SALTBURN - Movie Review
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You know what they say ... better to swing and potentially miss than make a marvel movie, sequel, reboot, prequel, etc
There used to be something in between pretentious films like this and insipid cinema like the endless reboots, sequels and Marvel movies. I believe they were called entertaining films. They're something of rarity but one can hope they make a comeback.
Worst of all, new grifter genres of nothing but franchise grievances forced into political paradigms👐😲
Reboot. The most gawdawful word in Movies today.
@@earlgrayman982you watch 10 films a year. Be serious for a second
@@earlpipe9713ah yes, because politics in movies has never been a thing before recently. Grow a thicker skin and form some convictions
Fennell cites Cruel Intentions as one of her favorite films and I think that's kind of the level this is thriving at. Saltburn is to Talented Mr. Ripley/Rebecca/Theorem/etc. what Cruel Intentions is to Dangerous Liaisons.
cruel intentions was one of my favs too...........when i was 14
I still love movies I loved when I was a child. Nothing wrong with that. Cruel Intentions fucking rocks.@@astralnight3493
I can see that big time because it was one of my favorite movies growing up.
So true about Keoghan! He looks like an old man that is 20 years old. Very unique look. Love that guy. He's a great actor. I don't know what it is exactly but there seems to be something about him I like that reminds me of Tom Hardy in a way. They're both slightly strange people that are incredible actors with some other invisible quality they share.
What seems to be missing here, and I can’t see anyone else highlighting in the comments so I felt compelled to say: is that Saltburn is a very British movie. Far from being superficial and style over substance, it actually has a lot to say about the relationship between the classes in the unique class system we have here in Britain. American audiences may not understand the subtext of this film without an understanding of the complicated British class system. Unlike America where you can be proud to be rich and it is societally considered a good thing, being rich is not something you are meant to openly display in Britain. Most rich people in Britain cosplay being poor or ‘one of the people’ and do their best to blend in and downplay their elitism, exactly as Felix does in the film when he is at Uni. And oppositely, there is deep seated and long-standing resentment within normal people in Britain towards who they consider to be the rich. Rather than look up to them we do our best to bring them down and dismantle the structures that keep them in place. Exactly how Oliver does he is the personification of that jealousy and hate. What makes Saltburn unique and original is that rather than featuring a story where the normal working man is the innocent victim and the elite are the bad guys (as is so commonplace in British film, especially in the popular kitchen sink realism dramas), this film highlights how both sides can be as bad as each other. The rich in their snobbery and the poor in their parasitism. The film is full of criticisms targeted equally at both sides of the class divide here in Britain. And they are all packaged under the veneer of a weird, tense, and highly stylised thriller. Very good film
Nah it’s not that nuanced.
Oliver isn't poor though and is just straight up a psychopath.
I think you are giving this film too much credit.
I'm not sure what you mean by both sides and class! Oliver Quick is a rich man with a great upbringing in a nice home. What's hilarious is that Farleigh, Sir Catton's nephew *actually* has parents who have issues with money and addiction whereas upper middle class Oliver cosplay's his family life. This film has the depth of a puddle.
Thank you for your deeply insightful open ended reflective reviews. Thanks for allowing and challenging me to think with you.
I enjoyed the shocking moments watching in the theater, it was funny hearing people audibly freak out. It just felt very surface-level though, I wanted smarter writing but never got it.
Exactly how I feel.
loved the Harry Potter comparison, would've never thought of that on my own, great review as always
Scrapbook cinema…I think you’re on to something. It’s how I would also describe Priscilla. Snapshots surrounded by beautiful layers that make one nostalgic if they themselves were in the picture, but for anyone else feel distant, unsure of intent, and ultimately hollow.
I had to watch priscilla again. It was a lot better the 2nd time but might not be for you. Its still slow.
@@elbowjuice2627 To be fair, I have yet to connect with any of Sofia’s films. Every time I’m treated to really beautiful snapshots of ideas that don’t really coalesce in any meaningful way. “Scrapbook” might really be the best way to describe her work, IMO. I’m always hoping her next project will change my mind, but that has yet to happen.
@@FischToGo i feel ya
Word for word what I felt from watching this film. I feel like people WANT the imagery in this film to mean more than it actually does. Yet not a single positive review can give me any concrete reasons why I should think about this film for a second after the credits roll.
you portrayed my thoughts so perfectly omg i think i’ll definitely rewatch to see how i feel second time
"Acedemic inflated sense of delusion among directors now a days" HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
“. . .these bodily fluids that are kind of leaking into this elegant, cold exterior here. . .”
Keoghan is a lot of fun and this showed he could develop into a leading man when they clean him up. I really enjoy following the lad. I'm a dolt so the last 10 minutes kind of surprised me and i did like that. This movie's fatal flaw is that it was slow and often a drag. **
I love him as an actor but he's getting typecast now. To the point that you can predict where the film is heading.
Fennell has said her major influence on this film were Joseph Losey's The Servant and The Go Between and also Jack Clayton's film of Henry James The Innocents. Amazing films all.
Felt like the director doesn't have very much to say.
Your reviews feel like essays I can liken to a rewarding meal after a fast. Poignant and necessary
I saw the title and thought it was an Aquaman sequel to Brightburn :(.
I went looking for this review after seeing Saltburn just last night. As usual, you do not disappoint. Keep up the great work, Maggie.
Hard to tell if Barry is 20 or 40. He could play either, it's wild.
Great review! Would also love to here your thoughts on The Holdovers if you get a chance.
first time I come across this channel and it's a nice change of pace from Stuckmann and Jahns
I enjoyed this film to a degree but, as you rightly pointed out, it really smacks of overtly fashionable pastiche. It did solidify my belief that Keoghan is one of the best young actors currently working and he has been on a tear for sure. A higher ceiling meditation on some of this movie's (barely) explored themes would be Pasolini's Teorema ... undoubtedly an influence on this movie.
I wasn't planning on seeing this but was at the theater and decided to go for it. I really enjoyed the visuals and music. I am confused by it, I feel the same way I'm not sure if I liked or disliked it, maybe both. I didn't love it but appreciate some of what it did.
I think one of the most important things to understand about this film is the continuing culture of the English caste system. From an American perspective it might be hard to understand just how different life can be if you're from a House or not. Being a commoner is a completely different class from the "old" money of England. From the director's life perspective this movie is much more of a cultural 180 and upending of the common plight. It doesn't matter if you graduate from Oxford as a commoner. You still don't have a House. This is his way in. Eat the rich... as they say. Idk. I'm drunk and off to bed.
I liked this movie better than I thought I would and I’ve been smitten with Barry K. since Banshee’s! Good analysis. Thx!
That couch looks the most comfy couch I have possibly ever seen . Where can I buy one haha 😂😂😂 great review by the way
I think Emerald Fennell spent a weekend watching Pasolini films while scrolling tik tok on her phone and thought she “got it”.
I literally HATED Natural Born Killers the first time I watched it...but after taking a breather and giving it a second chance I was able to watch it for the social satire that it was meant to be and I came away with an entirely different viewpoint
The editing in natural born killers is unacceptable
@yanquiufo7113 Literally migraine inducing, I know. But when the scenes are actually allowed to "breathe" there's some quality filmmaking to be found here
I saw the trailer many months ago. I thought it was a class divide movie with some homosexual undertones.
Far from it
I also felt there was a lot of surface-level aspects to the film, and the "shock" elements were kind of dumb, specifically in relation to any depiction of gay eroticism or sex in the film, wherein a "Oh no, we can't show that!" attitude dating back at least to "Suddenly Last Summer" was still upheld to a degree (couldn't figure out moving from medium shots to close-ups exactly what was going on with those guys), while the straight sex scene was excessive to the point of drawing either an "ick" or "Whatever, this is stupid" reaction, or maybe both for some viewers like me. Thought the film was okay overall, but check out "Something for Everyone" with Michael York and Angela Lansbury for a better take on a similar theme, IMO.
Triangle of Sadness and The Menu did it better, in the Eat the Rich genre
This. Also, _The Talented Mr Ripley_ did it better in the _The Talented Mr Ripley_ genre.
I’d be interested to hear what you think of Claire Denis’ Trouble Every Day… saw it again recently and really don’t know what to think
let the sunshine in
I'd love to see you do a review/analysis of Sergio Leone's magnum opus 'Once Upon a Time in America' (1984) and hear your thoughts about it.
You might consider watching *All My Friends Hate Me* from 2021 if you haven’t already. Definitely in the same ballpark as Promising Young Woman and Saltburn.
That's a really good one I still feel gaslit by that movie!
I loved it up until when it should have ended. But then again, I loved the final scene at the end. I think the problem was the editing: there was just too much of this film. But then again, it was missing something. Either way, the eye candy was out of this world and I have zero problem with what the vision of the film was. That being said, I liked Promising Young Woman more as it was more coherent, there was so much more context and I was way more emotionally shook and connected to the main character. Overall though, I don't feel like it was a swing and a miss. I see it more as a sloppy, unplanned pass that was caught when it really shouldn't have been. Either way, I can't wait to see what she does next.
I oved this review, also noticed The Shining shout outs through out the film, and Felix was reading Harry Potter. I felt it was too long for its own sake, giving a little restraint it would have been perfect. Also also the spelling of what had transpired in flashback mode wasn't necessary.
I'm picking up on hints of Triangle of Sadness, which I don't think you've reviewed.
oh my god i am so glad i discovered your videos
I felt the exact same way about both of Fennell's movies. Still enjoyed watching them though. Probably like this one the most.
2nd best movie movie i’ve seen this year behind Oppenheimer. It worked a lot more for me on a rewatch. This movies quite simple really but there’s just enough subtext to make the characters even better and have more to think about. And it doesn’t hurt that it’s just insanely beautiful to look at. I mean those party sequences are so magical but also so devilish and haunting.
you're my favorite movie review channel
I agree with a lot of your opinions here … I just came back from it and while it’s still fresh in my mind I feel like yeah it wasn’t bonkers and crazy enough for me to be like YEAH CINIFILES YEAH GO SEE IT ITS MESSED UP and it wasn’t grounded enough for me to be like “yeah guys go see it it’s very dramatic and grounded and simple..” idk. It’s like If call me be your name and neon demon and Sofia Coppolas “somewhere” 2010 had a baby. Now when I say that a lot of u will prob go “that sounds awesome” but nah it’s like jarring when it happens cause there ARE scenes in here where I’m like “ok yeah that’s never gonna leave my mind for a while “ but I’m like either go big or go home u know?
Literally no character in this film was a likeable person. I enjoyed the film, but I'm at odds in regards to the character development. I totally agree about wanting to like both of the directors films more, because I feel like both her films had potential to be great films instead of just good ones.
Barry the vampire 🧛♂️
GREAT REVIEW! Same thoughts!!
Great review! Totally agree about what you said about loving it one scene than not as much the next! I did enjoy it overall.
Can you make a video or a list of your 10 childhood defining movies? Another movie critic I followed made one so I'm curious about what your list would be
Great video the ophelia keyhole Bodysuit is a great choice the top accentuates your décolletage.
Can you please watch and review Red Rooms. Scariest non horror I've seen in years
Hated it! Just come on! No one realizes that guy is a psychopath?! Funny point you brought up the divide - talked to someone else today that loved it! Very predictable film.
Agreed, it was totally implausible. This guy got caught in several lies, yet we're supposed to believe he pulled off everything perfectly in the end. I don't buy his seduction of several character either, but I guess we're just supposed to go along with it.
Excellent review. I enjoyed Saltburn quite a lot. I thought it had some great visuals and had a very good soundtrack especially the track Loneliness played during the party scene, it just looked and sounded awesome. A few WTF moments almost spoiled my enjoyment and although Keoghan’s Liverpool accent was a bit inconsistent, he was still excellent in this. Keoghan is one of those actors who is up for anything it seems and he does have a really interesting face, he just stands out in everything he’s in. The cast were great overall but i would have liked a few more scenes with Carey Mulligan and Richard E Grant.
The film did leave me feeling like it didn’t have that much depth, I’m not sure if it will be quite as good on repeat viewings, it’s just a wild film that’s worth experiencing once at least. One thing that in particular that lingers is the graveyard scene…
Just finished it and I cant help but feel strong Park Chan-Wook vibes throughout. Quite good surprisingly.
i had seen oldboy for the first time in theatres just a few weeks before seeing saltburn and they elicit the same reaction for me i really think the film is a stroke of genius.
Perhaps you should rewatch the movie after first watching either Brideshead Revisited (either series or film) - Waugh is referenced early in the film. And watch Another Country with Rupert Everett - The British Class System is such a key part of this film
Twisted Harry Potter is a fantastic way to summarize it lol
Damn I'll be honest I did not see The Shining reference and I've watched that movie twice.
Just came from watching the movie, really fun
Rough edges aside i really enjoyed this one and the way it depicts how psychopaths are able to dominate the upper spheres of business and politics. Their lack of empathy and obsession with power, attention to detail etc gives them a supreme advantage over everyone else. Not all of them are quite as dangerous as Oliver though as many of them lack the ability to play the wolf in sheep's clothing.
Films and series are like ‘modern parables’ so when the villain ultimately wins, it feels like a waste of time because there was no strategy reflected on that resulted in a good outcome.
Very curious to hear what you think. Did not work at all for me. Saw it tonight. Honestly not liked it. Had nothing deep or important to say.
Beau is afraid had the same effect on me. I'm just not sure if it works.
For lack of a better analogy, is Fennell swinging for the fences and only hitting a double here, or is she an everyday base hitter with a couple lucky breaks? I completely agree with your analysis here and appreciate your expressed vacillating impressions of this movie. Personally, I don't think Saltburn is that much to get worked up about. It's a fine effort and I hope Fennell only grows to become a more complete filmmaker from the experience.
Review The Royal Hotel please mate
You coined it . Scrapbook cinema ! The character of Oliver Quick is probably one of the greatest villains ever played on film .
Now I want a list of all the “scrapbook cinema” movies
while i thought Rosamund Pike did an absolutely perfect job as Elspeth, I think Lena Headey could've also played the part in a different but effective way
I think you see it as an obsessions and iust take it for what it is, You'll enjoy it. Its a good watch high.
DFL should always be the first go to...great take.
She should have ended the movie ten minutes earlier, so it was left ambiguous, and you are never sure what he is up to.
Heavy references to Losey's masterpiece, The Servant, but Saltburn lacks it depht and real disturbing vibe, it is a real superficial mess looking to shock and try hard. Props to Keoghan, though
Venetia was far too easily convinced to kill herself. I get her brother died but ppl lose loved ones all the time & they’re not that quick to kill themselves just because there’s razor blades next to the bath.
I assumed he was saying that to taunt the person he was saying it to; him admitting to "putting the blades in the tub" meant she didn't bring them in herself; a.k.a. he killed her and staged it like a suicide. I saw it a while ago so I could be wrong.
@@looney1023 yeah maybe you’re right.
Nice haha, I'm also thinking about it a lot but not sure I liked it
Rip off of Talented Mr Ripley. I preferred All my friends are the worst, I think thats what its called, which is also set in a stately manor and has a similar theme.
A few observations …
This *IS* a Vampire movie!!
Oscar is a ‘vampire’ … he even SAYS SO!!
(From the page 62 of the script)
VENETIA Ollie...
His hand slides up further.
VENETIA (CONT’D) It’s- it's not-
(agonized)
The right time of the month.
OLIVER
And is that something you think I’d
be worried about?
He keeps going. Venitia is entranced.
OLIVER (CONT’D) Lucky for you I'm a vampire.
Do you think the menstrual blood scene was just for ‘shock value’??
In drinking the bathwater, Oliver is trying to absorb the absolute essence of Felix … brilliantly represented.
OK, let’s go there:
‘Saltburn’?? Do some research on vampires/graves and salt …
‘Salt is sometimes used to make sure undead creatures, or evil ones, won't rise from the grave. In stories where vampires don't collapse into a pile of ashes when killed, they are frequently buried with their head removed, their mouth filled with salt, and the grave circled with salt. Sometimes the head is placed under their knees.’
That’s my take … does it go too far? Probably … 🤣
Thank you so much for your reviews!! I love anyone that takes the time to put themselves out there and critique great cinema!!
This is the best movie of the year …. tied with ‘Beau Is Afraid’!!
For your reference:
deadline.com/2023/09/saltburn-emerald-fennell-jacob-elordi-bary-keoghan-interview-news-1235551022/
8flix.com/assets/screenplays/s/tt17351924/Saltburn-2023-screenplay.pdf
What was olly's motive??? Lol 😂 I just watched it today. I think it's filmed beautifully but I'm like WTF is the reasoning behind it
The movie tries to sell two separate motives:
1. He coldly planned a revenge-against-the-rich scheme from the beginning and executed it perfectly.
2. He got caught up in his passions and his actions were more spiteful based on how they treated him; he just wanted love, but settled for their wealth when he couldn't lie his way into their family.
3. He's a psycho
@@Edowin-jz2sj Revenge for what?? What did the family do to him? If they did something then it would make sense to plot revenge like that but in the end he didn't even being his own family along lol and they were pretty well off... Not like saltburn family but they seemed like they were in a good space and dad wasn't on drugs lol
@@Leo31291 100% lol 😂
@@dainrivers5667 I'm not defending the movie, I think the plot fails and my point was that it was trying to sell two separate contradicting motives, which was a bad idea in my opinion. Olly was not dirt poor, this is true, but he was treated like an outsider because he didn't come from old money like the other students at Oxford. This movie falls into a class-warfare sub-genre like the South Korean movie "Parasite". It's all about the "eat-the-rich" slogan - not good vs bad or right vs wrong.
I grew up in that rarefied world, although in America, not Britain.
The movie is very, very accurate. I hated that life, and purposefully vacated it ASAP.
Got myself kicked out of two boarding schools because I just wanted a normal life.
“An academic inflated sense of delusion.” Thats a really great point but doesnt that just mean pretentious?
Was interesting up until the reveal. It kept me guessing. Then it was just like 'oh, it's Talented Mr Ripley.' Just a cookie cutter revenge, mystery whatever. I was hoping it would go into weird, abstraction like Sacred Deer.
I do hope she sees this review.
I liked it a lot but the ending kind of spells out what we already know
I disliked it up until the Olly home reveal, then I liked it until the funeral scene, and then I hated it until the end. Interesting movie but not one I’d consider good.
Saw the musical, 'Bad Cinderella' earlier this year. . .book/story by Emerald Fennell. The worst thing I've ever seen onstage. Doesn't give me high hopes for this movie.
Please review Natural Born Killers
Can someone who hated PYW like this?
I hated PYW and I wasn’t too enamoured with this.
After months since watching and having watched a few times since, I didn’t like it. That’s the conclusion I’ve come to. That’s not to say it couldn’t have been good but overall it felt incomplete yet still had a feeling of “why was this movie made and who was it made for?”
I hate how predictable the movie is, but the movie treats itself like the audience doesn’t know that twist is coming when they’ve been making it obvious the whole movie
I thought it waa fantastic
Deffo stays with you
I loved Saltburn, despite being aware of its shortcomings. It reminded me of Spring Breakers: transgressive, irreverent; indie sleaze.
Reminded me of spring breakers also !!!
yup yup
The question I have is: is the point driven home that the character of concern is a vile predatory sociopath? Or are audiences going to leave off a little too sympathetic to him after his victory dance? I don't see this character as being morally complex, he's pretty awful.
That’s my main problem with it, Oliver is too cartoonishly evil for this to come off as a triumphant tale of the poor overcoming the elite
@@poop_storm I don't have a problem with that character lacking moral complexity, but I do have a problem with people thinking he has it when he is nothing but pure evil.
I thought it was clear from the beginning we weren’t to be sympathetic of him because of the way he treated his friend & how he helped that girl cheat. And then why would we be sympathetic after he killed Venetia, Felix & the mother? He’s clearly the villain. The rich family’s biggest crime is that they were a little snobby and cold to people after they stayed in their mansion for a long time.
She said Saltburn was “polarizing” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 shit was buttcheeks a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.
it's rubbish. the writing is slack, the characters are unbelievably shallow. it's pretty as hell. it's even worse than Promising Young Wm. which was a zero and a half.
I'm a bit tired of these eat-the-rich stories, as much as I align with them politically and emotionally. Parasite does the best job of this, and engages the audience enough to give the poor folks' machinations the right dirty kick. That's distinctly missing here, for some of the reasons Maggie lays out.
Came out with some mixed feelings, but Barry Keoghan sure is special. Also, best sex scene since MacGruber?
I found it boring. At least Promising Young Woman had a story. This felt like she started typing with no real direction.
I agree. I looked at my phone 80 minutes in and I thought "where is this going?" It turns out that it all came together in the last few minutes. But everything leading up to it could've been better developed.
Nah, I thought this was way better than Promising Young Woman
Both PYW and Saltburn are so annoying to me because I see SO many good ideas, interesting premises, awesome use of color/lighting, and great acting…that ultimately mean nothing when the plots take a couple random turns and by the end we end up asking “what exactly is the point you’re trying to make Emerald?”
For example, in Saltburn, if the entire point of Oliver’s plan was to take over the castle…why did he do the things he did in the tub and grave? Nobody was watching. Obviously there was more to Oliver’s feelings for Felix than just jealousy and hatred. BUT nope. Lets not explore those. Let’s just put a big bow on the ending of this movie and say it was all just a rouse. This film’s ending hardly makes sense.
i would argue the whole film is about desire which explains oliver’s actions in the grave and tub. he is obsessed with felix from the first time he lays eyes on him and ends up killing him the same day it became clear he would no longer have access to him
Saltburn was good until it wasn't. The only thing more eye rolling than scenes for shock like humping funeral dirt are all the pretentious reviews saying it's.. a brilliant take on the classes, not fluff or weird at all. 🙄 Lol
Keegan
apparently, I'm wrong, but until I meet an Irish person, I'mma stick with this lol
THANK YOU. I'll be skipping this one. Fuck modern feminism.
There's something very creepy about him and tbh I strongly dislike him in anything I've seen him in... To the point that he makes me not want to watch something. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with him as a person, of course (but I'm also not saying that there's not something wrong with him) but I'm steadfast in my opinion that we don't have to like everything and don't need a reason or justification for anything.
Style but nothing to say unfortunately.
This’ll be a hard pass for me, and a lot of the reason for that comes off the back of this review, so a sincere thanks for doing what you always do Maggie and that’s just “telling it like it is”.
@@garyallen8824 one persons “intellectual snobbery“ is another persons trusted informed source.
I’m more than happy to crack and skid on this, knowing I’d only have regrets if I made myself watch it.
My intuition told me I’d dislike it from the premise (despite having a lot of time for most of the leads) and Maggies review further consolidated that instinct.
I have faith in her critiquing method as I share a lot of her views on previous films.
I mean, she didnt say its TRASH
ive seen this movie like 5 times lol