Asus ROG Ally microSD / SD card issue and workaround
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Avoid damaging microSD cards in your Asus ROG Ally. Try this simple workaround. Finally you can now store your games on a collection of microSD cards.
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But its really annoying me when Ally has an sd card slot but you cant use it just because some of the engineers in asus dont know how to build a cooling system and you have to pay extra money for this
Agree 100%. I do find however that slower A1 class cards have been working reliably for me. Hasn't crashed for months. See text in the description as to my best guess as to why.
You can use it however you cant stress the console too much and generate so much heat. This is basically user responsiblity too not to let the system go until 95 degree for prolonged period of time or turning up fan curve to mitigate heat.
@@jackykwan2580 its absolutely manufacturer's responssiblity to let consumer enjoy their device without any broke down threat. Not everyone know how to adjust system software or whatever the tempreture it should not reach, most of them just want to plug in a sd card and play games.
After the update my sd card not working 😢😢😢
How to fix the issue?
Yes but it can draw more power and you can't charge at the same time. I have a USB c SSD stuck on the back with a USB splitter so it can read super fast and be plugged in. Works well.
I did something similar. See video at time 3:07 where I used an adapter to both power and use the microSD cards. I like the microSD cards because of the low cost and being light weight. The performance is surprisingly good too. I'll be posting another video shortly on performance comparisons between the internal SSD and microSD cards.
I'm curious on power draw on all these things. I found the power splitter cable wrapped perfectly around the tint lightweight SSD. 4TB always on hand is awesome and cheaper than the micro sd equivalent. Just wish we had 2 USB c ports. Nice to see more experimenting. :)
Paying as much as we do for handhelds, work around should not even be an option to have to do.
Actual workaround is to replace 2 faulty PPTC fuses, that become resistors (probably due to incorrect reaction to overheating)
@zork219 interesting response. Can you please elaborate further?
That's such a hilarious bodge. I can't believe owners aren't kicking up more of a fuss about this.
Yeah, it is ridiculous. Asus does provide warranty support but I was skeptical whether they could actually fix it. I'll post another video soon on how my warranty repair went...
Asus has to correct that with a new refresh version of Rog Ally.
Newer ones I belive have a copper heat shield for the sd reader
Thats all well and good but what about those of us got the rog ally on day 1?
@@1972lesteryan Send it to Asus and they will swap the motherboard with the new one
So, the sd port issue is still a thing, even with more recent machines? I read that Serial R8 and 9 doesn't have the problem.
Have an ally from december, it killed a 512 I was using for Roms. Just upgrade the internal ssd with one of the right angle adaptors and your good I put a 2 tb in for ~$150
My port died but not my sd card, been using the external adapter ever since
How is the loading speed? Any difference between running games from internal nVme VS SD card reader?
I'm running the tests now. Will post results soon. Surprising results. Like and subscribe to get notified.
Pretty much the same as the Steamdeck maybe a few seconds saved nothing too substantial
I posted the video comparing load times here czcams.com/video/A6Y-lV8QnsY/video.html
This was really helpful man. Appreciate it a lot. With all the bad news about the ally´s sd problems I didn´t even care about using it. Does this affect gameplay?
I was the same way for a while, just avoided using microSD cards. But I could only hold a small number of games on my internal SSD and I had a pile of microSD cards staring me in the face. This was a solution I came up with and it works great. I'm going to post another video shortly about load times. Some surprising findings!
@@rejjie_DIY anyway on how to charge and use an sd at the same time? Or was that the final part of the video? Wasn´t exactly clear to me.
At time ~3:07 in this video, I used an adapter to both power the Ally while also using the microSD card. Is that what you're asking?
Great advice
Upgrade the SSD. It is insane Asus ignore this. I really hope there's a class action lawsuit - this is nuts! But upgrading to a 2TB SSD worked perfect.
Yes I've thought of doing that too. It's just that I have so many of these sd cards lying around. And surprisingly they load games in a decent amount of time. I'm just compiling the test results to post shortly.
The work around is getting Steam Deck OLED instead 😂
Very informative!! Thank you🙏🙏
Is there any chance that using a dock can cause a short circuit to the ally? What does asus say about using third party docks using oem charger but the doxk does not charge enough the ally?
3rd party docks work fine. At one time there was a problem with insufficient power when using a dock but that has been resolved with a past firmware update.
i think you need a adapter that matches the rog ally charging speed i think is around 64W (idk maybe someone can correct me)
The note about "long game sessions" at the end is a bit confusing. Is this method using the only slot/connection available for powering the device? Is that why the white "Diamond" adapter at the end of the video is needed? Can we get more details about that white adapter (with a link), or any similar adapters that would work? Seems pretty annoying having that bulk only a few inches from where it plugs into the device, so hopefully there's an alternative that isn't dangling a weight like that. I'm also confused by this statement: "(Xbox Game Pass) doesn't allow you to install a game on one micro sd card reader, remove the micro sd card and run it on a different sd card reader". There seems to be some key wordage missing here, as I'm not sure what you're saying. Which kind of sd card reader does Xbox Game Pass allow you to install games with?
Good questions. Correct, for longer gaming sessions when you need continuous power to your Ally, the dongle allows you to share the Ally's single USB-C port with both a USB-C charger and a microSD card reader. I'll post a link to one of these in the description. Regarding the Xbox Game Pass statement, after a lot of frustration with game installs that stopped working, I discovered that Xbox doesn't allow you to install a game on one microSD card reader then run it on a different card reader. I suspect this is due to Xbox verifying game license keys that is dependent on the storage location.
@@rejjie_DIY ohhhhh, it doesn't allow switching. That makes sense. Thanks for the quick reply, I bit the bullet and purchased an Ally. : )
I use a small 100w usb hub from Anker with a long cable and a 100w charger. You need a new 100w charger to get the 30w with a hub. Works perfect. So you have the 30w turbo mode without any bulk at your handheld. And I always use a small usb stick from sandisk, no sd card for all my gaming Handhelds because a usb stick is 2x faster than a sd card. Games runs much better from an usb stick.
@@Vegan_Liftingthanks for sharing. Do you have the model number ?
@@rejjie_DIY I am from germany, bought it on Amazon. The charger: UGREEN Nexode 100W PD USB C 4 Ports Charger. The USB hub is: Anker USB C Hub, 341 Adapter (7-in-1), 4K HDMI, 100W PD . But there are similar (smaller) hubs from Ugreen. And the extension cable: UGREEN USB C USB Typ C 3.1 Gen 2 USB-C Verlängerungskabel 100W/4K 60Hz kompatibel.....Important is that everything hast to be 100w PD to get the 30w turbo! And the small USB Stick: SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.2 Flash-Laufwerk 512 GB, 400 MB/s reading.
Get this guy some hand cream
The best option is... send it back to Asus and force them to redesign the motherboard and move the sd slot. If not, lawsuit.
Well 512 is usually big enough for me…well if wanna expand I’ll get one of your dongles thanks man
i have these adapters however i wont do this because i use my ally with a battery plugged in so this would cut my game time significantly
Just replace the internal ssd by a bigger one. I was so disappointed that the internal sd reader has this issue, this could be a much better machine.
Yes 100% a good option. It's just that I have all these SD cards lying around collecting dust. And they're convenient to pop in and out. And my SSDs always tend to fill up quickly.
Exactly, it is so convenient to pop a sd card in and start installing games on it. Steamdeck, switch all works flawlessly, why asus dropped the ball on this. 😢
This fixes tyour micro sd card potentially getting fried but the internal reader is still as usual prone to malfunction due to the heat issues.
Right. I've already damaged 2 sd cards, one of them was a 1TB card!! At least I can safely use them with this workaround.
@@rejjie_DIY did you rma? Would have fixed it and given you a new sd card or 2
@@OwenGoolaub did they throw in replacement sd cards for you? Did rma still work after long usage?
Great video
Thanks!
But you can’t charge at the same time, am I right?
That's right. Unless you use a dongle or hub, see later in the video
@@rejjie_DIY Thanks
I got my fiance one of these i guess it was fortunate that she didn't take handheld gaming because she had gotten WAY to use to mouse in key from her old and mean OLD gaming laptop, and i already had like a mini dock that i use to use for my switch, then my steam deck before i got a official steam deck dock, so i just gave it to her it has both a micro sd and a normal sd reader a headphone jack for some reason lol and 2 usb ports
I also use my dock quite often with a 48" ultra wide monitor. This Ally performs great. Responsive and smooth for desktop apps
@@rejjie_DIY yeah we got her hp 40" 2k curved monitor and yeah at 1440p and all the games she plays run Very smoothly
Awesome video👍🏻
i added a bigger heatsink connected to an aluminum plaring insert in the back plate temparature do you ecreased
Nice!
Opened mine up and put some aluminum fiberglass tape over the sd card slot
@GIO77ification did this work long term for you?
@@rejjie_DIY it’s working right now.
I decided I was making that correction when buying the device. I know a lot of users don’t want to fiddle with the internals but I’m comfortable with electronics so took a jab at it.
Took about $30 in materials and an hour of time, could take less time rushing and cost less with cheaper materials.
Used Artic MX 5 thermal paste I think. Based on the internets recommendation.
My SD slot works with slow SD cards but not my fast ones 😂 like wtf asus I just said forget about it and upgraded my ssd and reinstalled my os. Buuuuuttt I would love to use my SD cards still 😅
That's why I returned my. The heat on this ally is terrible. I had 3 in total. All 3 had different problems. After the 3rd one fans gave out I returned it for the last time. This was all within 2 months. Very sad because it was cool when it work. I got the legion go now. And in a lot of part I actually like it more. I got use the the bigger size and now I like it even more. Good tips tho. The next ally will probably be great.
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Yeah lots of great handheld options out there. Good for all of us!
Just use sd card lol. You guys have warranty so they will fix ur handheld when it brake.
BTW I have day 1 ROG ally and my SD works perfect...
And with ur adapter u can't charge rog ally so better to use other adapter with SD card and PD slot...
I thought the same thing until it damaged two $100 (Canadian) 1 TB A2 V30 microSD cards of mine. At time 3:07 in this video I show the other adapter with PD power input. The small adapter is convenient though.
@@rejjie_DIY 100$ 1tb sd card? Cmon... Better get 2280 ssd and adapter.. BTW are u sure cards got damaged?... Reformating etc?
I should clarify - $100 Canadian dollars. Most of the time I was able to repartition and reformat successfully. But after doing that several times, eventually it just wouldn't respond. I suspect one of the write cycles was corrupt and wrote into an area it shouldn't have, not sure.
The SSD and adapter is a good idea but I like the portability too much so don't want to get bogged down.
@@rejjie_DIY what I mean is L adapter so u can replace your 2230 ssd with 2280 one lol. It will be inside in ur ally. :)
Just upgrade 2tb ssd and play like normal. Whats the point adding all those accessories looks like rog ally on life support
Lol. Agree ! I have a lot of these SD cards lying around though and am using them for a very large library of games from Xbox game pass, epic and ea. Slowly working through...
Or just send it back to Asus and get it repaired . RMA process takes about 3 weeks tho.
I've seen a few posts where the RMA'd unit came back and still exhibited problems with the microSD reader. Did it work for you? I'm particularly paranoid as I've already lost two 1TB microSD cards in my Ally, and those are not cheap. I kinda think Asus owes me for those destroyed cards.
@@rejjie_DIY mine will be back tomorrow so I don't know. I do know that the process as difficult as they can. Hope it works but wouldn't be surprised if it didn't. Selling mine soon as I get it back.
The reason why I'm a bit skeptical about the RMA fix is that the SD card reader silicon is still going to be subject to the same heat exhaust. The heat impacts the read and write cycle timing of that silicon which can then lead to data corruption. And I don't want to go through the pain of losing another $100 on a 1 TB card. Would be great to hear how your RMA device works.
@@rejjie_DIY When I RMA'd my Ally they would not comp the card. Greatfully I contacted Samsung (Samsung warranty was still valid) and then RMA'd the card itself to Samsung. Havent seen the issue again so far since the Ally was RMA'd.
I'm using a very cheap SD card that i already have until my port gets burned. I will RMA if that happens and then put a better SD in it.
Strange there's no way around it by simply applying extra foil or kapton tape
@xmesaj2 there are a few who have tried this. See one of the comments below.
Or you could just send it to asus to get a new and upgraded motherboard? Thats what i did. SD Card reader been working fine since.
Thanks @Samsuraja . Is it working for the 512 GB+ A2 SD cards reliably?
@@rejjie_DIY Not tested. But my card reader went from functioning fully to be completly dead. Since i got it back from motherboard swap it has been working good with my cards but i have not done major testing.
@@Samsurajaplease keep us posted
....but then you can't charge...the 180° adapters cause damage to the port. That's been proven.
Because the 180 degree adapter doesn't make contact with the table when laid flat, I find it less prone to damaging the Ally's USB port than the adapter that sticks straight up. Re power, yeah, one or the other, not both.
Another tips: to fix quick draining battery on asus rog ally.
Use power supply..
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Regarding your comment re power supply. I agree. See the video at ~3:07 where you can power the Ally and connect an external microSD reader.
My workaround was to return it and buy a Steam Deck OLED👍
Lol. That is definitely an option. I just couldn't give up access to the 100+ games on Xbox game pass, EA and GOG. Maybe Steam has simplified the dual boot process by now?
@@rejjie_DIY Dont forget about Epic Games!
@@mandaloresmercy gotta love those 100+ free games now. Crazy
Or simply upgrade the ssd to 2tb or something and stop crying like a bitch over stupid sd card 🤦🏿♂️
or just get a steam deck
😂 funny I will never ever switch my rog ally to downgraded limited games machine and simply upgrade the ssd to 2tb of something and stop crying like a bitch over stupid sd card
I wish everyone would stop crying about stupid sd card if you want more storage just upgrade the ssd to 2tb and it going to be way faster then a slow sd card anyways
Totally agree that an SSD upgrade is the way to go. With all my past SSD upgrades (PC, laptop, etc), I always tend to fill them quickly and end up needing more storage again. SD cards are a convenient way to supplement the SSD. And the performance of even cheap SD cards is surprisingly good, see my other video: czcams.com/video/A6Y-lV8QnsY/video.html
How will u charge bro … non sense solution
Right, can't also charge without using a different adapter like the one near the end of the video. Non ideal but let's me use sd cards reliably and not damage them.
It's arr-oh-gee, not rawg 😒
Noted
Just setup a proper fan curve
Did that work reliably for you? I'm going to try returning under warranty although I've seen a few where the problem still persists.
@@rejjie_DIY yes put 70degrees and up to 100% and then 60degree to 60% 40 degree to 40% ect. the system will be way cooler.. the original Fan curve is beyond stupid... big software fail for Asus... all of this SD failure is for nothing
Step 1: Buy an MSI Claw
Not sure about the joystick positioning on that one...
@ffwdzwift4541 bro it's the same huh?
@@n64slayer well to be honest it´s not. Looks like it at first sight. I own the ally and had some time with the claw...the right joystick is placed lower on the claw and the buttons are higher up. Doesn´t feel that good. Apart from that...yes it looks like a promising machine. You are defenitely right about that.
intel graphics no thanks🤔
Step 2: Wait for reviews
🤦🏽♂️
nice trick, How did i not know that uhhhhhhhh im so dum, thanks tho