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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:34 John 1v1-4 The Word Created All Things
15:02 John 1v4-9 The Word is Life & True Light
25:19 John 1v14-15 The Glory of the Word
29:45 Summary
30:57 John 10 Jesus the Good Shepherd (Bonus) - Zábava
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Make sure you take notes! Here are the timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:34 John 1v1-4 The Word Created All Things
15:02 John 1v4-9 The Word is Life & True Light
25:19 John 1v14-15 The Glory of the Word
29:45 Summary
30:57 John 10 Jesus the Good Shepherd (Bonus)
You realized you just equated Jesus with the father by saying God is the same yesterday, today and forever?
How to refute any heretic with just one verse.....specially among those who claim to love God.
2 John 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
@@ChristOverAllJeremyI was about to same that he just tried circling logic aka the Muslim shuffle dance.
Everyone here all talks like you know, yeshua. But he does not know any of you. You have all lost your way from truth. Not only does anyone not know yeshua, nor who he is, you also blaspheme him and your Father. None of you are of his kingdom! Oh yes, the devil has his grip on all of humanity. Christians throw passages around like they know what they even mean. Not only do you use words out of context, you do not even know the meanings of the words you use. In case you are wondering, yes, I am a Christian. But a Christian of the highest order. You see, my truth is superior to all of your truths. Does anyone dare challenge my TRUTH?
@@theredeemeriam
is that your reason to talk about God? Your a Christian....and from the highest order? challenging anyone everyone come all?????
Hallejuah 🎉🎉my Jesus Christ i Love My Jesus Christ HE is Everlasting Life, we are the children of Life🎉🎉🎉Yeah Hoo raise Your ✋️ Hands ✋️ UP and celebrate Jesus HE is coming 🎉🎉🎉🎉 To Take us up soon very soon Happy Sabbath to Everyone We Love You Y'ALL ❤️
Glory to YHWH! Glory to the Father, Jesus Christ of Nazareth the Son & the Holy Spirit!
Hey Jeremy, thank you 🙏 for the content you share in your channel. Definitely helps people like myself (Ex Muslim) to learn more about The Kingdom of God through Jesus Christ. It was Sam Shamoun who helped me publicly renounce Islam and return to Christ Jesus. 😊
God bless
@@dimitriostsiampalis364 keep spreading Christ over all on Facebook and twitter and Instagram and in your country and other countries but it is going to take years so take your time and be a messenger my friend
Amen, praise Yahweh God.
You all talk like you know, yeshua. But he does not know any of you. You have all lost your way from truth. You neither know yeshua nor who he is. None of you are of his kingdom! Oh yes, the devil has his grip on all of humanity. Christians throw passages around like they know what they even mean. Not only do you use words out of context, you do not even know the meanings of the words. In case you are wondering, yes, I am a Christian. But a Christian of the highest order. You see, my truth is superior to all of your truths. Does anyone dare challenge my TRUTH?
@loufonz8679 did you chat with Sam on Skype or streamyard? If so, please let me know the title of the livestream. I would like to feature you in the channel.
I'm not native english speaker and I'm still struggling with catch every WORD, but brother Sam Shamoun is excellent teachers, so clear and it's easy to understand even for me who didn't spoke even 20 sentences on English language.
Trinity is true, God is one, Father, Son Jesus Christ and Holly Spirit.
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What does 'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME' ( 1 John 4:12) mean?
That God was SEEN in the form of Jesus?
Or that God has NEVER been SEEN?
@@jimjuri6490 God has never been seen in his full glory.
@@TheSpacePlaceYT : What is this full glory, half glory, zero glory? God doesn't change (Malachi 3:6)
'AT ANY TIME' convers every possibility.
Jesus clearly was NEVER God. Not at ANY TIME.
God had told Moses by means of an angel spokesperson:
(Exodus 33:20) But he added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”
People saw Jesus day after day and lived to write about it.
The truth is simple if we believe what the Bible teaches..
Learn study both sides. Not just Sam. You do not know what you know unless you study other teachers.
@@jimjuri6490 Yes it is simple if we believe what th Bible teaches John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, """"""and the Word was God."""" John 1: 14 And the """""""Word was made flesh""""", and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 """"""""John bare witness of him"""""""(Jesus), and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Simple
The real True Life in real time ⏲️ 🎉🎉🎉🎉we Love You Sam and full of the Holy Spirit wow 🎉🎉🎉😂😂❤❤
Awesome for you Jeremy 👏 🙌 🎉🎉🎉JESUS CHRIST WOWOOOHOO FOR YOU EVERYONE IN HEAVEN REJOICES 🙏 ❤️ YOU CAN REALLY CELEBRATE FREEEDOM God reveals to you any language ALL you have to do is ask🎉Little Children🎉🎉🎉Remember Heaven is for ALL THE LITTLE CHILDREN who are transformed into Jesus Christ, John 6:18 Love You-Y'ALL ❤️ be saved receive Christ and raise your Hand's 🎉🎉🎉receive Jesus Christ it is Explosive and everyone experience is different mine was Explosive, surrender your life and Heart ❤️ Hipp Hipp Hooray JESUS NOW WOOHOO
Yes SAM HAPPY SABBATH DAY YEAH🎉🎉 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD AND HIS WORD'S SOURCE OF OUR LIGHT🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
Thank you Sam, God bless you and protect you brother. Keep the fight of our Faith to all who try to fight against the word of God
We need people like you
Thanks so much for sharing This Amazing Revelation with us
Amen hallelujah! Glory to lord!
YES ALL THE WAY JESUS CHRIST🎉🎉🎉🎉😂
YES ENTIRE CREATION FOUNDATION
Blessings brother.....Sam
Gosh, I love this..! You are so good.. thank you, over and over...!
YOUR ARE LIKE APOSTLES !! THANK YOU!!
Uncle sam thanks for this chanel it has been a blessing me and it makes get soba❤❤❤
God bless you Brother Sam.
One of the most important videos I've ever watched. If Sam were a professor I'd enroll in all His classes
Jesus the word ..the word is the creator .
I love this it makes me so excited like I’m in bible school 😂 and I hate school 😊
Thanks Sam 🙏
Bless this man.
Beautifully done as always! Thank you for making these clips of brother Sam!
My pleasure! Glad you like them.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”
John 1:1-5
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
Genesis 1:1-3
“Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee. Thou art the LORD the God, who didst choose Abram, and broughtest him forth out of Ur of the Chaldees, and gavest him the name of Abraham;”
Nehemiah 9:6-7
“For with thee (Jehovah) is the fountain of life: In thy light shall we see light.”
Psalm 36:9
In him (Jesus) was life; and the life was the light of men.”
John 1:1-5
“The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?”
Psalm 27:1
“The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended.”
Isaiah 60:19-20
“There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.”
John 1:6-9
“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
John 8:12
“Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.”
Isaiah 60:1-3
“The people which sat in darkness Saw great light; And to them which sat in the region and shadow of death Light is sprung up.”
Matthew 4:16
“Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.”
Ephesians 5:14
“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.”
John 1:14-15
“The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: and the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.”
Isaiah 40:3-5
“He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.”
John 1:23
No. What you are saying is the heresy. Christians deceived for centuries. Now many are opening their eyes to the deception.
YES WOW AMAZING
Thank you Sir for the precise and splendid Catechesis
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
YES WE HAVE
YES
John knew who Jesus is!
UNDERSTOOD! Clearly and plainly explained
Awesome content thank you
Yes
Thank you Sam! Good stuff!
I have to remember that when a YT commercial pops up while you make a comment, it throws it out and makes it disappear into vapor. And your time was just wasted so YT can make money on a commercial you are never going to spend your money on.
John 1:1-3 is referencing both Genesis 1 and Proverbs 8.
Proverbs 8:22 - "The Lord created me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of long ago."
This is powerful. Amen Jesus is God.
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
THE FACT THAT JESUS CAN HAVE BROTHERS TOTALLY DESTROYS THE TRINITY AND PROVES THAT HE WAS JEHOVAH GOD’S FIRST DIRECT CREATION BEING THE REASON HE IS CALLED THE “ONLY BEGOTTEN SON” ALSO THIS IS WHY PAUL WROTE CONCERNING JESUS: “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature” (ALL CREATURES ARE CREATED BEINGS) Colossians 1:15
A FATHER IS A LIFE GIVER: “For just as the Father has life in himself, (A SON IS A LIFE RECEIVER) so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself.” John 5:26
IN THE CASE OF THE CREATOR / ALMIGHTY GOD HE CAN NOT HAVE NO EQUALS: “For this is what Jehovah says, The Creator of the heavens, the true God, The One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it, Who did not create it simply for nothing, but formed it to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.” Isaiah 45:18
WITH THAT BEING ESTABLISHED IT WOULD BE FOOLISH TO CONCLUDE THAT GOD CAN HAVE A FATHER, MOTHER, OR BROTHERS BUT HE CAN AND DOES HAVE CREATED SONS: “the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose.” Genesis 6:2 - SEE ALSO (Job 1:6; 38:7; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6)
ANOTHER DESIGNATION FOR GOD’S ANGELIC SONS ARE STARS: “When the morning stars joyfully cried out together…” Job 38:7
JESUS CLEARLY REVEALS HIS PERSONAL IDENTITY IN GOD’S CREATION FOR US AT REVELATION 3:14 WHEN HE SAYS: “To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God”
IF ANYONE TAKES JESUS AT HIS OWN WORDS THERE IS NO NEED TO ADD MORE TO HIS TESTIMONY
AGAIN JESUS LEAVES NO DOUBT THAT HE IS A CREATION OF GOD THE FATHER BY ACKNOWLEDGING JEHOVAH NOT ONLY AS HIS FATHER BUT ALSO AS HIS GOD AS HE SAYS TO: “‘The one who conquers-I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name.” Revelation 3:12
(CONQUERING THAT TRINITARIAN LIE MAY NOT BE EASY BUT IT CAN BE DONE)
SO WE SEE THAT UPON JESUS’ RETURN TO HEAVEN THAT HE HIMSELF IS A WORSHIPPER OF GOD - WHY IS THAT?
JESUS HIMSELF BEING AN ANGELIC SON OF GOD AS HE EXPLAINS:
“‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.’” Revelation 22:16
A VERY EARLY PROPHECY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WOULD SEND AN ANGEL / STAR TO EARTH TO BECOME A MAN: “I will see him, but not now; I will behold him, but not soon. A star will come out of Jacob, And a scepter will rise out of Israel. And he will certainly break apart the forehead of Moʹab And the skull of all the sons of tumult.” Numbers 24:17
IT'S TIME FOR TRINITARIANS TO STOP LYING TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AND REPENT BECAUSE IT IS BLASPHEMY TO ATTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO GOD BEYOND WHAT HE SAYS BY MEANS OF HIS ANGELIC WORD (JESUS) AND IN HIS WRITTEN WORD THE BIBLE
DEAR FATHER I PRAYER IN JESUS NAME THAT SPIRITUAL COMPREHENSION WILL BE GRANTED TO ALL WHO ARE SEEKING THE TRUTH AS JESUS PRAYED FOR ALL HUMANS SAYING: “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”
MAY HONEST-HEARTED ONES FIND THE TRUTH AND ACCEPT IT IN JESUS' NAME - AMEN
I'm with you 💯 🙏🏻
By writing it as και θεος ην ο λογος, John does two critical and deliberate things. First, he leaves the article off of θεος, thus indicating that Word is NOT the same individual as the father. Second, he places θεος to the front of the clause which places extra emphasis on the Word. By doing that, John makes it clear by the increase in emphasis, that the absence of the article does NOT mean "lesser." Since the absence of the article does not mean "a lesser god," it leaves us with only one choice as to what is meant: The Word is not exactly the same individual as the "τον θεον" of the second clause, but every bit as much GOD as the "τον θεον" of the second clause. Thus, the absence of the article tells us that the θεος of the third clause is NOT the same individual as the τον θεον of the second clause. The position tells us that the absence of the article does NOT mean "lesser." By placing θεος in a position of emphasis, John is doing the equivalent of bolding it, underlining it, and adding an exclamation point: "The Word was God!"
Now we see why John included the article in the prepositional phrase "προς τον θεον." He was being very specific. The Word is WITH a SPECIFIC being called "The God" (τον θεον). In the next clause, John then lets us know that the Word was completely EQUAL with "The God" in divinity, but through the careful use of the articles John has clued us in that the Word is not the same individual as The God of the previous clause.
One of the objections raised to the divinity of Jesus is that λογος means “the mind, wisdom, intelligence, or plan of God” and nothing more. It is argued that λογος is not an individual but simply a way of describing the “mind” or “wisdom” of God (this was a common philosophy of the Gnostics). Thus, the λογος was not an individual, but simply the wisdom of God, not a “God” made flesh, but the wisdom of God or the mind of God made flesh. That means He did not exist prior to His birth (as God). Prior to his physical birth, this theory suggests that he was merely an idea, or a plan in the MIND of God and that IDEA became a man.
John's construction of this verse is so carefully crafted that it is often called the most concise theological statement ever made. In this one short verse, the Holy Spirit wrote through John a sentence that took me all of this time and space to explain. The Holy Spirit's deliberate use of grammar leaves us only ONE possible conclusion: Jesus is completely and totally God in every way that the Father is God, but Jesus is NOT the same individual as the Father
Doesn't sound convincing. Sorry!
"I was with my mother when she went to to supermarket and I was my mother."
If I make such a statement, people will think I'm looney.
The fact that John uses TWO SEPARATE GREEK forms for god, was to show his readers that he was referring to two separate gods. Because further on he testifies:
(John 1:34) And I have seen it, and I have given witness that this one IS THE SON OF GOD.”
Note the IS (always present tense) above as compared to the WAS (past tense) in verse 1.
'and the Word was a god' is what John made clear. Jesus who was the beginning of God's creation was himself a mighty being. A god. Logically, a firstborn would be WITH his life giver before the others came along. John 1:1.
Another aspect that I never see in the comments is why John chose to call Jesus "the Word". It was "the Word" who visited prophets in the Old Testament. For example, Jeremiah received the visit of "the Word of God". What is interesting (apart that Yahweh visited him) is that the Word of God, who Jeremiah identifies as "the Lord" (v.6 and 7), reached him and touched his mouth with his hand (v.9).
Am I saying that Yahweh touched Jeremiah's lips? Yes. How is it possible if Yahweh is spirit? Well, here you have a Yahweh with a body (no one can have a hand and touch someone unless he has a body). It happened many times in the past (like when Yahweh fought with Jacob, or when Yahweh ate with Abraham).
The Trinity is the only explanation. Our God is totally different to any other man-made god.
Thus, "The Word of God is a title of Yahweh, and John is identifying Jesus with Yahweh.
@@honurapanui : Jesus being called the Word was to do with he being God's spokesperson among the angels. God's heavenly family.
Hebrews 1:2 tells us that Jesus was used BY GOD to speak to humans only in the first Century.
The Word refers not to God but God's spokesperson.
The word of God can also refer to the Bible.
Isaiah 40:8 The green grass dries up,
The blossom withers,
But the word of our God endures forever.”
Or some utterance from God.
Jeremiah 1:4 The word of Jehovah came to me, saying:.....
@@jimjuri6490 we are not talking about opinions, but about the text. The text says explicitly that the Word of God came to Jeremiah. To come is a verb that requieres motion. Someone came to Jeremiah. He is identified as the Word of God. And how do you know that it is a physical entity? Because it touched Jeremiah's mouth with his hands. A spirit cannot touch someone. And Jeremiah recognizes this entity as Yahweh. That is why he calls him "Lord". That is what the text explicitly says. Then, we have a John saying that the Word refers to a person. He is making an explicit connection between the Word and Jesus, because we all agree that John 1 speaks about Jesus. It says, "in the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God and the Word was God." It cannot be clearer than that. And then you tell me that the text says something but it means something else?
That is a weird exegetical exercise.
@@honurapanui : God doesn't verbally speak. He inspires his prophets to speak his words.
2 Peter 1:21 For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but MEN SPOKE FROM GOD as they were moved by holy spirit.
God's holy spirit is a power from God that inspires people to carry out his will. And speak his thoughts.
This could be helpful.
(Hebrews 1:1, 2) Long ago God SPOKE to our forefathers BY MEANS OF the prophets on many occasions and in many ways. 2 Now at the end of these days he has SPOKEN TO US BY MEANS OF A SON, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.
Jesus being called the Word and God speaking to humans USING Jesus are separate things.
God bless You Sam Chamoun👍
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Brilliant!
Good teaching Sam. ❤
Yes i got that
Many see in the beginning of John's Account of the Gospel, a hymn. Thus the line "the SAME was in the beginning with GOD" is not repetitive, but speaking of JESUS being with the HOLY SPIRIT, so that we see the FATHER called GOD, then the WORD called GOD, then the HOLY SPIRIT called GOD, like the structure LORD have mercy, CHRIST have mercy, LORD have mercy. This also mirrors "the FATHER, the WORD and the SPIRIT" of 1 John 5:7, which one has good reaon to think is original but an early copyist accidentally omitted due to accudentally skipping from one instance of "three that bear witness" to the next instance of it.
No. What you are saying is the heresy. Christians deceived for centuries. Now many are opening their eyes to the deception.
Love your content❤
Wow!
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Matthew 16:14-17 shows that people gain this wisdom only by the Father's will. Which is essentially Sovereign grace.
Thank you for the reminder, appreciated.
@@kevindunnell7150 When I was saved from the New Age I kept watching ,,prophetic messages from God'' that had exact info about my situation and how God will bring me back together with my ex-narc witch. A very good verse helped me back than pretty much to avoid all of this new age stuff and messages was ,, And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, ''. I struggled a lot with romans 9 and other passages, but I can't deny that without God I was going to remain in the new age and having 0 information what is even going on.
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
This was good
Christ is the best teacher
He did good with you though
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Lion's cub is always a lion.
Amen, praise the most Holy Trinity!
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
"A god"can be transliterated as one God 😮
Is there any chance you can use the same teachings to refute the Filipino Ni Cristo Church of Christ, the Inc?
what can you say about John 17:11&12
John 8:12 - "Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness but will have the light of life.”
Jesus is a light, just like his mother Sophia:
Wisdom 7:26, 29-30 - "For she is a reflection of eternal light,
a spotless mirror of the working of God,
and an image of his goodness.
She is more beautiful than the sun
and excels every constellation of the stars.
Compared with the light she is found to be more radiant,
for it is succeeded by the night,
but against wisdom evil does not prevail."
Be careful here. While I too believe the Holy Spirit is female, and Jesus' true mother, you must stick with the bible not heretical extra biblical sources. Wisdom glorifies the Holy Spirit, whereas the Holy Spirit rejects such glorification and directs it all to Jesus
@@RuggedCross1 The Wisdom of Solomon is not "extra Biblical." It was in all Christian Bibles until a few hundred years ago, when Luther decided he didn't want it in there because the Jews didn't have it in their Bible. Jesus himself allude to the Wisdom of Solomon (chapter 1) in Matthew 12, and Paul in Romans 1 to Wisdom 13. Not gonna write out something long, because it is likely this will be censored by CZcams anyway.
@@justinwooten9998 Wisdom was NEVER a part of any bible- luther had nothing to do with leaving it out.. It was never canonised because it is heretical trash not written by Solomon
@@RuggedCross1 You're a troll that doesn't care about any of this, writing things you know are completely false. Jesus paraphrases it (Matt 12 - Wis 1) and so does Paul (Romans 1 - Wis 13, 14), forever sealing it as divinely inspired text.
@@justinwooten9998 I AM A CHILD OF THE ONE TRUE LIVING GOD AND SPEAK ONLYY HIS TRUTH! Jesus spoke only from the Old Testament, and so did Paul.Just bcz some of Wisdom may concur with the bible doesnt mean diddly. It is not divinely inspired.
Saying God isn’t God is the one of the greatest blasphemies
I wonder why Jesus never said it himself then.
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
@@clarksmith494But he does say it… everyone around him, including his enemies, knew it… that’s why the religious leaders of the time tried to stone him more than once and ultimately had him crucified…
Hint: the religious leaders didn’t try to stone Jesus and have him crucified for the crime of claiming to be a man….
Can you please do a video about Mormon/ LDS. If it already exists can someone please reply with the link for this channel
Great Explanation aboit the Divinity of Our Lord and God Jesus Christ and The Holy Trinity from The Gospels by Sam Shamounian. Keep goimg Sam, may Our Lord and God Jesus Christ Bless you and your daughters, and May Our Lord and God Jesus Christ Bless us all who stand strong in Our Faith in Christ throughout the world Amen. In The Name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit The Only One True God as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be world without end Amen ❤❤❤❤❤
i had to search this video by typing out the full title... why was this so hard to find?
How do you handle people who just says the bible has been corruptted and refuse to talk about their understanding because no matter what we say we are just always wrong?
Try showing the inconsistency of their belief system, so they can humble themselves, and then you try to show why the Gospel make sense
@@lordsdisciple well First of ALL Start with John 3:16-For God so Loved the Whole World that HE Gave HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM, SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT ALL WOULD HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE, Then Pray with the Lost person, ask Jesus to take the scales off his eyes so he will have God's wisdom and want to receive Jesus Christ by opening up his ❤️ Heart and see how your prayer with him/her will help you get the Holy Spirit of conviction to activate in the person you are witnessing too Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior-Wowsa then that will be less of you, and Jesus dies it ALL for you-Yippee he gets saved rejoices in Jesus Christ Now raise your hand's with me and Let's Sing out Loud and worship God-see it is all about using God's Living "WORD"
Hebrews 4:12-For Gods' WORD is Living,Quick and Powerful Sharper than any Two-Edged Sword ✂️ cuts through to the bone and marrow-you can use it ALL and win as many Souls to Christ-wow how many 👑 👑 👑 will you get???? LOVE YOU-Y'ALL ❤️ 😍
Bruce Lee consumed Beef blood to main his physique.bible verse, Therefore I say to the Israelite people: You shall not partake of the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood. Anyone who partakes of it shall be cut off” (Leviticus 17:13-14). The word “nefesh” (translated here as “life”) refers to the life force in human and animal circulatory systems.
Who are the hosts of the heavens?
Jehovah's witness is true polytheism
I’m not doing this to attack you but I want to share the truth in love because I love you.
Contradictions in JW doctrine and NWT
• JESUS is not a creature or created being, yet according to JW doctrine they teach that he is.
In Hebrews 1:1-3 we have a dilemma in the JW Bible (NWT). It says that JESUS is the exact representation of JEHOVAH (GOD) being, and it is not making a small claim like he is simply the representation of JEHOVAH’s character or anything minor but that JESUS is the exact representation of JEHOVAH’s being, that means that He has to possess all the qualities JEHOVAH possess like eternal existence, omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence etc. (We see that JESUS possess omniscience in the Gospels when He discerns or knows what people are thinking and also when Peter acknowledges that JESUS knows all thing (John 21:17) and we learn that He is omnipresent when He says He would be with the disciples until the end of the age, despite Him not physically being present with them through it (Matthew 28:20))
So already it is impossible for JESUS to be lesser than JEHOVAH or be a created being if He is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.
Now go over to Psalm 86:8-10 in the NWT. In Psalm 86:8-10 it says no other gods can do what JEHOVAH can (according to JW doctrine the gods being referred to here are angels (sons of GOD) which are created beings. To build up on that, Psalm 89 verses 5-8 in NWT says that none of the sons of GOD or gods (heavenly creatures (angels)) are like JEHOVAH, resemble JEHOVAH or do what JEHOVAH can but Hebrews 1:1-3 in the NWT contradicts that if JESUS is indeed an angel (a created being). So how can the JW doctrine be correct about JESUS being lesser than JEHOVAH in essence and JESUS being a created being. Another clear example or teaching that JESUS can do what JEHOVAH can is found in Hebrews 1:8-12 in the NWT, JESUS is being praised by JEHOVAH here and is described as being able to do that which only JEHOVAH can which is what we are taught in Psalm 102:25-27. But yet Psalm 86:8-10 and Psalm 89:5-8 say that none of the gods are like JEHOVAH or can do what HE can. So how could it possibly be that JESUS is not GOD??? Because it says nobody is like JEHOVAH nor can any one do what HE can and yet we very clearly see that JESUS can and it’s not like the text makes room for any exceptions like it saying “none of the gods/angels except JESUS” who they claim is Michael the Archangel, instead it says none, not one of the angels. Yet the teach that JESUS created the Earth but we clearly see from Psalm 102 that only JEHOVAH can do that and from Psalm 86 and 89 we learn that none are like GOD and none can do what He can.
So, if they claim that nobody except JEHOVAH can do the works JEHOVAH does, then if JESUS were not GOD then how can JESUS do the things GOD can do as Hebrews 1:1-3 suggests because JESUS cannot be the exact representation of JEHOVAH if He is not like JEHOVAH or can’t do the things JEHOVAH can? How was JESUS able to do things like raise people from the dead which only God can do if He was lesser than JEHOVAH or not GOD.
Rebuttal 2 - JESUS is not a created being (an angel) as the JW teach.
• We now move onto the book of Revelation chapter 5. In Revelation 5:1-13 we learn that JESUS is not a created being. You can even ask them to check this in their own translation (NWT). Revelation 5:1-13 describes a scene in the throne room of Go were no created thing is worth to open or even glance at the contents of the scroll except for GOD the Father and the Lamb (God the Son). In addition to this all created beings (creatures) in Heaven, Earth and below all worshipped GOD the Father and the Son in the same way. So if Jesus were a create being He should have been worshipping the Father along with the all of creation and if He was lesser than GOD the Father, He shouldn’t have received the same worship because that would be blasphemy and He shouldn’t have been able to open the scroll and look at the contents because only GOD is worthy.
• Another thing is if you open Revelation chapter 1 JESUS clearly claims to be GOD and Eternal as He ascribes the title “Alpha & Omega” (Beginning and end) to Himself which is only JEHOVAH’s. So it’s either two things, either JESUS is a blasphemer or HE is GOD. I think it’s very clear that He is and that the trinitarian view of GOD is correct. JESUS is JEHOVAH (Revelation 1:8, 17-18), The Holy Spirit is also Jehovah (2 Cor 3:17).
• Also if you take time to read John 1:23, Matthew 3:1-3 and Isaiah 40:3 it talks about John making the way for JEHOVAH and if you pay attention to see who the way is being made for you see that it’s JESUS, therefore JESUS is JEHOVAH. (Ask them to check this using their translation and they will see).
Seth didn't know Mark he was calling Jehovah' Witnesses believers in multiple gods lol But to funny we believe in 1god Jehovah-Monotheism. these folowers of the 3in1gods is Polytheism
NO HE IS NOT SAYING THAT YOUR NOT SAVED BROTHER-GET SAVED FIRST BEFORE YOU BLASPHEM God
The Targum makes it more clear . You can see where John got the idea from
The targurm was basically an Aramaic paraphrase which took in to account the whole of scripture done by ancient Jews. I’ll give you an example that’s not like something you would find in the targurm . Let’s say I said in the beginning the God of Abraham created the heavens and the earth . At this time the reader doesn’t know he is the God of Abraham so I’m paraphrasing the text with more understanding based of other passages
So let’s take an actual example
By the WORD of the LORD the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth.
Psalm 33:6
Jewish Jerusalem Targurm Pre Christ Genesis
And the WORD of the Lord created man in His likeness, in the likeness of the presence of the Lord He created him, the male and his yoke-fellow He created them.
Targurm Neofiti
And the Memra of the Lord said: “Let there be light” and there was light according to the decree of his Memra.
Question. If un fact it is true that Jesus died and was resurrected, and he was God at the same time. Then God lied cause he can not die he is immortal. Then we were tricked into thinking Jesus gave his life for us, he never died cause God can not seize to exist and he is God. Please answer. Thanks in advance.
Who told you that to die means seizing to exist?
Also, Jesus (God) took upon himself a form of a servant(philipians 2:7)meaning he temporarily wore flesh and that is how he was able to die
Yes, the Word was WITH God while simultaneously BEING the SAME GOD as the God He was With.
It’s a Spiritual/Supernatural Truth. That means regardless of if you believe it or not, it doesn’t make it not true.
This Truth is above disproving, to deny it, means to deny the revelation that was shown to John, by God. Ultimately denying God’s Word, & calling Him a liar.
This is why we are able to say God
, in His mode of existence (not modalism)
is 3 Persons, 1 Being.
It’s a mind blowing revelation & once you receive it, you can then read the Book of John properly, because he goes on to make the distinction between the two through out his whole book, by the relationship of Father & Son, whom are both the same 1 God, but not the same 1 Person.
No. What you are saying is the heresy. Christians deceived for centuries. Now many are opening their eyes to the deception.
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
3 days ago I had a bible study with a Jehovah witness elder.
In their new kingdom Greek interlinear translation of the Bible. On their website.
He had his own book so in the book version you see the new world translation to the right and the Greek translation on the left so out of his Greek translation Bible I asked him to read from verse 16-20.
He kept reading from the right side there are new world translation I said no no no no over here on this side read this again he read the Jehovah witness Bible side. So I said let me see I literally had to read it he would not read the Greek version.
Then I asked him if God created everything the heavens and the Earth as a says in Genesis and then Luke he created all the establishments in the court systems and governments just exactly what are the other things please just named one.
He had no answer. I pleated.
He then try to divert me to the King James version Bible and tried to point out that there's a capital L here.
I've heard a lot of diversions but this one really took the cake how pathetic and intellectually dishonest he was.
Some strange attempt to use the King James version to prove that his version.
I moved on and I said let's go to the book of John he assumed I was going to John 1:1 when I didn't take him to John 1:11 he ended the Bible study. And start heading for the door let me tell you I never saw Jehovah witness move that fast. I kept repeating just just name one thing just wanted just name one thing.
I should have asked him if he had any miracle wheat
I really need some false hope.
He said I thought you brought me here under the premise that you wanted a Bible.
I said no the Bible study was for you not me.
I am not gentle on elders at all the gloves come off when I talk to an elder. I cut to the chase no nonsense.
I call him out when they're intellectually dishonest which is so common.
The everyday Jehovah witness I am gentle kind and patient. 6:22
and what do you think john 1:11 says?
@@kerimruzam76 I don't think a whole lot about that. I read in context that being said read 6 through 12 of John chapter 1
But specifically John 1:9 and the world was made through him.
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quote : "..when I didn't take him to John 1:1I'm interested in why? what did he understand?1 he ended the Bible study"
I'm interested in why? what did he understand?
@@kerimruzam76 I have a copy of the New Kingdom interlinear Greek translation. You can find this on the JW library website. I asked him three times to read the Greek Colossians 1: 15-20 he basically refused to read it and kept reading the New world Translation holy scriptures version.
I was pointing out "all other things"
In the NWT does not coincide with the Greek which says "all things"
I pleaded with him what are these other things? Several times he had no answer. Then as a diversion he pulled out the King James version Bible and point out to a capital letter L somewhere in some scripture.
I told him I don't use the King James version Bible and it's not irrelevant to what we're talking about.
I asked him again what are all these other things that were created.
He was intellectually dishonest refuse to read the scripture from the Greek interlinear Translation Bible.
He pulled the pioneer plow so fast it was so fast he had to get out of there. As he was rushing away I said God created everything so what are all these other things that Jesus created?
It was a pretty pathetic encounter.
John 1: 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ( In the beginning was Jesus Christ, and the Jesus Christ was with The Eternal Father from whom he ( Christ.) came out of the Father's Bosom.) That now is two, yet one in spirit, and heart, and character. ) And Jesus Christ was God. For he is the same in Nature as his Eternal Father, in the design and the accomplishment of mankind. Hebrews 1 : 8, 9. John . 17: 8. John. 8: 42. " He was begotten, not created. He is the Substance of the Father, and since this is so 'it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell." Col.1: 19. While Both are of the same nature, the Father was first in point of time. He is also greater in that he had no beginning." While Christ's Personality had a beginning."
Jesus Christ was in the beginning. He is the creator. He is the First Last.
Jesus Christ is equal in authority to the Father.
I've talked to JW many times. Their argument is that the Word was God's first creation made to be the agency of creation, and they emphasize that the passage says the universe was created through him and not by him. Of course, this is a reintroduction of the ancient pagan idea of the demiurge. But my question to you is how to answer their argument that they throw out all the time to defend their '
"a god" pseudo-translation, when they quote the passage in Matthew where the Pharisees accuse him of blasphemy for making himself equal to God and Jesus responds by quoting the Old Testament passage and says, "Isn't it written, 'I said, you are gods'? If He called them 'gods' to whom the word of God came, why do you say that I blaspheme for saying I am the Son of God." So the JW argue that this shows that powerful created beings, even human judges, could be called gods. This passage has always confused me. What was Jesus really arguing here?
No,Jesus shares in The Fathers nature,he is not another god bc then they would share the same being/nature,like two Humans,we dont share the same nature,you can die,and i woupd still be here,and viceversa,but The Son exists just as The Father does, Hebrews 1:3 says that Jesus is the exact imprint of Gods nature,no where in the bible does it say that two people are the exact imprint of eachothers nature,even twins are different,but there is no difference between The Father and The Son in nature,character etc,only in role can we discern a difference,but in power,authority,state of being,they are completely the same
Under the old covenant. human judges could be called "gods" because they were viewed as acting in God's place in dispensing justice. The Hb. word elohim is used not only to refer to the one true God but also to denote false gods, angels, and, very rarely, men exercising divine functions (as in Ps. 82:6, cited here by Jesus, in which the human judges' mortality appears in the next verse).
Jesus' argument may be understood as follows: "Rather than taking offense because this word is used of Me, you should examine My credentials, which prove My Father has sent Me into this world." He’s also arguing if what I’m saying is blasphemy then how am I able to do these things
Contradictions in the NWT:
• JESUS is not a creature or created being, yet according to JW doctrine they teach that he is.
In Hebrews 1:1-3 we have a dilemma in the JW Bible (NWT). It says that JESUS is the exact representation of JEHOVAH (GOD) being, and it is not making a small claim like he is simply the representation of JEHOVAH’s character or anything minor but that JESUS is the exact representation of JEHOVAH’s being, that means that He has to possess all the qualities JEHOVAH possess like eternal existence, omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence etc. (We see that JESUS possess omniscience in the Gospels when He discerns or knows what people are thinking and also when Peter acknowledges that JESUS knows all thing (John 21:17) and we learn that He is omnipresent when He says He would be with the disciples until the end of the age, despite Him not physically being present with them through it (Matthew 28:20))
So already it is impossible for JESUS to be lesser than JEHOVAH or be a created being if He is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.
Now go over to Psalm 86:8-10 in the NWT. In Psalm 86:8-10 it says no other gods can do what JEHOVAH can (according to JW doctrine the gods being referred to here are angels (sons of GOD) which are created beings. To build up on that, Psalm 89 verses 5-8 in NWT says that none of the sons of GOD or gods (heavenly creatures (angels)) are like JEHOVAH, resemble JEHOVAH or do what JEHOVAH can but Hebrews 1:1-3 in the NWT contradicts that if JESUS is indeed an angel (a created being). So how can the JW doctrine be correct about JESUS being lesser than JEHOVAH in essence and JESUS being a created being. Another clear example or teaching that JESUS can do what JEHOVAH can is found in Hebrews 1:8-12 in the NWT, JESUS is being praised by JEHOVAH here and is described as being able to do that which only JEHOVAH can which is what we are taught in Psalm 102:25-27. But yet Psalm 86:8-10 and Psalm 89:5-8 say that none of the gods are like JEHOVAH or can do what HE can. So how could it possibly be that JESUS is not GOD??? Because it says nobody is like JEHOVAH nor can any one do what HE can and yet we very clearly see that JESUS can and it’s not like the text makes room for any exceptions like it saying “none of the gods/angels except JESUS” who they claim is Michael the Archangel, instead it says none, not one of the angels. Yet the teach that JESUS created the Earth but we clearly see from Psalm 102 that only JEHOVAH can do that and from Psalm 86 and 89 we learn that none are like GOD and none can do what He can.
So, if they claim that nobody except JEHOVAH can do the works JEHOVAH does, then if JESUS were not GOD then how can JESUS do the things GOD can do as Hebrews 1:1-3 suggests because JESUS cannot be the exact representation of JEHOVAH if He is not like JEHOVAH or can’t do the things JEHOVAH can? How was JESUS able to do things like raise people from the dead which only God can do if He was lesser than JEHOVAH or not GOD.
Rebuttal 2 - JESUS is not a created being (an angel) as the JW teach.
• We now move onto the book of Revelation chapter 5. In Revelation 5:1-13 we learn that JESUS is not a created being. You can even ask them to check this in their own translation (NWT). Revelation 5:1-13 describes a scene in the throne room of Go were no created thing is worth to open or even glance at the contents of the scroll except for GOD the Father and the Lamb (God the Son). In addition to this all created beings (creatures) in Heaven, Earth and below all worshipped GOD the Father and the Son in the same way. So if Jesus were a create being He should have been worshipping the Father along with the all of creation and if He was lesser than GOD the Father, He shouldn’t have received the same worship because that would be blasphemy and He shouldn’t have been able to open the scroll and look at the contents because only GOD is worthy.
• Another thing is if you open Revelation chapter 1 JESUS clearly claims to be GOD and Eternal as He ascribes the title “Alpha & Omega” (Beginning and end) to Himself which is only JEHOVAH’s. So it’s either two things, either JESUS is a blasphemer or HE is GOD. I think it’s very clear that He is and that the trinitarian view of GOD is correct. JESUS is JEHOVAH (Revelation 1:8, 17-18), The Holy Spirit is also Jehovah (2 Cor 3:17).
• Also if you take time to read John 1:23, Matthew 3:1-3 and Isaiah 40:3 it talks about John making the way for JEHOVAH and if you pay attention to see who the way is being made for you see that it’s JESUS, therefore JESUS is JEHOVAH. (Ask them to check this using their translation and they will see).
You can also go to John 1:3. If you pay attention it says nothing was made without Him. Literally everything, so nothing could have been created without Him and if Jesus was a created being then that includes Him but you see Jesus is not a created being and if it was John would probably say something like everything except Jesus.
Proverbes 8:22-30
22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
This is Solomon that is talking here, not Jesus or anyone else
Exept for the fact that Jesus was the Word of God, he was no different from any of us.
People that had NDE finds out that we all are aspects or God that experiences himself in human experience.
"In the beginning" , God has a beginning now? 🤔
The Eternal. (Self existing). God who has no beginning nor end... The Alpha and Omega....
Begined a beginning
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
God doesn't, but you do.
Its says it was made by him not thru him
Should be using KJV....
At 0:51...SAM...you said "HE" was in the beginning with "GOD"...
Please show us where in John 1:2 it says "HE" in the GREEK... In John 1:2 Christians deliberately MISTRANSLATE the PRONOUN “IT” to “HE
Even Jesus himself refers to LOGOS (WORD) as "IT"
Luke 11:28...He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the LOGOS of God and obey 👉it.”👈
You notice that Jesus does NOT say...and obey "ME"
Bro. The word was with God meaning whatever God says it just has to happen that's what the word mean. Not separated from him. God is the word!!@ whatever he spoke is happen in existence. You gotta explain it clearer SHOMOUN
Hassamo is a deceiver!!
Just as God gave Moses his brother Aaron to be his mouthpiece, his spokesman, God himself also uses Jesus as his mouthpiece, as his spokesman. That is why Jesus was called The Word of God in the beginning of creation!
The very name; The word of God, indicates that Jesus is the mouthpiece, the spokesperson of God the Father.
This is how everything was created THROUGH The Word of God/Jesus.
YeHoVaH therefore remains the only true God, while The Word of God is his mouthpiece!
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31
YHWH is Jesus Christ.
What happened to the god that was with the Word
Ye must...
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How you born again?
You better know the gospel of salvation for your soul according to
1 Corinthians 15.1-4 and Galatians 1.8-9
Don't add to the gospel of salvation, whosoever preaches a different gospel is anathema.
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@@Iampowerful8 John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. ~Jesus
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
You are inferring the WORD is JESUS. The WORD is just that the word Of GOD MANIFESTED through Jesus. GODS WORD
No. What you are saying is the heresy. Christians deceived for centuries. Now many are opening their eyes to the deception.
The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. This is Jesus.
@@fredferren8585 YOU are still inferring the WORD is Jesus. The word which is GODS word MANIFESTED through Jesus WHOM god CHOSE to communicate with us THROUGH JESUS does NOT make JESUS GOD. Jesus said NOT MY WORDS and NOT MY WILL which means he is not GOD. Because you see the word FLESH you infer the WORD is meaning JESUS
@@MrWorldchamp1The Word of God is Jesus Christ.
In Hebrew Dbar means Word.
Bar in Hebrew means Son.
The Word of God that spoke in the OT is Jesus Christ who was made flesh.
Yes the Word of God that became flesh is Jesus Christ.
John clearly testifies that Jesus is:
(John 1:34) And I have seen it, and I have given witness that this one IS THE SON OF GOD.”
When someone achieves something THROUGH another, the credit goes to the one who empowered the other to carry out his task.
All things were created by God THROUGH Jesus, means that Jesus was a means to an end.
Jesus himself couldn't do any creating as he himself was God's beginning of creation.
That is why God speaks to Jesus, his firstborn son and says, "Let us MAKE..." And not 'CREATE'. Genesis 1:26.
Revelation 3:14....These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the BEGINNING of the creation by God:
Your comment will probably disappear shortly. Far too logical.
And it’s still here. By the way, Jim is a regular commenter. Ask him if his comments get deleted.
@ChristOverAllJeremy I'm glad about that. He makes some good points.
@@MrMore470 : I've had my comments deleted on some videos. One uploader has barred me from replying to other's comments on all his videos. Not sure how he managed it.
My comments are not with any purpose of looking for followers. But to help people think for themselves with scriptures surreptitiously avoided by videos with an agenda.
'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME' (1 John 4:12) being one clear scripture that shows that Jesus was NEVER God.
John the writer, SAW Jesus as did many others.
@jimjuri6490 yep same here.
I used another account as I was interested in why there was zero feedback.. I see my comments are on my own screen but not able to be seen by others.
Like I said to this guy who I guess managed to block "frank lee", an echo chamber is super boring.
Also, Good on you Jeremy if you don't actually block legit questions or statements.
Maybe it was a misunderstanding.
The ones that do shadow ban obviously are not too confident in discussing with people that have had a few minutes to think about the topic. Like 1nemind, he drops a big subject on an unsuspecting person and then won't allow others to discuss it with him.
Weak.
The Word possesses godlike attributes. “The Word was a god,” or “was divine.” (John 1:1; An American Translation) Jesus is “the reflection of God’s glory and the exact representation of his very being.”-Hebrews 1:2, 3.
The Word serves as God’s spokesman. The title “the Word” apparently identifies its bearer as one whom God uses to convey information and instructions. Jesus said that he performed this role: “The Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak. . . . So, whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me.”-John 12:49, 50.
The expression “the word of God” usually refers to a divine message or to a collection of those messages. (Luke 11:28) In a few places, “The Word of God” or “the Word” is used as a personal title.-Revelation 19:13; John 1:14.
A divine message. The prophets often stated that the messages they delivered were God’s word. For example, Jeremiah introduced his prophetic messages with the expression “the word of Jehovah came to me.” (Jeremiah 1:4, 11, 13; 2:1) Before telling Saul that God had chosen him as king, the prophet Samuel said: “Stand still now, so that I may let you hear the word of God.”-1 Samuel 9:27.
The Word lived before all other creation. “In the beginning was the Word . . . This one was in the beginning with God.” (John 1:1, 2) Jesus is “the firstborn of all creation . . . He is before all other things.”-Colossians 1:13-15, 17.
That American translation is the Jehovah's witness Bible. Don't read that cult's Bible.
Lol “an American translation” as if we don’t know it’s the NWT. Already have a video on “the word was A god” in the queue. See how that causes huge problems.
@@ChristOverAllJeremy I understand that you have... and I know you don't understand So Jesus being the first Born as the bible says (right) bible says this. Then you said what kind of god exist before all creation that would be the Angels, because all things were created through him and for him. ( it's like for us we look down at our child and say i want to give you everything) and Jehovah did.
Jehovah God was never created.
In the Bible Jesus was... so we know all the day in the first Book, 6 days right "God of order" days 1-6 everything made.
Jesus is called the first and the last. right first creation and last to be resurrected by God because Jesus now has this honor. this is all in the bible.
All the Angel can be destroyed right Satan will, with all that followed him. Jesus died and 3 day later Jehovah raised him up and for his loyal obedience, God has given Jesus the power of life, he dies no more. Jesus is my savior. Jesus died Jehovah God can't this alone is evidence.
The Church was wrong. look what they've done, bowing to idols, praising men as saints, I can on and on. All the death in the name of God. They will be destroyed soon.
Which path are you on because there are 2 gates the small one has few the other is many, so over 1billion followers of the three person 1 god faith that's not small or few?
Matthew 7
In your heart you have to know this, if not then, I don't what to say other than enjoy the life you have now.
So many of you I've spoken with strong minds and good recall but weak to the spirit.
I know Jw's have made mistake spoken in error, just like the nation of Israel. It was away, come back to me do good follow and so we have done and are doing the work Jesus commanded. Please who else is doing this work worldwide... Matthew 24:14 are you really teach these followers that look up to you to do good works or is it let me prove you wrong. This is not Jehovah or Jesus' way. By their fruits Matthew 7:16-2
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No. What you are saying is the heresy. Christians deceived for centuries. Now many are opening their eyes to the deception.
Jesus came NOT in his own name or authority john5:43-44=jahovah= salvation❤❤.
If you believed Moses, you would believe me, Moses wrote about me.
That's because Jesus Christ isn't another person with his own will he is the creator that came in the flesh and had Only God's will because he is God
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
You are confusing the meaning and definition of the word divine.
Divine simply means from heaven. God is from heaven, The Word of God who became Jesus is from heaven. And angels are from heaven!
The one God does not exist is more than one person. You could accurately say that Jesus/The Word, and the angels are all the same kind of Being, which is spirit, but they're not the same person or individual. Neither are they co-equal in any way at any time! The Father is always superior!
Jesus explained at John 4:24 that his Father is an invisible spirit. Hebrews 1:7 says that angels are spirits. And John 1:1 explains that The Word of God was a spirit, in the same form as God, who became flesh, a man according to Philippians 2:5-11.
That is why Philippians 2:5-11 says that The Word of God humbled himself and became a servant, a slave.
If God really was a coequal Trinity, then when The Word of God became a man, a slave, there was no longer a co-equal Trinity. One member of the Trinity had been reduced to a slave!
This is why Jesus explains to us at John 17: 1-3 that his Father is the only true God! And Jesus explains at John 14:28 that he is not equal to his Father!
And, this is why God himself explains to us at first Corinthians 15 23 through 28 that, even though he places all authority under the subjection of his son Jesus, God the Father is the exception to that! Jesus continues to be in subjection to the Father, who eventually becomes all things to all people! The whole point of all of this that has happened in human history is to return God the Father to his rightful position of authority and supremacy over all creation!
The Trinity doctrine prevents that from occurring!
Further, the Trinity doctrine allows for the deception of the Antichrist in tricking the elect into worshiping the IMAGE of the slain lamb at Revelation 13!
Who is the slain lamb but Jesus Christ himself! Who is hung in effigy in the sanctuary of the Catholic Church? It is dead Jesus hung on the cross whom Catholics bow down to!!! The Antichrist has succeeded in getting the precious Elect of God existing among the Catholics into worshiping an idol!
But when those elect run to the Protestant church to escape idolatry, they run into the trap of worshiping the IMAGE of God, which Jesus is at Colossians 1:15! We are forbidden to worship IMAGES at Exodus 20:4! So again the Antichrist has tricked us into worshiping the slain lamb!
Get out of her my people, we are warned in Revelation! If we don't want to share in the plagues of the harlot of Revelation we have to get out of her! She has been given opportunity to repent, and tear down that idol and break that cross, but she has refused! Now the Muslims will do it for her!
The Protestants got rid of the idol of Jesus from their churches centuries ago, but the Catholic Church still tricks Catholics into bowing down to it!
But the Protestant Church, being the daughters of the harlot, are still worshiping the IMAGE of God in the form of Jesus Christ.
Jesus warned us that this deception would be so tricky that it would fool even the Elect! Even the children who were being careful not to worship idols would be fooled by it! But now the deception is revealed and the Antichrist is identified!
Little children, guard yourself from idols!
Jesus told his apostles that he would destroy this temple, and in 3 days raise it up again. They thought he was talking about the Stone Temple, but he was talking about the Temple of flesh of his body.
Jesus was trying to explain to his apostles that the Stone Temple was going to be destroyed, and the spirit of the Holy God which dwelled in the Holy of Holies above the Ark of the Covenant would move from the Stone Temple to the Temple of flesh of Jesus' body!
When Jesus gave up the spirit of God as he died on the cross, he cried out to his father, why have you forsaken me?
Because the spirit of God had left the temple of flesh just as it left the temple of stone for the same reason; it was defiled with the sins of mankind!
If Jesus was the God, the God would not have left Jesus body. Jesus would have continued to be co-equal with God the Father, but he wasn't! He was dead!
Jesus explains to us for clarification at John 17:1-3 that his father is the only true God, and that is exactly what Jesus meant!
Jesus explains for clarification at John 17:1-3 that Jesus is the one sent by the Father! Jesus is the one crushed by the Father! Jesus is the one sacrificed by the Father! Just like that Stone Temple! Just like the Levitical priesthood, ust like the animal sacrifices!
Jesus is the source of life because God gave Jesus life within himself after he proved himself loyal all the way to a torturous death on the cross! God gave him life within himself! Nevertheless, God says at first Corinthians 15:23 through 28 that the son remains in subjection to the Father, even as everything else is in subjection to the Son!
John 1:9 makes sense because the father gave his loyal son who fulfilled the requirements of Psalm 82 to rule righteously, and to die as men do, life within himself!
Jesus is NOT YeHoVaH! Jesus is just what he said he is, the son of God at John 10:36. Jesus is NOT equal to the Father just as he said at John 14:28!
You accept all of John with the exception of the two scriptures which contradict you!
You reject John 17:1-3 and John 14:28!
You endanger yourself because Jesus said knowing this fact that the Father is the only true God means everlasting life!
Jesus is trying to warn you away from the deception of even the Elect at Revelation 13!
Get out of her my people!
The creature is the true light because God gave Jesus the authority, life within himself, light within himself!
Read 1 Corinthians 15:23 through 28 where God himself tells Jesus to wait, wait, well I put all authority under your feet, both in heaven and on earth, with the exception of the one who gave that authority, the Father! And the purpose of this is so that the father will become all things to all people!
Not so that the sun will become all things to all people, but the father will be restored to his rightful position as God!
The god of this world who blinds the minds of the unbelievers will be vanquished once and for all!
John 1:1 is not a nightmare at all for antitrinitarians!
John 1:1 does not at all create a nightmare for anti Trinitarians, as you like to call us.
John 1:1 coupled with Philippians 2:5-11 explains exactly how God took the spirit Being known as The Word of God, and placed him into a human Being known as Jesus.
God the Father is the ultimate Savior who saves us through his son Jesus whom he told Mary to name Savior.
This is no different than how God delivered the Sons of Israel through Moses who was called the deliverer. God is the ultimate deliverer who used a man to do the delivering.
This is like if you call UPS to deliver a package for you, and UPS sends a driver to pick up the package, and deliver the package to its destination. The package was delivered by a man in a truck, but UPS is the ultimate deliverer of the package whom you paid to do the job!
A drowning man is spotted by the captain of a ship who sends a sailor to toss the man a life preserver, and then lowers a life raft with a sailor to pull the man onto the raft.
The captain of the ship is the ultimate Savior of the drowning Man who used a sailor to fish the man out of the water and onto the ship.
God the Father is our Savior who sent his son to save us, to fish us out of sin and death!
Jesus is not the source of all life, the Father is the source of all life who put life within Jesus. Jesus was given life within himself by the Father!
This is just as any father, when he begets a child, he is the one who imparts life to the child. Now the child has life within himself and when he grows up, he can impart life to a child.
Jesus is NOT a god created by YeHoVaH God Almighty. Jesus is CALLED a god, just as Moses was CALLED a god, just as Satan was CALLED a god, just as all those at Psalm 82 were CALLED gods.
Jesus explain this at John 17:1-3 when he said his father is the only true God, Jesus is only CALLED a god by God because God gave Jesus authority according to John 17:1-3! According to 1st Corinthians 15:23 through 28! According to Matthew chapter 28!
Jesus has been given authority which he did not have until God the Father gave it to him!
Jesus is the source of our light because God gave Jesus life within himself. God gave Jesus permission to disseminate that life to whom he wills! God trust Jesus to do that because Jesus proved his loyalty on the cross all the way to death! That same cross, that implement of torture which Catholics bow down to in the sanctuary of the Catholic Church!
I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the FATHER, the FATHER, the FATHER, except through me!
The destination is the FATHER! Not the son!
The FATHER gave the Son Life within himself! The son did not have life within himself until the FATHER gave it to him! We know that because the son died!
The problem im having with the trinity is our one God according to the church revealed himself in 3 ways as the father son and holy ghost so you count 3, but the truth is he revealed himself in more ways then just that! He was also the angel of the lord, burning bush, cloud by day fire by night, Malchizidek! Why ate these not counted with the trinity! I am confused ive alwsys thought the trinitywas what it is but it aeems to be mire appropriate ro say God is one whocan appear however he pleases or is there a flaw in what im saying? After all God never said he was a trinity the church tokened that phrase but is it accurate sense God has revealed himself in more ways then just the three?
No. What you are saying is the heresy. Christians deceived for centuries. Now many are opening their eyes to the deception.
This a joke right?
I would say a pedo being a prophet is a bigger joke
it,s a highly highly questionable if make any sense open the mouth pretending complicated uncomplicated matter we have only one almighty creator and his all diversities things existent so mean that genesis 1:1 and John 1:1 confirm there's only one God as father son and
holy spirit, never was any other God except him, we don't have other God only him, and there'll not be another but him, beginning and end . he is the great I'm who I'm YHVH YHWH YESHUAH...YEHOVAH...
Why do you shadow ban people that ask legitimate questions with bible citations?
Why not discuss the points raised?
Echo chambers are super boring and no one learns anything, I'm sure you agree
Lol, I’m not doing anything to your comments. Unless you want me to?
And sorry, I don’t give a gosh darn about any heretical ideas. Go to Mike winger.
@ChristOverAllJeremy Frank Lee?
All good. Mike winger makes up all sorts of crazy stuff.
I would never go close to JW's if I accepted his claims.
Thankfully I got there beforehand.
I understand debating and using scripture but he's another level.
I don't mind Sam, he's a bit more honest. Unfortunately he's like O'Brian in George Orwell's 1984, comitted to the "party" of Nicea.
I hope he opens his mind, he'd make an awesome Paul
Heretic: someone who has an opinion that is opposite to or against the official or popular opinion 👀describes you to the "T"
The Word, The Voice, Angel (Messenger) of the Lord, the man Jacob wrestled with...it was Jesus Christ in his prehuman existence, before He became flesh.
John 1 reads differently based on your definition of God.
If God means the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit and Jesus is the word. It reads, “ in the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with the Father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. Jesus was the father, the son, and the holy spirit “
If God to you means only God the father, it reads “ In the beginning was Jesus. Jesus was with God the father. Jesus was God the father”
So when you mention that Jesus is Jehovah, that is true, but they are not separate beings.
Also when explaining the Trinity you can not jump around. You should be able to show where someone is explaining this doctrine to someone else within the same book. An actual documented conversation where the 3 person God is being explained in the same letter, by the same author. Just show where anyone explains the Trinity to someone else in the Bible. You should not have to jump around as if God does not want you to know who he is and you discovered his hidden identity.
You can deceive your unlettered audiance, but not the world. You are twisting and abusing the minds of your audience. " ThevWord" what this it mean in the Hebrew context, it means "Targam unclus" this word is for memory in Hebrew divar - word it means God through His Word brings anything,everything into being. When God created hhe world what did He do? Genesis 1:3 The Word apoears here in the same context. And God said "word" let there be light and there was light. He simply decree a matter, and in that word contains whatever light is. Hebrew is one of only two intrinsic languages, meaning " in the Word is what it is.
Matter. God uttering a word, and from that word emerges whatever it is. 1) "In the beginning was the "Word" this Wird was not Jesus as Sam try to make you understand, it is God's decree. 2) and the word became flesh, the Church is alluding the flesh reference hete, is Jesus it does not, the flesh refer to creation, and not Jesus perse. In every lie us some truth, so the concept of the word LOGOS (Word) brings some Idolatory. The truth is very simple and lies are very complicated. This verse is from Hebrew text, and no Jew believe or interpret the verse in the way Sam distorted the verse Shame on you Sam, you have a sick twisted mind.
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
No wonder folk are confused with such nonsense as an explanation. All shouting no teaching😂
HERE IS THE PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSAL FAMILY OF WHICH ONLY THE FATHER IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP: "For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name." Ephesians 3:14,15 THOSE GIVEN JESUS CREDIT BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD ARE BLASPHEMERS: "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.” Revelation 4:11
THE CREATION IS A FATHER-AND-SON ENTERPRISE WHERE THE FATHER ALLOWS THE SON TO TAKE CHARGE OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT (TAKING THE DRIVER'S SEAT AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO DRIVE) "Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner" John 5:19 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you." John 16:13-15
THE FACT THAT IS MISSING FROM JESUS BEING IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD - IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEGINNING
THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEGINNING THE FIRST BEING THE "ONLY BEGOTTEN" SON OF GOD AS JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US: "To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa+ write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness, the beginning of the creation by God" Revelation 3:13
AFTER WHICH THE SECOND BEGINNING WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATION OF THE SPIRIT REALM WITH ALL OF THE ANGELIC SONS OF GOD: " He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire” PSALM 104:4; THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MATERIAL CREATION HOWEVER THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRING IT INTO EXISTENCE: “Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? JOB 38:4,7
THE THIRD BEGINNING WOULD BE THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE WITH THE HUMAN-CREATED SONS OF GOD AND THAT IS THE BEGINNING THAT JOHN 1:1 IS REFERRING TO AS JESUS WAS THERE AS GOD'S MASTER WORKER/BUILDER DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IN BRINGING THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO FRUITION: "When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established* the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:28-31 THE TRINITY WAS NEVER TAUGHT BY ANYONE IN THE BIBLE AND FOR THOSE BELIEVING AND TEACHING IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IS SEALING THEIR OWN FATE
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The gospel, the good news is salvation from hell. And here’s how to get it, the Bible makes it as clear as can be. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”, acts 16:31. Words from your mouth don’t even need to be accompanied, just “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” from hell, it’s this easy!!
Torah, Talmud.. that's v1-4 it's a blatant copy of Genesis.. the word was spoken before it was written, telling you that the teachings of the Talmud were spoken.. passed from kin to kin, through word of mouth.... all of what you are doing is commendable.. you absolutely need Jewish teachings to prove your point, but you twist the teachings... why?