Infinite Loop with the New Slobad from Phyrexia: All Will Be One
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2023
- The new Slobad from Phyrexia: All Will Be One is a pretty straightforward artifact commander option that will surely be taken advantage of for its amazing combo potential.
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The lore behind Slobad is so tragic.. Back when WoTC cared about releasing novels with every set
i don't understand why WotC won't just continue doing novels but release them as actual books people would have to buy?
@@MageSkeleton because that would take time to write, and they want to release a billion sets per month
I blame Hasbro
Or they used to have three set blocks. Imagine telling a decent story through three sets on the same Plane. This one set Plane thing has been stupid.
They should really just make an animated series for MTG already. There's no way they don't have the money to do it
They couldnt let our boy just rest in piece
Piece? Well he's compleate now with all pieces
At least Melira and Thrun are still alive and well. But still, F for Slobad and Venser.
but... he's under Urabrask so her isn't a mindless religous servant under Elesh Norn:) he's really wholesome in the now story tbh compleat someone who *choose* to be compleated💁
MYR retriever and junk diver is the simplest combo ever
Love it!!
Altar of the Brood says hi
Hey guys look we broke Thornbite staff again weee
In other news: Intruder Alarm??
This was true with the war hammer 40k set. The necrons had this but in mono black
One: My poor boy Slobad 😭
Two: This goes right into my Bosh deck. Like...so hard.
Artifact goes infinite, who coulda seen that one coming
*Dross Scorpion has left the chat*
*while crying*
So... how do you win specifically? all i see is a loop of sacking Junk Diver, casting Myr retriever and then sacking myr and casting junk... where is the infi mana/dmg?
You can do it with any two of junk diver, myr retriever and workshop assistant
You can also specifically use scrap trawler combined with myr retriever
Ah Myr Retrevier, the artifact looper itself.
It’s kind of funny that slobad is actually fastgood
I just realized that Spine of Ish Sah is insane with this because it goes to your hand when you sacrifice it
There's no gain or win con here.. needs more
Thornbite does 1 damage. So just keep doing it till everybody is at 0.
@@bradleymalcolm2382it gives the equipped creature the effect to tap for 2 to deal 1. This doesn't produce mana, and if you tap it to deal 1 the loop breaks
Oh yeah nope, my bad. I thought thorn bite did damage whenever the creature was tapped. Trent is right, there's no point to this unless konrad or something like him is on the board
In artifact decks there are a number of cards that let you draw when you play artifacts or reduce artifacts costs by 1. So if you had a foundry inspector on board and each artifact cost 1 less to cast you'd be gaining 2 mana per cycle of the loop. Essentially infinite red mana. And if you had any artifact draw card you get infinite draws. So whilst on its own it's not a win con, you can easily abuse the loop with others to make it into one.
I'm not saying this is a good wincon by the way, as it takes at least 5 separate cards to get it. But it does indeed exist
Without any cost reducers, you can win with any of Impact Tremors/OG Purphorus/Altar of the Brood/Aetherflux Reservoir/Goblin Sharpshooter to name a few. *With* cost reducers, you can also pump that mana into something like Walking Ballista or some other silly cards.
I'm missing the win con somehow. This creates a loop, but you have to pay two and tap the equipped creature to deal 1 with the staff. It's not doing damage in this cycle as presented, and it's not creating extra mana. Or like I said I'm just missing the payoff.
You’re not paying the two to tap him off of thornbite, you’re using Slobads ability to sacrifice an artifact (in this case a creature) to add red mana equal to the cmc of the sacrificed artifact. Because you sacrificed a creature,thornbite will untap Slobad, and because the creature was junk diver, it will allow you to return myr retriever to your hand and play it again with of the three mana that you’ve made, which will go infinite. The payoff is infinite red that can only be used to cast artifact spells or activate artifact abilities which is a bit limiting, but it’s a good payoff in an artifact deck. Hoped this helped
@@booqk it literally does not. All you have accomplished is restating my question as a fact. It nets nothing. You wind up with 0 mana and the game ends in a draw. Was that the point? I explicitly asked what the win con was, or if it needs a different wording, how do we use this to win? Is there another piece that is needed but not mentioned in the combo? That seems to be a problem. It serves no purpose without further information.
@@Customerbuilder I mean there's nothing wrong with that as one potential win con in the deck, but it sure is clunky.
You can do alot with infinite etbs, casts, dies triggers.
@@TheAwesomeCouch Fucking jesus. Was I asking for someone to just come in and add nothing to the conversation? You can't do shit with the setup presented here. It accomplishes nothing. You need other cards. I'm literally asking "what is the endgame?" There is a rule that says if you don't advance the game it ends in a draw or something.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED TO FINISH THE GAME?????
Someone else pointed out this requires 5 cards. The video does not name the remaining cards. That's what I was asking for information on. Thanks for being a useless troll.
Retrofitter Foundry seems like it'd be a great fit with this.^^
It wouldn't be infinite, but you can repeat it: Slowbad, Iron Goblin + Spine of Ish Sah. Essentially destroying a permanent for free every single turn.
Better loop: Slobad with Thornbite Staff, and Spine of Ish Sah
Oh damn, yeah that's insane.
@@dylanfarley8136 I saw this video and thought, "Wow, infinite death triggers using 4 cards? ....Hold my soda, I can do you one better" 🤣🤣🤣
@@TheSkullkid16 you're a monster. I love it.
Doesn't work, Thornbite untaps when a creature hits the graveyard. I mean you could kill all creatures on the board but that's about it. Or am I missing something?
@@stefanhuber522Uh, yeah. That's exactly what you do. Then, when there's no more creatures to hit, you finish the cycle by blowing up a land or something. Have a Darksteel of some sort (Citadel is the best choice since it's a land, harder to remove than a creature) on your side just in case you need to fizzle the trigger so you aren't forced to lose Slobad or a land of your own (no point wasting that mana if they add hexproof to everything right before you cast it).
I may not play professionally, or even competitively, but I do know what I'm talking about, most of the time. I am human, after all, I can make mistakes too 😊
We did it, we broke myr retriever
The phyrexians got my boy
Another thornbite infinite. Not surprised
Get some scraptrawler and tangled root up in there too. Add a genesis chamber for even more crazy.
So this is just infinite ETB triggers. Not infinite mana.
Yes..
Yep
Yeah it needs a helm of awakening or cloud key type effect to go positive on mana
Or impact tremors, purphorous, terror of the peaks for ETB damage
That's all you need
Those three pieces are individually good in the deck as well, I could imagine running a self mill reanimation style deck around this guy using trash for treasure and goblin engineer amongst other cards to reanimate what you need. Use gamble and the other red tutor that makes you discard at random to entomb or keep important pieces. Neat!
Just a red version of Emry really, Feldon has been doing this for years 😊
Slobad, Iron Goblin's abilities do not allow the win con. suggested. So, have fun whilst playin' your loopy decks.
What is it with Goblin commanders and that staff.
Sure, just need a classic 4-Card (4th to actually exploit the ETB triggers somehow) + General combo! Easy as pie! Good thing there are so many effects that work exactly like each piece, from the Junk Diver to the Myr to the Thornbite, that way you don't have to get _exactly_ those three cards out of your 99―right?
For real though, I prefer this sort of combo to ultra-cheese 2 card wombos any day, but you'd have to be a very specific type of Johnny to actually build this into a 100 card singleton lol. Slobad seems pretty neat and flavorful in general, though
Each piece functions well in the deck separately though. You can use some self mill and cards like trash for treasure to help speed up the finding process (and gamble and the likes too).
You only have Junk Diver, Workshop Assistant, and Myr Retriever to work with. And yes, Impact Tremors, Purphoros, and Molten Echoes exist. Pretty sure thornbite staff is the only of it's kind that does what it does.
I've pulled off this exact combo (with emry or Feldon) literally hundreds of times.
@@ADudeWhoExperiences1393 Of course, naturally. I'm not trying to trash the idea or anything, and indeed it's important not all EDH decks operate like CEDH decks and all that. Hopefully this build has other options for the win though, cuz this combo is most definitely quite Johnny―and again, that's cool in that Rube Goldberg way, as was mentioned in these replies
@@jacket2848 Damn, that's a _ton_ of play with one game-ending combo. I hope those didn't all come at the same table lol
Tbf retriever combos already work with a million things.
This is just red-shifted Illuminor Szeras, minus the better combo support of black and with less versatility
Yeah, I’m building this dude.
Thank GOD we finally broke Thornbite Staff.
So, float 3, pay 2, leaving 1. Then float 2. You'll have 3 in pool. Use 3 for Junk Diver. You're floating nothing, you're achieving nothing. 0.0
Maybe run historic cost reduction and artifact cost reduction. Like Cloud Key, Foundry Inspector, Helm of Awakening, Jhoira's Familiar, Planar Gate, Stone Calendar, The Immortal Sun, even a marauding raptor, so you can float the mana and cast for free. Just suggestions. 😅
Just like with Altar of the Brood and Myr Retriever, this combo will be banned shortly too.
i would use Workshop Assistant, and make sure to have a cost reduction on board. However, WotC making a "too safe" legendary creature again you can only use this red mana to cast or activate artifact spells so without a card like Prismite on field the mana is useless. WotC could had let it be actual mana and it would had been fine (unless WotC plans to literally print 4 more "thornbite staff" effects that can slot into any deck).
Yeah, because what this game really needs is MORE overpowered cards that give you easy wins, instead of cards that inspire you to use creative ways to win the game...
Wouldn't you need to use two mana to activate the staff before something dies every time to untap it? It's one sentence so the creature would have two different tap abilities that you couldn't use at the same time.
Works with Scrap Trawler too, right?
Cool flipping combo. I really like it.
But the problem is I am willing to bet 80% or more of magic players don’t have the wallet to substantiate buying the cards that enable a deck to get all of these cards out efficiently to pull off the combo. You have to buy all the meta goodies and beyond.
What about illuminor szeras
ITs an infinite loop but you would still need a 5th card to do anything with that loop.
AHH yes classic Teshar nonsense but now in red flavour.
Using slobad, manifold key, foundry inspector, and spine of ish sah you can lock out the board. At least in theory you can.
what?
@@MageSkeleton spine of ish sah destroys target permanent then bounces to your hand once it sees the graveyard. So what you do is you play it with foundry inspector and manifold key on the board, sac it with slobad, make 7 red, use manifold key to untap slobad pay 6 to play spine and rinse and repeat, infinite mana I think if you use another cost reducer technically. I could be wrong though
If you a way to reduce the cost of the artifacts you’re playing you can then get infinite mana and machinegun everyone with the staff… the scenario outlined here is nothing new, and it isn’t enough to win. Something else has to be going on here, like a Disciple of the Vault effect, or a card like Farid, Enterprising Salvager, who generates treasures when your nontoken artifacts hit the graveyard.
Do you realize how Old this combo is?
Slobad is just a worse Priest of Yawgmoth, hmm 🤔
And by the time of this video this combo we'll be banned ☹️
Osgir...
Is he related to Strongbad?
And the unfortunate cousin "Slo'N'Weak"
Or play spine of ish sah
Remember when Slobad was slow AND bad? Should change his name to fasgood
Combo needs 4 pieces. Like that would ever happen
How is it easy for artifact decks to win from here?
Aetherflux, or any etb trigger in red like warstorm surge, or any death trigger pretty much
There's a bunch but I'd go with Reckless Fireweaver. It's a creature that deal 1 damage to each opponent whenever you play an artifact
Reckless fireweaver, purphoros, impact tremors, terror of the peaks, aetherflux reservoir, warstorm surge, altar of the brood, mirror March, and prolly others I can't think of atm
Slobad is just one of a growing selection of commander options that will cause players to lean toward playing combo, but it's no Thassa's Oracle.
4 cards? Yikes..
Tbh I'm so sick of wizards returning to the same 4 planes over and over. Can we go back to Lorwynn or something?
Well they went back to kamigawa after 20 years
So osgir
the combo doesnt go anywhere
Add like, one of the myriad win con cards? Are you unable to use your imagination bro?
@@jacket2848so 4 cards combo? Lol. I have better one - cast 15 mountains, them emrakul. Its so strong that baned in commander already.
wow its the kci combo but... objectively worse
Just what Commander needs... another 'clever' infinite loop ftw. Yaaaaaaay!
Is a 4 card combo going to destabilize the format?
It's hardly "another" combo, this loop has been around for like 7 years
Infinite combos 👎
I love 4-5 card combos...