I played the AJS37, so you don't have to | AJS37 Viggen | War Thunder
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So basically if you want to play AJS37, you go play DCS AJS 37
As a Swedish main I was looking forward to this viggen not Because it’s good plane I was looking forward to this because it gives me an excuse to play the J35D a few 100 times to grind this out
You don't have the aj37?
@@AZ-dj1ni i do i have all the viggens appart from the AJS37 (the new one) (i have the entire airtree apprt from the new viggen)
We are seeing for quite some time the limitation of War Thunder gameplay/missions. Wouldn’t it be great if we had more dynamic matches that would have different objectives so you could play planes the way they were meant to. Mosh pit pvp is not good for top tier.
This limitations been known for half a decade, many gamemodes were made to fix it yet Gaijin doesnt want to keep them around due to "server" limitations. Even though the gamemodes worked perfectly fine and scaled perfectly fine.
Dddrd😅reh😊dekeied
the fighter monkeys don’t want that for air rb. They don’t want anything more than team death match, unfortunately.
I remember in DCS it has a guy in the back with a wrench to hit the engine with when it stalls
Gotta respect Sven. Doing god's work back there.
@@ErikMoronii swear Sven needs a raise
You mentioned how the AJS has the same engine as the AJ and that it gets less thrust than the JA variants. That is true but in War Thunder gaijin completely messed up the viggen engines. Even though the AJS has the same engine as the AJ (the RM-8A), it produces the same amount of thrust as the RM-8B engine on the JA variants. So currently the AJS37 ingame is as fast as the JA37D. But this is not caused due to the AJS having the wrong engine thrust, in fact, it is the only viggen with the correct engine power. And the JA variants should have slightly over 1000kgf more thrust according to every single source about the RM-8B engine. The thrust numbers for the JA variants ingame are completely made up by gaijin and can't be found elsewhere. I don't know how its even possible to screw up this bad. Not only is the thrust wrong on the 3 Viggens, but the top speed is also wrong on all 4 of them and there is a whole video talking about gaijins miscalculation that has gone ignored by gaijin for almost 2 years. czcams.com/video/Y1p6QPvIflE/video.html
4:42, the F-14 didn't crash on purpose, the F-4S actually killed him before, his plane just went on flying. Also they could just remove the AIM-9Ls from the AJS and put it to 10.3 as a tradeoff to the regular AJ with a heavier airframe but the abillity to carry AIM-9Js with it's ordinance.
This should be 11.0, not 11.3. And the JA37D should be 11.3, not 11.7.
You’d think but no the ja37D is clearly better then the mig 23 MLD
Nah, the ajs37 should be 11.0 but the ja37d should be 11.7 no higher no lower til it gets rb99s, then maybe it can be 12.0 or stay at 11.7
@@brodykloster2102 once it gets the better missile yes it should stay but until then no reason it should be 11.7
D viggen is better than every top tier jets just because of the fast skyflashes amd having 360 flares
@@CruLisP? Have you heard of the Aim-7F/M’s and R-27ER?
thats how u have to play the viggen. u cant go into the fur ball, u need to fly away, and look for straglers or people not payin attention etc as u said. Great video
Might be a stretch, but the state of missiles right now (9/10 times zero smoke trail and sometimes the diamond doesnt even appear - yes, while the missile is burning) is obviously painfull, but hear me out.
The patch got delayed to drop after the economy roadmap for various reasons, which means the devs got to work on the next update (maybe i'm overestimating gaijins work ethic but why not for the sake of the argument). We've all seen that gaijin's coding can be... dubious... when implementing new mechanics, even though you would think said mechanics would be, lets say "isolated" (UDES 33 april fools Spike incident - 1.April 2021 god rest those poor souls).
If we then add the addition of the Pythons to the equation, an objectively better missile than the 9L's, it would make sense for gaijin's next step to be adding a counter - the next step in the Sidewinder family - the 9M. Which has one main advantage over the Lima ----- A smokeless motor. Or rather a smoke-->less, low-smoke motor. ((plus better flare discrimination etc etc etc.)) This all but confirms the 9M for the next uppdate, with pooooosibly the additon of the hornet or the eagle, or am I stretching it too far now.
Either way thanks for attending my drunken Ted Talk conspiracy theory which defenitly 100% proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the 9M will come in the next patch.
-Nostradamus.
Fucking Poetry Sir
This viggen at 11.3 is the same BR as rhe MiG 27K and Mirage 2000D. Tbh 2000D at 11.3 is still criminal.
EDIT: The worst part? YOU NEED THIS NOW TO GET TK RANK VIII SWEDEN. YOU LITERALLY NEED EVERY AIRCRAFT. THIS IS THE 3RD TIME THEY'VE DONE THIS. ON THE DEV FOR JA-37D YOU NEEDED 2 AIRCRAFT!
Malding. Coping. Seething.
F4EJ kai at 11.7 be like:
I already knew this plane was going to be shit before it even hit main servers. Gaijin is doing Sweden dirty. The gripen was made when the f16 and mig29 were produced but it's not in the game yet. They will probably add the gripen when the f15 comes out making it basically like the viggen where it was outmatched by everything at 12.0
I think the main issue with this plane (besides not having all the armament options it had IRL) is that it just doesn't fit in War Thunders matches. Enduring confrontation if they ever worked on that and made it more dynamic would be fire for this.
Just air/ground RB? No, isssa shit
thanks bro i had a gun to my head saying i have to play it but this video saved me!
As a swedish main, I acknowledge ur point and yes it is not so good of a plane, limited option on term of arment but as of now its the best we have 😂😂 that can do CAS role while in reality we will get sniped by pantsir all the time. Its just AJ-37 with 2 extra aim-9J
The pilot snipe was so funny lol
Can’t really call a missile power crept because a subjectively better missile got added tbf
May man thinks SRAAM maneuvering all aspect missiles aren’t the definition of power crept
@@perennialEl flare resistance is better and close range turning is also better because the python accelerates too fast for it to turn at close ranges
@@perennialE’s not better at close range it overshoots bc it’s too fast. I could probably dm you a clip of a shot the python couldn’t hit, as for the flare resistance I’m not even sure anymore I’ve heard there are inconsistencies with values in the files and actual performance of things in game which at least from my experience seems to be the case also I haven’t seen any proof of them having the same values I’ve just seen 2 pictures of the same values but neither of them had the missile names so can’t trust it
@@perennialE lmao
Glad you made this video, I have no desire to play it at all haha.
I do wonder how good it will be in ground rb because of the four mavericks which is better then the AJ37's payload of two mavericks
I really love the Viggens but dam the AJS is just miserable to play. Luckily the next planes that can be added, JAS 39 Gripen and Finnish F-18Cs, will have better CAS abilities. I am of the belief we aren't too far away from seeing these aircraft in the game. When the time comes we will be seeing F-16s and F-18s running around every NATO/Western nation tree for premium aircraft. With that, Sweden will get more CAS ability from the Danish and/or Norwegian F-16s as either premiums or whole additions to the main tech tree.
It's so stupid how gaijin decided to copy and paste a bunch of F-16s to China, Italy and Japan but decided to skip Sweden even though they were truly the only one lacking in a useable CAS
For all intensive purposes we wont be getting an improvement to CAS till new modern planes are added. Till then all we can do is hope.
Can you do a video on the a32 since it has a custom loadout now I think it is a lot better specially ground batrle
Im just gonna get it becuse its the only plane on the swedish TT i dont have and then im not gonna use it unless they lower the br
The issue I see is the pylons are limited the weapons you can get are bad and sweden really doesnt have any decent air options for ground pounding
This thing should be 10.0 like the A10 and so on...
Tbh they need to add the jas 39 gripen
people gotta remember this a strike aircraft. its like comparing the F4E to the J. or the S. Different purpose built but has some of the same capabilities. its not a specific air to air plane. AJ not A
They just need to add the grippen
I swear the aim9j is sometimes funny.
That is a great point sometimes for some reason it pulls pass its gimbal limit
i get more kills with aim 9J because its got shorter afterburner lifetime and theres less chance that enemies would see the rocket
@@hertbex896 I actually don't know if it was intentional or it's just a bug or if the actual missile can do that. Because the aim 9p does the same thing.
So I'm not exactly sure. It might have been intentional.
@@lordtouchme3397pull overload depends on speed, so the more speed the more turn rate rocket will have, like SARHs which are much more faster than IRs but they pull much harder
Nooo what did you do to my poor baby
Can you play the kfir c.7 now that it's better
OMG PERENNIAL POLITICAL POLITICS CONFIRMED.
I haven't used this plane yet but it doesn't look to good of a cas plane.
Left gun pod gamer. Based.
at this point I say it's justified at 10.7, ik people don't like the idea of all aspect super sonic fighters at 10.7-9.7 but honestly if the kafir c.2 has taught me anything 11.0 is not safe for aircraft with weak engines and low countermeasures.
The only reason I say the kafir is fine at 11.0 is because you get guns and can carry more while the viggen is a suffer wagon that doesn't even have internal guns
the draw backs of the viggen justify a br of 10.7 especially since basically every American aircraft from 9.7+ gets either some flears or a entire airforces worth of flears *cough* a-10 *cough* av-8a *cough*
Ì reckon just go ballsy and take only the rb74's because the 2 gun pods are so heavy and not useful in most situations in which the average swedish main encounters
As a Swede I approve of this skin
Whyyyyy are you playing a ground attack aircraft in Air RB and rating its performance in there?!
V I G G E N
Nah bruh, u right
This viggen is just not good, but as a die hard swed player, i gotta grind it
4:59 be greatful compressor stalls arent modeled into wt lmao
he mentioned it later my bad☠
Hi, where can I find the Blåhaj user skin?
yipeee sweden top tier CAS is now slightly less trash
AJ37 was a great grinder for the JA37, mostly bc the lenses were dogshit
Do the Su-39 Its so bad in Air RB
that is a bird
should you play it?
short answer: no
long answer: also no
regards, a long time sweden player
and also:
should you play Sweden air in general right now?
no.
Though they added like 4 planes to the swedish tech tree today.
@@j100j huh?
they added the AJS 37 and nothing else
so basically they added nothing
@@j100j which 4 planes?
@@zahnatom I meant today not with la royale.
@@AZ-dj1ni J29F, J32B, saab105 and perhaps SK60 and A2A
As a sweden player I can say tha this probably sucks and I am lucky to have just gotten the JA37D before they recuire this for it.
they require it now? oh man am i lucky.
@@x_Degurechaff_x I said they will. They have not yet made it so but often when nee vehicles are added to minor nations they are made to be required to proceed.
Mmmm yes, says is terrible, yet turns with full afterburner, doesn't look up AT ALL and gets clapped by a Phoenix and DOESN'T use it's manouverability,
SKILL. ISSUE.
Ikea planes fun
link for the user skin?
Hmmm, right hand side gang all the way!
Muh blahaj skin
Sad it’s rank 7 but still kinda cool I guess
all the cool weapons of the AJS is not on game, dunno why introduce it before introducing these types of weapons.
Aww man.
Also your predictions for it going down in BR are way too ambitious since it's a Swedish (minor nation plane), and not something like TRAM (I know it's a flying boulder) that gets I think 4x 9L or Su25s that get to bully 9.0.
This thing would be nice at 10.7, but let's face it, it's not American or Soviet plane.
F14B better shot the like
It should be in 10.7
Still waiting for gajin to make sweden top tier actually fun to play..
What exactly do you want them to do?
They can't really do anything right now until the AMRAAM comes, so the 37D can get it. Maybe we could get Gripen A but, probably a little soon yet.
@@evangalinsky2499 Gripen C is confirmed for this year, other than that a JA37D with HMD exists
@@noahhuls they never stated specifically the C as far as I know. They only said the Gripen is coming. Even still, it'll be one of the last updates of the year, if it truly does come this year, not entirely sold on that still. Probably will come the Christmas update.
I've also never heard of the 37D having an HMS or HMD.
@@evangalinsky2499 I mean, other than just giving the gunpods on the AJ tracers (Realistically they would have them) Just a little bit of balancing, Likeee BR balancing specifically. The 37D is fine where its at, a little high but it does have 24Js so cant really complain, But mainly the AJs is just.. not good where its at right now, I'd like them to lower its BR, Which kind of causes a domino effect
@@evangalinsky2499 YES, they was specific mention the JA39C for this year
J7e should get pythons. Change my mind
Nigel when are you gonna rename the channel NileAir
Gaijin gimped this thing with its armament so much bruh.
How?
@@filipdolker8219 it should have gotten it’s rb75T air to ground missle :(
0:03 you hate the skin? It is the best skin of all the viggens...
@@perennialE it still looks great 🙂
Ikea. Hehehehe.
Bro where'd you get that skin?
@@perennialE Where might one find said JA37D skin?
@@DieErsteKartoffelWT Live blåhaj ("Blue shark" in swedish) I was looking at it the other day but am not sure if I remembered to download.
@@j100j Yeah I tried finding it on WT live but no such luck
china players says "first time?"
So.. you're saying it's a bad aircraft because it's bad at dogfighting, even though it wasn't made for dogfighting? *Sir it's a strike aircraft*
Actually it's a multirole aircraft, but even if it was purely just a strike aircraft, it would still need to be good as a fighter as well to be viable in Air RB.
@@perennialE Fair enough
See Im actually glad you trashed the viggen in this vid. It dserves to be trash talked because it's literally a 10.3 CAS plane pretending to be a 11.3 only because it has aim9ls that we hardly ever use and it still carries less ground ordinances compared to other 10.3 CAS jets
the numbers on the wings, tail, and front are atrociously inaccurate :(
@@perennialE one day i will correct it
Its just a limitation of the shitty missions. Real world ajs doctrine was coming in hauling absolute dickass, supersonic, so low the crew chief would be picking small mammal fragments off the leading edges, popping up before the Russians had any Idea you were even in the zip code, dropping an assload of dumb bombs or an entire small nations worth of unguided rockets on a pre-planned target with a few friends and being back over the horizon before ivan was done feeling the blast wave. Alternatively you and several dozen of your best friends were yeeting rb-04s to help convert the baltic fleet into submarines.
The fact anyone dies to 54s kind of blows my mind. Just notch the TWS launches and F pole the STT launches.
I have very low success rate with 54a so I'd say it's usually just people who are distracted, afk or low level premium jets.
pren e
I know this came out before phlys video today, but hes a bigger YTer to u tots copied his title
Why are you dogfighting in this? It is for ground attack. And also, why fly outside the cockpit. You get no feeling like flying the plane.
you literally need to dogfight or do air combat in general to research the ground ordnance... and anything but the rb75s are obsolete at its battle rating which means you have to do a hell of a lot of air combat just to unlock something decent for ground.
Can you buy me the f5c that would mean the world to me
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