Infinite Loop with the New Slobad from Phyrexia: All Will Be One

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  • čas přidán 8. 01. 2023
  • The new Slobad from Phyrexia: All Will Be One is a pretty straightforward artifact commander option that will surely be taken advantage of for its amazing combo potential.
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Komentáře • 118

  • @DGlattiator
    @DGlattiator Před rokem +164

    The lore behind Slobad is so tragic.. Back when WoTC cared about releasing novels with every set

    • @MageSkeleton
      @MageSkeleton Před rokem +22

      i don't understand why WotC won't just continue doing novels but release them as actual books people would have to buy?

    • @hyfynorris
      @hyfynorris Před rokem +34

      ​@@MageSkeleton because that would take time to write, and they want to release a billion sets per month

    • @osmanibrahim7102
      @osmanibrahim7102 Před rokem +10

      I blame Hasbro

    • @KnicKnac
      @KnicKnac Před rokem +23

      Or they used to have three set blocks. Imagine telling a decent story through three sets on the same Plane. This one set Plane thing has been stupid.

    • @electricangel3161
      @electricangel3161 Před rokem +4

      They should really just make an animated series for MTG already. There's no way they don't have the money to do it

  • @alexthefae
    @alexthefae Před rokem +139

    They couldnt let our boy just rest in piece

    • @joshholmes1372
      @joshholmes1372 Před rokem

      Piece? Well he's compleate now with all pieces

    • @sallomon2357
      @sallomon2357 Před rokem +1

      At least Melira and Thrun are still alive and well. But still, F for Slobad and Venser.

    • @that-one-genz7835
      @that-one-genz7835 Před rokem

      but... he's under Urabrask so her isn't a mindless religous servant under Elesh Norn:) he's really wholesome in the now story tbh compleat someone who *choose* to be compleated💁

  • @thebannedking1107
    @thebannedking1107 Před rokem +42

    MYR retriever and junk diver is the simplest combo ever
    Love it!!

  • @chromark7552
    @chromark7552 Před rokem +71

    Hey guys look we broke Thornbite staff again weee

  • @Gearhead221
    @Gearhead221 Před rokem +14

    One: My poor boy Slobad 😭
    Two: This goes right into my Bosh deck. Like...so hard.

  • @BillyButtcheeks176
    @BillyButtcheeks176 Před rokem +8

    Artifact goes infinite, who coulda seen that one coming

  • @lysander3262
    @lysander3262 Před rokem +3

    *Dross Scorpion has left the chat*
    *while crying*

  • @v.ruemmele1845
    @v.ruemmele1845 Před rokem +2

    So... how do you win specifically? all i see is a loop of sacking Junk Diver, casting Myr retriever and then sacking myr and casting junk... where is the infi mana/dmg?

  • @beleva09
    @beleva09 Před rokem +7

    You can do it with any two of junk diver, myr retriever and workshop assistant
    You can also specifically use scrap trawler combined with myr retriever

  • @airtempest8945
    @airtempest8945 Před rokem +2

    Ah Myr Retrevier, the artifact looper itself.

  • @williamhiegel2756
    @williamhiegel2756 Před rokem +3

    It’s kind of funny that slobad is actually fastgood

  • @markbutler8272
    @markbutler8272 Před rokem

    I just realized that Spine of Ish Sah is insane with this because it goes to your hand when you sacrifice it

  • @trentblackburnjr
    @trentblackburnjr Před rokem +4

    There's no gain or win con here.. needs more

    • @bradleymalcolm2382
      @bradleymalcolm2382 Před rokem

      Thornbite does 1 damage. So just keep doing it till everybody is at 0.

    • @arduit
      @arduit Před rokem +2

      ​@@bradleymalcolm2382it gives the equipped creature the effect to tap for 2 to deal 1. This doesn't produce mana, and if you tap it to deal 1 the loop breaks

    • @bradleymalcolm2382
      @bradleymalcolm2382 Před rokem +2

      Oh yeah nope, my bad. I thought thorn bite did damage whenever the creature was tapped. Trent is right, there's no point to this unless konrad or something like him is on the board

    • @satisfiedskullservant
      @satisfiedskullservant Před rokem +2

      In artifact decks there are a number of cards that let you draw when you play artifacts or reduce artifacts costs by 1. So if you had a foundry inspector on board and each artifact cost 1 less to cast you'd be gaining 2 mana per cycle of the loop. Essentially infinite red mana. And if you had any artifact draw card you get infinite draws. So whilst on its own it's not a win con, you can easily abuse the loop with others to make it into one.
      I'm not saying this is a good wincon by the way, as it takes at least 5 separate cards to get it. But it does indeed exist

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 Před rokem +2

      Without any cost reducers, you can win with any of Impact Tremors/OG Purphorus/Altar of the Brood/Aetherflux Reservoir/Goblin Sharpshooter to name a few. *With* cost reducers, you can also pump that mana into something like Walking Ballista or some other silly cards.

  • @johnquiett1085
    @johnquiett1085 Před rokem +12

    I'm missing the win con somehow. This creates a loop, but you have to pay two and tap the equipped creature to deal 1 with the staff. It's not doing damage in this cycle as presented, and it's not creating extra mana. Or like I said I'm just missing the payoff.

    • @booqk
      @booqk Před rokem

      You’re not paying the two to tap him off of thornbite, you’re using Slobads ability to sacrifice an artifact (in this case a creature) to add red mana equal to the cmc of the sacrificed artifact. Because you sacrificed a creature,thornbite will untap Slobad, and because the creature was junk diver, it will allow you to return myr retriever to your hand and play it again with of the three mana that you’ve made, which will go infinite. The payoff is infinite red that can only be used to cast artifact spells or activate artifact abilities which is a bit limiting, but it’s a good payoff in an artifact deck. Hoped this helped

    • @johnquiett1085
      @johnquiett1085 Před rokem +9

      @@booqk it literally does not. All you have accomplished is restating my question as a fact. It nets nothing. You wind up with 0 mana and the game ends in a draw. Was that the point? I explicitly asked what the win con was, or if it needs a different wording, how do we use this to win? Is there another piece that is needed but not mentioned in the combo? That seems to be a problem. It serves no purpose without further information.

    • @johnquiett1085
      @johnquiett1085 Před rokem

      @@Customerbuilder I mean there's nothing wrong with that as one potential win con in the deck, but it sure is clunky.

    • @TheAwesomeCouch
      @TheAwesomeCouch Před rokem

      You can do alot with infinite etbs, casts, dies triggers.

    • @johnquiett1085
      @johnquiett1085 Před rokem

      @@TheAwesomeCouch Fucking jesus. Was I asking for someone to just come in and add nothing to the conversation? You can't do shit with the setup presented here. It accomplishes nothing. You need other cards. I'm literally asking "what is the endgame?" There is a rule that says if you don't advance the game it ends in a draw or something.
      WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED TO FINISH THE GAME?????
      Someone else pointed out this requires 5 cards. The video does not name the remaining cards. That's what I was asking for information on. Thanks for being a useless troll.

  • @zackkelley2940
    @zackkelley2940 Před rokem

    Retrofitter Foundry seems like it'd be a great fit with this.^^

  • @DawsonVonDarkcastle
    @DawsonVonDarkcastle Před rokem +3

    It wouldn't be infinite, but you can repeat it: Slowbad, Iron Goblin + Spine of Ish Sah. Essentially destroying a permanent for free every single turn.

  • @TheSkullkid16
    @TheSkullkid16 Před rokem +5

    Better loop: Slobad with Thornbite Staff, and Spine of Ish Sah

    • @dylanfarley8136
      @dylanfarley8136 Před rokem +1

      Oh damn, yeah that's insane.

    • @TheSkullkid16
      @TheSkullkid16 Před rokem

      @@dylanfarley8136 I saw this video and thought, "Wow, infinite death triggers using 4 cards? ....Hold my soda, I can do you one better" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 Před rokem

      @@TheSkullkid16 you're a monster. I love it.

    • @stefanhuber522
      @stefanhuber522 Před rokem

      Doesn't work, Thornbite untaps when a creature hits the graveyard. I mean you could kill all creatures on the board but that's about it. Or am I missing something?

    • @TheSkullkid16
      @TheSkullkid16 Před rokem

      @@stefanhuber522Uh, yeah. That's exactly what you do. Then, when there's no more creatures to hit, you finish the cycle by blowing up a land or something. Have a Darksteel of some sort (Citadel is the best choice since it's a land, harder to remove than a creature) on your side just in case you need to fizzle the trigger so you aren't forced to lose Slobad or a land of your own (no point wasting that mana if they add hexproof to everything right before you cast it).
      I may not play professionally, or even competitively, but I do know what I'm talking about, most of the time. I am human, after all, I can make mistakes too 😊

  • @professorgvd
    @professorgvd Před rokem

    We did it, we broke myr retriever

  • @Feklq
    @Feklq Před rokem

    The phyrexians got my boy

  • @Zorualex
    @Zorualex Před rokem

    Another thornbite infinite. Not surprised

  • @GlassActivist
    @GlassActivist Před rokem

    Get some scraptrawler and tangled root up in there too. Add a genesis chamber for even more crazy.

  • @fatedcypress9222
    @fatedcypress9222 Před rokem +8

    So this is just infinite ETB triggers. Not infinite mana.

  • @ADudeWhoExperiences1393

    Those three pieces are individually good in the deck as well, I could imagine running a self mill reanimation style deck around this guy using trash for treasure and goblin engineer amongst other cards to reanimate what you need. Use gamble and the other red tutor that makes you discard at random to entomb or keep important pieces. Neat!

    • @jacket2848
      @jacket2848 Před rokem

      Just a red version of Emry really, Feldon has been doing this for years 😊

  • @spirititan9780
    @spirititan9780 Před rokem +1

    Slobad, Iron Goblin's abilities do not allow the win con. suggested. So, have fun whilst playin' your loopy decks.

  • @TheMarkvanes
    @TheMarkvanes Před rokem

    What is it with Goblin commanders and that staff.

  • @chompythebeast
    @chompythebeast Před rokem +7

    Sure, just need a classic 4-Card (4th to actually exploit the ETB triggers somehow) + General combo! Easy as pie! Good thing there are so many effects that work exactly like each piece, from the Junk Diver to the Myr to the Thornbite, that way you don't have to get _exactly_ those three cards out of your 99―right?
    For real though, I prefer this sort of combo to ultra-cheese 2 card wombos any day, but you'd have to be a very specific type of Johnny to actually build this into a 100 card singleton lol. Slobad seems pretty neat and flavorful in general, though

    • @ADudeWhoExperiences1393
      @ADudeWhoExperiences1393 Před rokem +1

      Each piece functions well in the deck separately though. You can use some self mill and cards like trash for treasure to help speed up the finding process (and gamble and the likes too).

    • @MageSkeleton
      @MageSkeleton Před rokem

      You only have Junk Diver, Workshop Assistant, and Myr Retriever to work with. And yes, Impact Tremors, Purphoros, and Molten Echoes exist. Pretty sure thornbite staff is the only of it's kind that does what it does.

    • @jacket2848
      @jacket2848 Před rokem

      I've pulled off this exact combo (with emry or Feldon) literally hundreds of times.

    • @chompythebeast
      @chompythebeast Před rokem

      @@ADudeWhoExperiences1393 ​ Of course, naturally. I'm not trying to trash the idea or anything, and indeed it's important not all EDH decks operate like CEDH decks and all that. Hopefully this build has other options for the win though, cuz this combo is most definitely quite Johnny―and again, that's cool in that Rube Goldberg way, as was mentioned in these replies

    • @chompythebeast
      @chompythebeast Před rokem

      @@jacket2848 Damn, that's a _ton_ of play with one game-ending combo. I hope those didn't all come at the same table lol

  • @theabrandt6177
    @theabrandt6177 Před rokem

    Tbf retriever combos already work with a million things.

  • @spartan316kaos
    @spartan316kaos Před rokem

    This is just red-shifted Illuminor Szeras, minus the better combo support of black and with less versatility

  • @O_violet
    @O_violet Před rokem

    Yeah, I’m building this dude.

  • @IanWeaver
    @IanWeaver Před rokem

    Thank GOD we finally broke Thornbite Staff.

  • @OprhanWidow
    @OprhanWidow Před rokem

    So, float 3, pay 2, leaving 1. Then float 2. You'll have 3 in pool. Use 3 for Junk Diver. You're floating nothing, you're achieving nothing. 0.0
    Maybe run historic cost reduction and artifact cost reduction. Like Cloud Key, Foundry Inspector, Helm of Awakening, Jhoira's Familiar, Planar Gate, Stone Calendar, The Immortal Sun, even a marauding raptor, so you can float the mana and cast for free. Just suggestions. 😅

  • @chriswilson9331
    @chriswilson9331 Před rokem

    Just like with Altar of the Brood and Myr Retriever, this combo will be banned shortly too.

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton Před rokem +1

    i would use Workshop Assistant, and make sure to have a cost reduction on board. However, WotC making a "too safe" legendary creature again you can only use this red mana to cast or activate artifact spells so without a card like Prismite on field the mana is useless. WotC could had let it be actual mana and it would had been fine (unless WotC plans to literally print 4 more "thornbite staff" effects that can slot into any deck).

    • @AlbertJanVaartjes
      @AlbertJanVaartjes Před rokem +2

      Yeah, because what this game really needs is MORE overpowered cards that give you easy wins, instead of cards that inspire you to use creative ways to win the game...

  • @greenemperor1604
    @greenemperor1604 Před rokem

    Wouldn't you need to use two mana to activate the staff before something dies every time to untap it? It's one sentence so the creature would have two different tap abilities that you couldn't use at the same time.

  • @davispo7550
    @davispo7550 Před rokem

    Works with Scrap Trawler too, right?

  • @riskybiscuit1405
    @riskybiscuit1405 Před rokem

    Cool flipping combo. I really like it.
    But the problem is I am willing to bet 80% or more of magic players don’t have the wallet to substantiate buying the cards that enable a deck to get all of these cards out efficiently to pull off the combo. You have to buy all the meta goodies and beyond.

  • @newt5024
    @newt5024 Před rokem

    What about illuminor szeras

  • @thedanath
    @thedanath Před rokem

    ITs an infinite loop but you would still need a 5th card to do anything with that loop.

  • @origaminosferatu3357
    @origaminosferatu3357 Před rokem

    AHH yes classic Teshar nonsense but now in red flavour.

  • @granttungate7810
    @granttungate7810 Před rokem

    Using slobad, manifold key, foundry inspector, and spine of ish sah you can lock out the board. At least in theory you can.

    • @MageSkeleton
      @MageSkeleton Před rokem

      what?

    • @granttungate7810
      @granttungate7810 Před rokem

      @@MageSkeleton spine of ish sah destroys target permanent then bounces to your hand once it sees the graveyard. So what you do is you play it with foundry inspector and manifold key on the board, sac it with slobad, make 7 red, use manifold key to untap slobad pay 6 to play spine and rinse and repeat, infinite mana I think if you use another cost reducer technically. I could be wrong though

  • @nycstreetpoet
    @nycstreetpoet Před rokem

    If you a way to reduce the cost of the artifacts you’re playing you can then get infinite mana and machinegun everyone with the staff… the scenario outlined here is nothing new, and it isn’t enough to win. Something else has to be going on here, like a Disciple of the Vault effect, or a card like Farid, Enterprising Salvager, who generates treasures when your nontoken artifacts hit the graveyard.

  • @ronmorey1246
    @ronmorey1246 Před rokem

    Do you realize how Old this combo is?

  • @robertphillips7943
    @robertphillips7943 Před rokem

    Slobad is just a worse Priest of Yawgmoth, hmm 🤔

  • @mundellterrell1656
    @mundellterrell1656 Před rokem

    And by the time of this video this combo we'll be banned ☹️

  • @Shmegg
    @Shmegg Před rokem

    Osgir...

  • @CopyCatPhantom
    @CopyCatPhantom Před rokem

    Is he related to Strongbad?

  • @mtgphtreasurehunt
    @mtgphtreasurehunt Před rokem

    Or play spine of ish sah

  • @anthonycannet1305
    @anthonycannet1305 Před rokem

    Remember when Slobad was slow AND bad? Should change his name to fasgood

  • @bounceday
    @bounceday Před rokem

    Combo needs 4 pieces. Like that would ever happen

  • @fernandob2275
    @fernandob2275 Před rokem +1

    How is it easy for artifact decks to win from here?

    • @cesarvazquez961
      @cesarvazquez961 Před rokem +1

      Aetherflux, or any etb trigger in red like warstorm surge, or any death trigger pretty much

    • @inctinder666
      @inctinder666 Před rokem

      There's a bunch but I'd go with Reckless Fireweaver. It's a creature that deal 1 damage to each opponent whenever you play an artifact

    • @ADudeWhoExperiences1393
      @ADudeWhoExperiences1393 Před rokem

      Reckless fireweaver, purphoros, impact tremors, terror of the peaks, aetherflux reservoir, warstorm surge, altar of the brood, mirror March, and prolly others I can't think of atm

    • @MageSkeleton
      @MageSkeleton Před rokem +1

      Slobad is just one of a growing selection of commander options that will cause players to lean toward playing combo, but it's no Thassa's Oracle.

  • @TheHeartofPraise
    @TheHeartofPraise Před rokem

    4 cards? Yikes..

  • @justinritchie282
    @justinritchie282 Před rokem

    Tbh I'm so sick of wizards returning to the same 4 planes over and over. Can we go back to Lorwynn or something?

    • @alexthefae
      @alexthefae Před rokem

      Well they went back to kamigawa after 20 years

  • @chas3btha1
    @chas3btha1 Před rokem

    So osgir

  • @matthewbailey1850
    @matthewbailey1850 Před rokem

    the combo doesnt go anywhere

    • @jacket2848
      @jacket2848 Před rokem

      Add like, one of the myriad win con cards? Are you unable to use your imagination bro?

    • @marknezanuto
      @marknezanuto Před rokem

      ​@@jacket2848so 4 cards combo? Lol. I have better one - cast 15 mountains, them emrakul. Its so strong that baned in commander already.

  • @asteros6387
    @asteros6387 Před rokem

    wow its the kci combo but... objectively worse

  • @MrCenturion13
    @MrCenturion13 Před rokem

    Just what Commander needs... another 'clever' infinite loop ftw. Yaaaaaaay!

    • @Rh3ttD4v1s
      @Rh3ttD4v1s Před rokem

      Is a 4 card combo going to destabilize the format?

    • @jacket2848
      @jacket2848 Před rokem

      It's hardly "another" combo, this loop has been around for like 7 years

  • @Offensivetrackrecord
    @Offensivetrackrecord Před rokem

    Infinite combos 👎

  • @RegimentJoker
    @RegimentJoker Před rokem +1

    I love 4-5 card combos...