as usual)!! I'm linking this video as a detailed complement to my super summarized video version on this topic, many people will appreciate it! Thx
I think this is a massive magical change, I've never used a mix buss compressor and today I followed this tutorial for one of my old recordings. Dude the difference is huge!. Up to this point, every time I listened back to my recordings I always felt the need to crank up the volume, it was specially painful when you do the "conversational volume" test. With this little trick here, I can hear all the details of my mix at a low volume. Well, maybe he is right, because I'm also applying other good practices in mixing and recording so they added up, this was maybe that little extra detail my mixes needed. I have so much to learn.
Nice, yeah it sounds like it’s maybe mostly just that you’ve done a good job and having a break from it has helped you appreciate it
Great explanations again, thanks Graham for explaining everything so nice!
I love this plugin, probably one of my best buys! Great video as always Graham.
''buy''
This is the best instruction I've found on this topic! Brilliant! I've now watched several of your videos and I'm very impressed.
Thank you, from your new subscriber!
Such a complete and perfect video. Answers also different other questions I had. Thank you!
Nice results, very subtle but you definitely feel and get with jive of the instruments.
Thanks for the tutorial.
90% of all i know about audio engineering is from you. Thanks for another year, bless :)
Great stuff man... Learning all the time... Much appreciated.... Thank you
great video bro... I've learned so much these past 2 years with you. much more than I learned at full sail. lol
Hi. As to my knowledge, mixing is the process of establishing musical balance, spectral blance, space. If you mix into master bus compressor you get the unbalanced mix which the compessor "hides" behind it (they call it "glueing"), additionally introducing uncontrolled (triggered by whatever track got louder now) distortions on the sum of tracks, which may not be that obvious with such a subtle compressor as he SSL MBC one, still. Master bus compressor was introduced on mixing consoles to check how it shall sound after being squashed with post-processing on e.g. radio, or to do mastering AFTER the mixing stage is complete. It is not meant for mixing itself.
So what would be better to use on your mixbud
Wow! Excellent! Thanks for such a clear explanation, going straight to the point with examples on which we can really hear the differences and with a process that makes sense and we can use. Thanks! Now I finally understand what people mean by glue compression.
Excellent well explained tutorial Graham...Cheers
Very useful and now I will use this technique in my mix. Thanks 👍🏻
Two thing I really appreciate are the video editing and the comparative teaching (good and bad practices).
A splendid video, you're a great teacher.
Thank you.
Good morning dear friend !! Thank you very much I been learning a lote from your channel
wow I've been using mix bus compression for a few years now but I've never thought to put it on early in the mix like you have instructed. I was always taught to avoid putting any processing on your mix bus untill the very end stage of your mix, but what you said makes sense. I might have to try this out.
I’ve never done this as I’ve also heard it’s not desirable but it may be it’s kinda genre dependent. The material he’s starting with falls into a very, real live band recording together, very 70’s style. It works with these genres well because 1 this technique was used on nearly all the hits you remember from that era and 2 because nearly all of the producers of that material used this technique or some similar variation. It’s questionable how effective this technique is with more modern or styles of music and recording techniques. I’m still going to try it though. Maybe it’s that it just works great for certain material but not all.
Yeah, I don't agree with him on that at all.
Waves G Master for the win! It's on every single one of my master buses. Great video, reaffirmed my workflow, thank you!
Do you put it on busses earlier in the chain? Like drum bus or vocal bus?
Love the song, makes me wanna drive down the highway somewhere
yeah, it's gonna be stuck in my head all bloody night, lol.
Yeah this reminds me of a Bob Seger/Kings of Leon vibe. Nostalgic vibe well done 👍🏽
Thanks for the love on the track everyone 🤟
Does anyone know where I can find this song??
Great info Mr. G... Much appreciated
I love this plugin. Thanks for the tut.
Great tutorial Graham!
Omg, This really helped out alot! Thank you beautiful man!
so relaxing to the ears
I am at the point where I was starting to question the effectiveness of adding compression at the end. This video helped me verify my suspicions.
This was very helpful. Thank you.
Very insightful video, thank you!!
Hiphop producer here.. Thank you Graham for another great compression vid, helps a lot.
Awesome, nice Top Down mixing strategy!
Brilliant video. Thank you for the insight!
Thanks for the video and pdf, very helpful 👍👍👍
"No mixing trick should give you massive magical change" - So so true, thanks for the great video!
real awesome explanation , thanks man
Thank you so much! I learned a lot more about compression and how I was doing it wrong.
You could also create a group the tracks and see if you need to add or subtract volume at the track level. The point is you can create several alt and sub mixes so that you can toggle between two instances of the mix.
this is crazy good and informative.
I've been searching for a video like this for weeks . Great way of breaking it down simply and easily thanks man
Very helpful lecture, thanks
My goal for this year is to challenge myself to make 4 eps. 6 tracks at most and 4 tracks at minimum. I am going to release 1 EP every 3 months. I'm not the best yet at singing/engineering which is one reason I am doing this challenge. Thanks all!
You got this!
I subbed to your channel to support your cause. Good luck!
@@DeceptiveSS thank you so much! I'll sub to you too
Alright then! I'm waiting!!
@@doyi984 thank you so much! can't wait to get there
Very good video
I also believe with many "tools" for mixing even mastering to acually use certain things while doing it
Indeed an amazing tip,thanks a lot
Very cool, great tips
Great video! Thanks!
Thanks, this helped a lot!
Great Video! notice also a very nice improvement in the vocal sitting better.. Thank u
Great Video, very helpful! And man I love this song ...
Thanks man! It’s under Redwood Honey “six strings and me” on Spotify
@@SamHaiman Cheers mate! I know, it was running in my playlist all the time by the end of last year! Really love the vibe of the record ! Great piece of music
@@ThePanchomack hell yeah man!
Awesome video, thanx!
This video is the best on SSL compressor for glueing tracks nicely. It sounds great when you make small adjustments and not killing the transients.
Thank you so so so much for this video
wonderful demonstration
Very helpful, thank you.
Thank you for teaching me my man, thank you!
Great video thanks!!
I'm starting to put mix bus compression and eq on just after doing a basic mono fader up mix, with perhaps some automation and subtractive eq. Then go and eq and compress/saturate and add extra automation to individual channels afterwards.
I'm liking the results.
Interesting. I’ll have to try this. Can I ask why you said “compress/saturate” together like that? Is there a reason to put them in that order?
Graham, I enjoy your channel a great deal and I think you have a lot of interesting ideas/concepts. My only critique is that quite a few of your videos could be a considerably shorter. I don’t seem to make it all the way through most of your videos. I’ve figured out why and thought I would share: the videos are too long (e.g. the title says something like “My 3 Best Reverb Tricks” and yet the video is 12 minutes long 😬).
Anyway, there’s plenty of viewers who would disagree with that (and I’m not saying they’re wrong) but, for someone like me who is usually looking for a specific answer to a question it can be frustrating skipping around looking for it, that’s all. Love your channel and all the work you share with the world. Thank you!
Maybe watch them at 1.5x like I do.
That's Beautiful 💯 thank you
Thank you, very clear
Graham, I would love for you to check out the Joey Sturgis bus glue stuff. They are incredible..
wonderful tutorial thanks
Very informative video. Thank you very much! Would you recommend a compressor with colour like Successor to be on 2 bus or always recommend to use cleaner comp like SSL type VCA comp for 2 bus duty? Thanks.
Interesting. Some people (like the Sage Audio channel) advise to rarely, if ever, have mixbus or master compressor/limiters with release less than 50ms. Reason is that, if there’s sub-information down to roughly 20hz, the quick release will create distortion. I’ve always used the fastest release and slowest attack, but I’m starting to reconsider. Would love your take on this.
How does it sound to you. If you're making heavy rock or trap with lots of energy maybe the distortion gives you a feel
Ok so will u do a video on the mix buss plugin chain so like how u stack and where u place comp eq, tape, ect ? In what order
WOW now THIS was helpful!
beautiful lesson bro,i cant hear that good anymore,
Upon your recommendation I bought the Greg wells mix concentric, how will this work with this SSLMIX BUS Consol or are they to be used one or the other ?
used
Thanks Graham!
Great and helpful
Nice song!
By subtle, you mean AWESOME, don't you, Graham? C'mon ... you know what I'm talkin' about. Right? So, I grabbed my headphones, and I gotta tell ya, it really rounded out the mix. It's fuller, much more airier, and tonally wider. For this song, in particular, you should want to invoke the emotion of wide open spaces. Now ... I do have a question: could a saturation plugin achieve something similar to this? I've been experimenting with saturation on my drum buss, and it does improve the overall performance. But, I've not yet tried it in a mix-down situation. Thanks again for sharing your thoughtful insight.
Hi Mr. Cochrane, thanks so much for this helpful video! I have a case where I'm using this particular compressor in mastering. Now, the gain reduction only happens on the loudest parts of the song. So for make-up gain, should I match at the loudest part of the song, or elsewhere in the mix, to make sure the rest of it isn't too much louder?
Thanks. Should we start doing this before any stereo widening or editing?
The SSL from Waves is what I use as well. It is the best on the master buss!!!!!
I love your videos, and apologies if this question has already been asked. Does it matter where in the mix bus the compressor is placed (ie, the first slot or the last slot)? Thanks in advance!
Ive been doing it all wrong....thanks for this... This is the sound I’m going for
Many many engineers do most of the mix first before adding the buss comp....it is up to you, there is no right and wrong, just what sounds good
never thought of applying it before, great tip man! :)
but what if you do make changes on the volume while mixing through eq, effects and after mix volume adjustments? doesn't it affect the compression and falsify the prior approach?
Always gain match. If you’re making something louder you will like it more. ALWAYS. So don’t do that. Take the quietest thing in the mix and then balance everything to that. When you apply effects. Turn down the gain to make it match.
any chance your going to show this soon fully mixed? i interested to hear what you do with the drums and this guys voice?
AWESOME THANK!!
You said “you’re using the compression to turn down the peaks..” Aren’t you in effect relatively turning up the peaks (?).. because the slow attack is letting the peaks through and then compressing (reducing) the audio after that moment until the next peak hits. This would in effect emphasize the attacks resulting in a punchier sound emphasizing transients.
holy shit that's a good point, I want a response
What if I’ve already got a bunch of plugins on my mix already? Should I turn everything off and do this, or just add it at the end?
非常感谢！
Great tips. Watching this it made me think one could use the compressor as a measurement tool to see if a loud element needs some adjustment.
So do you mix with master compressor on? I do not know if I sould use limiter or compressor on master channel and mix with it on or should I mix without any compressor or limiter on master channel and use it only in mastering stage? Please let me know. Thanks.
Might be weird, but for the music that I write (emo, pop rock, punk) I generally like to have my buss compressor doing anywhere from 4-8 dB of gain reduction. It definitely depends on the song, but for the more upbeat songs, I feel having 4-8 dB of gain reduction helps to bring more punch. But that's why I love music and audio so much. It's all pretty subjective.
I think your buss compression in this sounds great for the song. My opinion is that it's all about serving the song. What will help the song be better to me and/or my clients?
too much compression _kills_ punch.
Thank you very much for this tutorial. I have a question. How could I have so much more glue than this?