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“Your going to be a beast if only you would stop listening to anyone but me” classic Rip 😂
The audible "oh gawd" when the caller says he weighs 215 😂
I’m starting to think Rip just tells everyone to gain wait to contribute to comments from the haters
Possibly, but 215lbs is pretty skinny for a guy who's 6'4". Also, his current numbers are nothing and if he doesn't gain muscle they aren't going to go up very much.
Pretty much. I’m still waiting for the upcoming Kettlebell episode to really stoke the fire.
No it isn't, 215lbs is overweight but reasonable for someone who lifts. 300lbs is clinically obese.@@AllPainNoGains
6'4 215 is perfect
Yeah, go ahead and buy your CPAP now.
Cardiovascular Health has left the room
that depends on the person
From my experience, cardio does shrink the legs. But the strength still remains. It may have been water weight that was reduced, but it shrunk lol. Do not do excessive strength training on the legs when doing cardio, it’ll fuck you up lol.
But even with cardio, you don’t know if you’re prone to diabetes, so eating a ton can raise the risk of that
6'-4" over 300 lbs? What are we trying to build an offensive lineman here? Most NFL defensive Ends are drafted at around 250-270 and they are big strong people. 6'-4" is a height not a frame measurement. Saying someone should be over 300 lbs just because you know their height is a tough sell.
300 is the floor. Realistically he should be aiming for high 300’s low 4s.
@@loganfignewton hes making a oline
its just that 6'4 should way higher/
I'm 5'5", clearly he was talking to me. Get swoll or die trying.
The caller is a novice doing a 5X5 program and Rip tells him to balloon up to 325 so he can squat 700lbs lol. What a bizarre segment.
Why's that
Because humans
To be fair, he does say with a "competitive" lifter.
Fucking hilarious and truthful comment considering the video after watching it. 😂
I’m 5’7”. 34. 230. I can rep 485 on the squat and 500 on the DL and pressing 225. I followed SS for 2 years. It’s not bizarre. It works. I’ll start cutting and lose weight when I’m ready. Its not bizarre.
215? GOMAD
170? GOMAD
355? GOMAD
😂
I preface this by saying I love Starting Strength and have Huge respect for Mark Rippetoe. But he's always saying he doesn't care about competitive lifters and he's here to serve the general public, yet anytime he talks about bodyweight he references competitive lifters.
If someone is just looking to be big and strong, but not at a competition level...why wouldn't a guy who's 6' 4" just go for like 240-270 and be cool with it if his strength is good?
The point he’s making is that competitive lifters are the standard because they’ve maximized their gains and strength ... so if you wanna be “big and strong” you should probably do what they do. The guy is calling interested in getting stronger. So look at the strongest people. What do they have in common? They weigh 100 lbs more than this guy
It follows if he wants more strength he needs to gain weight
How many times does Rip say, "I'm not here to tell powerlifters what to do, I am here because I want to help the powerlifter's grandmother have enough strength to get off of the toilet"?
Mark doesn’t know what he’s talking about outside of novices, if a 6’4” person wanted to be a competitive lifter 240-270 IS where they would be. If they are natural anyway. No reason to get up to 30% bf for no reason, it would bump him up to an unnecessarily high weight class for no reason (for him to be at 300lbs with an FFMI of 25 or lower- the higher end of what’s possible natural, he would have a bodyfat % of around 30%.)
Looking big and strong doesn't mean you have to go bear mode either. Putting on a lot of muscle mass and then cutting weight while eating high protein will make you look big and strong. Muscle loss should be minimal, strength loss will happen but also minimal, you'll look strong and bigger than the average guy, have above average guy strength, and also not look like a friggin balloon. If your goal is to look and be big and strong but don't want to compete, then, well, there you go
@@Steven-bq5fu is this the first Starting Strength video that you've encountered?
4:06 Mark tells him to gain 60lbs in 4-6 months and says that his waist will increase by 2". What? What is this old guy thinking
What's wrong with keeping your waist in check? It's a indicator of health, mortality, looks, and whether you'll need new cloths or not
@@leonardo9259 Yeah... you're not going to keep your waist in check by gaining 60 lbs. If you're somehow lucky enough to gain 10lbs of muscle in 4-6 months, that means you're gaining another fifty pounds of fat. Try gaining that much weight and see how much your waist measurement goes up by. It won't be 2" lol. This old man says absolutely ridiculous things, it's as though he has only a vague recollection of the real world
I agree with some of what you are saying, but I think Mark is assuming this 25 year old is trying to lift heavy at a caloric deficit. He needs to eat more just to progress to average numbers for his height and weight, and then eat even more to progress pass that. No details on diet were mentioned, but I am curious what a 6'4" male would need to sustain progressive overload.
I am 6'4" 43 year old male and last year I too was stuck on my progress at a bodyweight of 205 to 210 lbs. Squat was 310 x 5 x 3, Deadlift 400 x 5, Press 160 x 1 x 5, Bench 200 x 5 on intermediate programming and couldn't get them moving at all. On the forums Rip said I need to get my bodyweight up to at least 235 to 240 lbs. When I bulked the 30 lbs or so over 3 months my lower body lifts went to Squat 355 x 5 x 3, Deadlift 470 x 5. The upper body lifts over about 6 or 8 months moved to Press 185 x 1 x 6, Bench 225 x 5. I'm happy with the result and even though I've added a couple of inches to my waist, my body composition is still pretty good. I might push up the weight to 270 lbs and see if I get get some similar results, hang out there a year total and get all the gains I can and then do a 3 to 4 month cut to trim some extra fat. I've cut before and if done correctly it isn't hard to keep most of the strength gains, about 90 to 95% of them. When cutting is done most of that 5 to 10% you can get back without too much effort. To do this you just need to aim for cutting about 1% bodyweight per week and get the appropriate program from Starting Strength for you level of training advancement to cut on. Make sure you get your protein requirements and then start by removing meals until you are down to about 3 or 4 of them to get the bodyweight heading downwards, then as necessary start removing fat. From 270 lbs at 1% per week that would get me back down to 230 to 240 lbs in 3 to 4 months. I just need to get motivated for a bulk. For me bulking is much more difficult than cutting. It's harder for me to eat a lot more than you want to eat, then eating a bit less than you need, on a consistent basis.
Eat to train, Train to eat. Good luck brother! Also 43 and similar totals. Started the program at 37. Currently OHP 60kg, Bench 235, Squat 377, Deadlift 405 at 5'11.5" and a 215 lbs bodyweight. Stalled, and play way too many hours of court sports to have a hope of gaining weight. Good news is I'm resilient for a 43 year old playing basketball, badminton, soccer and hockey and have been injury free. I am hoping to add some winter weight and try to get my numbers up over the winter months. Then cut weight naturally playing sports during the summer. At 6'4" I think you have your work cut out for you with just the eating alone, but it is possible and you can do it!
I love Rip. And he's not wrong that at 6' 4" it wouldn't kill this guy to gain weight, especially if he wants to get stronger. That said, this guy still has loads of room for strength improvement before he starts packing on serious bodyweight, imo.
Make strength the focus, eat well, and the bodyweight gain will come.
He might be able to add about 300lbs total to the 4 main lifts without gaining weight, but if he stays at his current weight he's going to stall out very soon.
@@AllPainNoGains yeah but i don't think anyone is saying he shouldn't gain weight. but why shouldn't he aim for 230 or 250, rather than 325? why gain more than a hundred pounds of weight in 1 year?
he's basically telling him to get on drugs.
@@rinkuhero you're right that nobody is saying he shouldn't gain any weight, but nobody said he should gain 100 pounds as fast as humanly possible either. What was said was that he should look to gain 50ish pounds over the next several months, with the context that he needs to be eating whole foods while following the novice program and making rapid progress on all his lifts.
I think he's telling the truth though. You don't "focus" on strength. You lift the weights. How much you're able to increase the weights depends on your sleep and eating. People in famines were focusing on food and staying alive every second of every day and it didn't do jack shit if they didn't get the food, and the same will be the case if he "focuses" on strength without simply and mechanically ingesting an appropriate surplus.
He could take 5 years to get to 275 and make proportionate gains or he could just skip the bullshit, eat a lot and ride the linear progress up to the higher point where his frame can carry the muscle. When he's an athletic 275 he can decide then what type of goals he wants to focus on.
In the world of fitness, where goals take flight,
Mark Rippetoe suggests a weight so tight.
Three hundred pounds, a strength decree,
In the realm of powerlifting, where challenges be.
Muscles like mountains, a Herculean might,
Rippetoe's vision, a physical height.
In the gym's domain, where iron sings,
The pursuit of strength, on weighty wings.
Yet wisdom lingers in the fitness lore,
Not just numbers on the lifting floor.
For health's the key, and balance the guide,
In the quest for strength, let wisdom reside.
So, whether 300 or another score,
Mark Rippetoe's wisdom, let's explore.
In the journey of fitness, a tale unfolds,
Of strength and balance, where wellness molds.
Really impressive. 🤜
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Well that's just uncalled for😅
user name checks out
at 25 it really doesnt matter at all.
@@glennmuir5617huh? What does my name have to do with bloodwork markers? 🧐 Maybe he thinks I'm a doctor?
Hip drive my cholesterol through the fucking roof
"do they ration calories in Canada" good lord im having flashbacks to working with southern tradesmen
bro he can't be serious with that lmfao. Not everyone wants to suffer in other life aspects in order to get his squat numbers up. Imagine going up to fucking 300 pounds - the best center in the NFL Jason Kelce doesn't even weigh that much. Why would a random guy do this to himself?
Exactly
And that’s why you little boys will never squat 800lbs
So he could give you a swirly for saying something like that
@Rangnar Lothbrok, so he can get stronger? Like was that even a question LOL.
@@jamesferreira7743 Strength isn't the end all be all. The only people I know who are 300lbs are obese.
Thats the problem, nobody wants to put on weight. I bulked for 2 years straight just to get my big lifts up. Micro-loading my way to new set points. Social Media is really hurting men.
Agree 100%!
Correct, no one wants to be fat
@@Ep1cRainbow weight and fat are 2 different scenarios. But if you're insecure with yourself, you can always loose your testicles and hit the needle. 🤷🏿♂️
I literally laughed out loud when I saw the title of this video.
😂
Starting strength changes my life. But since the beginning I’ve taken some advice/knowledge and some I’ve just shrugged off and went a slightly different way. I’ll always appreciate Rip.
Me to brother!
@@thefox1703 me three! He's become far too dogmatic in his ways.
YNDTP.
@@everydaywarriors you can’t think for yourself
Yep. Same. Gotta think about it in terms of your own goals too. Most people's goals, really, are to look good nekkid.
Absolute cope. Hope this guy doesn’t listen to this nonsense. “You’re not going to get fat” lmao
The taller you are the fatter you need to be. At 6'4" you need to be at least 8' wide to squat properly
This guy coming after me for being 5'9" and 165. Time to get after it.
I did the math and the target weight that Rip suggests works out as around 3.95 lbs per inch of height. So if you want to apply Rip's suggestion to your own height, get your height in inches only and multiply by 3.95. There are 12 inches in a foot so for a six foot guy you would multiply 3.95 x 72. I'm 6'1 and mine is 288lbs. I think I'll pass on bulking up that far, lol.
Why would you pass on that? Just curious as to why that would be, too big? Why too big? Not ripping (pun intended) on your post just genuinely wondering why you would pass on that?
@@martincottreau6977 Yeah, too big I feel. I get the impression Rip was talking about very serious lifters who want to compete in a high weight class and lift as much as they possibly can, so they bulk up a lot for their height. I was looking at the weight of a pro rugby player who is my height and even he is less than 260lbs, and there's no doubt he's big already at that weight. He supposedly squats 300kg and bench's 190kg also. So I can't imagine going 30lbs beyond that. My diet also isn't the cleanest so I think I would put on too much bodyfat. I don't have a nutritionist unlike pro athletes and am not particularly disciplined with what food I eat. I do appreciate Rip's take though and am putting on a few pounds currently so I can progress my lifts better in the gym. What are your thoughts?
@@fuzzylogiceire I think and feel as you do. I don't think I'll loose any sleep gaining weight. My problem is calories. I work in a fitness facility and I do a lot of running around (literally) so when I get all my protein in etc I still risk loosing weight... I think my caloric needs are in the 4800s if I want to gain a pound a week. tough going to be sure and also expensive (plus I'm a family man so my home time is not my own). I am taking a mass gainer supplement but just find that I'm too busy to eat at the scheduled intervals and or to full. Anyway if I can gain 1 lbs. per week I'd be real happy but right now I'm glad if I can just get by without loosing weight.
This concept was taught to me in the navy. I competed in the USS CARL VINSON 1000lb challenge.
I actually ended up squatting 385 and dead lifting 485. Yes my bench was 255 but my shoulder was hurt.
Gotta eat to get bigger. There’s no way around it.
I think if I’m 165 that’ll be good. I wanna call into a show and ask now. Gonna subscribe.
When and where do you see that SS is going live for a Q&A?!
He definitely has to gain weight. But sounds like he could increase his strength greatly already at his given body weight before doing so. Or if he wanted to gain weight, the increase in strength better be leaps and bounds ahead of the weight gain to make sure he's lifting more per pound of bodyweight. His 3x5s were 280, 300, 185, and 110 for squat, deadlift, bench, and press, respectively. Those could easily get to 335, 375, 225, and 150 even still at a weight of 215, so I don't think automatically gaining a lot of weight right away is necessary.
Yeah I'm 6'5.5 and when I was 22 years old and 215lbs I was putting up a 455 s, 515 dl, and 315 bench (long arms). And I was still relatively skinny at the time, though at 5% bf and so I was pretty much all muscle mass. His output can increase a lot without gaining weight, just converting fat into muscle along with technique and conditioning that makes a huge difference. A 6'4 guy at 275 and 10% bf would be huge for normal standards.
Probably being lazy but I'm 5'9" and 45 years old weighing in at 165 lbs with a 410lbs deadlift, 330 squat and 205 bench (1 rep maxes performed this week). Is it worth putting weight on at my age? I'm pretty lean and I've been heavier and stronger in the past but not by much. I've been strength training for 15 years pretty solidly and in the gym for 30 years. Are my best days behind me or can I still get stronger?
i don't think it'd hurt your health to bulk up to 175 or 180 or something. just don't gain 100 lbs like rip is recommending this guy do.
Why? Are there some 500 lb rocks lying around that you need to lift that the extra weight will help with?
@@frankd8774 yep
200lb
Just go on TRT and gain 5lbs a month for a year, then cut back down to 185.
Pure gold
I was listening to some West Side stuff a while back. They wanted 6’4” lifter to be close to 400lb for proper leverages.
Sweet, right on track.
800 lb squat? 325 lbs @ 6'4? holy shit
i started laughing my fucking ass off when Rip said someone who's 6'4 "should be able to squat 800lbs" hahaha
seriously how many people in the world squat 800+
maybe a few hundred?
Rippetoe has lost his mind
@JayOTwo way way less. 800 raw is absolutely elite. This is an outrageous video 😂
6'4" is a thin NFL wide receiver. Calvin Johnson was 6'5" and still weighed 237.
So I read up some stats online for natural body builders and for 6'4 ideal weight would be 240. Now assuming this is at 10% body fat and assuming regular folks are Ok with 20% body fat, then the weight jumps to about 265. No where near 300 without drugs
Most bodybuilders aren't very strong though
Just left this video to go put 2 lbs of meat on the grill, drink another glass of milk, and start the rice cooker for lunch. And breakfast was 2 hrs ago. 🤣 I'm one of those that need to gain as well.
Here's the thing - it is true that it is much easier to get strong if you're also willing to get kinda fat. Not willing to get fat? Well, you can get stronger, really quite strong even, but it is much harder and your ceiling is not the same.
So what if fat people can lift a bit more weight? No one cares. They are still fat.
Nah, it’s the same and easy with proper programming. Rip just wants people to try and run novice linear progression for way too long, if not their entire life, and his solution to needing intermediate programming is to get fat.
Rips basic philosophy: get as big as you possibly can because even if you're fat and on your way to an early grave, you'll have bragging rights on how much weight you can lift
I love this lol. If you’re 6’4 you should be able to squat 800
A grown man weighs 200kg
As far as I can understand, the rule of thumb is your weight in kilograms should equal your height in centimeters. If you live in the US, you should aim for *at least* 5.5 lbs per inch of height. Go for 6 to be on the safe side.
Great advice on how to take 15-25 years of your life 👍
I'm pretty sure Rip said, "a grown man weighs 200 LBS". I believe 200kg may be problematic for most.
This whole video is a fucking meme LMFAO
I took Rips advice in my early 20s, and went from 190 to 245 lbs in less than a year. Got a good bit of strength but looked like shit. Still havent gotten to a weight im happy with 4 years later
Translation: I got fat in my 20s and now cannot lose it with the same mentality, so I blame someone on the internet.
@@wreagfe exactly
@@wreagfe its definitely my fault for listening to a fat guy on the internet
Did you put 350-400 pounds in your squat & deadlift, 200 pounds on your bench press, & 150 pounds on your press?
That’s really the only way to justify gaining 50+ pounds of bodyweight, & it’s completely feasible for a novice lifter who ended the year weighing 245 pounds.
@@dariusgoatland10 all for 3x5:
Squat 135 => 285
Deadlift 185 => 365
Bench 155 => 235
Iam 61 years old and I am 5ft 10 in I weigh 270 that's a little bit to much for me I have weighed as much as 290 at one point when I was in my 30s
Yo dude the writing on that tshirt 😂
Holyfuck, number Rip throw out are so insane. 6ft4, so you should be able to do a 800lb/360kg squat, that is John Hack level numbers 😂😂.
Wow , then I guess I too am undersized at 6ft 5 and around 230lbs. I too was lured by the whole gaining weight like a madman approach which indeed came with its perks. Sure, my lifts all skyrocketed and I felt like a beast, but I also became fatter and sluggish. I know its each to their own, but why would you want to be a 300lb slob when you could still put on size and strength as part of a lean bulk whilst maintaining athleticism. Weighing 300lbs can't be healthy either naturally or with the assistance of drugs - especially for someone who is tall. Unless you want to compete, or plan on setting records which most of us wont, then why take such an extreme approach. I'm not a Rip hater, and am aware of how he has helped many people, but dang, some of his advice has to be taken with a pinch of salt. It's almost becoming cultish.
I agree. My personal opinion is that no man should weigh over 250lbs unless he is over 6'5, plays football, strongman, or something else extreme.
I'm 225 pounds at 6'2", and I'm currently pretty unhappy with my weight as I'm nowhere near strong enough to justify being 225. That being said, the answer seems clear that I shouldn't gain more weight either to make up for it. Goal is to gently cut down to 215, then likely 205 later. I still want to be strong, but I also don't want to be over 15% bodyfat
"Unless you want to compete, or plan on setting records which most of us wont"
why not?
What I don't understand is that RIP says exactly that all the time. Even in this clip he says "Every major weight lifting I've gone to with someone 6'4 and above they have weighed over 300lbs, 3 and a quarter" (I paraphrased a bit). Rip is a strength coach and states it every time, If you want this, do this. So I don't think he's wrong at all the problem is most people don't understand what they really want.
@@staystrongpeople4942 Unless you're on steroids, every person at any height under 6'10" has saggy, bouncy, grabbable belly fat all over the place if he's 200 lb. I have never, ever, in my entire life, met a lean 200 lb person not on steroids. Not once.
i think this would be right if the guy said he wanted to be a competitive powerlifter or strong man, and is willing to use steroids. but if he just wants to live as long as possible, and wants to remain natural, going up to 325, even at 6'4, is likely a bad idea, and he likely won't even get a 700 lb squat from doing that like rip promises (like name one natural guy, at 6'4, who can squat 700 lbs). he'd look like a beast but he'd die in his 60s instead of his 80s. though it depends on what his goals in life are of course. some people would prefer to live 20 years less if it means everyone around them is intimidated by their size and strength.
Yep, completely unnecessary. I'm not a world class lifter but i'm 6'4 with a 350lbs bench, 500 squat and 600 dead and i weigh 220-225. Being 300lbs is not necessary to be stronger than 99% of people lol
I get why some folks who are obviously talented and have genetic potential may sacrifice so much for weight on the bar. But regular folks aren't going to be trophy winners and nobody cares what their squat is.. so why be a fatass??
On one hand Rip says SS is not about powerlifting and then on the other hand he uses competitive lifter standards to recommend bodyweight to SS trainees. Rip is low IQ.
I think the caller should know the starting strength/ mark ripptoe philosophy starting strength is not about longevity it is about getting strong as AF
yeah he said he's already 215 lbs but he can only squat 300 lbs? there's plenty of guys who are 160 lbs who squat 300 easily. so he has a lot of room to grow strength even at his current bodyweight.
Sure mass moves mass, & maybe I missed this guy saying his primary goal is to be a highly competitive powerlifter. Looking at most male & even female powerlifters & they are carrying a huge amount of body fat. Mark Bell is a great example looking at where he was & where he is now. He would gas out & could barely tie his shoes. Him losing body fat has hurt his lifts, but has improved his life. Even Rip has a big gut & is carrying too much body fat for his age. If lifting is your career then go for it, but if you just want to be stronger I don't think sacrificing health & general athletic performance is worth it. Sure this kid can add some weight, but saying he should be #325 seems excessive.
too logical of a response, you're definitely not a Rippetoe disciple :X
Weight 250. But, in addition to starting strength do Burpees everyday. A lot of football players lift and do starting strength, but also best believe that the foundations of foot all players is built on Burpees during football practice. I do believe that a daily high rep burpee protocol is compatible with Starting Strength. Build up your EMOM burpee capacity from 5 Burpees EMOM to 20, adding 1 rep every week, while only performing Burpees for 5 minutes. Then, add after you get to 20 burpees a minute, progress on your Minutes adding 1 minute a week until you get to 30 minutes. Eventually you will be able to perform 600 burpees in 30 minutes at 20 burpees/min. Daily.
Do this while also doing Starting Strength and maintain a weight of 250 and you will be a beast.
How does this translate in the other direction. I'm a 5'4" male
gotta be at least 200lbs
675 deadlift maybe he can do it with years of dedicated training but by the end of the year if he's doing 300 now is not realistic
That mug! 😮
the way he says oh god when rip learns he only weighs 215
I’m 6’4” and 165. Help me!
I assume your gut, most organs (including the reproductive ones), head, and even hands and feet, should be similar in weight regardless of your hight. So I don't think you can add pounds that easily
You see that in BB's,they look like eating is a chore but keep eating.
That is a proper top Rusty. Would Rip put Heat in his top 10 crime drama movie list?
Brock Lesnar was huge at 6ft 4, 265 when fighting. it's hard to fathom another 60lbs on someone like that
he is 6ft 2 , takes ped to be that shredded , and doesn't have the leg to squat heavy
@@karrimzz ok sure, he takes anabolics, and sure doesn't have that good legs, but he's still enormous at 265, just saying 325 at around that height is pretty darn heavy
I think he would cut from like 290 for a fight but I get your point. Also Brock has an enormous frame/bone structure so even without lifting would be much heavier than most people that height.
Is 150 good for someone that’s 5 feet 7? I’m at 133 right now and am looking forward to get to 150. I don’t have a problem working out. My problem is eating enough.
You could be 200# at 5' 7" if most of that weight is good muscle you're still gonna look and feel good. But yeah, 150 is a fine start. I used to be a skinny hard gainer, so I know how it can be.
Find what your maintenance is and eat a surplus of 200 to 500 calories at most, if it's more than 500 then most of it will be excess fat
Joe Rogan is about 195 for reference. Forget your weight. Are you hitting your strength goals? If not, eat lots of good food and lift. If so, then sure it's fine. No one is saying gorge yourself constantly, but even an extra small meal or a couple handfuls of nuts or peanut butter will go a long way.
If you don't like eating a lot, try drinking more calories. A couple scoop whey isolate protein shake drinks ss easy as water. Easy on your stomach too.
Nah 270
"the muscle belly"
THICC boi!!!! lmao.
I’m 55 6ft 1 inch, 168 bw, and if I gained too much weight, my BP would skyrocket.
Did all that bulking up back in the 80s and hit a body weight in the 225 pound range. It was cool seeing all my lifts go up, but I was a walking heart attack.
Just love ❤️ my heart too much at my age
Then you eat like shit.
BP = bench press or blood pressure? lol
100%. Rip is telling people to compromise their long-term health by gaining large amounts of weight. And for what? So they can look like sh*t while dead-lifting a bit more? It's asinine! How he has any followers at all is a continuing mystery.
@@aldrogo7510 💀💀
@@aldrogo7510 That was a good 👍
Hey, I'm roughly the same height weight and strength as the caller.
i don't understand how someone can be that tall and big but be so weak. i understand he just started training, but like, even at 165 lbs i was stronger. so he has a lot of room to grow even without gaining weight. in his position i'd do a very slow bulk of 20-30 lbs, over 2-3 years, rather than a 100 lb bulk in 10 months like rip is suggesting.
@@rinkuhero tall people are usually at a mechanical disadvantage for the main lifts because of their limb lengths. In physics, Work = Force x Distance. They can make up for it by gaining weight
Love this Bre photo
That mug looks huge.
Read the title, not gonna let him add any qualifiers, boutta be 5'2 300lbs
"How do I do that"? "Eat." 🤣
Having 50 lbs of excess abdominal fat will cause metabolic syndrome, whether you’re 5’4” or 6’4”
lol eating is the easy part. Just think of all the good foods you love
Maby if you are 6ft 4 in that might be ok but if you are 5ft10 in that might not be ok
I dont think the caller said he wanted to be a competitive lifter, so I'm not sure adding 100lbs of bodyweight is called for. However he could definitely add 50 to 60 lbs, this year and be pulling 550, squat 455, bench 315 and press over 200. Then he can decide how deep he wants to take this.
Man I’m 5’9” can do 3x10 pull-ups (so I’m not super fat 😂😂) and weigh more than this guy whose almost a head taller, rip is right! His numbers are very much beginner etc…
@Trogdor The Burninator IKR, Mass moves Mass. Although fucken hell watch it there boss, save some plates for us boys too!
Good advice. He is not saying that the caller should weigh 300 pounds, he is saying that competitive powerlifters at his height tend to weigh 300. This is true. If the caller want to lift heavy weights he has to steadily increase his bodyweight while training hard. How heavy and strong he wants to be is his choice.
the stronger you are, the bigger you look
It’s not true, most competitive powerlifters at his height are either in the 242 or 275 class. Because it’s a weight class sport and extra body fat doesn’t help. Rip is just talking out his ass as usual.
got some data?@@Jmack7861
This is true, but they’re also all on gear. If you try to get to 300 lbs at 6’4” naturally, you’re just gonna be obese.
It's true. I put on 30 pounds in a couple months, but now I have diabetes.
Cut the carbs and focus on protein and fat, and you'll find your diabetes will disappear in about six weeks.
Well, how about it! I got fatty liver. Nice to meet you here.
Did you gain in clean foods or just anything you could get your hands on? Lol
@@45122 I think it was the banana/peanut butter protein shakes that did me in. I was also eating oatmeal for breakfast.
@@glumberty1 Yup, that could be the case. Sorry to hear it.
Why the hell is he scared to gain weight at 6 '4 and 215 pounds?! To put this into perspective I'm a 5'8 woman weighing in at 179 pounds and all of my lifts are heavier than his at 3x5. He HAS to put more weight on his frame and get those numbers up.
No he doesn’t lol he has to gain more muscle, he doesn’t need to get up to 30% bf to weigh 300lbs lmao
@@Jmack7861 gotta read for comprehension. Who said anything about what type of weight he needs to gain? And you can't gain more muscle without gaining some fat. the bottom line is mass moves mass and he needs more mass on his frame. We can go on and on being pedantic but I'd rather not waste time.
@@BigBusiness02 considering for someone his height to weigh 300lbs, with an FFMI of 25 or lower he would have to be a minimum of 30% bodyfat. So rip either wants him on copious amounts of drugs, or 30% bodyfat. And yes, you are correct. But you don’t have to gain an unnecessary amount of fat, and are allowed to cut to a lower bodyfat % as well.
The problem is rip wants people to run SS unnecessarily long and his only solution is to gain weight, not get decent programming. With decent programming you can maintain strength and even get stronger on a cut. You certainly don’t need to be in a huge surplus to get stronger with good programming. And suggesting to get to that bodyweight for him is just asinine.
@@Jmack7861 I (emphasis on I) didn't say anything about 300 pounds. Did rip suggest this guy should weigh 300 pounds or did he say that competitors his height usually weigh 300 pounds? Been over a day since I watched this so I honestly couldn't remember if I tried lol. But we do have to admit that a 215 pound 6'4 male is quite under muscled. Nobody's saying he has to be a fat slob but he doesn't have to stay frail either. It doesn't have to be one complete end of the spectrum or the other
@@BigBusiness02 rip heavily insinuated for him to get to 300lbs, he didn’t say specifically “you should get to 300 lbs”, but also wasn’t simply saying what competitive lifters heights and weights are (which is also incorrect at the same time)
People have a strange perception of the difference between being strong and looking strong. If you want to look like a body builder, dont bother citing the weights of your lifts, its totally irrelevent. If your going to tell me your numbers, im going to guess you want to actually be strong.
275 at 6'4 should make you shredded. If you're 215 at 6'4 and not diced to the toenails you're going to need to gain weight or your going to look like a bean pole. There's no amount of training you will do at 6'4 215lbs that will make you bigger without significantly increasing your calorie intake .
Looking at the average height/weights of top lifters you could pretty easily conclude the average heights are approximately 100kg @ 5'7, 110kg @ 5'10, 125 @ 6', 140kg+ @ 6'+
If your just out for the looks, bulk and cut until your happy and dont chase numbers. If thats too much, just do nothing different and stop wasting time wondering about how you can be the first human to circumvent how hypertrophy and strength training work.
Most people want to break through their ceiling. Mark wants them to break through their floor.
Didnt realize mark rippetoe was such a ment producer 😂
I'm 6'2 245 lbs
Rippetoe: My haters think i want everyone to be fat powerlifters but thats a lie! I only care about the general public and health!
Also rippetoe: Bulk up to 320 pounds because thats how big powerlifters have to be at your height!
I loved the book, the methodo and just barbell training in general. Loved the texas method as well. I just cannot support his nutritional advice, i followed it and all it did was make me fat and out of shape.
Strength shouldn't be the only parameter in focus imo. Gaining size around your belly ain't sustainable in the long run. U will develop metabolic syndrom, just like Rip and the other one on this podcast. Is it worth it sacrificing your health for 150 pounds in the squat? Temporarily maybe.
It’s called STARTING S T R E N G T H. Guess what they primarily are focused on how strength. 😂
GOMAD
These comments sections are some of the best on the internet. A bunch of people afraid to loose their abs. Its not as bad as you think its going to be.
How to convert pound to kilogram?
Google it brother 😂
Like 148-152 kilos or something similar to that
even with peds it's not possible what rip just stated
He's not wrong. If you actually do some work you won't just become a blubbery heap. I'm 6'1" 295 and most people guess I weigh 235 when they look at me.
ADDENDUM: In response to the guy below who seems to believe you will "lose your athleticism" if you put on some weight: That's simply not true if you do it correctly. I move just as well on the jiu jitsu mats at 295 as I did ten years ago when I weighed in the 240's. Ever heard of Larry Allen? He wasn't a genetic freak, he just worked and kept himself strong as hades and could outrun half the RB's in the NFL despite being 330lb.
And look at rikishi for craps sake. They move like cats at 500+ lbs. Why? Because while becoming morbidly obese (and yes, they do have weight related bone and joint problems as they age, but that's not what I'm discussing, the subject is movement and "athleticism") they also train religiously; and they move like lightning despite their immense mass. Getting bigger does not mean automatically mean getting slower or less agile. Keep your strength in proportion to your size and you'll move around just fine.
LOVE THE SHIRT! (and the advice ain't half bad either!)
I want a tiddie mug
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I had a hard time paying attention with the title mug. Wtf 🤣
I'm 5'3 344 pounds. I can squat 45 pounds.
Everyone starts somewhere lol
Get up to 475
Well maybe if you hit 400 you would squat more
@@GreyRock100 If they can get up to 475, they should be able to at least double their squat to 90 pounds. It's pretty good for adding another 50% to their bodyweight.
I'm 3'2 682 lbs and squat 25 lbs.
Why is everyone so much worse at eating than me?
To these "startig strenght" guys the notion of abs is an urban legend right??
215 and over 6'4"? I work with a guy that is 6'5" and weighs 260 and he looks "normal". He just looks like a super-sized regular person. He completely fills a doorway.
Damn wish I was 6'4. Then I could eat anything. If I am 5'11 and 300 lbs then I just look stupid
Some more great advice on body weight from Rip... Said no one ever.
People in general are always obsessing about weight and BMI as though its some flawless proxy for health . Quit worrying about weight. Quit trying to look like other people in the various simulacra presented to us by modern culture. It's not real. Get strong, build your base, eat a lot of good food, and then go on a cut if you wanna go lower body fat. Losing fat is way easier than building muscle.
Dude that’s a ridiculously ignorant comment
It’s the equivalent of saying not everyone who gets shot in the head with a gun dies or even gets seriously injured. Because they don’t.
We live in the 21st century. Modern medicine and science clearly shows that the more you weigh the harder is is on your cardiovascular system, organs, veins, everything. That is weight in fat or weight in muscle. It doesn’t matter. As the scale goes up biomarkers of health decline.
There’s a reason calorie restriction increases life span. Becoming a bloatlord does the opposite
@bobdole7292 Yeah cuz the only option is being fat, there's no in between lol. Very silly.
@@alexcocco4413 if you read what I wrote you’d see that if you’re 300 lbs of muscle or 300 lbs of fat it is irrelevant to your cardiovascular system and physiology. It’s 300 lbs.
You are very ignorant. “Lol”
Also your use of simulacra was completely incorrect.
I think you try hard to be a smart guy but when I presented an argument you had nothing to say other than some poorly written nonsense that didn’t even address the issues. You have a low IQ.
215 at 6'4 is string bean
This is absolute insanity.
If youre 6’4 it doesnt matter too much because your height is always going to give you a halo effect anyway.
However for guys 5’10 range or shorter, NEVER go over 200 pounds unless you want to look stumpy af
Why even watch Rip if you're lifting to look pretty?
@@dannydreadnought-xk4qx
I dont watch him much anymore, i care about being strong AND not being a fat slob. Clearly rip doesnt mind that last part though
No one should weigh 300lbs no matter what this guy says , and no matter how strong you want to get , your heart isn’t meant for that kind of load
The problem was he's talking to a 60 y.o. female who's 5'2!😂😅
I do not understand a "man" who wishes to weigh under 200lbs at ANY height. Women have NEVER been more attracted to me since ive gone over 200, but with a squat and deadlift over 300 lbs. Once you get there you'll understand why, and you'll never look back.
Sometimes I forget that I've been able to bench press over 300 lbs when I was 16 years old and weighed under 180 lbs..not everyone is born equal..