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Komentáře • 488

  • @ericthomas917
    @ericthomas917 Před 3 lety +362

    Milwaukee Bucks were definitely the best 80's team without a title. 7 straight division titles, 7 straight 50 win seasons, 3 East finals appearances.

    • @bball767
      @bball767 Před 3 lety +51

      Not to mention they were in the east. Which in the 80s was much tougher

    • @ivorysteele
      @ivorysteele Před 3 lety +2

      No finals appearances. So no

    • @adamsamuel8593
      @adamsamuel8593 Před 3 lety +10

      So its like James Harden Houston Rockets

    • @SopranoPizzaJMFNJ
      @SopranoPizzaJMFNJ Před 3 lety +27

      Hands Down The Bucks Were THE BEST 80's Team Without A Title. The Rockets Were Second. Sixers Definitely Should Have Won ANOTHER Ring. The Knicks When Ewing Was Young, Especially If They Had Kept Bernard King.

    • @Salvatore1268
      @Salvatore1268 Před 3 lety +13

      @@SopranoPizzaJMFNJ absolutely the Bucks, Sidney Moncrief was a truly great great player

  • @dapog
    @dapog Před 3 lety +551

    I like the fact that Kevin McHale gives guys that he played against their praise.

    • @PunjabiPiccolo
      @PunjabiPiccolo Před 3 lety +50

      I was thinking the same thing. Very humble and likeable guy!

    • @bobbyyates8792
      @bobbyyates8792 Před 3 lety +14

      Kevin McHale
      Is awsome

    • @WilliamMarshall-hf4rg
      @WilliamMarshall-hf4rg Před 3 lety +46

      Kevin McHale is very underrated as a player, coach AND analyst. Very respectful and honest recollection of his contemporaries.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 lety +2

      @@WilliamMarshall-hf4rg Indeed

    • @JMacTheFanatic
      @JMacTheFanatic Před 3 lety +2

      nice guy for a republican lol

  • @tommycleary405
    @tommycleary405 Před 3 lety +253

    Kevin McHale is such a bright guy

    • @661ufos
      @661ufos Před 3 lety +4

      He was ridiculed cause he said James Harden was a leader well he was right

    • @mcnalga
      @mcnalga Před 3 lety +3

      @@661ufos he said he isn't a leader ?

  • @zach6395
    @zach6395 Před 3 lety +103

    Me: What an interesting conversation about lesser known teams before I was born!
    C-Webb: "Butt implants"

    • @FecalMatador
      @FecalMatador Před 3 lety +5

      C Webb acts like Terry Crews in Friday After Next

    • @MarkieB89
      @MarkieB89 Před 3 lety +1

      @@FecalMatador LMAO

  • @PeePeeMilk
    @PeePeeMilk Před 3 lety +283

    If Kevin Michale wasn’t on this episode, my god this would’ve been bad.

    • @mackyj3255
      @mackyj3255 Před 3 lety +17

      Man I swear this is one of the funniest dude I’ve ever heard talk he always has me cracking up

    • @mikerusso703
      @mikerusso703 Před 3 lety +8

      Jet can hold his own

    • @alZiiHardstylez
      @alZiiHardstylez Před 2 lety +7

      Oh yeah, McHale lended some serious authenticity to the question. 100% would have been lousy without him.

  • @jingqi9106
    @jingqi9106 Před 3 lety +138

    McHale was the best player of all the commentators in that room, no doubt. 3 chips, unstoppable on the low block.

    • @naturalfinish
      @naturalfinish Před 3 lety +8

      McHale best post moves ever, then maybe Hakeems dream shake and James Worthy’s baseline spin moves and Dantleys post fade after a foul

    • @jingqi9106
      @jingqi9106 Před 3 lety +6

      @@naturalfinish All those players had excellent post moves, no doubt. Bird was great on the low block also, he just had so many options. Also, Wilt had great moves and footwork and is highly underrated with his moves. Dip was more of a finesse player than power player.

    • @mongoslade277
      @mongoslade277 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jingqi9106 Good point. The Big Dipper didn't use his strength. A. He did was finger roll

    • @sicnarf6971
      @sicnarf6971 Před 3 lety +7

      Webber could challenge him for best player. Mchale did get 3 rings but let’s remember Bird was the Man on those teams

    • @Liam-ex4mf
      @Liam-ex4mf Před 2 lety +1

      @@sicnarf6971 mchale was better than webber lol

  • @Tehui1974
    @Tehui1974 Před 3 lety +26

    Kenny "Don't talk when I'm interrupting" Smith

  • @paletangitau1247
    @paletangitau1247 Před 3 lety +17

    The 1988 Dallas Mavericks: Derek Harper, Rolando Blackman, Roy Tarpley, Mark Aguirre, Sam Perkins, James Donaldson,&, more.

  • @jtell723
    @jtell723 Před 3 lety +30

    This is one of the best shows EVER. Simple concept and I’m surprised other sports haven’t copied this format

  • @dexterbernard2701
    @dexterbernard2701 Před 3 lety +44

    The Bucks, The Rockets with the Twin Towers, The Nuggets with Issel and "The Poet" Alex English, The Dallas Mavericks; Aguirre, Ro Blackman

    • @Cashmere.Kufi_88
      @Cashmere.Kufi_88 Před 3 lety +2

      Denver yeah they forgot about them and maybe throw in Iceman Gervin and the Spurs

    • @dexterbernard2701
      @dexterbernard2701 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Cashmere.Kufi_88 how about the Hawks: 'Nique, Kevin Willis, Doc Rivers, Tree Rollins, etc.

    • @Cashmere.Kufi_88
      @Cashmere.Kufi_88 Před 3 lety +3

      @@dexterbernard2701 them too..a lot solid NBA teams but only 4 teams in the 80s with championships...Lakers 8 finals appearances in the 80s Rockets was the only other team out the West 2 times... Sixers Celtics and ( Pistons late 80s)

    • @dexterbernard2701
      @dexterbernard2701 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Cashmere.Kufi_88 I'm an old-head. That's when, to me, the game was more enjoyable. I can't watch the game today. Its too predictable. Come down and shoot as many threes as possible. Everyone is a two or a three type of player. I played the five. So, maybe I'm a bit biased.

    • @dexterbernard2701
      @dexterbernard2701 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Cashmere.Kufi_88 my neighbor from when I was younger was 'Nique's godfather. When he was coming to NY for the draft my neighbor picked him up from the airport (JFK), I'm from NJ. He asked if I wanted to go with him. Unfortunately I couldn't. I was taking chemo at the time. Would've been a nice story to tell.

  • @undergroundunlimited2282
    @undergroundunlimited2282 Před 3 lety +17

    I love this nostalgia. Man there was great teams in the 80’s. I loved having TBS to watch Nique and the hawks.

  • @MicDeluxx
    @MicDeluxx Před 3 lety +40

    "I still have nightmares about that thing."
    -Kevin McHale

  • @PunjabiPiccolo
    @PunjabiPiccolo Před 3 lety +48

    There needs to be an NBA Network where you can watch any NBA game that ever happened. I would easily subscribe to that and watch all these iconic players of the 80s and 90s that I didn't get to see or was too young to remember seeing!

    • @JustNeedaBeerandPark
      @JustNeedaBeerandPark Před 3 lety +1

      NBA TV????

    • @PunjabiPiccolo
      @PunjabiPiccolo Před 3 lety +1

      @@JustNeedaBeerandPark Is it like that though? Where you can choose any previous game and be able to watch it fully?

    • @abnerdiaz7006
      @abnerdiaz7006 Před 3 lety +1

      Kinda like WWE Network?

    • @PunjabiPiccolo
      @PunjabiPiccolo Před 3 lety

      @@abnerdiaz7006 Yup! Pretty much lol

    • @rubbishrabble
      @rubbishrabble Před 3 lety +6

      @@PunjabiPiccolo no, some finals CBS some TNT and all the regular season games owned by Fox Sports Detroit for Pistons 2004, Fox Sports OKC for Durant MVP, Comcast NBC owns 76, etc.
      Big finals games like Lakers vs Spurs or mid 1980s Celtics Lakers already pirated on CZcams, just type game 7 sort by most viewed & long 20 minutes, and CZcams will light up like Christmas 🎄 🕯️ lights.

  • @ej11481
    @ej11481 Před 2 lety +27

    If you're talking about the whole decade, I'm going with the Bucks. If you're talking about how good a team was at its best, I'm going with the '86 Hakeem/Sampson Rockets. They beat the Showtime Lakers in 5 and put up a good fight against an all-time great Celtics team.

    • @whats_holden_up
      @whats_holden_up Před 2 lety +2

      I agree with this. I do think the 88 Pistons could make the case for best team to not win in the 80s though.

    • @avb6100
      @avb6100 Před rokem +1

      @@whats_holden_up Pistons did win at the tail end of that decade. 1988-89

    • @whats_holden_up
      @whats_holden_up Před rokem +1

      @@avb6100 that's true. I was bringing up a specific year for a team that didn't win. Best team to not win in 80s probably is Bucks.

  • @buicklincoln
    @buicklincoln Před 3 lety +22

    The San Antonio Spurs of the 1980's with George Gervin, Artis Gilmore, Edgar Jones, Johnny Moore, etc., were a really good team that just didn't have enough to get past the Lakers.

    • @paletangitau1247
      @paletangitau1247 Před 3 lety

      Alot of great teams in the west could not beat the ShowTime Lakers!!

    • @mongoslade277
      @mongoslade277 Před 3 lety

      Said edgar jones. Damn lol. Mike Mitchell. One year those spurs played the Lakers in the playoffs and won twice in the forum but couldn't win at the hemisfair arena. Lost in 6 games

    • @northernstar6641
      @northernstar6641 Před 2 lety

      Artis Gilmore will always be a Chicago Bull, to me.

    • @northernstar6641
      @northernstar6641 Před 2 lety +1

      @@paletangitau1247 because the Lakers were loaded with talent.

  • @BigPoppa931
    @BigPoppa931 Před 3 lety +95

    No mention of the Doug Moe's Nuggets and the Passing Game. Alex English had the most points of any player in the 80s.

    • @yoe91
      @yoe91 Před 3 lety +9

      Correct. I've been researching the 80s quite a bit recently, and English always comes up with his scoring stats. The 80s were the Golden Age of the Small Forward, and he was the best scorer amongst them all.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 lety +8

      @@yoe91 Not knocking Alex, but while he was overall the best scorer of the decade, he wasn't the best all-around Small Forward.
      I put him behind Larry and the Doctor, but he could argue with Charles and Dominique.

    • @MaverickHeel
      @MaverickHeel Před 3 lety +11

      The Nuggets could score but they couldn't defend anyone. The highest scoring game in NBA history came from a Pistons/Nuggets game. Detroit won 181 - 168 in OT. That always held English back.

    • @zoo05zoo
      @zoo05zoo Před 3 lety +8

      The Nuggets were good but definitely not a legitimate threat in the West. There was the Lakers, Blazers, Mavericks, Rockets and by the late 80's, the Phoenix Suns. Denver could score but they couldn't defend and because other teams were so loaded, you could predict what would happen in a tough playoff series.

    • @MrAtlfan21
      @MrAtlfan21 Před 3 lety +1

      their defense was laughably bad though, still insanely fun to watch

  • @paletangitau1247
    @paletangitau1247 Před 3 lety +6

    The 1988 Utah Jazz: John Stockton, Bobby Hansen, Mike Ivaroni, Thurl Bailey, Darrell Griffith, Mark Eaton, Karl The Mailman Malone, &, more

  • @artmeddaugh6669
    @artmeddaugh6669 Před 2 lety +31

    It was extremely hard just to get to an NBA Finals in the 80's, only 5 teams did. The Lakers with 8 appearances going 5-3.
    The Rockets with the other two in the West, losing both times. The Celtics had 5 appearances going 3-2. Philly made it 3
    times going 1-2, and Detroit made it 2 times going 1-1. That means 20 other NBA teams failed over a ten-year period.
    The Bucks are definitely the best team of the 80's who didn't win a title. Those playoff clashes against Philly and Boston
    were as good as it gets!

    • @northernstar6641
      @northernstar6641 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly! 3 of the 4 best teams in the NBA resided in the same conference and beat each other up. The Lakers were really good but had an easier path to the finals.

    • @muhammadfarhan581
      @muhammadfarhan581 Před rokem +2

      @@northernstar6641 kinda like bron in the east

    • @MrLarryLessor
      @MrLarryLessor Před 6 měsíci

      @@northernstar6641
      HOuston was pretty good:
      Twin towers - Ralph Sampson and Hakeem.
      They were tough.... they did beat the Lakers in 86.. But the Celtics were SO GOOD that year.
      HOuston could be the best team without a title.
      Go back and enjoy those videos!

  • @Balraj.G.
    @Balraj.G. Před 3 lety +20

    They need to bring this team back again!! Even if it’s on a joint video call...👍🏽👍🏽

  • @SteveGellerMusic
    @SteveGellerMusic Před 3 lety +6

    1. It's the Bucks. They swept the Celtics in 1983. !!!! They played in 2 conference finals and a very tough Game 7 in a conference semi (1987 agt the Celtics). Moncrief and Sikma are both in the hall of fame, Cummings and Pressey were both excellent players, Nelson was a great coach.
    2. I like how McHale answers "best 1980's team to never win a ring" with the 1977 version of a team that DID win a ring in the 80's.

  • @BasketballJones48021
    @BasketballJones48021 Před 2 lety +11

    Definitely the Bucks! They would’ve made the Finals in any other era/decade, yet in the 1980’s East it was UNBELIEVABLY difficult (and then in the Finals you had to face the Showtime Lakers)! They had some amazing teams and players throughout the decade, and racked up many, many wins too. Besides Milwaukee, it’s the Houston Rockets (talking more about with Hakeem and Sampson as opposed to the early 80’s with Moses)… they already made the Finals in 1986 (had to face one of the GOAT teams though), and had lots of years of success ahead, with a terrific and young core, but injuries, substance abuse, internal problems… ruined it for them, in that decade. You also had teams like the Hawks, Nuggets, late 80’s Mavericks, Bulls coming up… that were very good! Even teams like the Cavs or Seattle, could really compete. Most stacked, greatest decade.

  • @kenphillips9904
    @kenphillips9904 Před 3 lety +13

    I aways like Kevin McHale honesty and intelligence and strategy of playing the game. He was not the biggest or strongest or most skilled player; however, he changed the psychology dynamics of the game.

    • @HoratioFitzbastard
      @HoratioFitzbastard Před 3 lety +3

      He was a supremely skilled player. No one has ever had more low post moves than Kevin McHale.

    • @jefffawcett
      @jefffawcett Před 3 lety +4

      @@HoratioFitzbastard Best post scorer ever, still to this day. It’s a shame that teams were so shortsighted back then and that extra machismo killed his career early the fact that he played on a broken foot is just so insane

    • @HoratioFitzbastard
      @HoratioFitzbastard Před 3 lety +1

      @@jefffawcett People talk about the Dream Shake, but Kevin was doing that move years before Hakeem. While I'm on it, has anyone had a better head fake than McHale?

    • @ji5340
      @ji5340 Před 2 lety

      Just incredibly long arms

    • @lucapompey-buslon6857
      @lucapompey-buslon6857 Před rokem

      @@HoratioFitzbastardyeah fr. Aside from hakeem he had the best footwork of any bigman

  • @hopefaith4595
    @hopefaith4595 Před 8 měsíci +1

    3:00 The way C Webb laughed like a little kid when Kevin Mchale said that is hilarious 😂

  • @daveconleyportfolio5192
    @daveconleyportfolio5192 Před 2 lety +6

    Atlanta Hawks. Deep, lots of good players at every position, well coached. There were two up-and-coming challengers to the Celtics in the East. When the Hawks couldn't quite get over the top, the Pistons did.

  • @aussieozzysmoothchillrasta4598

    Imagine if your whole life was just basketball..How lucky they are..And These guys actually love the game..Peace All

  • @camoss3724
    @camoss3724 Před 3 lety +9

    Definitely the Bucks of the early 80s, in particular, when they were a young team on the rise. They lost a very close Western semifinal to Seattle in 1980 (after blowing a chance to close out the Sonics at home in Game 6), then switched to the Eastern Conference and lost an equally tough semifinal series to the Sixers. Those 1981 Bucks went 60-22, yet only finished with the third-best record in the Eastern Conference, behind both Boston and Philly, who were both 62-20.
    That was some lineup: Bob Lanier, Marques Johnson, Sidney Moncrief, Junior Bridgeman, Brian Winters, Quinn Buckner, Harvey Catchings, etc. They just had the misfortune of having to try and co-exist with powerhouses like the Celtics and Sixers.
    How about an honorable mention for the 1980-81 Phoenix Suns? They went 57-25 that year, the only time during the entire decade that someone other than the Lakers won the Pacific Division. The Suns were the top seed in the Western Conference, but fell 4-3 to the 40-42 Kansas City Kings in the Western semifinals. Those Kings would then lose to the 40-42 Rockets in the Western finals, the only time, I believe, that a conference championship featured two teams with losing records.

  • @walterm.robertsiiiphd2157

    The addition of Mark Aguirre was what finally got the Pistons over the hump.

  • @MAFion
    @MAFion Před 3 lety +22

    I remember being 9 years old, walking courtside at a Rockets warmup in 1986. I was there anticipating seeing new basketball star Olajuwon -who was in a McDonald's commercial then - thinking he would be the biggest guy in the world. Then I saw the guy next to him was about five inches taller. "Who's that?" I asked my dad. "That's Ralph Sampson,." he said. I'd never imagined human beings could be so tall. I'd never seen such legs, arms. It was a land of giants. Sampson was 7'4" and wasn't even the center. Unbelievable.

    • @pebutts
      @pebutts Před 3 lety +5

      Sampson was such a unique player. He played like he was a six-six swingman that woke up one day having grown ten inches. He just loved to handle the ball and shoot jump shots. It didn't seem like he really wanted to be a big guy, despite the fact that he could be so dominant. It was strange.
      Ralph was so inconsistent. One game he would be unstoppable, ripping down rebounds, blocking shots, and scoring at will on hapless defenders. The next he was timid and passive. I always wondered if he already had some bad wheels and just couldn't assert himself all the time. But it was odd watching him go off for 24 points and 22 boards in the 86 finals only to manage just 2 points and 7 rebounds in another game. Sure, his averages were impressive, but you never knew which Ralph would show up from game to game.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 lety

      Actually, when Ralph and Akeem were both playing, Ralph WAS the Center, Akeem at Power Forward.
      (Hakeem didn't change his name 'till years later, after Ralph had retired).

    • @atribecalledlen3567
      @atribecalledlen3567 Před 3 lety +1

      @@bricefleckenstein9666 not true. Hakeem was the center and Sampson was the power forward, that’s one of the reasons why that duo was so dominant before Sampson was derailed by injuries

    • @jlobiafra
      @jlobiafra Před 3 lety

      Same here I saw Ralph up close as a kid, to this day I don't know how he got into his car that night lol

    • @jlobiafra
      @jlobiafra Před 3 lety +1

      @@bricefleckenstein9666 nope dream was the center because Ralph had a mid range game

  • @gregorycampbell2164
    @gregorycampbell2164 Před 2 lety +3

    Rip Bob Lanier

  • @Riles3152
    @Riles3152 Před 3 lety +16

    It's a shame that Ralph Sampson and Hakeem only had a few years of playing together. Those 2 as a duo/twin tower and what they could have become is one of the biggest what ifs in NBA history. They outright beat a prime Lakers showtime squad in the WCF the year before the Lakers won back 2 back titles. They lost the finals to one of the greatest teams in NBA history, the 86 Celtics but they beat them twice at home and very easily could have won a 3rd game. Mid 80's Rockets was a potential dynasty that never was.

    • @sirjer73
      @sirjer73 Před 2 lety +1

      True Sampson's knees and the drug problems of other players on that team did them in. Also the Lakers got Mychal Thompson in February of 87, and that was a wrap

    • @jlobiafra
      @jlobiafra Před 2 lety

      Yeah the beginning of the end was the suspension of john lucas, then the next year Lewis lloyd and Mitchell Wiggins get suspended. Their top three guards suspended for drugs. Then Ralph started having injuries. What could of been

    • @yaotmacfrancis
      @yaotmacfrancis Před 2 lety

      how about an injury-free yao ming and tracy mcgrady duo?

    • @jlobiafra
      @jlobiafra Před 2 lety

      @@yaotmacfrancis well they were healthy when they lost to the Mavericks and twice to the jazz in the first round

    • @yaotmacfrancis
      @yaotmacfrancis Před 2 lety

      @@jlobiafra the mavs series doesn't count. that was their 1st year together so they were starting to learn how to play with one another. Yao wasn't dominant yet but t-mac was in his last prime year until his back flared up the following season.
      They lost in 07 to the jazz but mcgrady was no longer the explosive tmac. He was averaging 25 a game still but no longer could he take over games. Yao however was dominant. So i kinda agree with you on this playoff.
      however, in 08, they lost to the jazz again. did you forget that yao was lost for the entire playoffs bc of his broken foot? Big missing piece there and they eventually lost in 6 games.
      again, sad to think what could have been.

  • @a129838552
    @a129838552 Před 3 lety +36

    I can see Matt Barnes’ knuckle shape on Fishers forehead

  • @benoz9303
    @benoz9303 Před 3 lety +8

    Finally some respect for that 80's Mavs team

  • @allsystemsgo8678
    @allsystemsgo8678 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks for adding so much C-Webb

  • @beefcakebrown
    @beefcakebrown Před 3 lety +4

    Trailblazers, Hawks, Cavs and Knicks come to mind!

  • @aten55
    @aten55 Před 3 lety +3

    I really like the dynamic of this group.

  • @juliansmith4352
    @juliansmith4352 Před 3 lety +5

    In the mid to late 80s those Atlanta Hawks teams being in a stacked eastern conference with Boston Detroit a young Chicago Bulls squad in 87 & 88

    • @guaporichard
      @guaporichard Před 3 lety

      Don't forget Detroit

    • @juliansmith4352
      @juliansmith4352 Před 3 lety

      @@guaporichard the Detroit Pistons became a Eastern Conference power until 1988 when the Boston Celtics were getting old

    • @chitweak18
      @chitweak18 Před 2 lety

      The Pistons were better than the Bulls and making deeper playoff runs in the 80's

  • @paulclark4071
    @paulclark4071 Před rokem +1

    I love they talked about those Dallas teams. The Mavericks really got off to a pretty good start as a franchise, after starting in 1980. Making it to the Conference Finals by '86 or whatever it was is impressive.

  • @AntiMTVMovement
    @AntiMTVMovement Před 2 lety +4

    The great Bucks teams with Moncrief and Cummings and Hawks teams with Doc Rivers and Nique top this list.

  • @sleong
    @sleong Před 2 lety +3

    I agree with Mchale the 76ers, particularly in 1980/1982, were the best teams to not win it all. Dr. J just couldn't clutch it but those teams were great.

  • @fredrickjones4574
    @fredrickjones4574 Před 2 lety +1

    I love the bond the NBA guy's have.

  • @elvinfrets4462
    @elvinfrets4462 Před 3 lety +25

    Mchale always brings life without having to showing out.

  • @newerafrican
    @newerafrican Před 4 lety +7

    Kevin McHale and "short shorts"!! LMAO!!

  • @ocfjavier8145
    @ocfjavier8145 Před 3 lety +10

    80’s Nuggets were nice too 🔥

    • @Roc_Official
      @Roc_Official Před 3 lety +2

      Fat Lever and Alex English. Great offensive team, but their defense though... not so much lol.

    • @buicklincoln
      @buicklincoln Před 3 lety +1

      Kiki Vandeweghe, TR Dunn, etc. They were all offense, no defense. That's why they never could advance past the Lakers, Spurs, Rockets, etc.

  • @buicklincoln
    @buicklincoln Před 3 lety +4

    The rivalries were way better back then because the players didn't move around to other teams like they do today. Today's players are friends who make "agreements" in the off season to sign elsewhere to build super teams.

  • @mcoeif
    @mcoeif Před 3 lety +13

    Terry Cummings is the only player in NBA history to have outplayed MJ in a playoff series. Underrated af.

  • @clipz7561
    @clipz7561 Před 3 lety +1

    thats crazy what they're saying about that hawks team, I use them as a sleeper a lot on 2k they have 2 7 footers down low best rebounding team on game

  • @PeekaPeep
    @PeekaPeep Před 2 lety +2

    BUCKS for me and I'm primarily referring to that talent-stacked early-80s squad (Moncrief, Marques Johnson, Lanier, Bridgeman, Winters, OOH BABY!!!). 1980-81 team definitely should've won it all, too. 1982-83 squad in any other year would've gotten it done as well. Even the mid-80s Bucks (Moncrief, Cummings, Sikma, Pressey) had their moments as legit title contenders, especially that 1986-87 team that VERY nearly took the eventual Finals-bound Celtics out in the 2nd round of the playoffs that season. Looking back, they were probably my 2nd favorite team to watch right behind my hometown Lakers because they loved to run the floor just as hard too!
    ;-)

  • @kevinpayton2664
    @kevinpayton2664 Před 3 lety +6

    Milwaukee is the best that never won the chip in the '80's. Three conference finals in a four-year span from '83-'86. They just happened to lose to better teams in Philly and Boston.

    • @angusthecat1689
      @angusthecat1689 Před 3 lety +3

      they had their best team in 81. went 60-22. lost a 7th game to the sixers by 1point, who then lost to the celtics by 1 point in a 7th game. bucks could have won it all in 81

    • @kevinpayton2664
      @kevinpayton2664 Před 3 lety

      @@angusthecat1689 They were a loaded team for sure.

    • @juliansmith4352
      @juliansmith4352 Před 3 lety

      @@kevinpayton2664 Milwaukee in the early 80s unfortunately played either Boston or Philadelphia

  • @pricetilghman2217
    @pricetilghman2217 Před 3 lety +3

    Definitely the Bucks they were scary good in the 80's. In the East it was Boston, Philly and Milwaukee period.

  • @jordanrioscreations
    @jordanrioscreations Před 2 lety +1

    Kevin McHale’s humor and enthusiasm really make this video

  • @x13WARZx
    @x13WARZx Před 3 lety +18

    Why does Kenny Smith act like he’s this great player that everyone knows lol.

    • @jonasjelich4576
      @jonasjelich4576 Před 3 lety +6

      Hes been on TV for years, he won two rings, and he's from NYC so he's naturally pretty loud. But your right it's really annoying he was a solid role player on a team that went back to back it'd be like Mario Chalmers interrupting NBA legends acting like he's on their level

    • @marcoschulz9162
      @marcoschulz9162 Před 3 lety

      The difference in skill between kenny and a HOF player is a lot smaller than the difference between kenny and your average joe.

    • @CarlosMonteroOrtiz
      @CarlosMonteroOrtiz Před 3 lety +4

      @@marcoschulz9162 i mean, any nba player is noticeable better than your average joe. that been said, kenny is much closer towards the low tier than high tier IMO. i believe he's here just because his part of the NBA on TNT panel. Else, nobody would care about him being here

    • @purposepassionandlovetv863
      @purposepassionandlovetv863 Před 2 lety +2

      Everybody doesn't have to have averaged 30 to be very good. When point gaurds actually led teams and ran offense and scored when everything else broke down he was a player that did all that. If your point guard was sub par you couldn't win. His career averages are very respectable and what doesn't show is how many big shots he made when defenses would collapse on Hakeem and cut off Cornbread Maxwell and Mario Ellie and even Robert Horry. He was drafted as a scorer in Sacramento. He actually toned his game down to be traditional as a point gaurd once he got to Houston.

  • @NatTurnerswitBurnerz
    @NatTurnerswitBurnerz Před rokem +2

    McHale's a funny dude.

  • @KingDizzleLTDinc.
    @KingDizzleLTDinc. Před 3 lety +5

    Marques Johnson is the guy from White Man Can’t Jump

    • @TheSands83
      @TheSands83 Před 3 lety +1

      Marques... but yeah.. Raymond! Is that you!

  • @birmingham0613
    @birmingham0613 Před 3 lety +11

    Kevin's 100% correct.Sixers of 80,81,82.

    • @ogphil5600
      @ogphil5600 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah if Doc won those years we would be having a different GOAT conversation

  • @cecilbatt11
    @cecilbatt11 Před 3 lety +6

    The Atlanta Hawks get my vote.

  • @michaelshaw4852
    @michaelshaw4852 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm definitely biased as a Bucks fan, but if you look at regular season records in the 80s, only the Celtics and Lakers had better records. Bucks went to 3 ECF and won 7 division titles. They didn't have Bird or Dr J/Malone during their best years. That was the difference.

  • @johngallagher72
    @johngallagher72 Před 3 lety +8

    Maybe the Cavs ...they couldn't get over the Bulls hump

  • @thamwisai1
    @thamwisai1 Před 3 lety +3

    Love to pick Kevin Mchale brains on all things basketball

  • @jasonburke147
    @jasonburke147 Před 3 lety +13

    McHale, actually Magic had a phenomenal 6th game in the 1980 NBA Finals. There was no 7th game in that series.

    • @RicardoMartinez-mr6tx
      @RicardoMartinez-mr6tx Před 3 lety +5

      42 points, 15 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals... played all five positions. Best performance in NBA history, imo...

    • @waynesmith3754
      @waynesmith3754 Před 3 lety

      @@RicardoMartinez-mr6tx Considering who the Lakers were Missing

  • @zachpapp1889
    @zachpapp1889 Před 2 lety +1

    R.I.P to great Roy Tarpley . He had drugs and alcohol problems and that's why he left from NBA,he came to my country (Greece ) even if he was all the time drunk and with cocaine he was able to dominate the game ,if he wasn't to the drugs addicted now maybe we would talk for one of greatest power forward ever ,so great way Roy

  • @martinbuhrer3893
    @martinbuhrer3893 Před 3 lety +5

    Huh, so Greg Anthony can actually smile. I never knew that.

  • @Riddickbowler
    @Riddickbowler Před 2 lety +2

    Mchale mispoke when he said "When Magic has a phenomenal 7th game...": Did the Lakers not win against the Sixers in 1980 in 6 games?

  • @razorback9926
    @razorback9926 Před 3 lety +2

    The 1980’s “TMC” Warriors had Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, and Chris Mullen. Great fun to watch, but never a serious playoff threat. Manute Bol at center was comical, but he was a sloth.

    • @morecowbell235
      @morecowbell235 Před 2 lety +1

      I'd put TMC in the 90s, since Hardaway's rookie season was 89-90 and that was only Richmond's 2nd year in the league.

  • @playlistiphone8743
    @playlistiphone8743 Před 2 lety +3

    Hard to argue against the Bucs but peeps are sleeping on the Cavs.
    Mark Price was an under-rated point guard. They had two legit big men in Brad Doigherty and Hot Rod Williams.
    Craig Ehlo was a scrappy player who could hoop.

  • @rowdyyates4766
    @rowdyyates4766 Před 3 lety +24

    I know it says 80’s...but to dismiss the Cavs of the late 80’s and early 90’s is BS...you had Price, Hot Rod, Larry Nance, Brad Daughtery, Ron Harper, Craig Ehlo....those were good Cavs teams that came up short because of one player ....Jordan

    • @kisswriters
      @kisswriters Před 3 lety +3

      Took the words right out of my mouth... the Cavs

    • @Blunder03
      @Blunder03 Před 3 lety +2

      They lost to the Bulls 5 times in a 6 year span

    • @RoLPeace
      @RoLPeace Před 3 lety +1

      True. The story is I was coming from KFC eating my chicken listening to the Cavs when Jordan hit the shot. Literally dropped my chicken fell to my knees. Traffic stopped. I sat there on the ground for a few minutes. Damn you Jordan! Damn you to hell!

    • @lloydcollins1998
      @lloydcollins1998 Před 3 lety +3

      Not to mention Steve Kerr who was on that team too from 89-93 coming off the bench. Imagine that, Price and Kerr on the same team! Eventually, two of the best shooters percentage-wise in NBA history playing on the same team!

    • @birmingham0613
      @birmingham0613 Před 3 lety

      Because the Bulls got the ball last.Remember Ehlo scored on Jordan to take the lead on the previous play.

  • @willhall4209
    @willhall4209 Před 3 lety +2

    Wish this was back on

  • @markbrinton6790
    @markbrinton6790 Před 3 lety +15

    The back to back 87 and 88 Lakers barely escaped in game 7 both years versus the Jazz. Like down to the last shot game 7s.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 lety +3

      Stockton, Malone with the prolonged help of even just Eaton could have been a very scary team.

    • @JaronActual
      @JaronActual Před 3 lety

      ​@@dusk6159 I'm told Stockton said he could risk being borderline reckless in going for steals because of Eaton. Even if John put himself out of position, Mark was still there to stop a drive in the lane, or at least give John time to recover.

    • @teofemo7000
      @teofemo7000 Před 3 lety +4

      Nobody could stay with the 87 Lakers. That was an alltime great team. They ran through the West and took Boston out. Jazz lost in the 1st round to GS.

    • @markbrinton6790
      @markbrinton6790 Před 3 lety +2

      @@teofemo7000 my bad, it was just the one year, the 87-88 Lakers they nearly beat.

    • @teofemo7000
      @teofemo7000 Před 3 lety +1

      @@markbrinton6790 no worries bro

  • @mrtwo6356
    @mrtwo6356 Před 3 lety +2

    Just 2hear these guys talk Old School Basketball is just music to my ears.

  • @jberg4187
    @jberg4187 Před 3 lety +4

    The Bucks of the 80s got screwed by the Celtics and then Pistons being better.

  • @alecbalfour2264
    @alecbalfour2264 Před 3 lety +7

    Man I know it’s about the 80’s but the best team that never won a chip was either 1997 Jazz, 1996 SuperSonics, the Jailbreakers and early 2000’s Kings

  • @WorldSystemsMedia
    @WorldSystemsMedia Před 2 lety

    Absolutely love this

  • @slipnorris5882
    @slipnorris5882 Před 3 lety +4

    88 Jazz were tough

  • @lonsolo5607
    @lonsolo5607 Před 2 lety

    Cool video

  • @kk-sr1wl
    @kk-sr1wl Před 2 lety +1

    I want McHale input on kurt rambis lol

  • @looechange7966
    @looechange7966 Před 3 lety +2

    Cleveland Cavaliers. Mark Price Craig Ehlo hot rod Williams Brad Daugherty Larry Nance Etc

  • @hardybryan
    @hardybryan Před 3 lety +2

    Gotta go with the Twin Towers Rockets, but the Bucks had a great team.

  • @eMCEe131
    @eMCEe131 Před 2 lety

    Terry Cummings and Paul Pressey were a big part of that Bucks team. They were a tough, mean, board-banging, defensive oriented team. They always gave my Pistons real trouble.

  • @pep2st8p64
    @pep2st8p64 Před 3 lety +2

    LMAO 🤣🤣🤣,Kevin McHale is comedy.....

  • @birmingham0613
    @birmingham0613 Před 3 lety +2

    Aguirre was a forward,geniuses.

  • @MrDarknesstolight
    @MrDarknesstolight Před 3 lety +5

    Twin Towers. The Sampson-Olajuwon combo was incredible.

    • @jlobiafra
      @jlobiafra Před 3 lety

      What could of been if all their guards didnt get kicked out of the league because of drugs

    • @herecomesdatrain
      @herecomesdatrain Před 3 lety

      The original twin towers in the NBA before Duncan and Robinson

    • @zaneboado5454
      @zaneboado5454 Před 3 lety

      @@jlobiafra Also, Ralph Sampson’s injury.

  • @andthewildisaloes4940
    @andthewildisaloes4940 Před 2 lety

    What song is playing at the end?

  • @guaporichard
    @guaporichard Před 3 lety +3

    The Sonics had some pretty good teams in the 80's.

    • @rik4369
      @rik4369 Před 3 lety

      I think they won it one year against Washington.

    • @juliansmith4352
      @juliansmith4352 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rik4369 In the late 80s those Seattle Super Sonics teams with Dale Ellis Xavier McDaniel had to play magic Johnson and the Showtime Lakers

  • @mellykruger9495
    @mellykruger9495 Před 3 lety +3

    I have the best 80s team of all time that didn't win it at all which is what kevin mchale said. The 76ers with Dr J was beyond top tier. They were the greatest badass eastern team to never win.

    • @waynesmith3754
      @waynesmith3754 Před 3 lety

      The NBA had / has a Referee Problem with Foul Calls & the 76 ers got to Experience it a lot . Portland Finals...Up 2 0 ..Never win another game . DR J should have been shooting 20 Free throws a Game . I never ever seen such BLINDNESS

    • @guaporichard
      @guaporichard Před 3 lety

      They got 1

    • @mellykruger9495
      @mellykruger9495 Před 3 lety

      @@waynesmith3754 And the refs went from being blind to calling everything to drinking the wrong fucking gatorade flavor for christ sake.

  • @millardthomas9059
    @millardthomas9059 Před 3 lety

    Who would you guys pick in 00 trailblazers vs 02 kings???? I can't decide. Both took Shaq/Kobe Lakers to game 7s.

    • @onlykwechies09
      @onlykwechies09 Před 3 lety

      Kings and I'm a LA fan...that team should have won a championship

    • @millardthomas9059
      @millardthomas9059 Před 3 lety +2

      @@onlykwechies09 yeah but man the blazers was up 18 halfway thru the 4th. Had they ass on the ropes.

  • @dannelson99
    @dannelson99 Před 5 měsíci

    Before the 1984 draft the Portland Trail Blazers offered the #2 pick and Clyde Drexler for Ralph Sampson. Houston could of had Hakeem / Clyde and Michael Jordan

  • @apex_prowler95
    @apex_prowler95 Před 2 lety

    Milwaukee Bucks with Sidney Moncrief, Marques Johnson, Paul Pressey, ect

  • @armandazhari1399
    @armandazhari1399 Před 2 lety +1

    Dang that guy strong to 😂

  • @paletangitau1247
    @paletangitau1247 Před 3 lety +1

    The Atlanta Hawks: The Human High-Light Film Dominique Wilkins, Kevin Willis, John Koncak, John Battle, Cliff Levingston, Spud Webb, Doc Rivers, &, more.

  • @Zecamilleo
    @Zecamilleo Před 3 lety +1

    Mchale is a gentleman.

  • @colonelattar337
    @colonelattar337 Před 3 lety +2

    Kevin McHale is good on here.

  • @iam_Gavinb
    @iam_Gavinb Před 3 lety +2

    Nobody:
    Chris Webber: Yeah he had butt implants

  • @GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews

    I'm sure DeMar Derozan loved Kenny's comment there.

  • @MrNaturalSez
    @MrNaturalSez Před 3 lety +1

    Ehhh... the '86 Houston Rockets with Ralph Sampson and Hakeem Olajuwon???

  • @ROUBA33
    @ROUBA33 Před 3 lety +2

    Kevin is a great storyteller 😅

  • @CrownMe13
    @CrownMe13 Před 3 lety +2

    The Bucks were probably the best team in the 80s without a title...Portland or Houston is a close 2nd

  • @tommyrex6648
    @tommyrex6648 Před 3 lety +1

    Kevin McHale is the bright, white light of the room!

  • @TheSands83
    @TheSands83 Před 3 lety +25

    Greg Anthony needs to just not talk.. and 2000s team vs lebron what? Kenny just stop

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 lety +1

      Surely meant all those very good East teams, like the Agent 0's Wizards, that couldn't get through Lebron's one man show in the playoffs and the East's great team (be it the Celtics superteam or those packed and revolutionary Dwight Magic).
      Almost like the ones vs Lebron but in the 2010s.

    • @allsystemsgo8678
      @allsystemsgo8678 Před 3 lety

      That was a stupid comment. The other guys were like wtf are you talking about, lol

    • @birmingham0613
      @birmingham0613 Před 3 lety

      @@dusk6159 One man team my ass.Have some more kool-aid.

    • @birmingham0613
      @birmingham0613 Před 3 lety

      @@dusk6159 Their big star was Antawn Jamison,lol.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 lety

      @@birmingham0613 Impressive kool-aid that you have, Anderson Varejao, Eric Snow, 32 years old and post crippling injury Big Z was a packed team while the Wizards had Jamison while their superstar Agent 0 + all the other boys were never born.

  • @erikhopkins9488
    @erikhopkins9488 Před 3 lety +4

    derek "the snake" fish!!!

  • @abaileyjr97
    @abaileyjr97 Před 2 lety

    Who was the best player on those 80 bucks teams and who was the best player on the 80s Mavericks.

  • @4libruhty
    @4libruhty Před 2 lety

    8:43....had a similar experience with a teammate in high school during a practice...missed shot....gathered to jump for the rebound, looked up and saw the bottom of this kid's shoes....kid could jump out the gym