Why SHOULDN'T YOU SCUBA DIVE and FLY the same day?!!!
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DECOMPRESSION SICKNESS
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Had this discussion with my flight instructor just the other week, I hear its something not a lot of students become familiar with.
You should have been taught it on your diver training it's part of your dive record.
Is easa courses, this issue is perfectly clear to all pilots. Mandatory knowledge in human performance
I feel like every human should know this, just because.
My CFI taught me about that limitation before my private pilot checkride. It's an important consideration when going through IMSAFE for you and your passengers, as well as for flight planning as it can limit your max altitude.
@@dogwalker666 in PADI its part of basic open diver course.
Yup, as a divemaster, I would strongly encourage taking a day off from diving 1 day prior to your flight home. The abundance of caution should not be ignored. Iâve seen & heard of many instances from frequent divers to weekend warriors and newbies who just got their C-Card having issues.
Hey, great video. Actually, after finishing a dive the diving computer displays a countdown called no fly time to make Life easier.
That a posh method, We had to calculate by hand.
I did some diving prior to my holiday. Every component told me Iâd be save. During holiday I still ended up in the deco tank. Be careful when it comes to diving and flying.
It was one of the questions on our Diving licence exam.
@@dogwalker666 same with me. Last dive not 48 but 96 hours prior to flying. 48 hours after landing first dive. And still deco.
It is what it is. Sometimes sh.t just happens.
@@TheUnknownDutchman exactly, As my home is at 1000 feet I had to increase the time too.
Good short video. This a rule that I was reminded of when I took diving classes many years ago.
Excellent advice. However, "Bends" are really a sub-category of decompression sickness. The word "bend" comes from the bent position adopted by a person affected by nitrogen decompressing in the joints; it is the position of minimal discomfort in these circumstances. The term "Decompression sickness" covers not only the problems relating to the bends but also those relating to nitrogen bubbles forming in other tissues, most critically in the central nervous system. (Former diver and medical referee to the British Sub-Aqua Club)
Great colab Joe đ useful info
Awesome love it that you post everyday đ
There was an episode of "1000 ways to die" where a group of guys went scuba diving on the same day they were going to fly their private plane home.
When the bends hit them them, they became paralyzed and all they could do was watch as their plane crashed.
While getting scuba training I've been told before long haul flights at least a full day is more than recommended. I landed in Djibouti (a country I did not know it exists before that day) because a diver ignored that advice. And he was suffering heavily by the time we start dropping fuel for a while to be able to land. It wasn't fun for anyone on that Air France flight!
same for all less pressured air environments, like high mountains. it a standart thing that you learn at your diving license, at least if you chose PADI or SSI
When did scuba for the first time in Thailand, the first question the dive school asked was when Iâm flying home. I could unfortunately only go for one dive. Had I known this I would have not left the scuba activity at the end of the trip.
Thank you. We weren't informed of this when we went diving. Fortunately, by chance, we had a couple of days after our dive before flying home.
You can also do this in reverse very quickly, by jumping out of a plane at 20,000 feet wearing scuba gear and a parachute. As you hit the water, you detach the parachute then dive under.
You can do it even more quickly. Just detach the parachute half-way to the water.
Great content. First time to see medical. đ
Captain Joe, can you please put a link to your guest's channel in the description so we can subscribe to her as well. đ
Same english teacher? Your accents are almost identical đđ Very good information! Thank you very much!
I knew the answer to this courtesy of House MD đđ
12h are really a minimum and if you have had multiple dives 24h is the minimum. DAN has done testing and even then micro bubbles show up. Also going up in the mountains after diving are a risk because of the pressure change.
well, it's factually not necessary to mention, "pressurized" cabin since climbing too high in a Cessna causes the same symptoms.
Yeah I caught that as well. It can actually be less of a factor in pressurized cabin (which is normally pressurized at the highest at 8000 ft) versus an unpressurized cabin which could be well above 10,000. The AIM says a pilot should wait at least 12 hours prior to flying to altitudes up to 8,000 feet msl if a dive has not required a controlled ascent (nondecompression-stop diving) and at least 24 hours after diving in which a controlled ascent (decompression) is required, so technically it is not normally a factor in a pressurized cabin, unless an emergency depressurization occurs.
How do Marine Raiders handle water infiltration and then extraction via Osprey? Or SEALs handle HALO into water infiltration?
Some more detailed information: If your cabin altitude is 8,000 always wait at least 24 hours.
Wow her voice is đ„ș
Hi captain Joe why is astigamatism very serious for pilot qualifications ? I was disqualified from both military and commercial pilot license because my astigamatism is +2.5 diopters they don't allow laser correction too đą
@@user-zk2zl5bs1m I am wearing spectacles and i can see clearly i even have a spare but they don't allow astigamatism to be more than 2 diopters. Mine is 2.5 đđ
hey, i got disqualified too but in my case it was because it seems that i have a super little colorblindness. About you're issue, I belive that here in Spain if you do the laser correction and you pass some tests to see that the procedure didn't leave any secondary effects they'll consider you qualified, but i'm not sure you should investigate about itđȘ
Bummer. 2.5 diopter cylinder is pretty severe, and iirc astigmatism can cause some visual artifacts that aren't easily corrected by glasses - it's basically a directional "stretch" of the eye/lens, so there's an angle to the corrections too. That said, it seems like it shouldn't matter for IFR, but I guess you need vfr first... Not a pilot or an eye doctor.
I donât dive but still is good to know,thanks captain,đđđđđđŠđș
"ScubaFlyDie" We need to make this a Tik Tok challenge,
You know.. to thin the herd a bit.đ
youtube didnt set this as a short
such a cute lill doll
Every qualified divers knows it
I was literally thinking who the f is diving and doesnât know this.
Exactly.
@@alexanderhowcroft8779 You said it better!
_Following: Captain Joe reacts to House M. D., episode Airborne_
God, that was so terrible. I'm a recompession chamber operator and the symptoms they showed were so scrambled I didn't even pick it.
Does this also mean you shouldn't scuba drive followed by driving/climbing up a mountain?
Ihr sprecht beide so ein wunderbares Englisch đ
Never knew joe was such a tall boiđ
I remember Gene Hackman explaining that phenomenon in The Firm.đ
Hey Joe me old Aunt told me the first time i was going on a airplane as i was traveling to the USA from Ireland she told me not to be rolling up and down the windows and not to be running around the plane and not to be running out on the wings she had never seen a plane except at 30000 feet up in the sky all she saw was the contrails lol she pass away at the age of 96. and me a mear 77 years young lol. A it was my first time no the good old faithful 747 i loved it
What's Alina's CZcams channel called
Good
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That's why we use dive computers.
8 hours between bottle and throttle
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How about rescuer that work with diving from helicopter into the sea?
I don't think these type of helicopters fly high enough for this to become an issue.
They donât reach an altitude that would cause the problems. As long as you donât increase your altitude up to over 3km after a dive at sea level you wonât really have any problems. But itâs generally just better to wait a couple of hours reduce the risk.
â@@user-zk2zl5bs1m it's not just cabin pressure, You cannot go climbing mountains straight after a dive, As I live at 1000 feet I have to alter my dive tables to allow for it.
Rescue divers don't generally go underwater, so there is no issue.
For people like oil rig divers who may need to be evacuated by helicopter, there are helicopters with chambers built in that keep the diver at the right pressure on the way to hospital, and the hospitals have chambers that lock on to the helicopter, allowing transfer and treatment under pressure.
Always use a diving computer and follow its advice, the more if you're having a diving trip and make multiple dives. The computer will record every single one of them and inform you wether it's safe to make another dive, and in which conditions. It will also inform you of the "no fly" time left after your last dive. The rule of thumb is 24h, but it's always a good idea to check your computer. Be VERY suspicious of cheesy diving instructors or guides in some resorts that will assure you that "it's all fine", no reputable diving center or instructor will ever tell you that. Diving is extremely fun and, as long as you follow the rules and get quality training, it's every bit as safe as it is fun.
There's a good episode of house about this
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Why dose she sound like Mickey Mouse?!
Is this the same when first flying and then diving because you talked about flying after diving so I just wanna be sure
Iâm assuming either or, because the title just says âthe same dayâ so Im sure within a 24 hour period you shouldnt be doing both.
Hey, im a diver myself and you can absolutly do that couse t'he nitrogen bubles get into our tixues during the dive. So during that flight you wouldnt have them, the problem is flying before diving
I assume that diving after flying is positive, since flying will even eliminate more nitrogen from the body (longer flight)
@@strohtaler4698 well, I might be wrong because nitrogen saturation can be a little tough. The thing is that the air that we all breathe is made from about a 79% of nitrogen, but all the nitrogen that we inhale is exhaled, and we only begin to accumulate nitrogen when we dive because the pressure underwater is bigger (for example 2 Atms at 10 meters o 33feet). Then I think that when we fly, we don't get rid of nitrogen because we don't have any in our body. But I can't assure it 100% it's just my opinion based on my knowledge
â@@strohtaler4698 no, the pressure keeps the nitrogen in solution and harmless. Removing the pressure by going higher lets the nitrogen come out of solution and form bubbles.
Unfortunately I didn't follow the rules...
And i died
RIP
I like how you didn't include her YT channel
I hope they never build a flying open top submarine. I think it could be dangerous đź
SkyDiver?
It is time to settle. Get married Joe.
That never occurred to me
I canât find her channel
Hello I love your videos I'm 17 year old can you make a video how to become a pilot please
Title of this video is wrong. It should be do not fly AFTER diving, since it seems that there is no problem with doing these things on the same day, as long as the diving is coming last.
Imagine how hard the life is for flying fish
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Dear Doc Docxalina, it is not possible to subscribe to your channel. At least not for me. I get an error. đą
So if a person goes on a vacation * and plans to scuba dive, he should do it at the beginning of the trip, not near the end of it?
*Edit: by plane
Why do pilots add thrust to 94% to 99 N1 and not all the way 100 percent?
Mostly to reduce wear and tear on the engines. If it can climb safely on reduced power, the pilots will generally do so for that reason
You should never run an engine at 100%.
@@R160A ohhhh thanks (:
The "Now you know" is not as great as Joe's đ
Diving in general is at the bottom of my bucket list, i am strongly against the deep waters and the strong distrust of relying on a big metal bottle to let you breathe. Nope!
HI CAPT! I HAVE A QUESTION IN CASE THERE IS NO AVAILABLE PORTS FOR THE BORESCOPE, WHAT TWO COMPONENT CAN BE REMOVE TO GAIN ACCESS IN A COMBUSTION SECTION?
Yes I know. PADI open water diver.
why is that lady showing off her stethoscope?
Maybe cos she's a Doctor (judging from her YT link) and they frequently do that? đ
Joe their is no chance of me diving then flying am ok in shallow water but beep water no way thank. You would say i have a touch of aquaphobia was very near dround as a child would have dround for a boy scout he saved me he thought i was dead and that i was not breathing he did perform cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR). He was a few years older than i but he passed away form a hart attack so sad i could return the favour and save him not save him
can you fly first then dive?
Hey, im a diver myself and you can absolutly do that couse t'he nitrogen bubles get into our tixues during the dive. So during that flight you wouldnt have them, the problem is flying before diving
Yes, you can fly to your destination and dive the same day. Just need 12 to 24 hours after your last dive before you fly home.
but what if Im a diving bird?
DEATH PENALTY
But what if you are flying fish?
If you do deep dives >40m you should wait more than two days
I remember 2 pilot die due to that. They I'd scuba diving and did go to fly with 2 h after and the 2 pilots past out will flying lucky was the cesena or something like that
Not recommended! More like, DO NOT FLY AFTER SCUBA DIVING
Can't you just punch it into your dive computer? Some people like to know exact numbers.
Is that your daughter or a doctor, or both..đ
As a Physicist, a pilot, and a DiveMaster, yes I knew this. Good video, thanks for making neat informative content!
You are so pro
Oxygen prebreathe for the cheat.
Why he put her on her knees?
I am sorry doc, your beauty distracted me. Altough, whatever you say, I am sure it is true and I'll say yes
@0:48 what does para-lices mean?
is it a parachute for lice or something?
Paralysis.
It's a typo
@@gasdive it's a joke
@@jamdc2000 oh, I thought you might not be a fluent English speaker.
Turns out you were making fun of someone who has English as a second language. My mistake.
@@gasdive I am not, my first language is Spanish, I started studying English 10 years ago, also tried Deutch, Francois and Ninhongo; English is the easiest one to learn though
The cabin is pressurised for one, for two the pressure from sea level to space only varies by 1 bar of pressure unlike under the water where every 10m you go down the pressure goes up by 1 bar.
yeah this video is iffy at best. Sure pressure changes slightly but it's same as if you went into mountains, it will just make your ears pop, if you lowered to 0 bar well⊠you got hole in the plane so that's whole another issue
ofcourse Joe could just link study proving us wrong but he won't do it
@@mister_magister3798 If you need a study, it's easy to look it up yourself, both Padi and DAN and the US National Institute of health all confirm it, and amongst divers that travel frequently this has been common knowledge for over 40 years.
@@licencetoswill if that's true then its super counter intuitive. Is it perhaps because of sudden drop in pressure? (ear pop thing)
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Why is she talking like that? lol
Why is she talking so odd?
weird accent
Whose that pretty girl in the video? She doesn't have a ring on her finger and I would like the chance to put a ring on her finger!!!
Why are you now using portrait format? Very annoying. That's why you're getting a thumbs down.
Hi captain
Please are you no Instagram
I recently did scuba diving and before diving, the authority gave me a form to fill-up and it was written in the form if I am not flying within 24 hours of diving đ«Ąđ«Ą