Long Term CARBON MTB Wheels, Elitewheels PRO36 Review
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- Two seasons later - my affordable carbon 29er PRO36 #wheels from #Elitewheels. Wheels used on my Yeti for XC Racing/ Trail. Checking the rims/ spokes/ hubs two seasons later. 30mm ID for PRO36 (27mm for PRO33), 28H Elite/ PRO ratchet hubs. #carbon
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00:00 Intro
00:45 Categories, 2 seasons later
01:17 Rims
02:08 Sapim spokes
03:30 The PRO ratchet hubs
04:46 The ratchet mechanism
06:58 Test conditions
07:21 Conclusions, dicount code
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Never thought of covering up a scratch on my bike. Love the look of a bike that's been ridden hard.
Good point, battle scars!😆
I look forward to them since it's a good opportunity to repaint...
I sent my triple metalized purple hardtail to gmbn and they never featured it 😂
I don't bother covering up the scratches either. What's the point?
Been using elite carbon rims 3 yrs with cx-ray spokes and polyax nipples dt240 hubs with no problems. Very happy with them. Upgraded the spokes with carbon spokes and a new connical 72t ratchet hubs now weighing in at 1050g pair. Elite is certainly top quality with over 8k kms on them with alot of races under its belt. I like your long term review on this.
Thanks for sharing your experience!😍
tnx for another awesome honest review, i always wait and watch for your videos and base some of my purchases based on what you post. you have one of the un biased videos i can watch.
I have those wheels on one of my bikes using your discount code over a year ago and I love them. Glad to see that they're holding up well.
Great to hear! And thanks for sharing your experience
First, Thanks for posting these reviews.
Super happy with the light pro33's!
After watching your first review I immediately purchased a set using your discount. Installed on my 2021 Marin Team 2... They have held up well on my hardtail using it for trail and small jumps. Spokes lost a little tension but remained true.
Thanks for sharing. Yah like I mentioned in the video, after two seasons I would touch 4-5 spokes on this wheelset but mostly because I build wheels myself and because I can🙂 Otherwise all good!
I got these on your recommendation as well. Raced them a few times and they've been great. You've used them a lot more then me so glad to hear they're doing fine with heavy use. I just used matt black touchup paint to cover a scratch or two.
Thanks for sharing!🤘
Dude! Such a great bike, also love the color! You are killing it on YT! Well done!!
Thanks☺
Couldn't be happier with the Elite wheels. Used your discount.
I have had these in my cart several times, just haven't pulled the trigger yet. With your discount, they're really, really tempting! Glad to hear they're holding up well.
Wait a few more days for a bit better...till Monday😉
@@LoveMTB would you happen to know if the listed price ($739.00) on their website is in Canadian Funds? Would love to try these out with your discount!
Pretty sure it is in USD. Use the code I just added tot he description for a deeper BF discount till the 30th 😉@@jessegodson929
I ordered the Pro36 and used your discount. Thank you!
Enjoy!🤟
Being a heavier rider, I went with the Gnar Trail 29er Elite wheels. A small weight penalty over the PRO36 and I beat on them just as hard as I do my alloy DT Swiss EX511 / I9 1/1 wheelset and have had no issues. Wouldn't hesitate to buy another set of Elite wheels.
Same here love the Gnar wheels!!! Plus the 🐝🐝🐝
Likewise - was procrastinating on buying the Pro36 then the Gnar Trail was released, at a discount, so I snapped them up. Just replaced the bearings in them, many k's on them.
Great to see that you’re still happy with them. In all honesty, I had been a bit hesitant thinking they could be “too good to be true” and bought some Reynolds Black Label that were on sale instead of
I bought a different version from Elite (33 iw) and they've been very good.
Yeah that's their 27mm ID rims, identical otherwise bust a bit lighter overall
I have these same wheels on one of my bikes and the only thing I don't like about them is where the spokes cross one another. They tend to ping and creek at times. Especially when it's cold out and the bike came from a fresh wash. I found that a small bit of corrosion forms at the connections. It takes a bit of work to get in there to clean them and then to add a little light oil. This solves the noises for about a month or so. I can also attest to the Elite warranty. They covered a claim by sending me a whole new wheel. Certainly a stand up company that believes in their products. I just wish they had Super Boost spacing as a option.
Thanks for sharing your experience Paul!
Dream frame, nice wheels!
Definitely thinking about trying them on my Hardtail to save a little weight from my bontrager comp 40's.
Update: I received my Pro36 wheels and tested the spoke tension in front and rear wheels. I noticed 2 spokes on the front wheel were tensioned way below the others using the Park Tool TM-1 tension meter. The Park Tool WTA app showed those spokes were beyond 20% variance from the average tension. The rear wheel had no tension issues. I talked to EliteWheels at Sea Otter and also corresponded with Anthony via email at their customer support. They told me to go to my LBS and have them tension & true the wheel and they would reimburse me. I went ahead and did that and received reimbursement via PayPal for the $40 service cost. Excellent customer service! If you buy these wheels its worthwhile to check the tension before you ride them.
Great point thanks for sharing your experience 🤘
Excellent review! I have a set of these ordered based on your reviews of this brand. I ride year round in central Georgia. Appreciate you code as well!
Thanks for sharing your experience Bob! Happy trails
@@LoveMTB Hello.. I received my Pro 36 wheel a few days ago. I have this issue with my SRAM X01 Eagle XG-1295 cassette, which I removed from my 350 hub, it will only screw down about 2 revolutions and stops on the new Elite driver. The threads are incompatible I assume. Once I removed the cassette I could see that the first 2 threads on the driver had the black paint stripped off. I've had this same cassette on/off my DT Swiss 350 hub a few times and it still screws down as normal on the SRAM Ratchet XD driver.
I have emailed Elite Wheels service and waiting on a reply. I can only surmise that Elite Wheels will send me a replacement XD driver. So I am wondering what my options are if you could provide some insight. Would my DT Swiss Ratchet driver work on the Elite Pro 36 hub? Appreciate your insights ! Thanks Bob
You can use them with the DT XD driver no problem, direct replcement. And what you're telling me....rotate the cassette a bit, the spline is a bit different on the Elite but works just fine. Unless you cross threaded it?@@boballard6040
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Got a set of new take off line comp 30s and am super happy with them.
Keep an eye on the spokes on those, they tend to snap from what I'm reading?
@@LoveMTB will do
I use either flat or glossy black nail polish for rim scratches, and carbon frame blemishes. On glossy rim or carbon surfaces, car wax and some elbow grease can remove scuffs or light scratches.
Thanks for the suggestions😊
I will definitly buy those for my Stumpjumper next spring :) I have the Carbon comp model which is awesome but the wheelset is kinda heavy.
Good choice!
BTW stadard discount code should work even after Nov 30 😏
Have 35mm ID rims on my Trek Full Satchel 29+ mule (3 years running)👌
The OEM aluminium wheels were 40mm ID and flexy as 🫣
Love my 29+ rig with these wheels on it 🤘
Rear wheel has DT Swiss 350 hub w/ 54 tooth ratchet upgrade.
Front is some proprietary thing that matches the rim(s).
NB - they were expensive... but, I've never needed to touch them & the Full Stache has done some gnarly riding - including an Enduro Race.
PS - 29x3.0 SE4 tyre on rear w/ 29x3.0 Maxxis Minion DHRII tyre up front.
Great to see you back, happy trails!
I have these wheels. I race on them. They are amazing.
Running NOBL TR32 on my XC bike and NOBL TR36 on my trail bike.
Great choices!🤘
The dried sealant on my rims covers the scratches. I did get yellow tire paint on Amazon that highlights the Berd spokes rather nicely, though, so I'm not above the pursuit of bling!
Haha 🤘
Great review as always!!! I use a permanent black felt marker to hide my scratches but it doesn't last forever.I wonder why they cancel your warranty if used on a e-bike?I've got prob 13,000kms on my dt 350 wheels without any problems and these wheels are basically a dt 350.
Good idea Glenn! I used permannt markers in the past but they fade away in time. For eBikes they have the Gnar Trail, bit beefier and slightly heavier than this.
Cool wheels! Question: what size tires are you running on the rear? I have a 2020 SB100 that I’ve been running 2.25 tires in the back, and I want to try a 2.4 instead, but it looks like the clearance might be a little tight. Have you successfully fit 2.4 tires on your SB100?
Been running 2.4s for a couple of seasons like in the video
I’m looking to get a set of carbon wheels , now I’ll look at these , was looking at we are one .
Both grat choices! As for these, check back the details of the video on Monday 😉
Code is up in the description and it's a deeper dicount than their BF posted😊
After watching your video I picked up the gnar trail version from Elite and they have been fantastic for the several weeks that I have owned them. I am curious to know how have yours been holding up specially the high engagement hub??
They've been fine but have to admit I did not ride that vike anywhere close to the Yeti/ Pro36 combo
@@LoveMTB glad the’ve worked out for you. I have less very 100 miles on mine so hopefully they prove to be reliable.
had to,change the ratchet rings after 1000km. changed it to steel or titan. thats a weakness. but im also 105kg heavy and put down a lot of power.
Good to know thanks!🤘
Wondering if you could explain how to choose between the pro33 and pro36. Is it just the rim ID 27 vs 30mm? Is it better to go wider for xc racing? Thanks
It is definitely just the rim. I would chose depending on your tires, we use 2.4s so pro36 provide a great fit.
How about 1.95 tyre size. Can it hold nicely cause I use my same bike to race crit as well.
Thanks for the review!
Would you pick these or the new Gnar Trail?
I am searching for a wheelset upgrade for my Occam h10.
With import duties We Are One are too expensive for Europeans.
Do you prefer the Pro Hub or the new Frequency?
There are also 9velo that are very tempting but very very light, am a bit afraid I ride everything with one bike.
Thanks!
Thanks!
It would be a hard choice in a way, I am biased towards rathet hubs as they gave me no headaches over the last few years. If you like the bzzzz Frequency for sure. Gnar rims are really really nice, assume you saw my vid on those also. For heavier rider, ebikes, ENDURO type riding I would probably go for Gnar. Otherwise can't beat the PRO36 I think.
@@LoveMTB thanks!
So you didn't have any skipping or issues with the pro hub?
I am gonna go with either of them from your link.
Thanks for the help!
Skipping for the rather hubs can be caused by using way too much grease or the wrong type. If it skips even once I would check right away for too much of it. And no, zero issues on mine as you heard in the video. Maybe a front bearing is getting close to the end of life but nothing else.@@melch1
@@LoveMTB amazing thanks for your advices!
I am one season in with a set of Elite Pro33. Raced and ridden regularly just had to replace a set of front bearings after a couple of very wet races, but other than that all been faultless, I am even considering getting a spare set for the races. Very pleased with mine.
Wait till tomorrow for a bit of extra discount😉 and thanks for sharing your experience!
Alright code is up and it's a deeper dicount than their BF posted😊
I read one review for these wheels that said he replaced the ratchet for a double spring, like DT (to prevent slipping )
Do you think that's a good idea?
In theory that dounble spring is a better solution. At the same time...if ain't broke, why fix it? No issues with mine that I can speak of
If I get a deep scratch or gouge on my carbon rims I use either clear lacquer or epoxy resin then sand n wax polish the scratches and deep gouges and they virtually disappear.
Thanks for the details!
Would you believe the Pro 33 would be okay for a heavier rider? I’m around 200lbs and have some chunky and technical XC races coming up…
For sure strong is just the support for the tires if you use let’s say 2.4-2.5
I typically run 2.4wt rekon and forkaster… hmmm decision time!
I would personally go for the Pro36@@cycling_psychologist318
In my option, it's a bit tough to justify purchasing these over a set of We Are One carbon wheels.
Using the LoveMTB discount code, a pair of Elite 29er Pro36 wheels comes in at $861.78CAD ($628.15 USD). If you add a conservative 5% import duty (standard for bike parts in Canada) to this, the delivered price becomes $904.86 (estimated). A pare of WAO Union Wheels with i9 1/1 hubs is currently $1,176CAD (after taxes, free shipping within Canada). With the WAO, you get hubs from a more established manufacturer and a lifetime warranty on the wheels from WAO (Elite wheels warranty is 3-years). For the extra money, I would probably side with the WAO (recognizing that an extra ~$280 is a lot of money). Extra bonus is supporting a Canadian company who emphasizes local manufacturing.
Now, as in today, you might be corret, those were 1400 wheels. Still price is quite different, I chose DT350s instead (1/1 are nothing special) and with tax ends up 1356cad, 500$ more. Great to have (good) options though
@@LoveMTB For sure, everything depends on where the sale is and what the finalized prices will be delivered. It's good to know that the Elites are a safe option to choose, especially when they can under cut the market of domestic (North America) suppliers. Keep up the great reviews 👍
BTW BF code is up in the description and it's a deeper dicount than their BF posted😊
Why doesn't WAO publish their wheelset weights? They only publish the rim weight which is useless when trying to make wheel comparisons. The current price on WAO's Faction wheels with DT Swiss 350 and CX-Ray spokes, which is comparable to the Pro36, discounted for Black Friday is $1,160 USD. The Pro36 are $606 with no duties or sales tax for USA or $866 with DT Swiss 350 upgrade. I am probably going to get the stock Pro36 with their proprietary hubs. That price is too low to not give them a try.
@@Tomzzzzzz nice, I hope the new wheels are a fun ride!
I triggered a gnar trail 29, waiting to try the wheel. First carbon rim ever on a XC bike... We'll see.
Plus the Bzzzzzzzzzzz🙂
I just missed the sale event on that wheel set. I guess there's always next time. Aliexpress is going to have another sale i hope its cheaper than the one i just missed.
Better one coming Monday for Black Friday check back the description
Alright code is up in the description and it's a deeper dicount than their BF posted😊
I clicked expecting to see a yeti on fire. I only saw footprints just like in the Discovery channel show.
Hi 👋🏽 again do you know were can I buy an apple tension tool ?? Actually I’m the one of the group who build wheels for the group 😅
Apple tension??
@@LoveMTB 🍎 sorry XD an spoke tension meter tool or which one do you recommend?
@@adriancabrera3014 park is good enough for the occasional wheel build
I've been looking for a decent set of "budget" carbon rims. This might just be the ticket.
I would recommend them as well. I've been almost a year on mine. I just ordered the 60T upgrade for higher engagement. Great pricing on really good carbon wheels.
What are your thoughts on rigid MTB? Thanks !
Rigid as in hardtail?
That would be lovely if you had 50% discount code
Wish, kind of sounds like that doesn't it? 😉
BTW I might have a deeper discount for Black Friday next week...😉
BTW BF code is up in the description and it's a deeper dicount than their BF posted😊
do you hear any noise (sometimes), when spokes rub against each other, where they cross each other?
Good question, even forgot about it. Noticed that towards the end of the season antet a muddy race assumed that I did not clean well enough especially at the intersection of those cx Ray spokes.
@@LoveMTB even when perfectly clean, it doesn't go away, since spokes aren't round.
experienced same with Mavic wheels with flat spokes and also on DT Swiss XRC 1200.
so now I have DT Swiss XMC 1200, with round spokes and 0 problems
sure, they're heavier, because of 240 hub (instead of 180 eith ceramic bearings), but the rim is stronger/thicker and no spokes related noise anymore and 240 hub is more than enough
If you have a spoke wrench go around and look / align the spokes they can rotate slightly and it doesn’t take much for them to spike like strings😊
have you been using the original DT freehub? or the original DT ratchets?
I have the same hub and sometimes I notice that some teeth jump on the 36T ratchet, and I was thinking of putting the original DT ratchets on.
You have all the info you need in this video. Also too much grease can cause the ratchet rings to skip.
The DT Swiss ratchets are NOT compatible with Elite hubs. I tried & showed why not on my channel...
I also have occasional skipping (maybe once per ride) during high power sprints. Tried full clean and grease of various amounts (dt swiss ratcher grease), but I havent found a fix. Elitewheels customer service sent me a new freehub body but the problem still remains. I'd recommend ordering these with the DT350 hubs.
probably a safe ber. Skipping comes from the ratchet not the freehub. Have you tried lighter grease like the DumondTech one I show in the video?@@Alaakso
@@Alaakso I had the same problem, skipping when I was climbing hard. Elite sent a new ratchet pair and that solved the issue.
I don't cover anything. The more banged up the bike is the more it tells about the warrior riding it 😅
Haha good point. Happy trails!
Well my Elite pro 36's. & Mrs Ghost Rider MTB 's Pro 33 are taking a beating and keep on clicking..
I cover the scratches with clear tough coat nail polish. The spokes are solid & the bearings are clean. The rear ratchet gets noisy and needs grease to drop the dBs.
Only complaint as I showed on my channel is the ratchet isn't compatible with the DT Swiss hubs. And you can't replace the ratchets... You might want to check that in this video....
Thanks for sharing! What do you mean they are not compatible? Did you watch carefully that part of the vid?? 🤓
@@LoveMTB I disassembled the Elite hub, inserted both (separate tests) a ZTTO & a DT swiss ratchet pair. The result was that no matter how you combine the springs &/or spacers with the different ratchets the Elite hubs will compress the "other" ratchets so they can't freewheel. I figured out the how the Elite ratchets are designed there is material removed which it is not in the ZTTO ratchets & the DT Swiss have too much material removed from the back side of the ratchet to work in the Elite hub assembly. I finally got a response from elite confirming they are not compatible & they don't make a 54 tooth ratchet pair of their own, sad but 36 is it. FYI, I saw the spacer.... If that is the magic pixie part, then perfect ....
@@AndreLaurentMTB What grease do you use in the rear ratchet to quiet them down?
@@myxti3669 I have a bottle of DT Swiss magic grease that came with a 54 tooth ratchet set
Can you use the DT Swiss 54t ratchet upgrade?
They also have a 54T ratchet upgrade, ask for it
@@LoveMTB thank you! They offered me a 60t
Even better!!@@hazeraid
Whoa!! I’ve been in the market for carbon wheels and was primarily looking at Reserve 30 SL’s with DT Swiss 350. They are $1599 and weigh 1702 gms. If the specs are correct, your wheels are 1486 gms and cost HALF as much! How much did your wheels weigh?
1505 with tape
And wait until Monday...😉
@@LoveMTB thank you! 😊
Thanks, I saw the extra 3% for black friday. After some additional research I think I am probably going with Reserve 30 SL or possibly We Are One Faction wheels. I am not a fan of the straight pull and Elite does not offer J-bend.@@LoveMTB
@@Tomzzzzzz all great choices enjoy!!
I use the dt ratchet clone 60t steel chinese upgrade because the 54t original dt is waaay too weak, and at 150$ it's not what you want ...
How's your experience using it? Have one but never installed...
@@LoveMTB I've been using the titanium coated one branded as "fovno" (35$) there's some greyish metal inside the grease after this summer but nothing like the one and a half missing tooth I had with the genuine DT 54 alloy one I got from bikeinn.
You can't feel the difference iirc it's also something like 30g heavier but I'll take no chipping over that kinda weight any day.
I have another one (greyish color without special coating) branded as "ztto" in a set of 240 clones but I have only about 60hrs of riding on it I cannot tell if it's as a good as the gold "fovno"
*About bikeinn; some might argue that bikeinn might sell fakes but I fully trust them I've been buying mavic and Garbaruk parts, also tires from them without any fake issues it's a well established business.
Sharpie Magic Marker to hide scratches. Cheap.
This is false, DT swiss 350 ratchet rings are not compatible with the Pro hubs. I have verified this my self by trying out my DT350 rings and the freewheel mechanism binds up when installed to this hub. No matter what combination of parts (including the freehub body) I've tried, no compatibility. I measured the rings using my calipers and the DT swiss rings are "taller".
Also Elitewheels customer service confirmed that the DT swiss ratchet upgrade is not combatible with their hubs.
You know you’re making me to do a video specifically on this right?😆
@@LoveMTB Would probably clarify things.
@@LoveMTB Please friend. do it. I want to change to original DT ratchet because I suffer with the 60T from yuananbikes and 36T of elitewheels.
As you see in this video I used their ratchet for 2 seasons with no issues. What grease did you use with the PRO hub?@@calibra3
@@LoveMTB The grease that come with the ratchets 60T and 36t from factory PRO hubs. What grease do you recomend me DT original or another?