8-BALL THRILLER! Shane Van Boening vs Thorsten Hohmann | 2016 Poison Challenge | Race to 21

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  • 2016 National Championships
    July 20-30, 2016
    Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino
    Las Vegas, NV
    Poison Challenge
    Shane Van Boening vs Thorsten Hohmann
    8-Ball
    Race to 21
    Sponsors/Contributors:
    Poison, Predator, Simonis Billiard Cloth,, Cyclop Pool Balls, Bad Boys Billiard Productions, Diamond Billiards, CueSports International (CSI)
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Komentáře • 495

  • @homersimpson8561
    @homersimpson8561 Před 7 lety +208

    Jay Helfert: "Y'know Shane once told me something I'll never forget..."
    *forgets to finish the story*

    • @IrWinRawr1
      @IrWinRawr1 Před 7 lety +3

      Peadar He ended up finishing the story lol.

    • @homersimpson8561
      @homersimpson8561 Před 7 lety +5

      Civilmk Haha I commented before he finished it. I just thought it was really funny

    • @6sIXsIXs9
      @6sIXsIXs9 Před 7 lety +3

      he has no capstone

    • @dsauce223
      @dsauce223 Před 6 lety +1

      It was funny, you are right.

    • @adekbudi72
      @adekbudi72 Před 5 lety +2

      Fucker

  • @Bloodkenp
    @Bloodkenp Před 6 lety +29

    That was by far one of the best matches I've seen.

  • @geezus1201
    @geezus1201 Před rokem +5

    I love watching professional pool players bc I learn so much from them. I used to play pool every day when I was younger but now im disabled and can't see or walk good enough to play but I still love watching it.

    • @saltyidiot2495
      @saltyidiot2495 Před rokem

      Sorry if it sounds rude, but how can u see when u said that u are disabled and can't see?

    • @user-of9dv4vt4e
      @user-of9dv4vt4e Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@saltyidiot2495 cant see enough to play dipshid

  • @darynelee9745
    @darynelee9745 Před rokem +2

    Some of the Best Commentators of a Pool Match that I have seen and Great Match by two World class player's.

  • @Mickydaint
    @Mickydaint Před 5 lety +52

    39:35 ''they look like they're related'' ahahahahahah gold

  • @charlesfair1582
    @charlesfair1582 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Sorry,had to turn sound off. 21 racks of
    George,Freddy and Jay analysis would put me in a straight jacket.
    Great shooting !

  • @owenmonast9582
    @owenmonast9582 Před 5 lety +10

    Ever time I watch this game I learn something new from either the commentators or the players

  • @nautica7084
    @nautica7084 Před 4 lety +16

    13:30 Check out the flex on the cue when you break. Anyone noticed?

  • @TheOneNickel
    @TheOneNickel Před 5 lety +43

    " Earl looks like a hockey goalie these days" hahahahaha!

  • @thegodofpez
    @thegodofpez Před 4 měsíci

    One of the finest battles I’ve ever watched. Bravo to both.

  • @BeanstotheBones
    @BeanstotheBones Před 4 lety +6

    1:45:30 what a nice shot from hohmann, wow !

  • @freedomhard2310
    @freedomhard2310 Před 4 lety +1

    Shane is a freaking machine! And Keep America Great!

  • @lordcerberus4894
    @lordcerberus4894 Před 4 lety +16

    I was on the edge of my seat for this! Very, very good match!

  • @mariusalexandru3409
    @mariusalexandru3409 Před 4 lety +6

    great great great great 10x great game real pool. Thank you very much CueSports International and those Sponsors/Contributors. Cheers

  • @hectorortiz4498
    @hectorortiz4498 Před 7 lety +49

    What a great approach and run out by Shane on the last game. Played it like chess and just great playing

    • @marshalcraft
      @marshalcraft Před 3 lety +2

      Svb basically had to run out, that was it hill hill. He was lucky to even get a chance, Thorstons break.

    • @hoangson690
      @hoangson690 Před 3 lety +2

      ccc

    • @steveclapper5424
      @steveclapper5424 Před 2 lety +2

      They both played unbelievably clean till the end.

    • @user-of9dv4vt4e
      @user-of9dv4vt4e Před 7 měsíci +2

      he ran out, no chess game

  • @josephhepp3078
    @josephhepp3078 Před 3 lety +1

    Great match to watch and learn

  • @tb68whiskey45
    @tb68whiskey45 Před 5 lety +2

    I'TS PRONOUNCED "TORSTEN" FFS!!! You'd think by now they'd figure it out...
    That being said, this was a hell of a match. Thank you for uploading it, CSI!

    • @lawryprice9717
      @lawryprice9717 Před 5 lety

      They are the worst commentators iv ever heard cant do simple math made 4 balls so there is 10 left to pick from race is 2 to 7 if he wins this he will be within 3 these to guys are idiots

    • @fredhugard7444
      @fredhugard7444 Před 4 lety

      He's actually said he prefers "toasty". Seriously

    • @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264
      @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 Před 4 lety

      I heard from a match a while back that you can pronounce it Torsten or Thorsten

    • @fredhugard7444
      @fredhugard7444 Před 4 lety

      @@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 he can call himself whatever he wants...I'll send him home crying in his sauerkraut. Lol.

    • @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264
      @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 Před 4 lety

      Fred Hugard well prove it on live television

  • @clicgear100
    @clicgear100 Před rokem

    One of my fav tournaments all time. Wish they would play these matches again.

  • @vebnew
    @vebnew Před 6 měsíci

    This was an excellent match - - - Shane the man

  • @8329kelso
    @8329kelso Před 4 lety +1

    Great match to the last shot!!

  • @Stavrosg76
    @Stavrosg76 Před 6 lety

    really great match, suspense at the end

  • @bg81973
    @bg81973 Před 5 lety +52

    a lot of people fail to realize that 8-ball on a 7 foot is one of the toughest games. 15 balls in such a small area causes a lot of problems.

    • @mattyfuture
      @mattyfuture Před 4 lety

      Maybe strategy wise but that's not the main reason why we should watch....more safety play/having to bump more balls/having lots of balls to shoot at/SUPER easy pockets with all short shots makes 8 ball Very very random. The tables need to all be 9-10 feet (for shot difficulty/publicity from the general public) and the pockets need to be the same width to ball ratio as snooker. Pool is just sooo luck based right now... The difficulty of the game based on random chance means nothing, difficulty based on tough shots will usually give you the better player. If you try and go pro right now without knowing you're a s good as shane... You're not the brightest fella with all this luck they allow... I refuse to pay Winner break tournaments. Fucking luck fest joke

    • @fredhugard7444
      @fredhugard7444 Před 4 lety +1

      Nit warning...

    • @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264
      @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 Před 4 lety

      It’s still the same concept just on a smaller scale

    • @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264
      @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 Před 4 lety

      Just gotta be more careful with your stroke but the math and everything else is still the same

    • @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264
      @chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 Před 4 lety

      It how’s handle it mentAlly

  • @larrycoffey8076
    @larrycoffey8076 Před 4 lety +6

    that final rack was surgical

  • @stevenm6200
    @stevenm6200 Před 4 lety

    Aweome match!!! Thanks

  • @josephnewcomb5670
    @josephnewcomb5670 Před 4 lety +1

    Shane is putting on a show

  • @jeffgould1386
    @jeffgould1386 Před 4 lety +2

    The volume on the adds is some next level shit!!!

  • @geezus1201
    @geezus1201 Před 4 lety +5

    The way Shane studied his shot on the last rack was all pro. I play very amateur pool but learned how to play from my uncle who was a legendary snooker ball player in New Jersey and I love how I know the shoes the pros are going to take. Shane is awesome and I would love to meet him and play against him once for the heck of it if course I know I will loose but it will be fun. Keep up the great games Shane

    • @everythingbobbywolfe
      @everythingbobbywolfe Před rokem

      I thought I was the only snooker from new jersey!! Where did your uncle play?

    • @user-of9dv4vt4e
      @user-of9dv4vt4e Před 7 měsíci +1

      self proclaimed "very amateur player" but yet you know the exact shots professional players are going to shoot......hhmm ok....

  • @georgearway33
    @georgearway33 Před rokem

    Shane is such a stud. I'm new to the game and I'm a huge fan.

  • @danielopher9594
    @danielopher9594 Před 2 lety

    Amazing match

  • @jackzhang631
    @jackzhang631 Před 6 lety

    so when did Shane started doing the soft high five instead of a hand shake? noticed that also before his us open 8 ball match against Bustamante. is this a thing he do to familiar players?

  • @Shoaib1231230
    @Shoaib1231230 Před 6 měsíci

    Amazing Match

  • @rudyalvarez8726
    @rudyalvarez8726 Před 7 měsíci

    Hi Mrcueball. Many people need translation. Thanks for the video.

  • @DLBurggraf
    @DLBurggraf Před 5 lety

    Thanks

  • @christiankelly1801
    @christiankelly1801 Před 3 lety

    Wow that was insane at the end!

  • @mikehunt2445
    @mikehunt2445 Před rokem +1

    I havent seen a comment about this on any pool video ever, but does anyone agree that this triangle thing they use on the break instead of a traditional rack is a problem, i noticed that it influences how the balls move especially when they are slowing down. Does anyone have a comment on this?

  • @zombienectar
    @zombienectar Před 4 lety +37

    if these guys played like the commentators thought neither one would ever win a game.

  • @mitchervin522
    @mitchervin522 Před 7 lety +1

    that last rack was tough..Shane is bad ass

  • @nevinevi1307
    @nevinevi1307 Před 2 lety

    that is the best match ever well done shane

  • @zachsnyder5444
    @zachsnyder5444 Před 5 lety +14

    That last game by Shane was monumental! so fun to watch

  • @tripwarren
    @tripwarren Před 3 lety +1

    This was a great match. Very good shooting and gamesmanship. Top Notch

  • @baptist1644
    @baptist1644 Před 7 lety

    What a match!

  • @letsgonow5641
    @letsgonow5641 Před 6 lety

    Great players both of them just Shane has the natural gift slight advantage.

  • @brandonwirick6814
    @brandonwirick6814 Před 5 lety +1

    What size is this table?

  • @josephnewcomb5670
    @josephnewcomb5670 Před 4 lety +1

    Would like to see them go back to the old racks and see how many runs they have then

  • @jeffford2006
    @jeffford2006 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you for bringing the match for us to see....but chill with the commentary please cant think all the blabbering

  • @user-of9dv4vt4e
    @user-of9dv4vt4e Před 7 měsíci +1

    18:25 *SVB Cue Wrap made larger diameter with Electrical Tape.* Goes to show cue diameters are way too narrow, too small diameter these days. 2023 definite but this back 2016. Earl uses larger wrap increase diameter. Fred Gorst also tried a wrap on top of factory wrap and kept it. butts are too narrow and taper too much
    What cue was SVB Breaking with here, in 2016? bright white lettering with sports wrap

  • @Dweller777
    @Dweller777 Před 5 lety +4

    The volume in this video is too high. It about blew my speakers when it started! Please lower it.

    • @sheilamclaughlin963
      @sheilamclaughlin963 Před 2 lety

      U have volume control deaf ol farts like me need the volume and it’s the adds that hit u

  • @patricklinnehan8106
    @patricklinnehan8106 Před 4 lety +5

    What a beautiful table

  • @my240-vdi-6
    @my240-vdi-6 Před 2 lety +1

    That last breakout by van boening was sick

  • @golfrrrr
    @golfrrrr Před 2 lety

    13th game rack had 2 stripes in the corner positions. Don't the corners have to be different for a legal rack?

  • @sodi4069
    @sodi4069 Před 4 lety +1

    Shane the Goat

  • @Salty80556
    @Salty80556 Před rokem +1

    I am only half way through the match, but want to say; without doubt these announcers make one of the very best teams I have every heard in pool match. Not even sure yet what it is, but you are great! Now lets watch the rest of the match. BTW, I am very much an SVB fan.

    • @PostUp_Time
      @PostUp_Time Před 9 měsíci +1

      *SHANE BLEW MORE BALLS THAN A MANHATTAN HOOKER* LOL

  • @markyMKV
    @markyMKV Před 2 lety

    Explain please why they hit cue ball at the beginning

  • @kellingzvolz2936
    @kellingzvolz2936 Před 4 měsíci

    2 anh bạn này quá hay một trận đấu tuyệt vời

  • @roberthunter5728
    @roberthunter5728 Před 7 lety +15

    at @18:15 he calls shane a deaf mute. I know he is pretty much deaf but hes not a mute, I talked with this guy before.

    • @MJStraughan
      @MJStraughan Před 7 lety +6

      Robert Hunter The commentator says a deaf mute managed to develop into a great player. At 19:08 it is explained that he didn't start speaking until he was 3 years old and how difficult it was. So it was meant that he managed to overcome his speaking trouble, is still deaf, and is now one of the best pool players in the world.

    • @breannathompson9094
      @breannathompson9094 Před 7 lety +1

      Robert Hunter does he have like a mafia accent because it looks like he would despite being deaf

    • @garygwinn4256
      @garygwinn4256 Před 7 lety +5

      Robert Hunter Right you are correct. Shane had speech issues in his youth, but he has pretty much overcame that. He has high-powered hearing aids, but he spent a long time as a young child without sound. That's a lot of adversity to overcome. Shane is the best pool player in our generation

    • @bboobbee1965
      @bboobbee1965 Před 5 lety +1

      @@garygwinn4256 Shane is not the best. I can play just as good and I don't play professionally. He is one of the top 100 worldwide professional players. There are probably thousands of people that can play just as good if not better that cannot afford to play professionally.

    • @cannonwar1
      @cannonwar1 Před 5 lety +1

      @@bboobbee1965 I know ur right sir......

  • @slowedmusicforyou
    @slowedmusicforyou Před 2 lety

    what is this kind of the table ? I see it smaller than 9 pool table .

  • @bk7878
    @bk7878 Před 4 lety

    Outstanding coverage and commentary!!! Thank you guy's for this, keep pool alive!!! 🎱

  • @breannathompson9094
    @breannathompson9094 Před 7 lety +12

    Its driving me crazy how many times it seemed like that plastic triangle messed up some of the balls.

    • @jeremygibson9006
      @jeremygibson9006 Před 5 lety +3

      Breanna Thompson I commented that earlier watching a match between Allison fisher and aiming Chen. The magic rack messed with the natural path of the balls like every single rack, it was bad

    • @VikingMan44
      @VikingMan44 Před 4 lety

      An old school rectangular wood rack is usually not very good at getting a tight rack but is gone after the break. Where as the magic rack gives you tighter balls but you have to deal with it's presence after the break. Pros and cons to each.

    • @markonikolic1386
      @markonikolic1386 Před 4 lety +1

      @@VikingMan44 On high quality table that they have I think it would be fine or even better to use the triangle, but on most club tables a magic rack is almaost a must if you ask me.

  • @josephnewcomb5670
    @josephnewcomb5670 Před 3 lety

    Pretty good match

  • @xTBCGx
    @xTBCGx Před 4 měsíci

    Sorry if this is dumb but I always thought 8-ball racks had to have solids in every corner. In this league, is it just the 1 in the front and the 8 in the middle?

  • @user-cg8yb1lh9c
    @user-cg8yb1lh9c Před měsícem +1

    🤩~真的是高手過招。搶21局的賽事,居然最終形成搶尾盤的局面,而且球形又是那般的惱人、刁鑽……😃職業的選手就是不同👍

  • @jamessansbury6787
    @jamessansbury6787 Před 6 lety +2

    I don"t think that either of these guys have unintentionally missed a shot in 8 ball in like 6 years..... It is always awesome watching SVB play

  • @ncvander
    @ncvander Před 4 měsíci

    audio is too quiet. the ads are killing me.

  • @DolbzBruins
    @DolbzBruins Před 3 lety

    Try watching this without commentary, its great lol

  • @oantrung2082
    @oantrung2082 Před 3 lety

    3:31:20 what happend here ? seem like svb touch the ball with his cue to me
    Or is it visually confusing by the camera angle

  • @energy102
    @energy102 Před 4 lety +1

    Didn't they call Tom Cosmo, "The Cosmo Rocket".? Saw him play an exibition at Ralphs Pool Hall in Pinellas Park, Fl. He was with Minnesota Fats. That was late 60's. Never heard Cosmos' name again until this video. He did a lot of trick shots.

    • @MALTHEMASTERBARBER
      @MALTHEMASTERBARBER Před 3 lety +1

      Danny DiLiberto brought him up quite a bit in the Accustats videos going back to the 90’s, as there is a term in pool called “ a cosmo” it’s an easy runout! Danny D would mention him and how he glided around the pool table entertaining the crowd while running out as Cosmo would set the balls up that way! That is where the term came from Cosmo nickname!

    • @energy102
      @energy102 Před 3 lety

      @@MALTHEMASTERBARBER Hey thanks for the info....always wondered about what happened to him. Those guys gave a very funny show. I remember a photo journalist asking Fats to make a ball so he could get a good picture of him. Fats said, as he walked around the table, standing straight up, shooing the balls in..."start taking your pictures anytime now...I'm gonna make all of'em."

  • @56hrs9
    @56hrs9 Před 3 lety

    Greatest

  • @janicejagneaux7062
    @janicejagneaux7062 Před rokem

    The iPad overhead projection system, where can I get one?

  • @bassinbilliards6279
    @bassinbilliards6279 Před 4 lety +1

    Watching the first rack to the last rack shows what pressure does. So fluid to focused on making sure he just gets out.

  • @8329kelso
    @8329kelso Před 4 lety

    Who was the other commentator with Jay?

  • @adampaul1025
    @adampaul1025 Před 7 lety +4

    Where is ken Schumann ?

    • @bripi244
      @bripi244 Před 7 lety

      Adam Jaros he had enough of people complaining about him

  • @sober_hiker
    @sober_hiker Před 4 lety

    What size is the table they're playing on?

  • @6sIXsIXs9
    @6sIXsIXs9 Před 7 lety

    you cant script it any better on the 41st rack!

  • @kyleguo2363
    @kyleguo2363 Před 5 lety

    They do have something that can cue makers can use to mimic the tape on Shane’s cue...the fishing and golf industry has deep using the wrap for decades

  • @evansebast
    @evansebast Před 7 lety +5

    i'm sorry, who's that girl sitting behind Shane? Hehe

  • @bricemiller49
    @bricemiller49 Před 4 lety

    That last game was impressive

  • @PeacefulVictorytoTruth
    @PeacefulVictorytoTruth Před 4 lety +1

    1:06:37 WoW. What a shot

  • @larrycoffey4534
    @larrycoffey4534 Před 4 lety +1

    1:45:30 great vision from thirsty

  • @souljamac1953
    @souljamac1953 Před 4 lety +1

    I still cant believe he took that shot at 15:41. If he wouldve taken the corner shot he couldve broken up the 3. Must've have been nerves against Van Boening

  • @CosmicGiggleMusic
    @CosmicGiggleMusic Před rokem

    Sometimes it feels like Shane let’s his opponents catch up to his lead just to make the game more interesting.
    What’s the deal with the volume? I gotta set my volume to MAX to hear the commentary, so every time an ad plays it wakes the neighbors

  • @jimwilson1817
    @jimwilson1817 Před 2 lety

    are you two aware the volume is too low to hear you speaking??

  • @AndreasRaiser
    @AndreasRaiser Před 2 lety

    Ist es ein 8ft Tisch? Sieht irgendwie klein aus...

  • @believer4445
    @believer4445 Před měsícem

    Holman got every single row still lost, shane is a beast

  • @nguyenmike5054
    @nguyenmike5054 Před 6 lety

    Anyone know what cues do Shane and Thorsten using?

  • @silverx4388
    @silverx4388 Před 7 lety +1

    A win by 2 game of pool would be interesting, the thing is the game might actually last forever. Depends on their stamina and I think Shane has more of that.

  • @pb3302
    @pb3302 Před 7 lety

    after hohmann got warm wow!

  • @gearhead8231
    @gearhead8231 Před 3 lety

    shanes a beast

  • @user-us4ws9px2s
    @user-us4ws9px2s Před 4 lety

    what the brand of vans cue?

  • @Cutlass7687
    @Cutlass7687 Před 4 lety +1

    Gotta watch pool videos to get ride of the scratch. Haha. Since all the places are closed due to this virus.. ☹

  • @forza-marco
    @forza-marco Před 6 lety +1

    Shane's look at 1:45:30. "well, that wasnt expected."

  • @1Andypro
    @1Andypro Před 7 lety +17

    Haha Fred: "he's gonna drop the deuce." Nice faux pas. ;p

  • @PostUp_Time
    @PostUp_Time Před 9 měsíci +1

    *WHY DONT THEY HAVE LONG RACES LIKE THIS ANYMORE? TODAY 8/30/2023. BRUCE SPRINGTEEN PLAYING METLIFE STADIUM IN NJ. 8/30 9/1 9/3/2023. A TIME CAPSULE COMMENT FOR THE FUTURE. WHAT HAPPENED TODAY*

  • @pazadasholanda
    @pazadasholanda Před 6 lety

    Both using CUETEC?

    • @fredhugard7444
      @fredhugard7444 Před 4 lety

      I thinkThorsten is sponsored by Lucasi. At least he was then, I think. Probably still is.

  • @gabrielmartinez717
    @gabrielmartinez717 Před 6 lety +2

    Shane "The Beast" Van Boening

  • @robertmeadows1657
    @robertmeadows1657 Před 4 lety +1

    2:55:42, catching the crappies.

  • @gordonmax5623
    @gordonmax5623 Před 8 měsíci

    rack terakhir menegangkan bagi Boening

  • @markabrice
    @markabrice Před 9 měsíci

    Rack #5: Shane clears the table in one minute. Day-umn.

  • @botacoghic
    @botacoghic Před 7 měsíci

    is this an 8ft table?

  • @037lazar
    @037lazar Před 4 lety

    What do these numbers and percentages mean bellow their names?

    • @headhunter2833
      @headhunter2833 Před 4 lety

      Ikr

    • @fredhugard7444
      @fredhugard7444 Před 4 lety

      It's their fargo rating. around 780 and up is considered world class. Shane is currently number 1 in the world. I think his rating is like in the 820s.

    • @fredhugard7444
      @fredhugard7444 Před 4 lety

      The % is just the percentage they have for winning the match at that point, based off their fargo rating and the current score.
      How is fargo rating assigned? Just from playing in fargo rated events. Other than that I think the algorithm is a trade secret...I may be wrong on that part, though; I'm no math major, so I never really cared about that part.

  • @realmcneal2425
    @realmcneal2425 Před 4 lety

    What size table is that?