Other Mentions: - Baboon Hawks only take scrap from ship if forced into ship (or have a nest under the ship but shouldn't happen in v50) - They do also get attacked by dogs and can attack dogs/giants
@@jbier146 they do indeed attack dogs and kill them as I've seen it happen in large groups. I can't confirm giants as I haven't seen them together before
one update took these pests from "ah its just one/two baboon hawks we're good just tell 'em to fuck off" to "holy shit that's so many" and then you're shutting the ship doors to keep them out on the other hand, you can watch an episode of national geographic on Adamance if dogs spawn too and you can watch them tussle (hopefully).
yeah I'd probably prefer a dog or giant tbh. Dogs you just crouch and take it slow, giants you just hide behind literally anything even if its thin. These fuckers if there's 2 or more and you're not close to ship you're just done.
Adamance has had its scrap nerfed, and the way back to the ship is really annoying. Honestly I believed it should’ve been a higher tier moon to start off due to its danger and its loot, but if it’s going to be a lower tier moon it needs to be made safer.
6:13 While noise doesn't inherently scare them off, it _does_ increase the player threat level by one, and therefore increase their fear. The only loud noises that apply are "noisemaker props", of which there are only four: Airhorns Cash Registers Clownhorns Hairdryers No other sounds from any other source or item will scare them
You got a source for that? My partner and I have been questioning the noise rumour for some time so it would be great if this was the answer. I don’t doubt you, but I wish to see for myself before I spread this info around.
@@SuperSwamper69 I've decompiled the code myself The player script implements "IVIsibleThreat" to communicate fear to the baboon hawk, and it has a number of things that can modify the threat level it reports, including one of you've used a noise maker prop within a short period of time (something like half a second, I forget the exact time)
I had no idea they were this fleshed out in their behavior. So by default, you should think about being intimidating enough they don’t even want to mess with you. Look at them, hold a shovel, be with a friend. But if there’s a bunch of factors that are less in your control and making you seem less intimidating (later in the day, injured, carrying heavy stuff) then it’s better to try to get below 0 fear level by looking away and putting away your shovel so they don’t feel like you’re challenging them. If you’re too vulnerable, they will consider you easy prey, which at that point you will want to take out your shovel and might as well fight them with it. So it’s this really interesting sort of negotiation you make with them where you need to guess what they see you as, all based on their fear level: 5 or higher: “this human is really tough, I shouldn’t mess with him” 0 to 4: “this human is pretty threatening, but I feel confident enough to fight back to protect my family” -6 to -1: “this human is chill, I don’t need to waste my energy fighting him” -7 or below: “I’m feeling a pit peckish and this delicious looking human is so weak and disadvantaged that he might as well salt and pepper himself and lay down on my dinner plate. Snatching a meal this free is a no-brainer”
W guide, fun fact: baboon hawks spawn in pairs. Also when they hear something all they do is look at it, and if they’re sleeping they wake up. They’re also scared of you, dogs, giants and radmechs. If they fight a giant, they win, since giants can’t attack enemies.
Been seeing so many people complaining about Bhawks lately so was hoping someone would make a guide on it. I always just run past them without looking at them and they never do anything. I've only died a single time to Baboon Hawks and that's because they were running by as i jumped out the ship.
@@pikminologueraisin2139 adamance has the loot to be worth going to, but the map size is too large with a tiny multiplier you're lucky to leave with 500+ without bees
I had a loot bug chase me down yesterday, not aggressive but following me until it got mad from being too close, is that new or have i just not seen before?
One question, what does the point system for fear start at? If its 0 then are you instantly prone to attack? That part confused me a bit.... like if i walk out with a shovel and my buddies will we instantly get swarmed because we are +4 points?
Depends, because you either want to get below 0 or above 4 Easiest way to get above 4 is to hold a defensive weapon look at it and be above 30hp with a friend, to get below it is easier just don't look at it when your far from ship
It’s pretty intricate, and I had no idea they were this fleshed out in their behavior. Basically, they will attack if you’re vulnerable (easy prey) or if THEY are vulnerable (self defense), but not if they’re TOO vulnerable (survival instinct says to skidaddle) By default, think about being intimidating enough they don’t even want to mess with you. Look at them, hold a shovel, be with a friend. But if there’s a bunch of factors that are less in your control and making you seem less intimidating (later in the day, injured, carrying heavy stuff) then it’s better to try to get below 0 fear level by looking away and putting away your shovel so they don’t feel like you’re challenging them. If you’re too vulnerable, they will consider you easy prey, which at that point you will want to take out your shovel and might as well fight them with it. So it’s this really interesting sort of negotiation you make with them where you need to guess what they see you as, all based on their fear level. Remembering as much of the info at 3:28 as you can will help you determine which state the baboon hawk is in: 5 or higher: “this human is really tough, I shouldn’t mess with him” 0 to 4: “this human is pretty threatening, but I feel confident enough to fight back to protect my family” -6 to -1: “this human is chill, I don’t need to waste my energy fighting him” -7 or below: “I’m feeling a pit peckish and this delicious looking human is so weak and disadvantaged that he might as well salt and pepper himself and lay down on my dinner plate. Snatching a meal this free is a no-brainer”
For getting them to stop being mad, it doesn’t matter (distance does, farther means switch faster), for getting them to be mad, it matters. It will be a factor in only some cases, but in general it is better practice to keep out of the ranges 0-4 and below -6.
If you’re shoving them into a wall it won’t really work because at some point you will run into them or stand still for a second and then they will hit you.
I think Zeekers sneakily changed the way enemies spawn on all maps. I’ve been getting tons of spawns at 1pm even on beginner maps and I had a giant spawn at 11 am on assurance and adamance
0:51 So what was the damage in v49 lol? Is the difference big? Felt weird how you gave the stat comparison for everything in that segment but then just said it's less for the damage 😅
@@chboo1897 Thanks 🙏 Was hoping he'd see this and add it to his pinned comment, as it's really just bad practice to randomly leave that number out while mentioning the comparison for all the previous points :/
so im a little confused, do you want their fear level to be high or not? what's their default fear level? also, it's good to know that while they're aggressive, they path toward your move direction. that'll probably make it a bit easier to deal with them in the future
@@chboo1897 idk if im stupid or not but i rewatched the part where he explains it and i never heard where he specifies the starting fear level. my confusion also stems from the fact that the baboon hawks get angry from points 0-4 and also less than -6 (?). idk why but that just doesn't function in my brain properly
@@texticks I meant when you said they path toward your direction is in the video, but in reality it isn't that important, just being far enough away from them is usually enough for them not to attack.
yooo i finaly found the mod ive been looking for, i needed a mod for godmode so i dont have to reset run, but tells me if i wouldve died. for practicing. Imperium
The way the title is put makes me think that this is deeper than what's going on in the Bohemian Grove. Heck, the baboon hawks ARE in the Bohemian Grove, my new headcannon
5 things that i dont like on v50: 1- Jester being less avoidable making the run super sheet. 2 - Not run and crouch made the game sooooo much more slow, and somewhat take out Artifice, Rend and Dine dynamics too. 3 - Butler spawns too much on Dine, again making me not wanting to go there. 4 - Bee Butler being invencible. 5 - Adamance having too much monsters spawn. In early v50 betas verisons Adamance was balanced, good loot and good amount of monsters, but now, i dont think its worth it.
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Other Mentions:
- Baboon Hawks only take scrap from ship if forced into ship (or have a nest under the ship but shouldn't happen in v50)
- They do also get attacked by dogs and can attack dogs/giants
why alpha baboon hawk why not sigma
i heard they can also attack other monsters such as giants and dogs. is there any code for that?
How do they get forced into the ship?
@@jbier146 they do indeed attack dogs and kill them as I've seen it happen in large groups. I can't confirm giants as I haven't seen them together before
@@PunMister I've also seen them tear apart giants as well.
I think the myth of yelling at a baboon hawk to scare it away should be actually added to the game
Agree, and it would add an interesting dynamic with eyeless dogs
Yea lol
I believed in this myth for a bit, until they bit me anyway.
IT WAS A MYTH????? WHEN THEY APPEARED I WAS SCREAMING MY LIFE OFF 😭🙏
baboon hawks went from just a monster you could shrug off to the most annoying thing in the game
one update took these pests from "ah its just one/two baboon hawks we're good just tell 'em to fuck off" to "holy shit that's so many" and then you're shutting the ship doors to keep them out
on the other hand, you can watch an episode of national geographic on Adamance if dogs spawn too and you can watch them tussle (hopefully).
I think Zeekers was trying to make Baboon Hawks as dangerous as Dogs and Giants
And he definitely succeeded
you're acting cool and shit until 10 hawks sprint at you
@@kiwiman096Imagine 😂
yeah I'd probably prefer a dog or giant tbh. Dogs you just crouch and take it slow, giants you just hide behind literally anything even if its thin. These fuckers if there's 2 or more and you're not close to ship you're just done.
@@TapZackGamesyes bro
They are the main reason adamance isnt goated
Well adamance needs a downside with that goated max loot, meanwhile assurance is a direct upgrade to experimentation (I want an ass nerf)
Adamance has had its scrap nerfed, and the way back to the ship is really annoying. Honestly I believed it should’ve been a higher tier moon to start off due to its danger and its loot, but if it’s going to be a lower tier moon it needs to be made safer.
@@theivorite1004 Everything is a direct upgrade compared to experimentation
@@kingacrisius experimentation is an upgrade of offense
@@pikminologueraisin2139 LOL true I hate offense
6:13
While noise doesn't inherently scare them off, it _does_ increase the player threat level by one, and therefore increase their fear. The only loud noises that apply are "noisemaker props", of which there are only four:
Airhorns
Cash Registers
Clownhorns
Hairdryers
No other sounds from any other source or item will scare them
so noisemakers = more fear, just talking = no change?
@@wolfcl0ck yup
They don't care about talking, on explicit noise making props
You got a source for that? My partner and I have been questioning the noise rumour for some time so it would be great if this was the answer. I don’t doubt you, but I wish to see for myself before I spread this info around.
@@SuperSwamper69 I've decompiled the code myself
The player script implements "IVIsibleThreat" to communicate fear to the baboon hawk, and it has a number of things that can modify the threat level it reports, including one of you've used a noise maker prop within a short period of time (something like half a second, I forget the exact time)
@@tonygamer4310 I'm not so sure about this, my friends and I scream at the baboon hawks, and that usually ends in them running away from us in fear.
I had no idea they were this fleshed out in their behavior. So by default, you should think about being intimidating enough they don’t even want to mess with you. Look at them, hold a shovel, be with a friend. But if there’s a bunch of factors that are less in your control and making you seem less intimidating (later in the day, injured, carrying heavy stuff) then it’s better to try to get below 0 fear level by looking away and putting away your shovel so they don’t feel like you’re challenging them. If you’re too vulnerable, they will consider you easy prey, which at that point you will want to take out your shovel and might as well fight them with it.
So it’s this really interesting sort of negotiation you make with them where you need to guess what they see you as, all based on their fear level:
5 or higher: “this human is really tough, I shouldn’t mess with him”
0 to 4: “this human is pretty threatening, but I feel confident enough to fight back to protect my family”
-6 to -1: “this human is chill, I don’t need to waste my energy fighting him”
-7 or below: “I’m feeling a pit peckish and this delicious looking human is so weak and disadvantaged that he might as well salt and pepper himself and lay down on my dinner plate. Snatching a meal this free is a no-brainer”
Yo that summary made so much sense. Its hard to remember technical details but when you lay it out like that, it becomes effectively memorable
Baboon hawks be like “I’m the big rat who makes all of the rules”
Let’s see what kinda trouble we can get ourselves into
rats, rats, we’reee the rats 🐀
Thx Bread, they really are a problem this days. Especially when you are transporting loot to the ship.
W guide, fun fact: baboon hawks spawn in pairs. Also when they hear something all they do is look at it, and if they’re sleeping they wake up. They’re also scared of you, dogs, giants and radmechs. If they fight a giant, they win, since giants can’t attack enemies.
It's finally here! I always wondered why it seemed like holding a shovel made a difference, glad I wasn't just being insane
Been seeing so many people complaining about Bhawks lately so was hoping someone would make a guide on it.
I always just run past them without looking at them and they never do anything.
I've only died a single time to Baboon Hawks and that's because they were running by as i jumped out the ship.
wait so one of them literally says "I'm da biggest bird"?
it’s 2024
After 4pm, adamance stops being a lethal company round and turns into a team deathmatch, and these bastards always win.
Bread 🥖 ❤
Bread 🥖❤️
I definitely needed this, ty bred boi
first day on adamance and like 3 of these fuckers camped main door, i literally got instakilled when i walked outside
unfortunately common and its aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
epic video as always thanks
Love the new nests. It's hilarious when you guide dogs to them >:)
Thanks as always Sir Breadilus
Dear Zeekerss,
Why do they exist?
Why MUST they exist?
why are you complaining about an enemy that actually makes the game challenging? Keeps the game fresh
and thats the reason, cus you hate it.
funny bird makes the game way more enjoyable, its always fun watching my squad gang up on stragglers that show up near the ship alone
make weebs seethe
but seriously never play adamance
@@pikminologueraisin2139 adamance has the loot to be worth going to, but the map size is too large with a tiny multiplier you're lucky to leave with 500+ without bees
which mod do you use for testing?
Can they steal 2 handed items? Will they find the items if their are not in their line of sight?
After collecting some data with free cammer, I found out the smallest one is most likely to be in the back instead of the middle
I had a loot bug chase me down yesterday, not aggressive but following me until it got mad from being too close, is that new or have i just not seen before?
Loot bugs act kinda weird when trying to get away from you, and sometimes go straight towards you
One question, what does the point system for fear start at? If its 0 then are you instantly prone to attack? That part confused me a bit.... like if i walk out with a shovel and my buddies will we instantly get swarmed because we are +4 points?
It’s an instant value thing, it doesn’t change the more you stick around them, just what you hold and do
@@chboo1897 yeh but everything is + or - points so there has to be a starting value
@@YoungbloodEric In this case it's 0, there are more factors than bread mentioned though
Im uploading my footage soon, clutch footage where i had the core, and the baboon hawks PICKED IT UP. They huddled together after too... weird.
His name is Bonkus :)
Edit: If you do not call him Bonkus from now on he will be very sad.
Also the plural is Bonki
No
@@Y7Y01 You do not believe in the Bonkus, YOU SHALL BE PUNISHED.
@@Y7Y01 The next time you see a Bonkus he will NOT give you a hug.
@@Churlur nooo 🥺
Bonkus :)
I completely missed something. Is getting their fear level up good or bad for switching to aggressive mode?
Depends, because you either want to get below 0 or above 4
Easiest way to get above 4 is to hold a defensive weapon look at it and be above 30hp with a friend, to get below it is easier just don't look at it when your far from ship
It’s pretty intricate, and I had no idea they were this fleshed out in their behavior. Basically, they will attack if you’re vulnerable (easy prey) or if THEY are vulnerable (self defense), but not if they’re TOO vulnerable (survival instinct says to skidaddle) By default, think about being intimidating enough they don’t even want to mess with you. Look at them, hold a shovel, be with a friend. But if there’s a bunch of factors that are less in your control and making you seem less intimidating (later in the day, injured, carrying heavy stuff) then it’s better to try to get below 0 fear level by looking away and putting away your shovel so they don’t feel like you’re challenging them. If you’re too vulnerable, they will consider you easy prey, which at that point you will want to take out your shovel and might as well fight them with it.
So it’s this really interesting sort of negotiation you make with them where you need to guess what they see you as, all based on their fear level. Remembering as much of the info at 3:28 as you can will help you determine which state the baboon hawk is in:
5 or higher: “this human is really tough, I shouldn’t mess with him”
0 to 4: “this human is pretty threatening, but I feel confident enough to fight back to protect my family”
-6 to -1: “this human is chill, I don’t need to waste my energy fighting him”
-7 or below: “I’m feeling a pit peckish and this delicious looking human is so weak and disadvantaged that he might as well salt and pepper himself and lay down on my dinner plate. Snatching a meal this free is a no-brainer”
For getting them to stop being mad, it doesn’t matter (distance does, farther means switch faster), for getting them to be mad, it matters. It will be a factor in only some cases, but in general it is better practice to keep out of the ranges 0-4 and below -6.
Thanks brad
5:32 I've tried to use this before but sometimes they don't behave like that at all, any idea why?
If you’re shoving them into a wall it won’t really work because at some point you will run into them or stand still for a second and then they will hit you.
@@call_me_bread No I mean I might move towards them (no wall in sight) and instead of backing up they move towards me... happens pretty often too
@@guy_th18 can’t say I have ever had this happen
i swear in adamance they spawn in the afternoon (1-2 ish)
Maybe it's just a challenge moon thing, but could be that night starts earlier now? I swear I see dogs out way before 5pm now
me too@@tequilasunset4651
@@tequilasunset4651in adamance i had 6 baboon hawks and a dog at 1 pm
@@tequilasunset4651yeah that happened to me too, a dog definitely spawned on assurance earlier than it should've and I died as a result
I think Zeekers sneakily changed the way enemies spawn on all maps. I’ve been getting tons of spawns at 1pm even on beginner maps and I had a giant spawn at 11 am on assurance and adamance
i just knew v50 did something to them, good vid
0:51
So what was the damage in v49 lol? Is the difference big?
Felt weird how you gave the stat comparison for everything in that segment but then just said it's less for the damage 😅
it was 30
@@chboo1897
Thanks 🙏
Was hoping he'd see this and add it to his pinned comment, as it's really just bad practice to randomly leave that number out while mentioning the comparison for all the previous points :/
So with being the baboon hawk leader, size does matter!😂
If they are an alpha, will they attack faster/more often or do they also have same fear table as non-alphas?
i haven't had many problems with them to be honest, maybe died to them a couple times, but as long as you travel in groups you tend to be fine
The video the entire LC community needed
are there places where you can leave scarp outside?
Not really. You would have to look at the specific nodes and pathing for each map if you wanted to find spots they don’t travel to.
OHHH i didnt know those were nests i though it was just a random new decoration
Thank you so much for this, overhaul made them so confusing to deal with so this is a big help for me :)
baboon hawks are just cute pigeons
Nice bread 👍🏻
Broo why you like comment i literally said bread
😂😂
Someone told me that making loud noises will scare them off so me and my friends have just been talking at them 😭😭 didn’t know it was a myth
i haven't played v50 yet but i kinda like silly, somewhat annoying enemies like the tulip snakes and now, baboon hawks. i just like creatures :]
so im a little confused, do you want their fear level to be high or not? what's their default fear level? also, it's good to know that while they're aggressive, they path toward your move direction. that'll probably make it a bit easier to deal with them in the future
Bread literally said that in the video lmao
@@chboo1897 idk if im stupid or not but i rewatched the part where he explains it and i never heard where he specifies the starting fear level. my confusion also stems from the fact that the baboon hawks get angry from points 0-4 and also less than -6 (?). idk why but that just doesn't function in my brain properly
@@texticks I meant when you said they path toward your direction is in the video, but in reality it isn't that important, just being far enough away from them is usually enough for them not to attack.
@@texticks0-4 OR less than -6
Purple on that adventure capitalist grind
my friends always told you they only attack when youre alone and not when you outnumber them?
OMG THANK YOU FOR THIS.
Baboon Hawks are so cursed 😂!!
On went in the ship to steal my loot and killed me. Idk if they were always able to do that.
Since baboon hawks have nests that are visible there should be a lootbug nest
they gotta make adamance a paid moon
Seeing these large baboon hawk groups makes me wish we had grenades in game , unless the easter eggs can hit a large group.
The eggs can work, but they aren't reliable
bread.
yooo i finaly found the mod ive been looking for, i needed a mod for godmode so i dont have to reset run, but tells me if i wouldve died. for practicing. Imperium
Never thought that the smartest creature in the game are Baboon Hawks
also you can scream into the mic and they will run¨
That's not true, that's just a myth + he says it's not at 6:12
awesome
Not sure why they had to nerf the power level of the Baboons when they buffed them....
Part of the buff
Before adamance was a thing:
Nobody cares about baboon hawks
After Adamance:
these guys are a problem 💀
bread
you didn't mention they can steal from ship
Noise doesn't scare them....? So i was shouting at them just for lols i guess...
you can easily kill giants using baboon hawks by baiting the giant into their nest and break line of sight the hawks will kill him for you
Can Loot Bugs pick up Bee Hives?
Baboon hawks are cute.
so, the thing about being outnumbered being an factor of agression and stuff is a myth?
no since each player add +1 point to their scared factor
Been saying this for awhile that it doesn't matter
@@cynder2956Oh okay, so being alone doesn't inherently make you more vulnerable being in a group increases your ability to scare them?
Basically, it only considers the size of the player's group, not the amount of Hawks in accordance with them.
@@hiraunia exactly, if i understand what he sayd the more player the more there is around them the more scared they are
Flour power 🥖🥖
Is it a myth that baboon hawks won't attack if you out number them?
The way the title is put makes me think that this is deeper than what's going on in the Bohemian Grove. Heck, the baboon hawks ARE in the Bohemian Grove, my new headcannon
tbh baboon hawks meta it's freakin annoying, imo they need to nerf it into 4-6 roaming group, NOT 10-15 cuz it's unbeatable😂
right they're so lame
🍞
adamance its such a cursed planet, anytime we to there we end up dying one way or another 😂 its like titan but cheaper
They spawn at night?! Um you sure about that.
They are considered nightime enemies, but they can spawn earlier than you might expect, especially on an eclipse
I'm their current state but I can tel you their original state was florida
baboons are annoying but interesting 😀
This feels like an AI script
This feels like an AI comment
Glad they got the chamges in v.50. They were bearly a threat before
I love how baboon hawks look
Basically who is the Biggest rat. 🐀😆
I wont comment for the algorithm
zeekerss tried to make baboon hawks important and i really dont think they deserve that
I literally cannot take these things seriously. They're too goofy looking and have goofy movement.
5 things that i dont like on v50:
1- Jester being less avoidable making the run super sheet.
2 - Not run and crouch made the game sooooo much more slow, and somewhat take out Artifice, Rend and Dine dynamics too.
3 - Butler spawns too much on Dine, again making me not wanting to go there.
4 - Bee Butler being invencible.
5 - Adamance having too much monsters spawn. In early v50 betas verisons Adamance was balanced, good loot and good amount of monsters, but now, i dont think its worth it.
run and crouch is gay as hell
Baboon Hawks FREAK me out. I do not like them and will leave people behind if im in the ship
If they got Alphas, then why don't they have sigmas?
Erm what the sigma
what about the slugma males
Will the babboon hawk steal my girlfriend?
No because you don’t have one
you're already a cuck, you just don't know yet
They spawn at night for a reason. What they do in the day is, well.