LONGER & MORE POWER - RYOBI PBLRC25 Extended Reach Ratchet Review
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- We got our hands one the @RYOBITOOLSUSA One+ HP Extended Reach Ratchet set to hit the @HomeDepot shelves in October 2021. Bare tool price will be $159 and this includes the #RyobiHP 3-year warranty as well. We put this new longer ratchet to the test, and it seems to have more power as well. With a max RPM of 230, torque is stated to be 55 ft-lbs. We do some testing to find out if this new Ryobi PBLRC25 Brushless Extended Ratchet is really that strong.
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As a Mechanic I'm not worried about the battery so much compared to a 100ft air hose plus nipples and couplings. I like the idea of being able to use a cordless in a quick and grab moments. Whether it's hot days or cold days in the shop or outside, this can be very handy for some quick work under the hood or interior. I wouldn't use this for torquing but definitely worth it's weight in Gold moving about over fasteners.
That's a great perspective. Thanks for watching
Good point on INTERIOR. Often I'll just use hand ratchet because I'm afraid that the air hose might get something dirty.
Ryobi makes up for the bulky battery with it's torque ratings since you probably will have trouble wrenching it in tight spaces. I just think this would be a great tool if it was slimmer like the Milwaukee unless by passed.
Still think it's too bulky but you have to put that torque somewhere.
I do hope that Ryobi's going to release a right-angle impact driver like the one Kobalt has.
Pretty impressive. But ryobi is getting out of control with their prices. $20 more and you can get the milwaukee fuel high speed. 50 more and you can get the milwaukee fuel extended, and you dont have to deal w the brick below your hand. I am shocked and impressed by the results, but being that expensive defeats the purpose of buying ryobi.
Another way to look at it though is for someone, like me, who has several of their batteries and tools, but wants to get some higher performance tools. Switching brands means having to buy a new battery system. By offering higher performance tools on the sheet platform, Ryobi is providing an easy upgrade path, on the same battery platform you already own, which I appreciate.
So your saying I can get the job done for $50 less. Count me in. That's why I love ryobi HP. Does everything all the big tool brands do for cheaper.
@@JamesMKE definitely not everything but will get most jobs done for the average homeowner
Its not just their new offerings. Even their current offerings have seen a pretty big price jump the last year or two, and even the last couple months. It isnt just their new stuff or their "high performance" stuff that has got more expensive. That was one of the main reason ppl went with ryobi is because it was considerably cheaper. Now its not. Thats my point
@@jacksmith2315 Product prices are going up all over, it's not just Ryobi. Sales, etc. are just delaying their effect but factories are facing higher cost for materials, higher cost for shipping, costly supply chain disruptions/delays, etc.
The latest consumer price index revealed that consumer prices in April jumped 4.2% year over year, which is the largest increase since the Great Recession. Food prices rose 2.4%, while energy leaped by 25% and used cars and trucks climbed 21%, just to name a few examples...
The following link only covers the US supply chain issues but it's a world wide issue right now... Like Festool's German manufacturing plants are seeing month long delays...
www.reuters.com/business/us-manufacturing-sector-slows-april-amid-supply-challenges-2021-05-03/
Some things are just getting hit sooner than others but it's spreading and it doesn't look good for at least the next year or so...
My team (Yellow) should be releasing their ratchet in spring 2022. Since I do have a couple of One+ batteries I got the 3/8 and 1/4" extended reach for $200 and only for pulling nuts and bolts off after breaking them loose by hand ( 7:22 ). I spend so much time with a regular ratchet just turning bolts or nuts at a low torque..... 1" of threads on a bolt with 24 threads per inch is 24 complete revolutions takes forever by hand especially when you have 8-12 bolts.
A key concept most reviewers don't know is the individual cells making up a battery pack. They are made up of 16850 cells, 3.6v each. The 1-4Ah packs are 5 cells in series. 5-6Ah are 10 cells in series-parallel. The 8-10Ah are 15 cells in series-parallel. The 5-6Ah typically will provide double the Amperage (so more torque) and 9+Ah 3x the amperage.
Also, different 16850 cells have different charge/discharge rates (called C) which differs from Capacity (Ah). Two cells of identical Ah capacity can have different max discharge rates, so one 2Ah cell could provide 10A where another cell can provide 25A discharge, thus give you more torque (google: 18650 cell database).
So the 6Ah High Performance battery WILL give max torque to the ratchet, where the 2Ah standard battery will provide much less torque.
wow I'm amazed that the ratchet head indexes while milwaukee ratchets do not. Sometimes it would be nice to swivel the m12 ratchet head around and stick the 6.0xc battery on there for extra oomph on those fasteners where a CP battery cant turn the nut but an XC can. I suspect that indexing feature will make it to Milwaukee ratchets soon
I have the shorter 3/8 ratchet and to be honest I was impressed with it. I was doing a break job and it broke the caliper bracket bolts free. I was shocked. I moved on from it to an M12 3/8 ratchet but my Ryobi is still in my tool box and gets used every now and then. Thanks for sharing, we learn a lot from all these videos you do.
I’m so glad you made this video. I was definitely looking forward to it, and it didn’t disappoint. I’m definitely getting one when it comes out!
Let us know what you think of it. Thanks for watching.
Ryobi has been pushing lately... they're not messing around...Good stuff TJ...👍🏁
The first ratchet solves the battery with the rotating head. It's just odd that the trigger isn't in the correct position. The new ratchet has this same issue. The battery bump issue could have been solved even easier by a simple 180 degree rotation of the battery. This would have the bump sticking out the back and the battery would almost never get in the way. Keeping the rotating head would have been a nice way to ensure the battery doesn't get in the way. I know it would be odd to put a battery in "backwards" but that would have been a small price to pay to fix this annoying issue.
I don't understand why they didn't make the body shorter on the extended ratchets. I am sure that could have been optimized in some way. I do like the extra power of the new ratchet, but the huge overall length is a big annoyance. The price is also outrageous for a Ryobi ratchet especially considering the other ratchets are almost half that at $80. Time to do some thinking.
They need to make a stacked pack. That way it could be the height of a 2 cell pack, but only be as long as the battery clips. This would allow it to work in any tool/charger, but allow them to make tools with a shorter, open ended battery attachment.
That way with the stacked pack the tool wouldn't stick out as far.
@@ionstorm66 Like Makita's ratchet
Looking forward to this tool. Definitely will be adding this to my collection LOL. Thanks for the review.
Hi from down under. Just bought one of these after watching your video. Man! it does not dissapoint. Was very surprised on how much torque it has.
Great to hear! Thanks for supporting us on the opposite side of the globe.
You know, I was actually thinking of getting that 12v Skil ratchet, as it seemed like good quality and value, but this has more power, reach, and I can stick to one battery platform
I've noticed a few people wondering why Ryobi is introducing these tools that are more expensive and pushing up against some of the higher end brands since they think "Ryobi= Cheap just buy Milwaukee etc."
But I actually like this approach that they're taking by offering higher performance tools in the same battery platform, so if you want to upgrade to a more prosumer tool, you don't have to buy into a whole new battery platform. Instead you can keep using the same platform you have and all the other tools that you have to go along with it. That's a nice upgrade path to higher performance tools.
prosumer...very nice and accurate description! thats exactly what i think, DIYers trying to save some money not paying someone else!!
Could the 2ah non hp battery be the main factor its not reaching the max torque stated by Ryobi? Perhaps the 4ah HP battery would make the difference.
Very good point. I have the new ryobi impact (which touts 600 ft./lbs) and was able to collapse a crush sleeve on the pinion when regearing my jeep but only after I put it in the 6 amp hour battery. The 2 amp hour didnt have enough power to get it started. Saved me a ton of time and effort from having to do it manually with cheater bars, etc.
All they'd have to do is make a battery that looks like the Milwaukee battery, but fits the standard Ryobi socket. Have it come with a locking adapter so that you can also use the larger batteries if you want to. It might tack on a few extra dollars, but then you can switch around as you need to. I mean, it's too late now, the design is done, but still...
I use to run dewalt but now I’m going all ryobi. There batteries last longer the impacts are very strong and they handle abuse very well! My tools get thrown and full of oil and water so they are champs
Ryobi hp anything never let me down the money saved for more tools is bigtime worth it
For ratchets I’m gunna go M12. I love my Kobalt 24v but that M12 form factor is amazing and worth adding a battery platform IMO at the price.
Considered it too, biggest problem with M12 ratchets is that Makita has an infinitely much better handle. M12 isnt made for human hands, neither is the Ryobi.
Exactly what I’m struggling with. I’m on the Ryobi 18v platform but know the Milwaukee m12 is better.
just wish they came with a slimmer battery design.. Thanks for sharing
That's a great value for home if it goes on sale. The only thing that kills it is that big battery 🔋 that gets in the way.
Which is why I somewhat dislike the regular version, I'll also grab this too
Looks like it has the threaded hole for the belt hook! I hate that my Milwaukee ratchet lacks that.
Idk why everyone is so concerned about torque. To expect a high torque value from this form factor is rediculous. However the torque it offers is impressive. I care more about rpm and maneuver ability. I am torn between the brushless extended and the brushed normal length ratchet. I mostly work on cars so having the extra few inches on the anvil there would make it a bit nicer, but it's 2x the price of the non brushless normal length 😢
And where is ridged…??🤷🏼♂️
Right now small rachet 3/8 is 80 dls battery and charger if some one wants to try, homedepot
Grat review!!! I'm impressed with the tool, I was really planning to get it until i heard the price, 159 dollars 😬, you can get milwaukee for this price
No you can't get a Milwaukee for this price. It's 229 for the entended reach one.
Catch a sale. I got the 1/2 inch impact wrench and the 3/8 inch extended ratchet for $200.
Paid $129 for it today.
@@socialjusticewarrior9601 lol im sure u did literally work for milwaukee these do not go on sale bud.
@@theamishhitman71 Well I don't know what to tell ya Amish boy. I bought it for $129
Ryobi did it they tryed to get right as pro category and their almost there
at $159, it's priced pro unfortunately
@@onlywenilaugh6589 you can get it on sale. i picked one up for 119.99 the other day at my home depot. You can get ryobi tools for cheap by shopping deals
Great review thanks it will be great nut on and off tool as for torque doesn't matter because you shouldn't be braking torque with type tool anyway but nice to know 150 ft max without braking it. Like indexing head.
I bought this to remove a bolt holding my caliber and the torque was to weak. I had to take it back and buy an impact wrench
This thing would be awesome for interior, under dash, and other places that suck to drag an air hose.
No other review has shown using the tool as a a manual to help the power drive. I work on cars, that's how we used the pneumatic version, good to know it works here also! Ya sold me.
Good review, that ryobi 3/8 looks like a monster lol
Does one need to purchase impact sockets for this rachet? Or would chrome sockets withstand suffice?
Does anyone else wonder how warranty on this stuff actually is compared to brands like milwaukee? I mean, if it dies on you, is the warranty worth a crap? In the past, getting Ryobi spare parts wasn’t easy either.
I believe, within 90 days you can just swap it out at HD, or even get your money back. Up to 3-years (as a DIY tool) warranty through TTi/Ryobi. Let us know if you have any issues. Thanks for watching.
Man, the intro music tore my speakers up! Damn boy!
Sorry about that. Thanks for watching.
great vid thatnks! i wanted to be sure i can use it as a wrench and 150ftlbs lmao yeah man i love it
The more of these ratchets I see the more I like my Milwaukee.1/4 ratchet it's still the only one that can go anywhere on acar
You should do links to stuff you review where you get paid if someone buys from a link on your review. Your video sold me on this. Debatinf an m12 set up vs buying this thay i alrwady have a ton od batteries for.
Maybe I’m just dumb, but if it’s rated at 55 ft lbs and measuring at 30 ft lbs, how is it able to loosen a bolt that’s tightened to 65 ft lbs. Wouldn’t it require the same force to loosen a bolt as it would to tighten?
Have you tested the Kobalt ratchet ? Be interested in a comparison with this one l
Hi Tim, you always produce a very informative video, I like this tool it’s very interesting I’m staying with Milwaukee I remember Milwaukee being around before ryobi, plus for a few more bucks I can get a Milwaukee brand new, ryobi is supposed to be the Budget tool! just my opinion, ty, Bob,
Honestly, the battery is annoying but not a deal breaker. Would I prefer a shorter battery? Absolutely. Does the bulky battery make the tool too cumbersome to use? No.
my only concern with it is that 30+ ft pounds of torque is almost instant, so I am worried it'd way overtorque small fastners
It would be hard to over-torque. You would have to be really slow on the trigger. Thanks for watching.
Could you test the craftsman 3/8 brushless impact wrench ? Wanted to know if it's any good
I have it and it’s pretty solid only 35 foot pounds but it can also be used as a manual ratchet. Just used it yesterday to strip my cars back seats out broke every bolt loose definitely solid and can’t go wrong for $79 especially if your on the v20 system already
When are these ratchets coming out
Let’s call it 70 ft pounds because it can do it but it will take a while to rotate
so if I get the extended 1/4 do you think it wil be a good purchase( anther thought its a I guess if I had one of those special gator grip universal adapters this I would guess would certainly work better as I think ink that type of socket is not recommeded for use in impact rate tools !!!!) ?????
I love science!
What you, I think actually dominated was the difference the size of the socket and fasteners have different load-resistance.
I think if you tried tightening a large fastener, say 15/16" or so, to say 65ftlbs, and a small fastener say 9/16" too the same 65ftlbs, and using a standard length 1/2" ratchet and the tool you used at beginning of the video, just for fun. I'd like to see what the tools says.
Do you get more torque by using the High Performance batteries?
I don’t like Milwaukee as much bought an accessory and the battery said it’s 6.0 Ah and it’s only works for about 30 minutes
Does this mean it’ll tighten to 55 ft lbs with a larger battery? My lawnmower requires 55 ft lbs to tighten the blade and I’d like this to handle that.
When the battery is in the tool, it has a similar form factor to any other tool out there. I don't get why you keep complaining about that? The issue is when it's out the tool. Then it's form factor becomes a bit of a nuisance.
is that the new led handheld light I see in the background? 👀
Only thing I’d like it can cach fire 🔥 it’s not brushless.
Can my bigger battery work on this?
Owners manual says, "NOTICE:
Do not turn the tool off and attempt to use the tool
manually to gain extra torque on the nut or bolt being
tightened. Doing so could cause damage to the fastener
and/or the tool.
"
And it will void the warranty, too! By this reviewer doing what is said by the manufacturer NOT to do gives all the opinion it's ok to do so and could cause viewers to buy and use like the reviewer did, without reading the manual like most don't.
Can you review the craftsman cmcf820 is a 3 speed impact driver
Interesting even if no one would use a nut runner like that.
Good review as always.
Where can I get a case to store this, battery & charger?
Place the tool onto the counter or into vise to eliminate human error. Your body flexing absorbs torque! Smarten up!!!
15:11
aH rating is just for run time, not any stronger because its still a 20V battery and the brushless motor runs on 20V ...
So a 20V 2aH is the same as a 20V 9aH ... both are 20V batteries and will drive the motor at the same force. The motor does not get anymore power on a 9ah vs 2ah ...
Its been 8 months now, have you since learned that is not true?
Damn, 65 fl lbs. looks like I bought the wrong ratchet. I got the new Milwaukee high speed extended ratchet….that thing can’t even do 15 ft lbs. Annoying when you have to manually loosen everything. Especially when you break loose a rusty bolt manually, and it still won’t spin it after that.
So are they saying you can use this as you showed and force the wrench to tighten and loosen bolts like a regular ratchet? I thought they didn’t recommend that?
So no comment from OP?!?! Can you use this tool to manually tighten bolts etc?
You should not use it to break lug nuts, but anything under the hood, brake caliper bolts (that are not set at some ungodly torque value) even some suspension bolts you are fine to use it manually
They don't so do it at your own risk but seeing he went all the way to 150 ft/lbs and didnt have a problem i think if you gave it a little extra here and therr shouldnt be an issue. At least that's what i will probably do. Any more than that and ill use the impact wrench instead.
Wish ryobi had a 12 volt platform like miluakeee
They do, but unfortunately it’s limited to just a drill/driver. It’s handy for small projects, but I also have the M12 Milwaukee line, so I don’t use it often.
how can i get the extended version in the uk
Dcf894 please
Where can I get one of those meters to measure torque?
Several different manufacturers make them. They don't work for measuring torque on impact drivers or wrenches. Thanks for watching.
All such ratchets should be "extended" (which is a stupid buzzword since that length should be standard for a cordless tool) because shorter tools are worse to use being severely limited.
Bought this for $82 from hp
Can't be that. Thanks for watching.
Man, they better release this one in EU within a reasonable timeframe... Still waiting for that darn 3/8th impact though, so Im not too hopeful :/
Wish we had an answer for you. Thanks for watching.
The Ryobi isnt strong enough for 3/8 sockets, EU consumer law doesnt allow them to blame damaged tools on user error and it would be too expensive to replace every damaged ratchet. Thats why EU got only 1/4 inch model of Ryobi, that will continue unless something has changed lately. Just get the Makita, no extended reach but superior in every other way.
@@pflaffik there's a 3/8 ratchet from Ryobi in EU though... :/
@@pflaffik model number R18RW3
Speed test!
At least they tried
Wow brushless moter
Thanks for watching.
30 lb-ft?
isn't that less than the standard version??
It's actually rated at 55 ft lbs, but Tim's test here shows it (pretty easily) breaking nuts free torqued at 65 ft lbs. Plus, the in manual input test, he demonstrates it can easily manage to break nuts free, torqued at 150+ ft lbs. The original can maybe handle about 1/3 of that manual force. So, this is DEFINITELY an upgrade, all around.
@@richardmejia254 I guess I should've watched the whole video first!!
Dig it!
It would be great except for that battery..
Thanks for watching.
Does tti have a minor sponsorship on this channel? It’s mostly tti brands.
What a stupid question. Hey buddy who makes the most popular power tool brands. TTI. What company is releasing tons of new tools from these brands. TTI. That's like asking why all basketball commentators talk about NBA basketball only.
@@JamesMKE Yes, it's been awhile since the other companies have released anything new and these reviews are on new products...
Makita, just released a whole new line, there’s a slew of DeWALT that hasn’t reviews. And a bunch of stuff coming from them about to be released. (Some of which he has at the shop and doesn’t even need to buy)
Bosch just released new stuff. Hercules released a bunch of cordless ratchets?
TTI is but a small piece of the pie. And they’re getting to be the snap on of hype.
@@juanc5149 And you do know they have more than one channel? Like Pro Tool Reviews, along with three websites, each with a different tool range focus like OPE is focused on outdoor tools... They've covered the Dewalts and the new Makita 40v's. They've done Flex, which is from Chervon , they've done Kobalt, Metabo HPT, etc.
@@juanc5149 Since their channels are type specific the tools have to be both new and apply to the type the channel covers...
XMAS 2021 MILWAUKEE vs Ryobi 🎻🥁🥁🙊❓🤔
I will pay 159 rather than 229 for the m12
The Only problem with the ratchet is the Big battery 🤦🏼♂️
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. czcams.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Ryobi needs a 12v line
Aren't they just the professional line of Black & decker? And I believe DeWalt is affiliated with them as well. I'm sorry but as a professional those are throwaway tools nothing more they never last long they wear out a lot faster and the batteries are always junk anyway that's why I bought Makita and Milwaukee yes it's more in price but you definitely get your money's worth with those guys, homeowners Ryobi would be the tool for you what to the rest of us they are throwaway tools but nice job on the video trying to convince otherwise.
I'm not (currently) a professional (was, once upon a time, tho) but I know plenty of pros who use Ryobi & have had excellent luck, pleased with the performance and durability. But, I don't disagree, that Makita & Milwaukee offer superior products. That said, I'd put this particular tool up against the extended reach Milwaukee (which, I absolutely LOVE, btw....just can't justify the cost, ATM), & firmly believe this would hold it's own. Plus, one huge benefit w/ Ryobi is, ain't nobody trying to swipe Ryobi from the jobsite/shop, like they would (& DO) with the Makita and Milwaukees, lol....
JP don’t form current opinions based on old/outdated evidence.
Its too bad the head is not retractable
Wow that just looks silly. It’s too bulky and that battery will get hung up. Why design it in an L shape? Sticking with dewalt for power tools mostly. Went with skil 1/4 impact for my ratchet cheap and has great torque and rpm
Use a hp battery there is a difference
too bulky with the ryobi battery, I dont want that when working on a car
Until they redesign that brick they call a battery, I'm not interested in their products.
We don't think they ever will. That's their schtick, that every battery works in every tool, old and new. Thanks for watching.
Its just so big 🤦🤦🤦
Buy cheap buy twice
It breaks the record for the worst form factor of a 'ratchet' ever.
Paid shill. Hard to take serious about review.
We will let that be your little secret. That's just not the case. If you have any discrepancies on any of our content, we will be happy to justify our results or admit our faults. Otherwise, making generalized assumptions is rarely a good call. Thanks for watching.