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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- The Toronto Raptors have an opportunity to essentially re-claim their draft pick in this year's NBA draft. Ben Rogers breaks down the reports about how Toronto could trade their way back into the lottery for this year's draft.
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One thing people need to realize. Is the picks are not as valued this year by other teams. Especially a team like okc or Memphis. They both already have a very young good core. They don’t need to add more younger players. But we do. Trade yak. Tank for 2025. AND add whatever talent you can from 2024 draft because other teams don’t value these pics as much as 2025/2026. So the picks are easier to acquire. Plus Masai can find talent. There is talent. It’s just not super star stacked
Let's tank when the NBA does not reward the tanking teams in the draft Lottery... Let's make IQ, SB and RJ want to leave this dumpster fire- huh? Let's just turn into Detroit North. Raps 30th anniversary is next season and MLSE has events and celebrations planned for the entire season plus merchandise to sell- I don't think tanking aka stanking is on the menu.
@@IceManLikeGervinyou are slow
Why tank when you can try for a playoff run and give our young players experience?
@@danieldasilva4221 what's the purpose of trying to get in the playoffs knowing you have 0% chance to even make it to the 2nd round. That would be a waste of a season. I'll take my chances tanking to try and get Cooper flagg
@@Gootygoblin Because the play off experience in Scottie, RJ and Quick and Dick is more valuable than a tank for draft picks
doubt they take brown for the 9th pick. they would probably want jak if they took anyone. i wouldn’t even mind it. lets just tank man. we got the clinic for now. maybe we can scoop Edey later 😯
Brown and 19 for #9. I think you could trade Jakob next season at the deadline for a first round.
no one is giving you the 9th pick for bruce brown. maybe the 9th pick in the shanghai league lottery.
@@giovanni-ed7zqare you not reading? Bruce Brown and the 19th Pick for the 9th pick
@@blessingjay8076 memphis dont need or want bruce brown. memphis primary need is a rim protecting defensive center. so why would they trade for bruce brown when they need a center? go look at bobby marks videos on what each team needs.
@@blessingjay8076 you are not looking at the big hole on the memphis grizzlies and their greatest need.
@@blessingjay8076still no one is doing that, Bruce brown is not a win now difference maker lmao
You realize the Raptors are a play-in or could be playoff team currently as constructed, if coached right. Barnes, Poeltl, Quickley and RJ. They just have to re-arrange everyone else and add tons shooting and rebounding. Let Gary go, trade Boucher & Brown, use the draft picks & free agency to add rebounding & shooting.
I am half with this and half not. If we were to do that, how on earth we go from play in / Playoffs to top of the conference contending for titles? We traded off our guys to be mediocre and mediocre is also the outlook of the team. Odd spot to be in
We got 6 guys worth any note, if you going to rise you are going to need 10 because when you start climbing you don't get new talent in the door to trade or build with. You are essentially saying this is the team we go chasing rings with plus some miracle signings like TJ Mconnels of the world and such. We wouldn't have much worth getting a true PF with and some actual role players off the bench beyound GD and ageing Olynyk
you trade jakob poeltl and tell the team to play hard and try to make the playoffs while getting a high pick is best move for 2025. jakob poeltl already publicly said he doesnt want to be on a rebuilding team after leaving spurs. jakob he wants to compete for championships at his age and raptors are not that.
there is no good free agents coming to toronto, so forget that fantasy.
Let’s run it back with this roster. Stay healthy and avoid tanking. Hopefully Masai can move Brown and McDaniels. Get either Bey or Oubre in FA and let GTJ walk. They Also need a veteran point guard off the bench like Brodgon.
JV is a free agent. Why would they trade for poeltl when they can get JV for cash and keep the pick?
Good draft to stock up on picks, no one seems thrilled with the choices but must be a few gems in there
Bro.. I can always depend on you for upto date. Stuff.
Thx Bro. God bless you my brother. Let's get this done Masai.. No Tankig though bro.. We Play to win the game
I'm thinking maybe Brown and couple of future second rounders for the MEM FRP is the offer to get the bid. Grizz are gonna love the fit.
no shot man. grizzlies dont need bruce brown, they need a center. its doubtful raptors just get the 9th pick also, they may have to give memphis their 19th pick in a jakob trade.
the only 9th pick you get for bruce brown is out of the shanghai league.
@@giovanni-ed7zq not worth if is 19th pick is involved
@@giovanni-ed7zq that's the only dude they get. draft aint strong enough.
@@realshehrkhan nah 2nd rounders is not gonna get you the 9th pick. memphis doesnt need bruce brown also. the greatest primary need on the memphis grizzlies is getting a big defensive rim protecting center. go look at bobby marks videos on the needs of every team. you gonna be waiting a years for bruce brown trade to memphis to happen lol.
Hell no. Keep Jacob at all costs.
@ben rogers you want that 9th pick for poeltl, you are not getting brandon clark in the deal. its gonna be kennard and zaire williams as the filler from grizzlies.
Tanking risks scottie barnes wanting out
scottie barnes cant even create his own shot yet because he cant ball handle. so scottie barnes isnt even a number 2 option. right now scottie barnes is like a utility player like a draymon green. if raptors find a true number 1 option that can create his own shot and put up 30ppg plus in the draft, and scottie barnes wants out, its fine we can trade barnes for 4-5 unprotected 1st while continuing to rebuild.
@@giovanni-ed7zqbro shut up
@@giovanni-ed7zq 😂😂😂
@@zachvoi1340 look at it this way, if raptors draft a true number 1 option that can create his own shots and put up 30ppg. then they dont have to pu pressure on scottie barnes to be a lebron or curry, and he can just settle into his more natural role of utility player like draymon green.
@@giovanni-ed7zq💯
Ujiri will not make anymore moves this off season unless it moves a needle for the raps to make a playoff run..
@benrogers this is how you teach young players character and to play hard even if they are gonna lose because of the talent gap after trading jakob poeltl. that way when the team is ready to compete in 3-4 years, in those games they are getting blown out, they can still play hard and have a chance to come back and win. that is how champions are created.
We could include the 19th or 31st overall pick in a trade as well.
this is what the trade is 9th pick and kennard and zaire williams, for poeltl and the 19th pick and 31st pick.
It's a Longshot on teams trading for those 2 players for top 10 pick in weak draft.Next year draft is better.
BB and our first for 9
Why is everyone trying to trade Yak? He’s too dam good. Y’all hatin
to bottom out the raptors for 2025 cooper flagg while getting a 2024 9th pick from memphis. raptors rebuilding so dont need jakob poeltl. also jakob poeltl said publicly he didnt leave spurs to come to another rebuilding situation, and wants to contend for championships at this point in his career.
Not sure Mem would say yes but Jakob and Boucher for the 9th, Clarke, Koncher and Zaire Williams would work. Tor would probably need to add a future pick tho
you will be getting jakob and 31st pick for kennard and zaire willams and 9th pick
@@giovanni-ed7zqur not the gm shut up
Please draft Bronny so when lbj retires in a couple of years they can teach these young guys how to be super stars.
Not a bad idea
@benrogers memphis need a center and not bruce brown. and the way the salary match works, memphis can only trade for jakob poeltl. it makes sense for raptors as they get the 9th pick and they bottom out for cooper flag in 2025. they wont be tanking legitimately they will be so bad without jakob poeltl they will be a bottom 5 lottery team. so its a win win for raptors and memphis. and its not tanking if you trade jakob, the raptors will be so bad they will lose without the yak, but the coach will enstill them to play hard regardless while lossing.
I think Jak is the only guy that teams will be interested in…
I think the market may be bigger than we think for Bruce Brown, we've seen the impact he can have for contending built teams that have a good-great starting 5. He did it in Brooklyn and he was the 6th-7th best player for Nuggets on that title run. The problem is the contract and the poor shooting which could honestly look better coming off the bench as more of a complimentary piece for a team like the Clippers, Bucks, Celtics etc.
Jakob Poetl might be a tougher sell given how limited of a player he is. If he weren't a 7 footer the market would look a lot worse for him as there are at least 10 -15 non all star centers that are better than him right now. The best fit for him would be Memphis, OKC. Ideally you'd want to trade him to the West because giving him to a team where he'd be way better like Boston would be too dangerous. OKC have the money to take on his contract and probably too many draft picks to know what to do with (perfect for a trade package). They could move Chet to the 4 and get back some of the size they're lacking in the front court at the moment. Not to mention Chet being able to play the 4 would allow him to be healthier and even allow for better spacing (kinda what was seen with Minesotas twin tower line up of Gobert and KAT)
Okc would pass on poetl but might take a swing at him if they can’t get a big in the draft
Grizzlies aren’t giving up Clark
I’m Targeting Orlando + Pelicans + Memphis For a Bruce brown or Jakob Poetl Trade Destination’s 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
We ain’t tanking yall tripping
Gotta love when your home town team fans over value there players. Bruce Brown is not gonna get you moving up the draft. Yak could do it though but Raps would def be a lottery team next season.
Poetl + BB + 31st pick overall for 9th overall + protected 2025 FRP + salary filler. Who says no?
why not trade for michael jordan instead?
What salary filler is gonna be 45 million😭😭
@@Shantiomari there is no bruce brown, these guys just throwing bruce brown in there. its only jakob poeltl
@@Shantiomari bruce brown and boucher going to goldenstate for andrew wiggins
Yeah ur right Steven Adam’s is “probably” out of the picture. Considering he doesn’t play for Memphis anymore and is on the rockets.😂 anyways great vid Ben 👏🏼
If we land Clingan at 9, we are set
Who we trying to acquire; Nikola Topic?
You have Barnes RJ Grady Bouchée (who needs to play)
Resign Quickly and Olynic.
Trade Brown Portlr and Agbaji
You then would just need a starting 3nD C a 3nD 6’9+ length SF and a back up 3nD long PG/SG.
If Barnes is your #1 you just need good role piece’s
Which you can get in the draft off season signing and a trade
Keep us updated bruh bruh! Although you had questionable takes the last two years.
Send Jakob or Bruce for that Grizz pick
perfect trade proposal:
Raptors get: Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke, pick 9
Grizzlies get: Jakob Poeltl and Bruce Brown
1 could only hope lol
@@Adam-um6iu me too, this team needs a top 10 pick and both Brown and Poeltl have been awful in my opinion
@@mxtthewcx8 The #9 pick is no better than #19 in this draft. Poeltl has not been awful...
@@IceManLikeGervin 9 and 19 are very different in this draft but sure, and yes poeltl has been awful in my opinion. he couldn't hit a free throw, he was really bad on the defensive end in so many possessions all season and his rebounding is not the best for a 7'1 center
@@mxtthewcx8 This Poetl take is too bad to debate, its just that stupid
Bruce Brown would be much more valuable to a team contending Memphis who aren’t as bad as their record because of injuries. His contact is valuable because teams can decline the team option and create $22 million. This is a value able asset.
memphis needs a center not bruce brown. you lucky to get a 2nd round pick for bruce brown. you not getting a 9th pick for brown.
CODY Williams is the Target at 9 .. He is going to be good He knows the game well and His brother has given him a head start about being successful on the Nba.
At 6th 100% but I expect him gone by 9. Unfortunately
its cody williams, collier, or missi
Just draft Bronny!
Tanking does not work ever
Just ask Philly who tried it with top picks over the last ten years.
this dosen't make any sense, unless your getting rid of Poetl for Zach and they beleive he be going top 10 because of the combine debacle fine...other than that top 10 -20 next two years (2025-2026) draft will be golden for this team.
ESPN mocks Castles to go 9th - I would love to flip Jak for Castles, he will be an important player one day in the NBA. They also mock Edey to go the Heat @15 - the Heat could use a guard like Brown to bolster their bench, maybe moving up to flip Brown is an option. Nix Claxton is a FA, that is always an option.
no one is gonna give you a 1st for brown. you lucky to get a 2nd round pick for him a this point. memphis needs a center so they may be willing to give their 9th pick for jakob poeltl for raptors 19th pick with matching salary going to raptors.
@@giovanni-ed7zq just spit ballin' meathead. And never say never, maybe a bigger package is involved
Who would we be looking to take at number 9 pick that would warrant this trade? Maybe we should just try to work the free agency market since we have more financial flexibility and move some of the extraneous pieces we have. I wouldn’t mind trying to acquire some more talent like Malik Monk, Miles Bridges, Kelly Oubre, Nick Claxton… These could be great additions that we can grow faster with. I don’t think it’s ideal for us to try to tank again. Not good for the culture of the team.
free agents dont want to come to toronto thats why. those players only come to toronto if you pay them the max. raptors have to overpay if they want any free agent.
its likely if raptors trade for 9th they targeting collier, yves missi or cody williams
If they're going to tank again they should at least sign JAVALE MCGEE for some entertainment
no man give taco fall a 1 year nba contract.
tank the process
if they trade jakob poeltl, its legitimately not a tank. team will suck and be bottom 4 where they will lose without having to rest players.
Memphis Gets - Jakob Poeltl, Jalen McDaniels, 31st 2024 Pick
Toronto Gets - Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke, 9th 2024 Pick
no man you not getting 9th pick and brandon clark. you will be getting 9th pick and kennard and zaire williams and jakob poeltl and 31st pick going to memphis.
@@giovanni-ed7zq Thats good too
Trade Yak for #9 draft Edey
WHAT? You even watch Basketball?
Why?
We can’t lose bro we don’t have the luxury of an American market… if players have to play in Canada and they stink? Yeah. That’s a good recipe for trade requests.
Memphis needs a big. Poetle to memphis for 9th pick and salary filler.
Yak for 9 straight up and we take back 2 garbage salaries and help Memphis get under the cap
We should trade Jakob back to The Spurs for our pick back lol
it's amazing how many of these comments are from people who have their ass on display in their profile pic lol... anyway - we don't know shit, let head office do their jobs and stop chirping
Let's trade Poeltl and have SB playing next to PFs just like Siakam was pre Poeltl trade... not. Raps need to keep Poeltl and let SB, RJ, IQ, JP develop some chemistry together. Now if Memphis will take Brown and Boucher for #9 and filler then go for it.
nah jakob wont be around when raptors ready to contend, he will be too old. draft a center and let scottie develop chemistry with developing center.
you lucky to get a 2nd round pick for brown and boucher.
the goal is trade yakob and draft a center for scottie to develop with. team will be bad and lose and raptors get a 2025 top 5 pick. see where the raptors are in 2026 to see what they want to do.
@@giovanni-ed7zq Raps may never contend again, friend. Indiana, Orlando, Utah, Sacramento, New Jersey, Memphis, Minnesota have all been in the NBA longer than Toronto and haven't won a NBA title. Stop thinking on 2019. The Raps need to get back to being a winning franchise like they were from 2013-2018 without a NBA title.
@@IceManLikeGervin doesnt really matter your hot take. only way raptors can build a team is through draft, and the higher the pick the better.
you have to accept reality, masai said raptors are in rebuild and they are not 1 year events. masai even said they can be 6 years.
Poeltl is superior to the number nine pick.
Didn’t we acquire Poeltl to address our need for a center and to appease Pascal? The biggest issue is our flip flopping FO. We sign Poeltl for 20 when he’s worth about 13-15 but was worth it to keep Pascal…THEN WE FN TRADE OUR FRANCHISE PLAYER FOR BRUCE BROWN….this drives me crazy to this day. Take GSW as a template Masai rather than trying to be the trend. Build around your loyal star while developing a younger core. Scottie should’ve been told to shut up, quit whining and learn from the all-nba talent that’s here to show you the ropes. RJ and IQ could’ve learned from him too. Now what. Trade Poeltl for draft consideration…time to move on from Masai imo. His indecisions have been screwing us since 2019. This is a well documented fact.
Masai needs to redeem this Bruce Brown nonsense. Still pissed about Siakim rip off ….
trade brown boucher and poetl
First
This is just sad
Extend and trade Gary is an option. A lot of people think Memphis might draft a shooting wing to replace Kennard. Gary could do something like that.
Houston could be another team looking to move around in the draft.
The Jak move is interesting I had completely forgot Adam’s was traded to Houston but raptors would need to insure they have 2 centers coming in because they’re still short a backup and if you move jak now you have zero centers.
Jacob is worth a minimum 2 first round picks
Ummmmmmm
Do whatever we can to acquire Edey. He will be legendary.
Chill
@@truthseeker8139hes better than what people think
imagine the free throws he will have a game
@@handleforwhatyt as many as Embiid
Idk why everyone creams their pants for a rebuild it’s the same people who were then complaining when we sucked all year I think Scottie is a guy to build around I agree with that but do you want to put him in a losing culture? That would be 4 years with him and 1 playoff birth I think we all forget that we aren’t a free agendas destination and you can count on 1 hand the amount of players who wanted to stay here and play their whole careers here, I don’t wanna risk that with Scottie put him on even a semi competitive team early and we always draft well anyway, I think everyone is seeing the Thunder and wanting us to be that but the difference is look how much they got for their assets they tanked as a better team than we were our best assets are already gone not everyone can do that it’s not 2k
thats why you have to do a rebuild because its only way to build a team sustainably for the long term.
you hear the saying fire hardens steel. well some adversity will make scottie barnes more likely to reach his potential. also there is a chance raptors actually find a number 1 option who can create his own shot putting up 30ppg so scottie barnes can just go into the draymon role and not put pressure on himself to be a lebron or curry.
@@giovanni-ed7zq yeah but on the flip side we could tank again and not end up with even a top 3 pick I understand the rebuild but A. It’s not fun to watch a shit basketball team and B. Look at some teams that have been rebuilding and go absolutely nowhere for every rebuild that works there’s 5 that don’t and we might just end up tanking to basically be in the same spot we were just in like the 5-8 range every year
@@fuhyfelax8218 ya you can end up with 5th pick which is still good in a deep draft of 2025 and 2026. its not like you end up with a 2nd round pick if you dont get the top 3 pick. your logic is flawed. you have options drafting higher and have a chance at more players. OPTIONS is a good thing.
@@fuhyfelax8218 look at the thunder and how well their rebuild went. look at magic and how well their rebuild is going.
considering free agents dont sign in toronto, raptors cant build a team sustainably without getting high picks through the draft.
@@fuhyfelax8218 you trade jakob who doesnt want to be on a rebuilding team anyways, and he wont be around in 3-4 years when raptors are ready to contend, i believe raptors can be bottom 5
this draft sucks lol
Cooper flag is so overrated. Hes no luka so if i have to rely on his athleticism, im good. I wouldnt even take hin top 3
Why would you compare him to Luka? They don’t even play the same position or have remotely similar games. Do some research.
@@brandonb9978 why do you think i compared him to luka?
its all good, trade jakob poeltl in the summer, and see how good this squad is telling them to play hard every game to build character in 2025.
Please god let us trade up
trade up for who? Sarr, the 7 ft guy who rebounds worse than Bargnani?
We just go get Old 1st round Picks 😉 Give Killain Hayes a Shot as well as James Wiseman