Rob Price: The Heresy of Pantheism and Deism

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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2013
  • Session from the 2013 G. Campbell Morgan Theology Conference, sponsored by Biola University's Torrey Honors Institute.

Komentáře • 37

  • @alfsaav
    @alfsaav Před 10 lety +11

    He doesn't quite understand what the definition of pantheism is, and gives it attributes that it doesn't have.

  • @s.r.howell1297
    @s.r.howell1297 Před 10 lety +13

    This man is criticizing two ancient modes of thought through the medium of his own ancient mode of thought, which he considers to be the truth. These kids are not being educated so much as brainwashed.

  • @tochiland
    @tochiland Před 11 lety +3

    Ah, Einstein had pantheistic/deistic beliefs about God. Why attack every view that is in disagreement with your own instead of simply promoting what you believe in? Calling something 'heresy' will only have an effect on people who already adhere to your system of belief so its not like you need to convince them out of what they believe.

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis5596 Před 9 lety +3

    Ever considered that the universe never needed a creator?

  • @TheGuiltsOfUs
    @TheGuiltsOfUs Před 3 lety +1

    We are all God/Krishna

  • @malek6021
    @malek6021 Před 10 lety +5

    Pantheists pray, actually they pray a lot it's just called observation and meditation, when they eat when they take a shower..., determinism doesn't necessarily bring to fat, actually it's bring to the real understanding of forgiveness. This man is blind it's not his fault.

  • @NavaidSyed
    @NavaidSyed Před 3 lety +6

    Freedom does not come from obedience. Freedom comes from responsibility within the limits of natural laws.

  • @TheGuiltsOfUs
    @TheGuiltsOfUs Před 3 lety

    REALIZE THE KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS WITHIN

  • @antoniopooper
    @antoniopooper Před 7 lety +4

    It's only heresy if your approach to the subject is based on your belief in supposed holy scriptures. The same scriptures which mention a talking snake and a flaming chariot. It seems that the heresy has more credibility.

  • @superyouper
    @superyouper Před 8 lety +2

    There are many beliefs in Pantheism as there are many beliefs in Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, etc. Pantheism basically believes that God is nature and nature is God. The god that man prays to is the god that man created. We have always existed in time and space in one form or another. We are energy that has manifested itself in human form. We are all connected with all life. One positive aspect of Pantheism is that Pantheists have never held an inquisition, went to war against non-believers, or discriminated against other beliefs.

  • @kyleknight9686
    @kyleknight9686 Před 4 lety +11

    "So Panthiests have this belief that the universe is fatalistic..."

  • @KevZen2000
    @KevZen2000 Před 11 lety +3

    The reason why Rob Price considers pantheism, and deism as a 'heresy,' is because they are not compatible with his preconceived ideas. Pantheism, and deism are some of the most logical, and consistent views on God, although they still fall short. Pantheism turns Nature into God, which is about the best view on God as you get. In Pantheism, science/math are the 'word' of God, along with the Cosmo being intelligent, rational, and consistent, instead of being blind, and meaningless.

  • @calebcunningham4106
    @calebcunningham4106 Před 10 lety +6

    For those interested in hearing a deist describe deism try reading Thomas Paine's book The Age of Reason. You can find it free online.

  • @zensurfer8768
    @zensurfer8768 Před 3 lety +3

    Intresting how any thought that threatens the collection plate is instantly declared as heresy.

  • @Heckaradad
    @Heckaradad Před 11 lety +2

    What we call the universe is simply what happens, and every event is part of the larger unfolding of the entire universe. We don't need to resort to outmoded beliefs in "Kings" "Lords" or "Heavenly Fathers" to explain nature. Reality happens of its own accord, it doesn't need any magical spirit to animate it, nor does reality require praise or worship for its efforts, nor is it motivated by desire, ego or a quest to reach a goal, achieve a purpose or overcome obstacles.

  • @matthewrobson6896
    @matthewrobson6896 Před 10 lety +8

    The gospels in the bible all disagree with each other. There are so many contradictions in the bible. Study Pantheism for yourself instead of listening to this man's false teachings.

  • @kevanhubbard9673
    @kevanhubbard9673 Před 3 lety +1

    A shame that you didn't cover Panentheism that transcent subset,along with Pandeism,of Pantheism.

  • @tochiland
    @tochiland Před 10 lety

    Also I wanted to mention that I understand his denunciation of Arianism because it directly involves Christianity. To me the "heresies" it makes the most sense to reprimand are the ones that "twist" Christianity or change its original teachings into something new (islam, mormonism, even roman catholicism)....

  • @tochiland
    @tochiland Před 10 lety +2

    I didn't say that all religious views are "equally valid" otherwise I would believe all religions are true. What I said wasn't meant to be an attack on him, but Christianity and Islam have the monopoly on denigrating other beliefs and those who adhere to them. Of course pantheism is not compatible with Christianity, because it isn't Christianity. It's like people who quote the Bible to display why another religion is wrong, it seems redundant and obvious.

  • @PanDeism
    @PanDeism Před 11 lety +2

    Pandeism fully accounts for, and so supersedes, all scriptures and 'scriptural history' from all of the faiths which have failed to achieve universality of dissemination (which includes all of the Abrahamic faiths, for which there are even today people living who have not heard of them, and hundreds of millions who died without hearing of them, hence their gods are incompetent to disseminate universally). Ah, but Pandeism is disseminated in the universal truths of physics and mathematics!!