900hp Cosworth XD is in the 1400lb chassis! We officially begin the Indycar Project!
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Im 100% convinced Rob is actually a robot working 24/7, there is no way he has time to sleep with all the work he is doing.
Cocane is a hell of a drug
Who sleeps nowadays
Power of Aderall
He runs on meth and caffeine
@@04dram04 100% without a doubt
Rob, a great idea would be too 3D scan/measure all the panels, because it's kinda inevitable some kind of panel will break and you're not going to be finding a replacement
Haas will have the diagrams , and so will cosworth if need be he can contact them and get any info they have which, do to the nature of this sport is still archived in the offices i sure they would be happy to help dahm
@@thatonenigeriansformula no guarantees about that, and haas??
@@thatonenigeriansformula Carl Haas is dead. Gene Haas has absolutely nothing to do with this car.
@@wingracer1614 the haas company bought lola the chassis builder , they have the documents
@@thatonenigeriansformula Not anymore. Till Bechtolsheimer bought the Lola name. Maybe Haas has some junk lying around but I kind of doubt it since at the time of this car, Haas was no longer the importer/distributor though he had been earlier. I suppose it's possible.
Make sure the engine is up to temperature before you crank it.
Yep. Even today they have engine heaters to warm them up before first fire at the race.
Agreed 200%, and if hes able to prime the oiling system before startup, even bettter.
@@Felix.Garcia Yep. Heat the oil and prime it on the starter motor until it gets oil pressure. The coolant has to be heated while being circulated with a pump before startup as well.
@@MX304 I would use a pressure tank, and prime the oil system with that before the first start, after it has sat for so long. Those engines will actually turn over harder than usual with no oil in the system after it has been allowed to drain out of every bearing after sitting for a long time. I wouldn't want to use the starter to re-prime it.
@@davelowets I just meant for normal operation. For his first fire up, yeah, I'd try to pressure prime it for sure. I have a feeling that engine is going to come all the way apart before he ever tries to run it though. Way too much risk of dirt and debris being in there after all these years. Plus you know damn well he wants to see what makes it tick.
On the wheel nuts, the proper sockets are machined on the inside close to the OD of the spindle itself so it depresses those detents while you’re removing the nut. Should be able to machine something if you ever wanted too
Yeah he could probably machine an insert that press fits into the socket he already has, or locks in with a set screw so he can remove it later if needed.
Skid plates are made of wood because they are regular consumables. Teams use the skid (and the wear on it) to regulate ride height tuning during the setup portion of an event weekend
Also, wood does't hold deformation. Wood will bend with the carbon fiber and return to original. Metal wouldn't work for this, it would bend and remain bent and carbon fiber will not work either because it's a brittle affair. Any person who has worked with CF knows the score. That's wh when you see people make CF panels with no screw helpers... you know they're not in the know. More modern variants use high density plastic inserts inside the CF to prevent such damage from occurring.
@@aserta iirc Hoonigan explained this for their honda indy truck build, pretty neat wood still gets a lot of use in modern racing.
Its a composite ply material made up of beechwood and resin.
Control blocks and there is a limit to how much you can scrap off…
@@mmonkeyman1403 plywood. Got it.
Was not expecting this so soon
The man wastes no time
We aren't used to that speed because the 4 rotor took so long
Well, he’s basically just reassembling it and noting down how everything was done, and that’s a lot less work than engineering everything in the first place.
Crazy to think I was around at the beginning of this project. One day when I have kids and you finish, ill be able to tell my kids stories about what life was like when rob started working on this car
🤣
😂
Project Binky would like a word
Louis Vandergrift was sole person to do all harness work in the team from 84-94 True craftsman, very meticulous. He lives in Los Angeles and still does work. Neat to see you undo this work all these years later.
He’s not undoing it, he’s simply “improving” it.
It's a necessary evil. There's not much documentation on these cars, so without schematics, you gotta be a little destructive.
I think him saying "undoing" equates to "reverse engineering". I'm unsure saying Rob is improving upon a sport expert's work on a world class machine is fair either.
@blakebednar3374; Certainly Rob requires a person which is properly trained and extensive experience with proper wiring especially with these MIL-STD, MIL-C connectors. In the LA area, there are many qualified, experts within the "Aerospace", Aeronautical assembly, with the necessary experience, expertise within Northrup-Grumman-TRW, Hughes Aircraft, Boeing [fmr McDonnell-Douglas] in Long Beach and others.
My work there was during 1982-93 within engineering, development, design, verification, certification, testing, assembly, etc.
@@jacobrzeszewski6527 @NitroNazi1 @dooby1445 You all clearly, obviously, certainly convey Your lack of knowledge.
A. Cosworth certainly has the schematics
B. there is not "reverse engineering' involved with tracing the wires - this is simply done with a ohm meter - no removal destruction, etc. is necssary
-> any basic assembler knows this
C. Rob is NOT an engineer, technician, proper mechanic - rather a previous computer programmer and car enthusiast
@Rob Dahm;
D. Rob does not know how to improve, only destroy, especially such high level machinery as this Indy racing vehicle. !!
Good Luck, Sincerely
@@newtonfirefly3584 wow you must be fun at party's ! , rob is taking an adventure most can only dream of, and plans on improving the design, likely requiring added conductors. like you, this indy became out of date by '95.
Man, I can't get over how tiny the engine is and how small the turbo will be, especially when we got used to seeing such comically large turbos for your dorito steeds in the stable.
Clearly You have a lacking with the basics of Indy, F1, 3, etc. engines. Current Indy engines are 2.2 L, V-6 from Chevrolet and Honda. The next planned is a 2.4 L, V-6.
Good Luck
@@newtonfirefly3584 clearly you didn't read his comment correctly he was comparing turbo sizes from Robs other cars like the 4 rotor which is a lot bigger then the Indy car turbo, clearly you lack basic reading skills, and Good Luck To You Good Sir
2.65 liter
@@newtonfirefly3584 try reading next time ! 🤣
@@newtonfirefly3584
Ever heard of reading? Try it.
Indy Race Cars use locked rear diff in case on tire blow out (and it happens a lot) the cars still can move foreword on one tire. So no, the gear box is not a lost cause (i hope).
I don’t know how they did it then, but these days it varies on if they’re on ovals or not.
@@haysee25 Yep. I think ovals they just use a spool but the road course diff is a mechanical limited slip with a lot of adjustments on the ramp angles, preload, etc. to get it behaving the way you want.
@@wingracer1614 Bingo
If by "locked rear diff" you mean spool then yes, for ovals. For road course use they run differentials.
Depends on what track it was ran on last... Can have a spool OR a limited slip diff in it...
back to back episodes here we goo
p.s. keep(s) the livery
He should sticker his own name on the car over the original driver's, imo. It's his now. Plus, it looks cool AF
All of your wheel nuts will tighten towards the front of the car, its a safety feature to ensure they do not come loose in a run. There are vendors to buy the keyed lug, we used Pegasus Auto Racing for a few of our parts & tools needs. Good luck!
November ends and he starts playing with big nuts, we see you Rob
Wouldn't it be crazy to work like this man and his friends, genuinely this is the things everyone wants to do, myself included. Although no one puts in the time and effort like Rob. You are an absolute idle for so many people, I hope one day I'll get to be doing the same stuff you do, everyday. Hope to get taught from the best himself.
you mentioning the dad thing warmed my heart way more than it probably should've right off the bat. i've been following for a while between a few youtube accounts here and there just cause im disorganized, but rob, thank you for every single upload and bringing a smile at the least, but even more importantly, a place for me to come relax. thank you so much for your content.
This project will propel the team to new highs. I'm excited to see this happen, but the hype for the next chronological project after this is even bigger. They will never be the same after this.
Stilllll waiting for rotory engine dyno content at westech with Richard Holdener. You guys want the same thing!
A friend of mine used to work in the cosworth factory in Northampton here in the UK, making parts for the Indy engines. I remember him telling me about the slide barrel throttle bodies on these..
This was back in late 90s, early 00s!
You know Rob is going to find every excuse, no matter how silly, to use that 'gatling' impact
It's big enough to use as a starter for the engine!
i would use it to open my house door
@@mikehipperson I wouldn't want to use an impact to start an engine... 😕
17:28 has me in TEARS Isaiah is a trip
So excited to see this project finally taking off. Can't wait to see what you guys do with this car!!!!!
Probably a straight weight 50 or 60 oil. Those engines have a warm up procedure before starting
Obviously, Clearly, certainly Your idea of the oil weight as that thickness is incorrect and false !! = NONSENSE -> just like Rob Dahm
They might use a single grade, perhaps SAE 30. Also they never use any commercial, 'brand name' oils, all from the One, Int'lConglomerate-StndOil-JDRockefellerFamily-"Elite", including Valvoline,Mobil,Exxon,Penzoil,Castrol,Motul,Kendall,Shell,QuakerState,BP,Sunoco,Texaco,Chevron,Unocal,ARC,Total[Elf], etc. and certainly the highest quality synthetic oil, lubrication within the engine, transmission, gears, bearings, etc.
@Rob Dahm; => Please take note and use the best available from Amsoil or at least RoyalPurple,JoeGibbs,Shaiffer's - NOT Your sponsor Valvoline-StndOil-Int'lConglomerate-"Elite" mediocre level quality -those oils will sheer and thus the engine will become damaged quickly - ask Cosworth, Butch, Mike Meyer Family for proper advice.
Good Luck, Sincerely
I learn so much about cars on this channel, but the best part is hearing you guys rib each other and to hear all the laughter you friends share... I'm jelly of you all, but thanks for this :) It helps me thru work, and kinda a lonely time rn... ty
keep your head up rayray! I've gone through that exactly. Its shitty but you got an internet friend in me!
I live for this sort of content! Getting too figure out all the top spec engineering from that era as you disassemble it! Loving the Indy Car content Rob! Please keep it up 👌🏼
The level of mechanics, design, engineering is far above anything Rob has seen or comprehends - listen to his ignorance - it is so clear, obvious, certain !!
These things are this complicated 30 years or so before. Just imagine how complicated the modern f1 and indycars will be...🤯😳..truly mind blowing
Love the banter back and forth with y'all 🤣
Reminds me a lot of me and my friends at my buddy's shop.
Can’t imagine why there was an 8 ball 🎱 I find it amazing how the whole car is built in modular sections and the rear differential housing is a structural part that holds the entire rear of the vehicle and houses the turbo. Genius for weight savings and part swapping.
I wouldn't be surprised if they put it in there as a nod to The Skid Factory. Al and Woody always "find" 8 balls in weird places as they take stuff apart.
Was not expecting a video today. But I’m happy it’s here
I have a 1972 formula vee with a turbocharged vw flat 4 pushing 400hp and 1100lb total it's a absolute blast to drive!
We're so blessed to have you do this series for us! I see no one better to autopsy this race car and share all its secrets with us. This is so bad ass! You do realize that you'll probably never have any chance of obtaining any more race cars after this as the teams would be too scared of all their secrets being exposed. The fact you're going to be running the actual powertrain from that car is so bad ass! Can't get enough of this series. Please keep on sharing and don't worry about the quality, we just want quantity. Hell, I'd pitch a tent in your shop just to watch you guys work. Are there any free security monitoring position opening soon?!
If You want to view a proper high level mechanic, engineer which knows properly how to handle these Indy, F1 vehicles and teach others, please see Casey Putsch, Butch, Mike Meyers Family, Legacy Autosports, Cosworth and others that are actually involved within these !!
Note: Rob actually thinks to use an inferior 'major brand' synthetic oil product in this Cosworth high level high performance, high speed engine, which they never would use, except the BEST available - NOT a sponsored mediocre and inferior product !!
@@newtonfirefly3584 you sure like to use the phrase "high level" don't you, you are very full of yourself and likely the last person someone would want to relax around, if you chill out a bit people might like you...
@@newtonfirefly3584 Valvoline makes the oil that the 4rotor uses, it does upwards of 1200hp, what makes you think that it won't make this "punny" engine work?
@@JohnWiku ignore this tosser (Newton), every comment he's made on this video is him knocking Rob and pretending he's some pro engineer and also claiming Rob knows nothing and will just destroy the car, also little does this blowhard realise, Valvoline is used worldwide in motorsports, it's not just some crappy everyday engine oil.
Also Valvoline is Australian and i am Australian so i take offence to his slanderous comment.
@@rjswas Agreed man!
Australia has the most beastly burnout cars ever, and I'm sure some of them run Valvoline oils.
Rob is using Valvoline oils for most, if not all his cars, which few of them are of higher performance than this Indy car will ever be.
No reason to say Valvoline won't work with the Cosworth engine
Rob was SO proud of himself for coming up with the "busting a nut, nut busting" line you could tell! Hilarious.
Between the 4 rotor and the Indycar, and the level of dedication you put into your craft, this is absolutely one of the most insane car channels, if not the #1. Keep doing what you're doing, Rob! You're a machine, man, an absolute force.
Important detail: Put the wheel nuts back on the stub axle please. The way the large tapered seat works requires the surface to be clean. Any debris on the seating surface of the wheel or nut will cause a false torque and when that grain of sand or grit turns to powder under load suddenly your wheel is loose and on its way to falling off. Having been a mechanic on everything from Formula Ford, Formula Atlantic, F2000 and Indy Car the rule about wheel nuts was always front and center. It applies to lug nuts as well BUT you have 4 or 5 and sometimes 6 nuts holding your wheel on so one that comes loose won’t try to kill you.
they have a few more pressing issues then that , but I love you Bryan C from Alex L STL , I'd almost help these guys with some consultant advice and steer them in some right directions but I would have to have a conversation with them first , or if they want to fly me out there , we almost bought this Lola before they did
I can’t stress this enough More Indy/f1 stuff !!!
If You want to see someone with proper knowledge with Indy, F1 see Casey Putsch no Rob Dahm !!
@@newtonfirefly3584 not a fan of Casey I see him at the race tracks I really don’t like him he’s not very nice despite his vids portrayal . Just personal opinion
I love this! Most highly anticipated build videos second only to the 4rotor. We've all been waiting for the Indy car to come alive!
With this high level machine in 'hands' and with Rob Dahm at the 'helm' this Indy car will be destroyed without recovery
@@newtonfirefly3584 why don't you mind your own business? no one care's about the bullshit you are spreading..
@@newtonfirefly3584 And you would have MORE of an idea how to do it? How about you DO something, instead of criticising others who attempt it?
@@davelowets Yes certainly, my approach, process, methods are far better as an engineer, mechanic, with extensive experience, expertise, knowledge, etc.
The general public 'enthusiast' as Rob and perhaps You too, lack the basics, are easily misled, misleading and not interested in knowing, following the proper information, knowledge, process, methods, ideas, concepts, principles, etc.
Good Luck
@@newtonfirefly3584 😆😂🤣😭
I don't need "luck".
Rob, this thing is rough and missing parts, but I know you're gonna have this thing running and driving better than it ever could have hoped of in the 90's.
When you were talking about being enamored with the Indy car and the amazing 4 rotor being right behind you, I was thinking of some of my first motor sport interest came from the turbo Indy cars of the 80's and 90's. Cars like this one are what inspired so many people to make cars like the 4 rotor. What you have learned from the Indy car and what you will learn from it is amazing and will be amazing. Absolutely love that you are sharing this wonderful opportunity wit the world.
This is the most fascinating, coolest video you've published yet. Thank you for this.
Rob can do anything, be anything. He really is a “mad scientist” in a way.
I worked as a tig welder/fabricator for Prince Racecar Engineering for 5.5 years. Made lots of a-arm's for early Indy's. Also copies of carbon a-arms in chromoly.
As a current indycar mechanic, this was delightful to watch. Thank you lol
Yes! Keep the videos coming Rob, great job!
I just want so say what has made me watch every video of robs is he explain everything he’s doing. Keep up the good work boys
I can't wait to hear this thing run and see how it performs with the modern turbo. It's going to be rowdy lol.
I appreciate how honest the crew is!
DOPE DOPE DOPE!!!! Definitly looking forward to see how this project turns out. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
If you need information on the Cosworth XD engine, you could try talking to Nicholson McLaren, here in the UK. They rebuild Cosworth XD's to run N/A on petrol. So they'll know a thing or two about them.
Maybe the start of one of the craziest individual car builds on youtube, go ROB such an inspiration.
I can't wait till this is rotary powered!
Whats amazing is that the mechanics and engineers that worked on this car in a weekend , could compeltely rebuild this thing in a matter of hours maybe even minutes
I’m truly blown away at how little you guys know about how a race car chassis is put together and yet here you are doing it!
Cannot wait for the completion just awesome getting a chance to work on the Indy car and the Cosworth are a super rare commodity.
You must have lots of trees there, always busting nuts and playing with wood,big project there mate,fun to be had, love the channel and keep it up mate cheers 🇦🇺🍻🍻
I am so stoked for this project!
milwaukee stubby impact combined with their electric rachet is by far my favorite tool combo
Simply amazeballs. So simple but so complex. Love seeing this stuff.
If there was a Best Banter championship, I think you guys would be winning it for the third year running about now.
The car is okay too I guess :P
Looking forward to seeing what other secrets you uncover along the way!
So motivational and takes all of my attention keep it up. Watching makes me forget all my diagnoses
Please do get some sleep, I know what it is to be consumed by a new project. Especially something like this, its so cool!
so complex and yet it all makes so much sense. everything has a purpose and no expense is spared. that throttle body is astonishing to me.
can't wait to see it running! I love Indycar.
Good to see that no matter the level of performance, there’s always a little jank to it (ie velcro on the exhaust)
wild that i got goosebumps seeing the motor mounted. hyped to see the end result
I really want to see this machine alive !!! Love your content !!! Keep making this nice videos !!
Awesome Video Rob, really like your methodology!
I'm confident in saying Rob has big things coming to us in the future he doesn't even know about yet. This guy has endless potential.
"That's a design choice." Thank you for inspiring a diplomatic way to address concerns during code reviews.
We watch this because Rob is doing almost exactly the same thing we would do if we had the time and money.... love this channel 👍
This is the best content dude, just giving a guided tour of the teardown with minimal editing and no music... super chill.
So stoked for this project!!!!
I recommend dipping your de pinner in alcohol. With older connectors, they get difficult to push the de pinner all the way in. I also recommend using a punch to lightly push on the pin to test to see if the de pinner is all the way in before pulling on the wire.
Nuts! Fantastic insanity and really interesting with the Indy car archeological explorations!
Ed pink is still alive. You should talk to him about this engine rob. He still has a few in his shop in ca. his shop is getting ready to be moved also, you may be able to get some new old parts for it!:)
After a decade of working on the DP01 and DW12, I do not envy you or this project at all Rob, those things were a mechanical nightmare compared to what teams have today. Good luck, it'd be awesome to see this thing at GWF.
I did the drawing for the XD fuel rail while working at Cosworth many years ago. We should maybe talk to see if anything I can remember is useful to you.
The oil return line is badass on this thing
Can’t wait to see it finished
"That's just a driver's seat." is like saying your skeleton is just a pile of bones. The tub IS the car ( along with, secondarily, the stressed engine and powertrain ) ; It links the downforce loads to the 4 corners of the car, cornering moments throughout, while protecting the driver, the key electronics AND the fuel cell, carrying the front suspension and the control and steering components. The sidepod floor is just air management; the diagonal links are because the floor is always generating downforce, so the are in tension to transfer the force to the tub. As far as all the nasty surprises: you bought a show car. The team took a tub that may have been written off in a crash, took off all the gold rebuildables and replaced them with dummies ( engine , dampers ) , replaced key spares with irreparable takeoffs ( the upright ) and kludged on a few parts that would be noticeable in absence ( exhaust outlets ). As jealous as I am of what you're into, it is painful to watch just how clueless you came into this.
2 Parallel headers w/ a fancy spinny clutch (all open v. all closed). Makes me believe ur right that the ignition only uses two wires. Left side 🔥right side🔥
Love the work you guys do!!
Can't wait to see this one finished
How cool would that car look with a 4 rotor and the 787B-style livery on it?
That would be awsome. But instead of 4 rotor a big turbo 6 rotor
or a cosworth v8
That would be sick but it doesn't have enough room for more than 3 rotors, he has measured.
@@MrThunderCunt na ITB 6 rotor
big turbo is way to much power and band for it
Is the rotary motor sturdy enough? The Cosworth is holding 80% of the car together - only 20% is the bottom plate.
I watched this car come 13th at the Sunbelt IndyCarnival at Surfers Paradise when I was 11. Sick day👍
i work in the aerospace industry doing aircraft interiors and we use the same connectors as that spark plug harness on most of our harnesses
Magic 8-Ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shoutout to the Skid Factory !!!!!!! Al would be so proud to see that show up in its natural habitat
With spindle nuts you loosen it in the direction the wheel spins. that way it's always tightening itself
Can't believe so many likes on an incorrect comment. You TIGHTEN IT in the direction it spins.
That is why the LEFT hand side of the car (USA Driver's Side) has LEFT hand threads. Because as the wheel spins forward to the LEFT it is TIGHTENING.
Its really cool seeing the contrast between the precision machined carbon undertray and the incredibly custom metal parts compared to the regular kinda rusty steel angle beams in the frame
The rusty frame is only there to keep the car together until the engine and gearbox are installed.
I actual enjoyed seeing that 8 ball, as odd as it is… but I know a tech or driver way back when probably planted that there as a good luck momento, so you know there is a story on it.
And if they are watching this, and saw it roll it you know it made them giggle.
I remember when I worked at Toysport in the late 90’s. The owner had several Indy lite motors stashed in the back. 503e motors as well.
Jeez this engine is sooo complicated , now imagine a modern F1 engine , i am shaking my head in awe
The original Cosworth V8 of 1966 was the very first of its type to be dedicated for use as an F1 engine and also the first to be used as a structural member. Thanks to the expertise of Mike Costin and Kieth Duckworth together with the vision of Colin Chapman of Lotus, they set the bar high for every F1 car/engine combo since. This was also carried over into sports car and indy racing that every manufacture has tried to emulate.
@@mikehipperson i was wondering if the DFV is as sophisticated as this , i feel its early models were like road car engines and the later early 80s versions were more toned in and complex
That machine gun is the best nut buster around❗️
I've been making parts since my first weld arc when I was 10! That was 1990, 1996 I learned about miliong and lathe work (16 yes old). Plus Autocad at that time.
So when rob gets done with the builds I wanna see a drag race between the 4 rotor, vette, three rotor, and Lamborghini at either a drag strip or hoonigans runway
Yessssssssssss ive been waiting so long for this one
Love the Skid Factory reference there guys...
WOOO FRESH ROB DAHM! LET'S GOOO🤘
I find Rob's fascination with the wiring harness interesting. As someone that works in military aviation, I work with wiring like that daily.
@Rob Dahm A friend of mine for what ever reason has one of the indy car turbos. on a 6L V8 with the wastegate blocked the turbo would only create 6psi of boost. It was believed that the turbo was a power adder and only made boost when there was a load on the engine , aka 200MPH. your fancy new garret may actually prove to be unsuitable. perhaps size the exhaust housing like you would on a diesel and run without a wastegate. much appreciation for your efforts from the land of the long white cloud.
Man that intake, butterfly setups wicked, I’ve never seen that before…. 👍🏻
Should totally use the 8 ball as the shift knob