SHANE VAN BOENING VS JAYSON SHAW - 2023 DERBY CITY CLASSIC BIGFOOT 10-BALL CHALLENGE

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  • Another match in the long standing rivalry between Shane Van Boening and Jayson Shaw, from the 2023 Derby City Classic Big Foot 10-Ball Challenge.
    This was from round two of the event, so both players had already had a chance to get acclimated to the table.
    These two Hall of Fame First Balloters have faced off so many times that they each know the other’s game very well. The winner would be locked into at least 3rd place, and the loser would be out of the event.
    Jeremy Jones and Mark Wilson were in the booth
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Komentáře • 180

  • @davidblack4695
    @davidblack4695 Před rokem +121

    Jeremy Jones is gonna go down. In the future. As the greatest nightball commentator of all time

  • @johndesousa7379
    @johndesousa7379 Před rokem +46

    The game is alot more beautiful when no jump shots are allowed. Great match.

    • @do_notknow_much
      @do_notknow_much Před 11 měsíci +4

      Or jumping only allowed with your regular pool cue. No specialized mini jump cues allowed. Sometimes you just need to get over the edge of a ball and that can be done with the regular sized cue.

    • @johndesousa7379
      @johndesousa7379 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@do_notknow_much I like to see kicks and escapes and kick safes. Jumping takes all that out of the game. Less imagination.

    • @imothed6140
      @imothed6140 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@do_notknow_muchi always do jump shot with my play cue's. bcs i can't afford jump cue's 😅

    • @Gizamalukeix
      @Gizamalukeix Před 9 měsíci

      Right! I jump with a normal cue. I can even jump with a meucci. I don't use baby cues. @@do_notknow_much

    • @IAMDBC
      @IAMDBC Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@do_notknow_muchi was jumping with a full length meucci!!

  • @mogwopjr
    @mogwopjr Před rokem +54

    The conversation between JS and SVB at the end, it's nice to see rivals having a good hearted chat after a match like this. Thank you for posting the match for us to enjoy

    • @davidg.9561
      @davidg.9561 Před rokem

      I was going to post the same thing. Seems like there had been some bad blood between these two for a while now. It's not to see them get along (from the little bit we can see)

    • @runningman1207
      @runningman1207 Před rokem +1

      because of rack 14, Jason thought SVB hit the ten ball first..

    • @runningman1207
      @runningman1207 Před rokem

      1:27min

    • @runningman1207
      @runningman1207 Před rokem +1

      1:27:00

    • @viethoagnphoto
      @viethoagnphoto Před rokem

      @@runningman1207 1:27:19

  • @mrmotosasa1
    @mrmotosasa1 Před rokem +29

    My 2 favorite announcers. Jeremy and Mark are so knowledgeable and interesting to listen to. I think they are actually helping me become a better player. thanks gentlemen

  • @joebradley1520
    @joebradley1520 Před rokem +26

    I've noticed Shaw has been very humble lately, starting to like his class now

    • @dummy999
      @dummy999 Před rokem +6

      I know right? What's up with Shaw having grace 😂 Like a neutered dog compared to Mosconi Shaw 5 years ago

    • @JeffMTX
      @JeffMTX Před rokem

      I didn’t like him much, but lately I like him. Bet that’s why

    • @johndenver752
      @johndenver752 Před rokem +2

      He was nearly in tears when he lost the pool league to FSR. the way he behaved after that game made me lose all respect for him. its good to show a bitof class after the way he behaved losing that final

    • @edyoung3664
      @edyoung3664 Před rokem

      married with children@@dummy999

    • @larrycheek3588
      @larrycheek3588 Před 10 měsíci

      Hanoi!!! Ahaha

  • @scottboyne8305
    @scottboyne8305 Před rokem +16

    Two of my favorites right there. It's hard to root against them

  • @tommywingate2220
    @tommywingate2220 Před 11 měsíci +4

    These 2 commentators have a synergy that is very positive and comprehensive. I’ve only heard two others do billards and they were awkward at best. Even without a great knowledge of this art it is obvious to this casual observer the earlier HOF comments seem appropriate. Very enjoyable.

  • @duanebruce1539
    @duanebruce1539 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Two great players, great match, and the best comentation in pool. Superb.

  • @SassiKassi420
    @SassiKassi420 Před rokem +7

    Thank you to all of that shared this stream!

  • @panteleomurphy
    @panteleomurphy Před rokem +12

    I feel like the Derby strives to be the most pure format, and I know there’s a reason they do things how they do, but I think winner-break format would be one stroke more pure.

    • @PartyLikeIts1776
      @PartyLikeIts1776 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I hate winner break. I like alternate break. Adds fairness.

  • @OzarkBill
    @OzarkBill Před 11 měsíci +6

    What a classic! These guys never disappoint in head to head. And I'm always glad to see SVB come out on top!
    SVB!!!

  • @rodconner9079
    @rodconner9079 Před rokem +4

    Love watching both these gents! Knew one of 'em was gonna win!!!! :) Let's Gooooooo Be Safe

  • @davidrandell7162
    @davidrandell7162 Před rokem +10

    1:14:32 (Explanation for Mr. Jones) I believe that when the cue ball is so close to the rail that it is sometimes spinning more than the normal amount. In other words when it would be rolling without sliding. Mathematically angular velocity is now greater than v/r this happens when the cue ball is struck higher than 7/10ths it's radius or the point of percussion. (Assuming a level cue.) This is also why it is easier to control topspin than draw--after a certain distance the amount of spin (excluding side) is indepent of cueing height and only dependent on cueball velocity (omega =v/r)

    • @dummy999
      @dummy999 Před rokem

      When does the cueball ever roll before it slides? Isn't it only possible for the cueball to slide first then roll? (or just slide or just roll depending on speed/distance)

    • @robdetuinman2
      @robdetuinman2 Před rokem +2

      It can't ever be good to start a science explanation with: "I believe"

    • @miamiwax5504
      @miamiwax5504 Před 9 měsíci

      🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

    • @jessicaingles6079
      @jessicaingles6079 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@robdetuinman2I believe you're right 😊

  • @thegodofpez
    @thegodofpez Před rokem +4

    Fantastic match. Love watching these legends clash.

  • @rle1020
    @rle1020 Před rokem +5

    Two guys I get the enjoyment of seeing them lose is Shaw and Filler. Both have a cockiness about them that when they lose I’m like yes.

  • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
    @RobertLeBlancPhoto Před rokem +13

    I'd love to know what Shaw was talking to SVB about after the match.

    • @BakerNo.9
      @BakerNo.9 Před rokem

      Me too. What was that about?

    • @boostjunky24
      @boostjunky24 Před rokem +5

      They're ex housemates... They could be talking about anything... Didn't look like a heated discussion... All good...

    • @charickter
      @charickter Před rokem +3

      Did they both have issues with chalk stuck to the cue ball? It appeared as tho' they may have been discussing that. The way SVB picked up the cue ball and inspected it; scraping at it with his fingernail leads me to think maybe so.

    • @trueamerican2305
      @trueamerican2305 Před rokem +8

      If you read his lips shaw says "man you're too great! I'm just a bum when I'm in your presence. .... how can I improve my game dakota?!"
      SVB say "practice lil worrior, you'll get there."
      I could be off a lil here and there but that's the jist

    • @jamest3552
      @jamest3552 Před rokem +1

      Wanna come over later for beers?
      Or could have been the rail first shot on the 1 then all the way around the table without hitting anything and ending straight on the 2. "Shane that was fookin lucky."

  • @Peropero337
    @Peropero337 Před 9 měsíci

    tbh the first time i watched a DCC 9 Ball tournament i thought it was the 90s - 00s, idk why but it really gives me the vibe of it.

  • @tomnekuda3818
    @tomnekuda3818 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Shaw is amazing when he's shooting long across the pasture....good technique.

  • @tomjendra9733
    @tomjendra9733 Před 9 měsíci

    jeremy and mark are the goat commentators

  • @peymanghorbani6390
    @peymanghorbani6390 Před 6 měsíci

    We Persian have an adage “ don’t thank God before eating the food” eat the food firstand then thank God.A message for commentators, don’t rush for celebration and don’t be biased .Just comment don’t take sides.Great match, I have watched it more than twenty times.

  • @josephammons7309
    @josephammons7309 Před rokem +1

    Amazizng match love it

  • @johndenver752
    @johndenver752 Před rokem +2

    What Cue stick is Jayson Shaw using, does anybody know? It is a beauty. I usually dont appreciate cues with no handle wrap, that one however...that is gorgeous

  • @AndrewT
    @AndrewT Před rokem +3

    Beautifully played by both players!

    • @do_notknow_much
      @do_notknow_much Před 11 měsíci

      .773 stat is way below what Shaw usually shoots.

    • @AndrewT
      @AndrewT Před 11 měsíci

      @@do_notknow_much true, but that Stat doesn't take into account everything like difficulty of layout etc

  • @juppderwal918
    @juppderwal918 Před 6 měsíci

    I think the name "Eagle Eye" doesn't come from his eyes,
    but on its ability to turn its head 180 degrees. He walks to his chair, still looking at the table.

  • @PartyLikeIts1776
    @PartyLikeIts1776 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Shane is the billiards GOAT

  • @antoniocardenas3788
    @antoniocardenas3788 Před rokem +1

    Gracias por avisar

  • @raymundozarate
    @raymundozarate Před rokem +1

    Jeremy, God bless you brother. You're awesome! 🙏🏼🤟🏼❤️

  • @CJsResearch
    @CJsResearch Před rokem +1

    JJ, please use your super powers to rid the world of jump cues forever.

  • @dsauce223
    @dsauce223 Před rokem +1

    Looks like a line drive in the box score. Lol, gold.

  • @seanshay6573
    @seanshay6573 Před rokem

    they respect each other

  • @twilightzonepinball
    @twilightzonepinball Před 9 měsíci

    One of these commentators is such a fucking know it all.

  • @somethingtrulyhorrifying

    I don't put much blame on the ref for not correcting who's breaking the next rack, I'm sure it's easy to fall into a lull and let the process automate itself when you have players of this caliber at the table. Still, ref's gotta be on his toes.

  • @amelia_babelia
    @amelia_babelia Před rokem

    fun one to watch

  • @jebryan2795
    @jebryan2795 Před rokem +3

    JJs pool IQ is out of this world ... Great ambassador for pool as well.

  • @wildansyuhada_
    @wildansyuhada_ Před rokem +2

    1:53:56 i’m not sure if the white ball doesn’t hit the rail, need a slow motion replay i think

    • @chrisharris82
      @chrisharris82 Před rokem +1

      4 ball hit a rail doesn't matter if the cue ball did

    • @chrisharris82
      @chrisharris82 Před rokem +2

      my bad wrong shot... yeah cue ball never hit a rail

  • @davideivid82
    @davideivid82 Před rokem +1

    53:24 Why Shaw touches the middle of the rail to announce the shot?

  • @al9030
    @al9030 Před rokem

    Nice Shane!!

  • @sb2h
    @sb2h Před rokem

    First time I feel like the commentators really know what they're talking about. Great insight.

  • @trumanhw
    @trumanhw Před 5 měsíci

    For those of you who've watched a lot of TAR matches ...
    glad we don't have to hear Cotton rattle on about peeench with JJ. 🙂

  • @silvernutoutdoors8892

    Shaw looked kinda stoned at the begining of this lol great match

  • @wealthychef
    @wealthychef Před rokem +1

    I guess they don't use the shot clock, or are very generous with it. E.g. at 1:21:13 SVB is way over time.But happens a lot. So why even run the clock?

    • @markinjhawkland724
      @markinjhawkland724 Před rokem +3

      If you are down on the shot before the clock runs out you can stay down as long as you want and still leagally shoot. If you stand up after the clock runs out it's your extension. If you don't have an extension standing up is a foul. This rule is unique to this tourny AFAIK.

  • @jamest3552
    @jamest3552 Před rokem +1

    1:09:20 SVB misses by nearly a diamond. 😲

  • @chuckkennedy7510
    @chuckkennedy7510 Před 5 měsíci

    Announcers were wrong dam near everytime on shoot selection. Nothing wrong with not guessing at what the pros are doing.

  • @trueamerican2305
    @trueamerican2305 Před rokem +3

    Went from eagle eye to Cockeyed in a matter of 2 hrs.

  • @thisismyoutlet
    @thisismyoutlet Před 5 měsíci

    Did Shaw call the bank on the 1 at 1:00:17 ? I never saw him call it. He looked like he was going for a defensive play

  • @edwardgunawan2689
    @edwardgunawan2689 Před rokem

    Both are goat

  • @bigknocker2264
    @bigknocker2264 Před rokem +1

    Can someone tell me about the rack their using?

    • @bigknocker2264
      @bigknocker2264 Před rokem +1

      Oops...they're using.

    • @markinjhawkland724
      @markinjhawkland724 Před rokem

      @@bigknocker2264 Google Majic Rack Pool. They are little thin films with holes to hole the balls in place. You can get very consistent and tight racks. But using them the pros got a little too good at repeating consistant breaks. That's a big reason why they rack the nine on the spot for nine ball these days if using those types of racks.

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld Před rokem +1

    @44:25 I've never seen that technique before.

    • @jaker1160
      @jaker1160 Před rokem +2

      Mark Williams (snooker)

    • @sb2h
      @sb2h Před rokem +1

      Definitely gonna use it now as a leftie

  • @bigknocker2264
    @bigknocker2264 Před rokem

    Also, is Shaw a dominant right-eyed player? Looked like he has the cue aligned directly under his right eye.

  • @tomaszsosnowski9279
    @tomaszsosnowski9279 Před 7 měsíci

    At 44:20 what kind of technique is this body position?

  • @sonegaskotschabo1714
    @sonegaskotschabo1714 Před rokem +1

    How big is the table Looks huge 😂

  • @bradlee5564
    @bradlee5564 Před rokem

    Jeremy Jones gets paid by the word.

  • @TheJohnCooperShow
    @TheJohnCooperShow Před rokem

    cloth is so quick!

  • @SaulTeeMeat
    @SaulTeeMeat Před rokem

    Shane's REVENGE on the Big Boi

  • @ponfiripatato
    @ponfiripatato Před rokem +1

    33:29 who is Stu Montana? Can anyone enlighten me please
    Edit: Ive seen the face before. But Finally put a name to the face. And after looking Stu up on AZBilliards, I just want to say, THANK YOU STU! God bless.

    • @santiagomolinareina4405
      @santiagomolinareina4405 Před rokem

      I have the same question. always see him on these matches and now that Mark said his name want to know more who he is. I'll do some research (his name is Stuart Mattana)

  • @petefranklin931
    @petefranklin931 Před 8 měsíci

    What size are the pockets on these 10ft tables?

  • @REDSIX
    @REDSIX Před 10 měsíci

    RIP head phone users.

  • @jamest3552
    @jamest3552 Před rokem

    What was Shaw jawing about with Shane at the end?

  • @pugsnhogz
    @pugsnhogz Před 7 měsíci

    @1:01:22 is that squirt contributing to the miss?

  • @salemblair6272
    @salemblair6272 Před rokem

    Wonder what shaw was saying at the end in a way it looked like Shane tapped the ball in the last rack in end shoots

  • @user-lo2fq3gc9q
    @user-lo2fq3gc9q Před 8 měsíci

    I bet the players these days are happy Efrem Reyes got old 😂😂😂

  • @rogerscottcathey
    @rogerscottcathey Před rokem +2

    1:14:32 thought he used reverse for that shot but must have shifted to running. Surprised by that miss

    • @davidrandell7162
      @davidrandell7162 Před rokem +1

      I thought that because he was jacked and hit high he imparted excessive top. Liked your comment.

  • @earlycuyler8719
    @earlycuyler8719 Před rokem

    39:52 tell me the rack wasn’t crooked

  • @zackaryharris7916
    @zackaryharris7916 Před rokem

    Why are these videos so low quality.

    • @sb2h
      @sb2h Před rokem

      Pool doesn't produce a ton of money so they don't have millions to spend on cameras, and it's a two hour video, if you want it in 4k it's gonna take a week to upload.
      Next time use your brain before commenting

  • @MrP316
    @MrP316 Před rokem

    Why is this on a 10 foot table?

  • @ralphwiggum240
    @ralphwiggum240 Před 11 měsíci

    @ 1:56:08 kind of risky... n!ce shot on the 9 to get to the 10.
    @ 1:59:04 1ball in the corner, then around the table 3 rails with this leave for the 2ball, through traffic.

  • @jimg7318
    @jimg7318 Před 10 měsíci

    SVB got a little unlucky on games 4 5 and 6.

  • @RobertCOVELL
    @RobertCOVELL Před rokem

    American Pickers Jeremy!

  • @jonathanbascom904
    @jonathanbascom904 Před rokem

    Agreed…Jeremy Jones best commentator ever….

  • @KopisodaWarung
    @KopisodaWarung Před 10 měsíci

    😄❤❤❤

  • @agareja1
    @agareja1 Před rokem

    Can any of you explain me why do pool players roll their fingers under bridge? Looks so weird....

    • @MikeyD22
      @MikeyD22 Před rokem +1

      I can't think of any logical reason other than extra stability. It certainly doesn't seem necessary.

    • @agareja1
      @agareja1 Před rokem +1

      @@MikeyD22 I thought it's more stable on 4 finger tips. At least in snooker but that do I know....

    • @MikeyD22
      @MikeyD22 Před rokem +1

      @@agareja1 I agree with you and use all four fingers on the table myself.

    • @agareja1
      @agareja1 Před rokem

      @@MikeyD22 I play snooker all my life and never seen it.

    • @repoman2115
      @repoman2115 Před rokem

      Probably just more comfortable for them, no advantage or disadvantage

  • @imgoing2stayonyourmind654

    GUYS...was that a shark move attempt by Eagle Eye ?
    Look at how he picks up the TWO pieces of chalk, and sits them back down. 1:05:40
    Or maybe just innocent nerves or instincts ?

    • @ponfiripatato
      @ponfiripatato Před rokem +2

      I think just nerves after having missed a simple shot.
      All match (before that) Shaw moved Shanes chalks around. Whether moving them out of line of sight or out of the cue stick path. Shane didn’t seem to mind and kept leaving them at the table.
      So I think it was just nerves/in the moment/he’d been grabbing them the whole match.

    • @imgoing2stayonyourmind654
      @imgoing2stayonyourmind654 Před rokem

      @@ponfiripatato Fair enough friend.

    • @kyledilly6267
      @kyledilly6267 Před rokem

      I think he just couldn't believe the ball stayed up and picked up the chalk to walk back to his chair like he normally would, then realized he made a mistake grabbing both and just put them down. I noticed it at the time as well but in this instance I don't think there was any malintent.

    • @onepocketnovice
      @onepocketnovice Před rokem +2

      He was moving them closer to Shane's table approach position so Shane wouldn't have to walk around for it.

    • @jaypisme2343
      @jaypisme2343 Před rokem

      He was bitching about the no rail foul at the end

  • @tylerash3800
    @tylerash3800 Před rokem +1

    Stop talking so much and just let us watch

    • @DanBaytlor-lz4hs
      @DanBaytlor-lz4hs Před rokem +1

      (says the APA 3 rank who gets angry when a 7 or 9 rank calls a timeout on him)

    • @leshundavis3263
      @leshundavis3263 Před rokem

      @@DanBaytlor-lz4hs😂😂😂

  • @nahog99
    @nahog99 Před rokem +1

    Spoiler shield 🛡️

  • @Jlambert1213
    @Jlambert1213 Před rokem

    Could SVB Do anything wrong and the announcers would admit to it?

  • @Pluralizes_everythings.
    @Pluralizes_everythings. Před 8 měsíci

    Announcers are annoying..mute

  • @do_notknow_much
    @do_notknow_much Před 11 měsíci

    Someone please tell Jeremy Jones you don't need to talk that much. Way too much commentary. Just let the men play some pool. Time to mute you Jeremy.

  • @RubyBandUSA
    @RubyBandUSA Před 11 měsíci

    Shane, start hitting the gym again

  • @niklastorshagen6365
    @niklastorshagen6365 Před rokem +1

    Is it just me that thinks Jayson Shaw looks like the monster pedo from Sin City

  • @Lord_Mecca
    @Lord_Mecca Před rokem

    Jeremy talks waaaaaaay too much

  • @bfrytech
    @bfrytech Před rokem

    Mark is too academic. Jeremy is experienced. Big difference. I'd gamble with Mark.... not so much with JJ

  • @reos7496
    @reos7496 Před 11 měsíci

    LOL GAY STICK PAAN NJIR

  • @alexlo710
    @alexlo710 Před rokem

    Stop muming all the time. Not cool.

  • @Wyattpari2178
    @Wyattpari2178 Před rokem

    Jayson Shaw looks rough. Needs to dry out for a while

  • @Mc-RaGe-In
    @Mc-RaGe-In Před rokem

    Shaws lucky ass leaves. Can’t stand the dude.

  • @sb2h
    @sb2h Před rokem

    Woah, y'all know about Big Tyme Billiards? That's crazy

  • @trichotillomaniac1959
    @trichotillomaniac1959 Před rokem +1

    First