Organic paint part 2
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Hey Cody, thanks for the video. I mentioned this when I attended your class a while back. I cleaned a beautiful painted blue house about a year and a half ago. I talked to the homeowner beforehand and gave them my concerns. I did a test spot on the back of the house and everything was fine so we decided to proceed. To make a long story short, the whole house was fine except for the entire front porch. It looked like a cartoon house. It was blue, light blue, pink, green and gray. I started to freak, but then I said, "No, I'm not going to freak, I'm going to handle this ". While I was sort of scratching my head, the homeowner found the paperwork on the paint and, you guessed it...it was Sherwin Williams. I'm insured so I had already concluded that I would file a claim if need be. I decided to mix a 5 gal container of Cleansol BC and I applied 2 coats following the directions (except I mixed a little stronger). It worked wonderfully. In fact the front porch area was the prettiest part of the house. Homeowner was amazed and I was too actually. Cant say that this will work every time, but it worked great that time. Also, if someone is new to this business and reads this, don't let my post scare you. I have cleaned anything and everything for 6 yrs and had this one issue. Get insurance, stay calm and professional, communicate with your customers and you will be fine. I subscribe to a few good guys, especially Southeast Softwash and a few others, but I have learned a lot by trial and error. You can stay in the comfort zone or you can go for it. I choose to go for it.
Big amen!
Glad you were able to feather it out!
If I was only focused on failure I’d still be working for Walmart!
@@southeastsoftwash4020 I know this is an old post but a BIG THANKS to both of you. I just got into pressure washing about 3 months ago. My business is legit with insurance and everything. I've had some great success with a roof wash already where nothing died and it came out perfect. A 4000sf mini mansion that the home owner wanted perfect to sell. I was getting super excited but I've had 2 bad things happen this week that's got me discouraged and bent out of shape. I killed about 10foot of grass at a ladies house where it was all running off her roof into one section. And today the big one which is why I'm watching this video. I cleaned a painted house and a couple sections brightened. It was a dark green house and a couple spots turned almost yellow. I'm going back out there tomorrow. It's a small enough spot to paint but I'm not a good painter. I didn't know about Cleansol BC but thanks for that. Will defiantly try that first. I'm prepared to file an insurance claim if needed but I really don't want to do that as a new business owner. I've learned 2 things this week. Presoak everything even if running 1% if it's a dry day. 2. Stay away from painted surfaces. I've been down streaming but after today I'm going to start working on my soft wash system (I have a 12v and batched mixed for that roof wash. Building my regulator and trailer now) Idk if batch mixing got me into this mess or what but I really just want to control everything with a soft wash system now. Anyhow I know this is long but that's my story and I want to say thanks for telling me what I needed to hear right now. John thanks for saying stay calm. Cody thanks for your quote, "If I was only focused on failure I’d still be working for Walmart!" I really needed to hear that. My failure this week has got me so bent out of shape I've been questioning myself and if I should of started this. I'm still stressed as hell right now but hopefully I can get my mind right. Any advice would be much appreciated and thanks again.
So what do you think the cleansol bc did exactly?
I'm not sure that I can provide an answer to exactly what the cleansol bc did scientifically. I have used cleansol bc a number of times for oxidation removal. Most of the time it will remove oxidation with little to no brushing. I decided to try it because the colors appeared to be surface colors. Truthfully I figured that I would either have to repaint the front or replace the siding in the front so I decided to give this a try first. All I can say is that it worked great. I did, in the process kill 2 small shrubs but that pales in comparison to what I thought was going to happen. That wouldn't have happened either but I was focused more on the house than watering the plants. I posted the earlier post as something to try if it ever happens, hopefully it won't. It worked, but it may not on another house, not sure.
Found it! Thx
I agree 100% absolute tell our technicians a documentation short snippet a video to the test spot of the spot where we put the wash solution documentation of what percent it was time date we did that and the customer just painted the back side of the house with Organic we tested the frontside no fading got to the back we had a disaster 550 house wash become a profit of only $10 after repainting the back side of the house we test all four corners of the house now little spots Right video Kodi keep up the good work brother
Remember the sun light plays in affect , direct sun light will bake the SH quicker
Good Share!! It is good to see how the different SH strength will fade the organic paint
Thank you for sharing the test results with us. Knowledge is key. Take care. You and the team have a great holiday weekend. Thanks again for sending me the fittings. I got them today. 🙏
Just did a hardy sided house today, customer requested I not use chlorine, so I just used surfactant alone. Worked pretty good and where stuff was stuck on, I just brushed it lightly while soapy and it cleaned up just fine. Luckily it didn't have any algae, just real dusty.
Thats great the customer knew what they were working with. Did you charge more for having to do manual labor?
Awesome test Cody. Thanks for taking the time to do this 👍
Thanks man
IF you do a roof wash and have another guy hosing the side walls with the same paint will it have a same reaction or it doesn't matter it will get the same reaction either way if its oversprayed?
You can probably do it that way and be fine
Good video Coty! Ground guy earns that pay check on projects like those!
Try Sherwin-Williams Resilience K43 with early moisture resistance development.
This would be good to test with a very low strength, like 1 percent or even less
We recommend putting fresh on the house first and then apply soap with fresh directly applied
Great info! Thx for making the 2 part video
The organic pigments are in the colorant, not the base. It depends on the color formula and how much of that organic pigment colorant is in that formula. Cure times are a factor also. Once fully cured out those same boards may react differently.
Yep. Too many factors so always do a test spot
Great info, Coty. Ty !
Thank you Coty.
I’ve got a dark brown duration on my fascia, let 6-7% sit on it while doing the roof, no gutters. It was ok
Glade i cought part 2 thanks for making
great info thnxs for part 2 i was waiting for it lol
I'm a painter I've been painting for years that was a great job.but I would say that it was the deep base colors that would cause That problem i don't thank it matters what brand who sells it. Thanks for the video
The organic based pigments in certain types of paint makes it especially susceptible to discoloration from the S.H.
Thanks for the content, I’m interested to see how it will hold up fully cured.
Great video. I will be painting that house tomorrow. But I assure you, all of my technicians will be doing test spots from now on. I’m just thankful it was a small house.🤣
I’ve had to paint stuff a few times. It sux lol
What do I do if I encounter a house with this organic paint? Just use water or hit the toad? I hope SW has a reply to this.
@@pressurewashingsarasota I’ll be doing a vid soon
Hardy plank the only problem siding, or can vinyl be a problem also? Thanks for the great info videos!!!
Hey Coty. I got an Idea for you. I want to know the difference between using bleach vs using the Northstar house wash formula. Maybe we could conduct an experiment and see what happens. I'm one of those guys that is a bit skeptical about using bleach so I've been using this formula on brick and vinyl homes and they seem to do the trick. Their gutter wash also does a great job as well. Let me know what you think... I'm unexperienced with bleach so I've been using these products and they seem to do fine with me.
Thanks for the information.
Is this all flat paint I would like to see the difference in satin and flat
How long did you let the paint cure for? That will make a difference 🤔
But definitely good to know 🙂
Been a painter for 30 years and I am curious was the paint cured for a few days before the test was done and were you using a flat finish or satin? I would think different results would occur between the sheens thanks if ya'll get a chance to answer, it's about what I expected the deep bases are most affected I would think but that Super paint is S$#t I use Duration and Emerald if I use Sherwin. Great test idea tho
Third generation painter here. Some of these idiots don't know their own trade,and now acting like they know something about paint. S.w. isn't gutter gaurds
Test spot with a pump up sprayer. Easy
I assume you haven't had the opportunity to talk to that paint chemist yet.
I'm curious to hear more.
Was Magenta pigment used in the paint colors used ?
Paint takes around 30 days to cure, would be a better test to wait until they are cured out
Yeah might do another test in the future
@@southeastsoftwash4020 If you do another test, mask an area at the top of the board to have a control of the un sprayed finish to compare at completion.
Any paint with the magenta pigment is gonna fade because its an organic pigment is my understanding
In your opinion do you think this only happens on freshly painted houses?
No. I’ve seen it on houses painted 3 years prior
Thx for this!
Ok boss so how do we avoid this? Test the house at 5% even doing a roof job?
What %SH should I carry in a spray bottle for test spots?
3%